Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

This fight is for everything.

Optimism opens the door to great things.

Infrastructure week. at last.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

I really should read my own blog.

I did not have telepathic declassification on my 2022 bingo card.

No offense, but this thread hasn’t been about you for quite a while.

Being the leader of the world means to be the leader of peace.

Everybody saw this coming.

Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?

Consistently wrong since 2002

Good lord, these people are nuts.

A last alliance of elves and men. also pet photos.

All your base are belong to Tunch.

Peak wingnut was a lie.

Our job is not to persuade republicans but to defeat them.

Teach a man to fish, and he’ll sit in a boat all day drinking beer.

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

“But what about the lurkers?”

Russian mouthpiece, go fuck yourself.

We still have time to mess this up!

The willow is too close to the house.

“More of this”, i said to the dog.

Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.

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  2. 2.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    I realize this guy is just trying to find any analogy that will keep this bill from getting through, but I also can’t help but think back to that article that Doug linked to a while back (that lots of people didn’t like), where the guy said owning a gun made you think about the world differently.

  4. 4.

    Punchy

    slightly broader background check rules for gun buying

    Isn’t there a provision that says if you’re selling to a friend (undefined, I think), no checks are needed? Dont know if this is a loosening of regs or maintains the status quo, but that seems to be a loophole so large that the whole thing becomes farcical.

    I suspect gun sellers will suddenly have many, many friends.

  5. 5.

    JPL

    Gun ad’s use to be about hunting, now they are about protecting you from the government. wtf. I blame Obama.

  6. 6.

    Schlemizel

    When the crazy is turned up to 11 already where is there to go?

    If they were not making such a mess of the world we all have to live in I’d sort of feel sorry for the poor dumb bastards

  7. 7.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    @Punchy: Yes, but at the same time, it will look awfully funny if a gun store owner suddenly buys 30 of his own guns, a few of which turn up in a crime.

    The family/friend loophole is no change to current policy.

  8. 8.

    JPL

    Rick Warren’s son bought the gun he used to commit suicide over the internet without a background check. The law does seem to take care of that. Toomey wanted to add, that 5 sales a month over the internet didn’t require background checks. Schumer said no.

  9. 9.

    The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik

    Unfortunately a lot of people I know are buying into this bullshit hook, line, and sinker. I feel like the only one not wholly convinced that any minor expansion of gun control is just asking for super-massive fascism. And anything I say and do basically leaves me feeling like I should be kicked out of the whole goddamn country because GUNS ARE FREEDOMS, BTICHES, YOU SUPER MEGA ULTRA FUCKING GUNGRABBING TRAITORRRRRR!!!!!

  10. 10.

    SatanicPanic

    Let’s talk about some of the voter registration laws the Republicans are pushing. You have to give the the government your address, TAKE A PHOTO and tell them your party ID. Have they considered that with all that information, it would be really easy for the government to round up every conservative voter and kill them?

  11. 11.

    J.W. Hamner

    Well, back to the drawing board guys… those clever conservatives have seen through our fiendish plans AGAIN. One day we will realize our dream of an America filled only with illegal immigrant black gay women who hate guns!

  12. 12.

    Villago Delenda Est

    These people are idiots.

    They know a bit about tactics, but they know nothing of logistics.

  14. 14.

    Mandalay

    So the Republican position is now that states’ rights are sacred….until it comes to guns:

    By a bipartisan vote of 272-154, the House passed a measure that will enable non-resident gun owners to carry a concealed firearm across state borders.

    Forty-three Democrats joined 229 Republicans in supporting the measure, which had 245 co-sponsors. Just seven Republicans joined 147 Democrats in voting against the bill.

    H.R. 822, the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2011, allows gun owners with valid state-issued concealed firearm permits to carry a concealed firearm in other states that also allow concealed carry.

    “The Second Amendment is a fundamental right to bear arms that should not be constrained by state boundary lines,” said the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas. “This legislation enhances public safety and protects the right to bear arms under the Second Amendment.”

  17. 17.

    The Moar You Know

    @Mandalay: Well, the immediate cure for this is that it will die in the Senate.

    A more long term cure is the North Carolina route, where the state just says “fuck the federal law, you come into our state with a concealed weapon and you’re in jail”. I mean, hell, if the Confederacy is going to go there let’s not make it a one-sided thing.

  18. 18.

    Mojotron

    Nobody seemed to pick up on the eerily similar stories from opposite coasts two weeks ago; they occurred days apart.

    Emmy-Winning Documentary Filmmaker, Humanitarian Killed By Neighbor During Tree-Trimming Dispute
    Guy was trimming trees on his property while packing a .44 and got into an argument with his neighbor who he claims had a gun (he did not, no gun found)and shot him twice, killing him.

    Three killed after dispute between neighbors

    Authorities said Anthony Charles Hardy, 50, shot and killed neighbors Daniel Thomas Kirchner, 42, and Gary Wade Stocks, 64, in the backyard of Kirchner’s house….
    Neighbors said Hardy was angry about pine trees that were cut down behind his house and that the victims were on the homeowners association board that approved the removal of the trees.
    The Kirchners’ young daughters witnessed the shooting, family members said.
    Neighbors said the Hardy was angry at Kirchner and Stocks because they were on the homeowners association board that had approved removing pine trees on a berm behind the three homes.
    The pine trees were in the way of power lines and were removed last week, said resident Scott Epley, who has also served as a general contractor for the homeowners association.

    and about that second guy….
    Harrisburg shooter denied concealed carry permit after 2004 assault

    The man who deputies say gunned down two of his neighbors had a violent past, but he was approved for a concealed carry permit and a handgun purchase permit in 2005 before being denied a new concealed carry permit in 2010.
    The sheriff’s office issued a concealed carry permit to Hardy in 2005, but Hardy received a prayer for judgment (essentially a no contest plea where the charge eventually gets wiped) for misdemeanor assault against another neighbor earlier that year, which, per North Carolina law, should have prevented him from receiving the permit.

    Hunt said it isn’t clear who approved the concealed carry permit in 2005, but Hardy’s renewal request in 2010 was denied because of the charge.

    The assault charge in superior court stemmed from an assault and battery charge in district court. The incident occurred on Oct. 14, 2004, when Michael Welton, who lived at 7791 Coachman Court at the time, told authorities that Hardy came to his door, asked him about a sign in Hardy’s front yard, cursed at him and started punching and kicking him in the face.

    Even though the prayer for judgment Hardy received in the case should have prevented him from getting a concealed carry permit – and it eventually did – it did not disqualify him from receiving a handgun purchase permit, which is required for every handgun purchase.

    Hardy received one such permit at the same time as his concealed carry permit, so Hunt said he legally possessed at least one handgun.

    Additionally, Hunt said, Hardy tried to get a non-residential concealed carry permit from Florida, which has a reciprocal agreement with North Carolina wherein North Carolina automatically recognizes certain other state’s permits.

    Hardy was unable to get the Florida permit, Hunt said.

    Your well-regulated militia folks, speaking for the trees.

  19. 19.

    Mandalay

    @The Moar You Know:

    A more long term cure is the North Carolina route, where the state just says “fuck the federal law, you come into our state with a concealed weapon and you’re in jail”

    You are probably correct that the bill will die in the Senate, but in the unlikely event that it becomes law I doubt that the argument “fuck the federal law” would be well received in the courts.

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    JoyfulA

    @Mojotron: Yikes! I’ve had disagreements with neighbors on both sides about my trees. I bought this particular house because of all the big trees on the lot.

    One neighbor, the week we moved in, told me to cut down the tall evergreens on his side of the lot because they were shading his pool, which was built decades after the trees were planted. And he does get blind drunk at times. I wonder if the gun permit data are online.

  21. 21.

    The Moar You Know

    I doubt that the argument “fuck the federal law” would be well received in the courts.

    @Mandalay: I would hope it wouldn’t be, but I have no confidence that would be the case.

  22. 22.

    tjmn

    My Dad is thoroughly convinced that the police will show up and try to take is guns. And the military is questioning President Obama’s commander-in-chief skills. And Fox news is the best source of news.

  24. 24.

    Bobby Thomson

    Man, these people are idiots. Rwanda actually provides solid evidence for one of their pet arguments – that people lacking guns will use other weapons to kill people. Thousands of people were murdered and maimed (especially maimed) by people using nothing but machetes.

    But the argument they are actually making is just plain stupid. It’s like arguing that people need the census in order to figure out where white people live (which is probably something some of the crazier ones believe already). Telling the difference between Hutu and Tutsi was not some hard distinction that people needed a registration for. People were killing their neighbors.

  25. 25.

    Mnemosyne

    My gun-loving mom (who was horrified by Newtown) said something interesting in passing last weekend: she thinks that if people want to kill themselves, no one has any business intervening, so it’s morally wrong to try and keep guns out of the hands of suicidal or mentally ill people to try and prevent them from killing themselves.

    That was … weird. I’m still trying to wrap my head around it.

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