Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

If you are in line to indict donald trump, stay in line.

Ah, the different things are different argument.

When someone says they “love freedom”, rest assured they don’t mean yours.

Balloon Juice has never been a refuge for the linguistically delicate.

How can republicans represent us when they don’t trust women?

Let’s not be the monsters we hate.

The willow is too close to the house.

I’m sure you banged some questionable people yourself.

Impressively dumb. Congratulations.

I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

Meanwhile over at truth Social, the former president is busy confessing to crimes.

“The defense has a certain level of trust in defendant that the government does not.”

“Cheese and Kraken paired together for the appetizer trial.”

I know this must be bad for Joe Biden, I just don’t know how.

Today’s GOP: why go just far enough when too far is right there?

Come on, man.

They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

… pundit janitors mopping up after the GOP

This blog will pay for itself.

Trump’s legal defense is going to be a dumpster fire inside a clown car on a derailing train.

We’re not going back!

Jack be nimble, jack be quick, hurry up and indict this prick.

Shallow, uninformed, and lacking identity

“That’s what the insurrection act is for!”

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  2. 2.

    Hillary Rettig

    >You are pathetic nobodies and your opinions will never matter until you break out of this partisan spell you voluntarily place yourselves under.

    Don’t any of these guys own a mirror?

  6. 6.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    a lot of sound and fury but not much signified in that tale told comment made by a Pauliot

  7. 7.

    OmerosPeanut

    I saw words in all capital letters and ran. There is no information gain to be had from screeds that use capitals like that.

  8. 8.

    c u n d gulag

    2 much knot bad gramer ‘n spelin’ ‘n puncteeashun 2 b reel wingcojone.

    butt plenny o’ capitlez!

    prolly jess somebotty off there medz. AGIN!!!

  10. 10.

    Omnes Omnibus

    The interesting capitalization jumped out at me to the extent that I even commented on it. Also, the length of the screed indicates real Paulite to me; one would have to be a truly dedicated troll to go that far.

  12. 12.

    MomSense

    @Zam:
    Ok, in an attempt to understand whatever the hell that was–just tried to break down the first paragraph/sentence.

    He starts with the strawman argument that liberals want an unlimited federal government. Obviously we want unlimited government because we keep trying to defend speech, privacy rights, equal protection under the law, and the right of women to have autonomy over their private, medical decisions. The proof of our desire for unlimited federal government is apparently a desire to take away the freedom of all white men.

    This, he finds amusing–because he is insane!!

    Tough to try and make sense of the insane!

  13. 13.

    dmbeaster

    I vote that its real.

    How many people put the energy into a fake troll at comment 138 and 36 hours after the post went up? By then, the hornets are all asleep and there is little prospect of having fun watching the swarm buzz.

  14. 14.

    Amir Khalid

    Not to Gryffindor. To Slytherin.

    Since open thread has been declared, I want to warn everybody to avoid seeing The Host. It’s got Saoirse Ronan, whose first name I somehow managed to spell correctly; whom I find impossible to look away from; and who very, very nearly manages the impossible-to-perform title role: two squabbling teenage girls trapped in one body. Alas, neither she nor Lotus Evoras wrapped in silver vinyl can make up for the movie being based on a Stephenie Meyer novel. (Which of course gives away what the girls are squabbling about.)

  20. 20.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Amir Khalid:

    I want to warn everybody to avoid seeing The Host.

    The ads in the US are making the most of the Meyers connection; I knew immediately to write it off. I tried to watch the first Twilight movie just to see what the fuss was about and found that I could not watch more than 20 minutes of it. Simply godawful.

  23. 23.

    Suffern ACE

    @Amir Khalid: if you are going to watch a movie called the Host, I’d pick the 2006 Korean film about a vicious salamander/lizard/carp that attacks Seoul.

  24. 24.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I don’t think that’s DougJ. That smells like some deep conviction to me, the relentless incoherence that someone thinks is deep, well-though philosophy.

    In other news, I see Marco Rubio is still trying to whip up outrage, or at least a good national harrumph, about Jay Z. Am I the only one who sees him talking to tiny choirs when from all accounts his ambition is to be a national player?

  26. 26.

    Citizen_X

    Either way, five points to Gryffindor for the use of capitalization.

    I don’t know. Sounds like a Lannister to me.

  28. 28.

    BGinCHI

    I like how he calls us names and then tries to teach us about freedom by paraphrasing a bunch of Enlightenment-era philosophers. As if no one had done any thinking since 1770.

    If I’m going to get insulted I can get a lot more value for my money by just hanging around here with the regular people.

    Right, assholes?

  29. 29.

    Dolly Llama

    There’s a performance-art spoof troll at TPM named The Ghost of Eustace Tilley that does the weird capitalization thing, but s/he’s usually a lot funnier and more obvious than our D-Mac, so I don’t think it’s the same person. He’s someone who TGOET is consciously mocking with his/her schtick.

  30. 30.

    bemused

    Marco Rubio on seven sunday shows…seven. So msm is doing it’s damnedest to promote Rubio or am I missing something?

  31. 31.

    MomSense

    @Redshirt:

    Damn–I had never heard of that particular conspiracy theory until one of them showed up at my house!! I wish I were joking.

  32. 32.

    JPL

    How many assault rifles does this dude have? Hopefully they will prevent the mentally ill from passing a background check.
    also, too. Is this Sarah’s idea of a true patriot?

  33. 33.

    Redshirt

    @MomSense: It’s amazing how these right wing conspiracies burn through their collective minds.

    I’ve read letters to the editors referencing the pernicious AGENDA 21! It’s crazy, and kind of scary – how easily influenced and directed they are. All for the crazy/angry.

  35. 35.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    @BGinCHI:

    I like how he calls us names and then tries to teach us about freedom by paraphrasing a bunch of Enlightenment-era philosophers. As if no one had done any thinking since 1770.

    Oooooooo, a classical liberal. How special!

  36. 36.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @bemused: I think he got a little too cute trying to play both sides of the immigration debate and saw the issue slipping away from him.

    Says a lot that this Sunday media assault is called a “Full Ginsberg”, after the opportunistic family friend who set himself up as Monica Lewinsky’s first attorney.

  37. 37.

    lamh35

    ok, again, someone explain to me how it helps Rubio to get in a celebrity beef with JayZ and Beyonce. cause other than the old Cubans in Florida & a bunch of ole white people in the GOP, who really cares about this?

    also what percentage of Hispanic electorate are of Cuban descent? is “racist Che Guevera”. thing gonna help him with national Hispanic electorate?

    also. when JayZ comes back at Rubio, will Rubio once again go at JayZ? Rubio is the one who comes out looking stupid in that scenario

    Rubio: ‘Jay-Z Needs To Get Informed’ On Che Guevara

  38. 38.

    Amir Khalid

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    I saw it only because I’d never read or seen the Toilet saga, and I wanted to see if Meyers was as bad as her literary rep. (On this evidence, she’s actually worse.) And if you want to wrap Lotus sports cars in silver vinyl, you should go with the much better looking Exige S.

  40. 40.

    celticdragonchick

    @Citizen_X:

    I don’t know. Sounds like a Lannister to me.

    We WILL REPAY our debts and you WILL HEAR us roar! The SO-CALLED Young Wolf OF THE NORTH will be BROUGHT TO justice and the Seven Gods WILL HAVE no MERCY on his soul when HIS head joins THE HEAD of his TRAITOROUS FATHER on a PIKE! PIKE! PIKE!

  42. 42.

    MomSense

    @lamh35:

    Like Jay Z “needs to” do anything! I say keep talking, Marco because I’m pretty sure he will end up being the subject of mass ridicule–again.

  43. 43.

    J.D. Rhoades

    ok, again, someone explain to me how it helps Rubio to get in a celebrity beef with JayZ and Beyonce. cause other than the old Cubans in Florida & a bunch of ole white people in the GOP, who really cares about this?

    Because that’s his base?

  44. 44.

    muddy

    @Citizen_X:

    I don’t know. Sounds like a Lannister to me.

    Indeed, one can easily picture Joffrey pecking this out on his gear-driven laptop.

  45. 45.

    arguingwithsignposts

    What is up with the random capitalization, anyway. IT’S A PAIN IN THE ASS! to type, and ever more of a PAIN in the ASS to read. You don’t score points by driving readers away with your POOR TYPING SKILLS!

    Also, I’m thinking of retiring my nym. I’ve been using this nym for probably a decade, and I’m looking for something new. Decisions, decisions.

  46. 46.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Amir Khalid:

    And if you want to wrap Lotus sports cars in silver vinyl, you should go with the much better looking Exige S.

    I prefer the Elise.

    @lamh35:

    ok, again, someone explain to me how it helps Rubio to get in a celebrity beef with JayZ and Beyonce. cause other than the old Cubans in Florida & a bunch of ole white people in the GOP, who really cares about this?

    It doesn’t – except with the wingnut base.

  48. 48.

    WereBear

    I’ll take “Real Wingnut” for a thousand, Alex.

    I’m getting ready to start podcasting this week, and I’ve been listening to a bunch of them, since it’s going to be just ME; it’s not an interview show.

    (BTW, looooooooved Film Sack, I downloaded every single one of them.)

    So any thoughts folks might have, what they like to listen to and why, that kind of thing…

    Most appreciated!

  56. 56.

    MomSense

    @Redshirt: @J.D. Rhoades:

    It is actually a good thing I had never heard of it because I had an OFA house party and an Agenda 21er showed up. He brought it up as though he thought it was a good program (to try and flush us out) and I said that I had never heard of it. Then when the subject turned to gun violence prevention–he became angry.

    Anyway, I looked him up later and a town in Maine had to get a restraining order against him. I feel like I dodged a bullet on that situation.

    Glenn Beck is like the pied piper of crazy. He blows his flute and the insane show up to march in his parade.

  57. 57.

    celticdragonchick

    @muddy:

    Indeed, one can easily picture Joffrey pecking this out on his gear-driven laptop.

    Yep. That is exactly what I was going for in my comment… ;)

  58. 58.

    different-church-lady

    …is either an elaborate troll or the work of a real wingnut…

    Poe’s law now, Poe’s law forever…

  60. 60.

    RaflW

    I’m deep in red territory today, visiting my ailing dad. The Houston paper (which locals of course think is liberal…ha!) picked up this McClatchy story about how the Southern rejection of Medicade expansion will hurt a ton of people and is purely ideologically driven.

    Next page is a stort about how Latino views on health care differ from the GOP’s.

    I’m sure these will be dimissed by the caps-lock brigade as lefty blather. Till the GOP looses several more elections, at least.

  62. 62.

    lamh35

    @J.D. Rhoades: yeah I get that in Florida, but even nationally, how many ole white people nationally even know or care ’bout jay z? I just don’t know why his people aren’t telling him to take the high ground & don’t get into the weeds with Jay-freakin-Z. dudes a Senator not some radio DJ. it’s just like GWB when he said he was real upset about what Kanye said after Katina. really GWB, u were the freakin POTUS, and Kanye “ima let u finish” West really hurt your feelings…REALLY!

  63. 63.

    Dolly Llama

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    Also, I’m thinking of retiring my nym. I’ve been using this nym for probably a decade, and I’m looking for something new. Decisions, decisions.

    Changed mine just yesterday. Was tired of Evolving Deep Southerner. It was either this one or Don Peyote. You can have that one if you want it.

    ETA for blockquote fail.

  65. 65.

    Cacti

    @RaflW:

    Next page is a stort about how Latino views on health care differ from the GOP’s.

    Buh, buh, but Latinos are natural conservatives! Every Republican tells me so.

  67. 67.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    In other news, I see Marco Rubio is still trying to whip up outrage, or at least a good national harrumph, about Jay Z. Am I the only one who sees him talking to tiny choirs when from all accounts his ambition is to be a national player?

    Rubio is doing exactly what a GOP presidential hopeful should be doing; establishing his cred with the 27%.

  68. 68.

    celticdragonchick

    @RaflW:

    The Houston paper (which locals of course think is liberal…ha!) Picked up this McClatchy story about hiw the Southern rejection of Medicade expansion will hurt a ton of people and is purely ideologically driven.

    The GOP rejection of all media that is not in the FOX/Limbaugh/Drudge axis has become an actual liability to our polity. It is interesting, in a train wreck kind of way, to watch how people, policies and institutions are immediately denounced as ‘socialist’ irrespective of any actual merit…and often enough, irrespective of whether the FLD axis had agreed with those things in the past.

  70. 70.

    Violet

    @lamh35: Turned on the TV, which was on NBC. Saw Rubio on Meet the Republicans with Dancin’ Davie. Switched over to CBS to see when the Masters was starting. Saw Rubio on Face the Republicans with Beltway Bob. He’s going full metal teabagger with this Cuba/Jay-Z/Beyonce crap.

  71. 71.

    J.W. Hamner

    That was a little too quirky in its incoherence to be a troll post methinks. Looks like a legit crazy person who thinks liberals should be destroyed because they don’t understand FREEDOM.

  72. 72.

    lamh35

    @Violet: but he was supposed to be discussing his “immigration” bill BS. instead, the big headline is him “schoolin” Jay-Z

  73. 73.

    RSA

    either an elaborate troll or the work of a real wingnut, you decide

    I vote for “real wingnut”, and in my UTOPIAN FANTASY DELUSION that vote actually counts.

  74. 74.

    Violet

    @lamh35: The very first thing I saw when I turned on the TV was Rubio licking his lips, a la the lame SOTU response. Cracked me right up. He’s not schoolin’ anyone. He’s trying real hard not to be the kid who gets beat up on the playground, though.

  75. 75.

    bemused

    @Redshirt:

    A recent local newspaper wingnut commenter was outraged that media is ignoring/hiding the “huge” controversy about UN gun treaty that will take guns away from Americans. They really believe a majority of Americans are conspiracy theory nuts like them.

  76. 76.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @MomSense:

    Anyway, I looked him up later and a town in Maine had to get a restraining order against him. I feel like I dodged a bullet on that situation.

    Swear to FSM I read that as “Anyway, I locked him up later….”

  79. 79.

    rikyrah

    about Rand Paul getting ‘credit’ for just going to Howard…

    nobody would give someone credit for just ‘ showing up’ to lecture Jews about Judiasm at Brandeis.

    nobody would give someone credit for just ‘showing up’ to lecture Catholics at Notre Dame.

    but somehow, Paul is supposed to get ‘credit’ for ‘ showing up’ to tell Black people about Black History at Howard.

    f-that.

  80. 80.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @bemused: I am actually rather sad that a friend of mine from undergrad has turned into a Lew Rockwell citing libertarian oddball. Seventy-five percent of what he puts on FB is just plain out there. He is concerned that we are focusing on gun violence when the root problem for most mass shootings is the meds that people are given for alleged mental illness.

  81. 81.

    Valdivia

    @lamh35:

    The Che Guevara thing is idiotic. Jay Z didn’t a thing about Cuban history or the character of its regime. All he alluded to, rather cleverly in the song, is the stupidity of the embargo. That we are flooded by goods produced by a communist regime (China) but can’t even visit Cuba. And here comes Rubio being predictable trying to give Jay-Z a history lesson about Che from the 60s. I guess all the horrific things Mao did just don’t count cause he ain’t Cuban.

  82. 82.

    bemused

    @MomSense:

    I think Beck is worse than that. I don’t think he believes all the BS that comes out of his mouth. Working on the gullible 27 percenters’ fears is how he has become fabulously wealthy. He himself said in an interview awhile back that he is just a radio clown. He knows better but does it for big bucks.

  83. 83.

    piratedan

    I am shocked, SHOCKED I TELL YOU, to find you people mocking the principals of libertarianism that were so eloquently expounded upon by Mr. McCarthy as he took the time to attempt to show us the way to enlightenment. What a bunch of lemming-like freeloading hippies with your knee-jerk responses to actual debate taking place within this somewhat dubious setting.

  85. 85.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Cacti: Upside: The police department and the other individual officers all reacted appropriately. Downside: That the guy got through the police department screening process in the first place.

  86. 86.

    lamh35

    @Valdivia: plus how many songs and shit have been written bout Obama? you certainly would never expect Obama to engage in public policy disputes with Ted Nugent or Jon Voight now would you? the usual suspects would call it being beneath the office.

  88. 88.

    Cacti

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Yeah, good on the other officers who turned in the racist POS.

    Bad on the police department who not only hired him, but made him a sergeant.

  89. 89.

    lojasmo

    Ugh. Can’t listen to POTUS or NPR news without hearing Rand Paul’s whiny little voice.

    (Shakes fist at clouds)

  90. 90.

    bemused

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    The scary part is how they intertwine multiple conspiracy theories together. I don’t know how they keep all those crazy thoughts swirling around in their heads at the same time. I suppose it works for them if they just believe everything begins with evil government is trying to kill them.

  91. 91.

    RaflW

    @celticdragonchick:
    No doubt. The closure on the right is certainly a policy problem. When a sitting congresscritter still believes the monkeyf*ck + only teh gays AIDS thing here in 2013, we do not have a real path to negotiated policy bills in gov’t.

    I also shake my head that a paper as pro-buisness and M.O.R. as the Houston Chronicle can get slaged off as lefty, the country – or large swathes of t – is still getting dragged rightward. Defining that paper “liberal” makes everything to the left of the legislative agenda of the Chamber of Commerce seem off the table.

    Its a real problem.

    [FYI trying to post on BJ using an android tablet is a pain in the ass. FYWP, and maybe FY asus.]

  93. 93.

    Suffern ACE

    @lamh35: they don’t know Jayz, they do “know” that he’s one of those gangsta rapper hoodlums who hangs out in the White House.

  94. 94.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @bemused: The weird thing is that my friend was a government major and went to law school. But in his mind now everything is bout liberty and property. Proposed changes in IRA taxation are the government tell you where you can and cannot invest.

  96. 96.

    trollhattan

    OP linked comment got’s to be a troll, a very wordy one. The errant capitalization and punctuation is a bonus.

  97. 97.

    Valdivia

    @lamh35:

    Bingo! I just actually listened to part of that segment on CNN and Rubio sounded like an overheated teenager talking about the Evils Of Tyranny! Listen I am most def not a fan of Castro or Cuba but you listen to this guy talk and you realize he knows shit and is trying to sound like some sort of dissident. Ugh.

  98. 98.

    Bruce S

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    “Went to law school…”

    With all due respect to the diversity among lawyers, some of the dumbest, most incompetent people I’ve met have had law degrees.

  99. 99.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    @lojasmo:

    Stop picking on Rand Paul. He has been enslaved by the sinister life form that’s attached itself to the top of his head.

  101. 101.

    trollhattan

    @rikyrah:

    He’s certainly calculating enough to have gone there for that very reason. Would love to see his rough draft list of “Possible Enemy Territories to Surveil.” Did it include Burning Man and SXSW?

    He probably also has a sad that he was treated respectfully (certainly more respectfully that he warranted). Video clips of him being yelled down and having food thrown at him (I’ll leave what foods he’d have preferred to the imagination) would have had much more currency at campaign resources, but he’ll have to do with these.

    Still undecided whether the curb-stomping video harms or helps him, although I lean towards the latter.

  102. 102.

    Bruce S

    @rikyrah:
    This – Paul’s self-reference giving himself kudos for “showing up” was the first in a long string of insults. The first step in “reaching out” – especially for a public figure whose views are well publicized and on record – would be listening and asking questions, not lecturing out of ignorance.

  103. 103.

    RaflW

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Last night at dinner at the very rich Shady Acres where my dad is, a woman my age who’s had a roughish life but well to do parents, was dissing Obama “for what he’s done to mental health care.”

    It just was not the place or time, in front of her 75 y.o. mom, her step dad, my dad’s fiancee and a good 8 or so Republican retirees that I have to be around, to say “are you fruggin’ nuts!?” (also not wise phrasing, as her adult son apparently rather needs but isn’t getting mental health care).

    The fact that her kid can’t get care is because Republicans fight providing care tooth-and-nail. I wanted to be able to say “y’know, in Minnesota, where our Governor isnt a tax cutting zealtot, it is better. And you may not know it, but the Wellstone mental health parity act is named after a Minnesotan and flaming liberal. But, facts, whatever.”

    I get that she’s angry and scared for her kid. She should be. She lives in fend-for-yourself-you-moocher Texas But talk about blame-shifting!

  105. 105.

    The Red Pen

    Here is the same turd without the glitter on it:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3007470/posts

    There “David McArthy” are your people. Go and be with them.

    On the topic of dealing with trolls, an anti-Catholic trolled the Catholics on Free Republic and got a glorious smackdown. On Catholic response included this:

    Did it ever occur to you that we have had the same misinterpreted verses thrown at us here for years and years already? After a while you realize you’re dealing with Protestant anti-Catholic bigots who not only don’t know what they’re talking about (just a matter of days ago I had to correct such a bigot about a Catholic doctrine he clearly DID NOT UNDERSTAND), but you’re dealing with someone who is too dim to understand that his attacks have already been refuted hundreds of times.

    Replace a few words and you could have a succinct description of how the rest of the world views Freepers. It’s not that they can’t understand the concept of idiot spewing long-debunked talking points, bending the truth, erecting straw men, and so forth… it’s just that they’re too arrogant to stop for a minute and think that they might be that person sometimes.

  106. 106.

    Davis X. Machina

    @MomSense: Big in Maine now, Agenda 21 is. There’s a big meeting coming up here:

    April 20: Dr. Michael Coffman will explain the development, implementation and impact of United Nations Agenda 21, Sustainable Development, Smart Growth, Open Space at 6 p.m. at the Lake Region High School. Impact of Agenda 21 on you and your loved ones include: Abolish forever your private property rights; Seizure of private property; Forbidding human access to millions of acres of land; Depopulation of rural areas forcing people into high density urban settlements; Depopulated areas, including towns and cities, declared Open Space and off-limits to humans.

    We are, regrettably, too cold for the Agenda 21 UN manatees.

  107. 107.

    Mike in NC

    So the Villagers want to hear Rubio’s deep thoughts on guns, immigration, and foreign policy? Did he advocate bombing Havana to scare the North Koreans?

  108. 108.

    Suffern ACE

    @Davis X. Machina: yep. And there is that bill floating around Kansas forbidding all funds for sustainability projects that is the result of this nonsense. But the backers when interviewed wont talk about it because they know it will make them look nutty to outsiders.

  111. 111.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Davis X. Machina:

    Depopulated areas, including towns and cities, declared Open Space and off-limits to humans.

    These twits have nothing to worry about, because it’s their goal in life to devolve back to pond slime.

  112. 112.

    Davis X. Machina

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Depopulated areas, including towns and cities, declared Open Space and off-limits to humans.

    Just so long as they’re not off-limits to hunters. Bad things happen here to people who post their property.

  114. 114.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Davis X. Machina:

    Well, there you go, right there. Suddenly, property rights are really not that important, are they, in a specific context.

    Of course, I forget. The speaker is always the center of the universe, who has rights that none may curtail, even if the assertion of the speaker’s rights infringe on another’s.

    This is always the problem with these types…they don’t quite grasp that they’re going to have to deal with other people and their rights in some ways.

    This is, um, why we have governments. Because, as that commie libtard Madison put it, men are not angels.

    If the government supports my rights, it’s small and proper. If it supports your rights, it’s obviously tyrannical and overreaching.

    Funny how it seems to work out that way, isn’t it?

  121. 121.

    Suffern ACE

    @Davis X. Machina: I do wonder sometimes if Sinclair Lewis were alive today, how he’d be able populate a novel like Main Street with small town characters without just throwing his manuscript away and writing werewolf vampire love stories instead.

  124. 124.

    Redshirt

    @bemused: All Wingnut thought can be boiled down to “My tribe GOOD, Other tribe BAD”.

    All else flows from this, including incorporating any and all dissonances and contradictory opinions.

    Great example – of course they’re the bestest Patriots ever, while simultaneously semi-rooting for North Korea to nuke California, cuz, you know, OBAMA!

    They’re all fucking insane, and dangerous.

  125. 125.

    schrodinger's cat

    @Omnes Omnibus: One of my good friends from school has turned into a libertarian nutcase, after she started home-schooling her daughter.
    @bemused: They can promote him but can’t give him hair. He is on his way to becoming bald in the next couple of years.

  129. 129.

    Mnemosyne

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Of course, I forget. The speaker is always the center of the universe, who has rights that none may curtail, even if the assertion of the speaker’s rights infringe on another’s.

    Yep. We’re dealing with overgrown three-year-olds who never got beyond the point of screaming “MINE!”

    Or, you know, seagulls.

  132. 132.

    Mnemosyne

    @Davis X. Machina:

    I keep trying to explain to wingnuts that the reason we need to do something about global warming is not to “save the earth” but to protect ourselves from the earth. Obviously Mother Nature has no qualms about mass extinctions, so why do the wingnuts think we’re any more immune from them than the other species nature wiped out before us?

  133. 133.

    Redshirt

    @Mnemosyne: Cuz of Liberal lies, of course. Are the Libs for it? Then they’re against it – burn, world, burn.

    And when the flames reach them, they’ll blame the Libs again.

  134. 134.

    muddy

    @Mnemosyne: Because god told them personally that they are not like animals, they are superior and in charge. Silly animals getting extinct, that’s what they get for not following the christ.

    Anyway if something bad happened to the planet, I’m sure they imagine it would trigger Armageddon and they would shoot up to heaven unharmed.

  135. 135.

    TerryC

    @Higgs Boson’s Mate: Not just dumb, sometimes evil. I’m a Michigan Law graduate and there were a ton of socio- and psycho-paths in classes with me and in the dorm. I have stories that would curl your hair.

  136. 136.

    Eric U.

    @MomSense: pretty sure that Glenn Beck is insane. You don’t have to listen to his radio show long to see how unhinged he is. He assumes you live in his little world with him. I think most schizophrenics have a tighter grasp on reality than he does

  137. 137.

    22over7

    @Mnemosyne:

    They see food riots, water riots, government disruption, war, and famine. (Note: I see all those things too.) But their conclusion is, not to work to keep those horrific things from happening, but to prepare for it. They think it’s inevitable and even welcome it. Their bunkers, guns, and bibles are all they need to survive. They all think of themselves as frickin’ Rick Grimes.

  138. 138.

    MomSense

    @Davis X. Machina:

    OMG–gotta love Maine newspaper bulletins. Lovely dance numbers at the musical Molly, a haddock dinner at Our Lady of Perpetual Help (paging Garrison Keiller) and a bunch of conspiracy wahoos will gather to talk about forced urban resettlement.

    Oooh and our bully Governor is giving a talk as well.

    WOW!

    Manatees??? Really???

  139. 139.

    Jebediah

    @bemused:

    I think Beck is worse than that. I don’t think he believes all the BS that comes out of his mouth. Working on the gullible 27 percenters’ fears is how he has become fabulously wealthy. He himself said in an interview awhile back that he is just a radio clown. He knows better but does it for big bucks.

    I think he has always been a scumbag. Back when he was a morning-zoo shock jock, he called (on-air) his big rival DJ and “joked” that the guy couldn’t do anything right, including making a baby. The hee-larious part is that the guy’s wife had just suffered a miscarriage (which Beck knew.) I wonder if being reminded of that would turn off any of his current fans.

  140. 140.

    Suffern ACE

    Also, to deal with the substance of his rant. Even if I threw off the partisanship, I’m still not voting for the libertarian party.

  141. 141.

    Amir Khalid

    @Yutsano:
    The Donald, being a reality-TV caricature of a billionaire, actually looks the part in a comb-over. And when Marco Rubio is finally in a follicular state to need a comb-over, he too will look like an authentic phony, which should do wonders for his presidential primary prospects in 2016. At least at some point, if for no more than a couple of weeks.

  143. 143.

    Yutsano

    @Amir Khalid: Marco is still a brown, even if he is (obviously) a Spanish Cuban. There is just no way he sells himself to the teatards cuz all they see is Messican takin’ their jerbs!! But then again I thought no way a Mormon wins the South so…

  144. 144.

    Eric U.

    @Mnemosyne: unfortunately, they can’t grasp that they are in danger, partially because the world looks so large and immutable. The most likely state of a planet in the universe is no life whatsoever. I’m pretty sure we could wipe out almost all life on this planet with a few bad decisions.

  145. 145.

    Anya

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Marco Rubio is the living embodiment of the Peter Principle. He’s a lousy senator and he doesn’t know what he’s doing. He always speaks in shallow platitudes. So, even in the republican land of low expectation I don’t think he’s going anywhere.

  147. 147.

    22over7

    @Yutsano:

    Me too. Never, ever thought the evangelicals would tolerate a Mormon. But then Huckabee came out early and blessed him, and that was that. Astonishing.

  148. 148.

    Sly

    @lojasmo:

    Ugh. Can’t listen to POTUS or NPR news without hearing Rand Paul’s whiny little voice.

    POTUS has an hour-long daily program called “Politics Powered By Twitter.” You’re not missing anything.

  149. 149.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    @Mnemosyne:

    Obviously Mother Nature has no qualms about mass extinctions, so why do the wingnuts think we’re any more immune from them than the other species nature wiped out before us?

    Because we’re the only species on the planet dominated by a vast majority within that thinks we are some creator’s (or creators’) special children?

    ETA: Not to let atheists off the hook in this regard, either, because I’ve talked to many who seem to believe that that which differentiates us necessarily makes us better.

  150. 150.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @TerryC: Isn’t Ann Coulter a Michigan Law alumna?

    @Anya: Michael Grunwald, who lives in Florida and for whom I have a lot of respect, says people should not underestimate Rubio, so I wonder if it’s just my partisan blinders, but he really seems unimpressive in every way to me. He doesn’t fill his suit, and his rhetorical choices seem to be following the “well, we know nobody likes Obama, so I’ll just say [X}” that was the essence of Romney’s campaign.

  151. 151.

    monkeyfister

    The 27% Crazification Factor is real:

    http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/10/lunch-discussions-145-crazification.html

    John: Hey, Bush is now at 37% approval. I feel much less like Kevin McCarthy screaming in traffic. But I wonder what his base is —

    Tyrone: 27%.

    John: … you said that immmediately, and with some authority.

    Tyrone: Obama vs. Alan Keyes. Keyes was from out of state, so you can eliminate any established political base; both candidates were black, so you can factor out racism; and Keyes was plainly, obviously, completely crazy. Batshit crazy. Head-trauma crazy. But 27% of the population of Illinois voted for him. They put party identification, personal prejudice, whatever ahead of rational judgement. Hell, even like 5% of Democrats voted for him. That’s crazy behaviour. I think you have to assume a 27% Crazification Factor in any population.

    John: Objectively crazy or crazy vis-a-vis my own inertial reference frame for rational behaviour? I mean, are you creating the Theory of Special Crazification or General Crazification?

    Tyrone: Hadn’t thought about it. Let’s split the difference. Half just have worldviews which lead them to disagree with what you consider rationality even though they arrive at their positions through rational means, and the other half are the core of the Crazification — either genuinely crazy; or so woefully misinformed about how the world works, the bases for their decision making is so flawed they may as well be crazy.

    John: You realize this leads to there being over 30 million crazy people in the US?

    Tyrone: Does that seem wrong?

    John: … a bit low, actually.

  152. 152.

    quannlace

    Their bunkers, guns, and bibles are all they need to survive.

    And don’t forget those vegetable seeds and gold that they bought from Glen Beck.

  155. 155.

    Jennifer

    @Yutsano: It’s ok to be wrong about God if you’re right about hating the same folks and openly expressing it.

    “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” and all that. Rmoney convinced the red-staters that if anything, he might hate and be willing to punish poor people (read: dark) even more than they hate them or have been able to punish them. So what if he was a follower of a wackaloon religion? God will take care of that in all due time and send his infidel ass to hell; in the meantime, he’s willing to put some serious hurt on all the folks we hate, so no need to let the opportunity pass! Plus, he’s not black.

    On second thought, that last one was the only thing he needed to curry favor with the Christianist base; the whole “enemy of my enemy” stuff just helped them rationalize it.

  157. 157.

    The prophet Nostradumbass

    @TooManyJens:

    He forgot “UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED.”

    Robert McElwaine?

  158. 158.

    minutemaid

    Will mistermix be able to get through 2 days without once mentioning Chained CPI….I point and laugh…you decide.

  159. 159.

    J.D. Rhoades

    @Jebediah:

    Back when he was a morning-zoo shock jock, he called (on-air) his big rival DJ and “joked” that the guy couldn’t do anything right, including making a baby. The hee-larious part is that the guy’s wife had just suffered a miscarriage (which Beck knew.) I wonder if being reminded of that would turn off any of his current fans.

    Since so many conservatives seem to be conservatives purely to give them ideological cover for being total fucking assholes, I’d say no.

  162. 162.

    Bubblegum Tate

    Good troll. It really sounds a lot like a wingnut I know–same vocab and everything.

  163. 163.

    J.D. Rhoades

    @lamh35:

    yeah I get that in Florida, but even nationally, how many ole white people nationally even know or care ’bout jay z?

    They know Jay-Z plays that Neeegro music. That’s all they need to know. Bash rapper, collect wingnut cred, repeat.

  164. 164.

    Anya

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I like Michael Grunwald but I am not sure about his assesment of Rubio. Rubio is made for the CPAC types and the mainstream media. So I guess the media will still oooh and aaaah over him and he’ll get a lot of attention. But he will not impress anyone with his intellect or his grasp of the issues. He’s an overgrown college republican.

  166. 166.

    Bubblegum Tate

    @MomSense:

    He starts with the strawman argument that liberals want an unlimited federal government.

    The wingnut I mentioned in the above post absolutely LOVES that talking point. IN her world, there are two and only two political philosophies:

    1) “Constitutional conservatism”

    2) Everything else, aka SOSHULISM, aka, as she frequently puts it “a government of infinite size, scope, and power.” In her world, if you aren’t a “constitutional conservative,” then you want an infinitely powerful government whether you know it or not.

  167. 167.

    DPS

    It’s kind of beautiful. Over the course of a single comment you see a butthurt Paultard caterpillar transform into a fascist, eliminationist butterfly.

  168. 168.

    bemused

    @Jebediah:

    Yes, I remember reading that. Before that disgusting call, Beck and the other DJ were once friendly rivals, iirc, and would socialize with each other. Beck is a scumbag and showed early on how low he would go to “succeed”.

  172. 172.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    @Mnemosyne:

    Except, by that account, the 8 people who repopulated the planet. And it isn’t like Yaweh unleashed the flood waters because Noah deforested a large area to build that ginormous boat of his. Now that would have taught a lesson.

  173. 173.

    Mnemosyne

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again):

    Except, by that account, the 8 people who repopulated the planet.

    And? Not all of the dinosaurs died after their mass extinction event, either — many of them live on in a familiar form. In fact, the evidence is now so clear that the extinct dinosaurs are called “non-avian” to differentiate them from the ones that we have today.

    Again — it says very clearly in the Bible, the book that the deniers claim to revere, that the Great Flood was the fault of humans. They have to twist themselves into knots, or pretend it says something else entirely, to escape that. So don’t let them.

  175. 175.

    Another Halocene Human

    LGF just posted the Dana Perino Rap Fail. I don’t have a login there but it just occurred to me that Nikki Minaj’s “Stupid Hoe” beef track would fit better as a response to Perino and FOX than whatever dumb interpersonal shit originally inspired it.

    I mean, I think it really hits the correct intellectual note to meet Tiny D’s wordsmithing and pre-performance commentary at its intended niveau.

  177. 177.

    danielx

    Gosh, let me see…lots of CAPITALIZED PHRASES, “pathetic nobodies”, “unAmerican scum”, “enemies of freedom”. Yup, I’d say a serious case of teh crazy; the only thing missing is “traitors”.

    I’m thinking complete screaming wingnut. A troll wouldn’t put that much effort into a comment.

    Do Jesus, makes you wonder if he really didn’t have anything better to do on Sunday morning.

  179. 179.

    Redshirt

    What a crazy ass myth – that all of humanity started with two people, but then after their successful launch of the human species, God decided they were too wicked and killed them all, except for Noah and clan. Who then set out once again to create the human species – a species still wicked with Original Sin, since they were the descendents of that wicked Eve.

    And yay, it is only God’s son – JESUS! – who can save any of us from spending eternity in torture and Hellfire! But it’s cool though, cuz all you got to do is say you believe in Jesus and otherwise do whatever you want.

  180. 180.

    Another Halocene Human

    I’m a Net News Anon and I’m here to say
    That Tiny D’s rhymes really made my day
    To rap in this cadence is so old school
    Dana you’d betta check yo’ mouf for drool
    Yo flow’s so white, it’s a bag o’ bleached bones
    It’s clunky like a land line telephone
    Speakin’ o’ phones, sounds like you phoned it in
    Your jokes are less fresh than Benny Hinn
    In closing, if you ever want to take the floor
    Promise God on your knees y’ain’t gonna rap no more!

  183. 183.

    Mnemosyne

    @Redshirt:

    But it’s cool though, cuz all you got to do is say you believe in Jesus and otherwise do whatever you want.

    Only if you’re a Protestant. If you’re a Catholic, you have to do good works and go to Father Grabbyhands to confess your sins.

    One of the only times I got a Protestant proselytizer to leave me alone was when I asked him to explain why the Bible says, “Faith without works is dead” if all I needed for salvation was to accept JC into my heart. He moved to the other end of the bus stop after that.

  184. 184.

    Another Halocene Human

    @Redshirt: God sounds like an anti-social coder who stayed up all night on a deadline fueled by Mt Dew and blames the hardware or stupid end users when his buggy code crashes.

  187. 187.

    Another Halocene Human

    @Mnemosyne: Wow, I did not know that. That’s kinda… aweinspiring. How incurious do you have to be?

    I keep mixing up Dana Perino (Dunning-Krueger Dana Perino?) with vile racist Dana Loesch, which is terribly unfair, although to which of them I’m not sure.

  190. 190.

    Violet

    @Another Halocene Human: The thing about the Dana Perino rap is that she and all the other pundits sitting there are making fun of rap–and by extension the people who rap, who conveniently mostly seem to be black. It’s a way to yet again belittle and tear down the African American community in the eyes of the white people who are watching, without ever saying anything about African Americans. Dogwhistles galore.

  193. 193.

    Redshirt

    What’s the ruling on your residence in Hell if you were born before Jesus? For instance, the unlucky generation born and died just before Jesus was saving souls? They had no chance at all to hear the Good News, but were oh so close. Do they too burn in everlasting HELLFIRE?

    I bring religion up here, by the way, because I think the religious fundamentalist is the same as the wingnut. They are the same phenomena in different forms.

  195. 195.

    lojasmo

    @Sly:

    POTUS has an hour-long daily program called “Politics Powered By Twitter.” You’re not missing anything.

    Yeah, I’ve heard a few seconds of it, a couple times.

  196. 196.

    Another Halocene Human

    @Violet: It’s goal post moving, as the dozens is a violence-free test of vertu involving spontaneous lyricizing, slam poetry, and braggadoccio. It’s exactly the sort of shit 1950s racists would piss their pants over and Very Seriously declare that the mud peoples didn’t have the wits for with their jungle music and big peniFYWPs. How many Caucasian Wingnuts have written, bought, and Christmas gifted books with titles of the genus “The Wit and Wisdom Of–“?

    So now you have these urban yout’s, the ‘stone that builder rejected’ of society engaging in competitive poetry, trying to top each other on mastery of the English language and the rhetorical arts (you know, the kind of shit they teach in exam schools?), and now the white supremacists engage in frantic goalpost removal. Rap is stupid because “it’s not even music” (????). And… that’s all they’ve got.

    FYWP!!

  197. 197.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    @raven:

    My one Big John Mazmanian anecdote. I was running at Irwindale and I was under the hood changing plugs between rounds. “Is that the engine?” someone asked. I looked around and it was Big John. “Yeah, that’s the engine,” I answered. “Is that the only engine?” Then he shook my hand.

  198. 198.

    Another Halocene Human

    Mods: delete the duplicate when you unmoderate, please?

    @Violet: It’s goal post moving, as the dozens is a violence-free test of vertu involving spontaneous lyricizing, slam poetry, and braggadoccio. It’s exactly the sort of shit 1950s racists would piss their pants over and Very Seriously declare that the mud peoples didn’t have the wits for with their jungle music and big peniFYWPs. How many Caucasian Wingnuts have written, bought, and Christmas gifted books with titles of the genus “The Wit and Wisdom Of–“?

    So now you have these urban yout’s, the ‘stone that builder rejected’ of society engaging in competitive poetry, trying to top each other on mastery of the English language and the rhetorical arts (you know, the kind of shit they teach in exam schools?), and now the white supremacists engage in frantic goalpost removal. Rap is stupid because “it’s not even music” (????). And… that’s all they’ve got.

    FYWP!!

  199. 199.

    Morzer

    @Citizen_X:

    Come now, Tywin Lannister had his faults, but I am sure he knew how to use capital letters. Neither Jaime nor Cersei would care enough to rant at such turgid length and Tyrion would be looking for whores before he finished the first “paragraph”.

    My money is on Gregor Clegane.

  202. 202.

    Violet

    @raven: A lot of the commentary I’ve seen has been along the “Dana Perino totally sucks at rapping” and “Why would she even try to rap?” variety. The dog whistling seems to be less remarked upon–at least from what I’ve seen. Thought it deserved a mention. Perhaps I’ve missed the posts on it.

  204. 204.

    sylvan

    the LEGAL FRAMEWORK for the federal government is the Constitution

    Just for fun, ask the next wingnut you meet the main gist of the Third Amendment.

  205. 205.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @Violet:

    she and all the other pundits sitting there are making fun of rap–and by extension the people who rap, who conveniently mostly seem to be black. It’s a way to yet again belittle and tear down the African American community in the eyes of the white people who are watching, without ever saying anything about African Americans.

    Ironically driving away many young (and not-so-young) non-African-Americans who happen to enjoy hip-hop and rap.

  207. 207.

    Citizen_X

    @Morzer: I realize it was a bit unfair, because most of the Lannisters–even Cersei–would at least have some sense of craft and subtlety. But, as commenters picked up on above, Joffrey? Oh yeah. All spittle, all caps.

  209. 209.

    JPL

    ot.. They are holding a former justice of the peace for making terrorist threats against the Kaufman Cty. D.A. Bail is 3 million because they think he was responsible for killing the D.A. and his wife. Dallas Morning News article is here.
    This is from a neighbor

    “He had a dog that was raising hell and I emailed him. And I said, ‘Judge you got a dog, I hate to complain, but you got a dog that’s just raising hell,’ … and I said it’s noticeable. … He picked up the phone and called me. He said, ‘I’ll take care of it.’ And I don’t know what he did, but I didn’t hear that dog again.”

    sounds like a nice guy

  210. 210.

    raven

    @JPL: “Anybody that rides a Segway up and down the street in Kaufman, Texas, is kinda strange, but that doesn’t make you guilty of anything.”

  212. 212.

    Joe Bauers

    David McCarthy can no longer sit back and allow communist infiltration, communist indoctrination, communist subversion, and the international communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

  214. 214.

    MomSense

    @Bubblegum Tate:

    That must be the first talking point on the wingnut list. I hear that one all the time. And then they get started on the constitution–selective parts of it plus a bunch of things that are not actually in the constitution. Funny but that is sort of the way the same folks read the bible.

    When they start talking about the 10 commandments I always ask which ones–get some great reactions with that question.

  215. 215.

    Chris

    @Cacti:

    Buh, buh, but Latinos are natural conservatives! Every Republican tells me so.

    Was this before or after they told you that Messicans don’t have a work ethic, are all on welfare, and bring crime and drugs to our neighborhoods?

  216. 216.

    Davis X. Machina

    @MomSense: Welcome to my world. My WalMart is up the road from Our Lady of Perpetual Help. (She was Our Lady of Perpetual Succor when I was a boy, but you can’t get away with that today…)

  217. 217.

    Chris

    @Eric U.:

    unfortunately, they can’t grasp that they are in danger, partially because the world looks so large and immutable

    I think this goes along with the “seeing yourself not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires” view of society. Those of them that accept global warming accept that some people are going to get fucked by it, but they assume that they’ll be smart and successful enough to be among those who make it. Which is kind of like their approach to all the current problems of economics, and society in general.

  218. 218.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    @Mnemosyne: Hell try to get them to do what Jesus says in Matthew 25:40, instead of bloviating about John 3:16, and they will look at you like you were the devil.
    @Redshirt: They go around this by quoting Revelations, supposedly everyone will be raised from the dead and given a chance for a thousand years to get right with God, then after a ,1000 years Satan will be released and if you, join his band, in the final battle, you will be tossed in the lake of fire, depending on which End Times preacher you listen too.

  219. 219.

    Citizen Alan

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Yeah, this. Going after Jay-Z and Beyonce helps Rubio with that certain segment of the GOP that might be uncomfortable with a Cuban-American President but who instinctively hate Jay-Z and Beyonce because they are successful and popular despite the handicap of being NEAR!

  220. 220.

    MomSense

    @Davis X. Machina:

    Ha! I am a little curious about the Coffman talk. Would be interesting to see who shows up at that kind of gathering. Might have to wear a disguise though.

  221. 221.

    Citizen Alan

    @Cacti:

    Yeah, good on the other officers who turned in the racist POS.

    Bad on the police department who not only hired him, but made him a sergeant.

    Can psych profiles even catch racists? Just asking because I don’t know, but I would assume that the profiling the cops put new recruits through are designed to catch people who are actually mentally ill. A guy who hates black people but who is otherwise perfectly sane probably isn’t going to announce his true feelings about race in a job interview. This guy through he was among “friends” and badly misjudged the people he was going out with for a friendly afternoon at the shooting range. That doesn’t mean that he’s ever done anything previously that would have put the PD on notice of his issues.

  222. 222.

    Chris

    @Citizen Alan:

    True.

    It’s a time honored tradition of conservative minority candidates to endear themselves with the conservative base by attacking other hated minorities. Irish-Catholic and professed anti-black anti-semetic preacher Charles Coughlin is an example.

  223. 223.

    Redshirt

    @Mr Stagger Lee: Do the people killed in The Great Flood get brought back too? The children, killed in The Great Flood? The Mothers and Fathers and Lovers and Siblings and Cousins and all this great Human family, wiped out, because?

    What rule did mankind break, God, to deserve getting near-exctincted (which likely did indeed happen in human history where we as a species were brought down to very few breeding pairs and it’s a miracle we’re here today, for better or ill for the Earth.)?

    Why, God, why?

  225. 225.

    Mnemosyne

    @Redshirt:

    What rule did mankind break, God, to deserve getting near-exctincted (which likely did indeed happen in human history where we as a species were brought down to very few breeding pairs and it’s a miracle we’re here today, for better or ill for the Earth.)?

    According to the story of Noah and various others (like Lot), we were being assholes to each other and God couldn’t handle the squabbling anymore, so he decided to start over. Sort of like your parents threatening to turn the car around if you didn’t stop fighting, but with more permanent consequences.

    Seriously, re-read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah again with adult eyes — it’s laid out very clearly that the sin of those cities was being inhospitable to strangers (threatening to rape/kill the visiting angels rather than welcoming them).

  226. 226.

    Xjmueller

    @Davis X. Machina:

    Before the big meeting someone should check the county or town/city zoning ordinance. I’ll bet there is already law on the books that requires a developer to include open space when planning a development. Open space requirements and clustering to create walkable neighborhoods/save land have been around for a long time. Most planning commissions, which are appointed by local govt, have embraced this. It ain’t a international conspiracy, it’s a damned local govt plot! Loudoun Co Va is very republican and it’s in the zoning, because locals don’t want what’s left of the rural western part to be paved over.

  227. 227.

    Another Halocene Human

    @Violet: The dog whistle I think is a dog whistle (unlike the open racism we’ve seen recently) and I would guess that a lot of the (young) people lol’ing at her FAIL missed it because they miss the context.

    I remember, though. I thought her plausible-deniability comments about rap being a complex genre were sick and wanted to punch her in the face. Then to do such a horrible job… yeah… yeah I guess it is a complex genre YOU FAILTURD.

  228. 228.

    Another Halocene Human

    @Citizen Alan: Depends how slick they are and what kind of goals the PD was setting with their screening.

    You probably have to refresh your tests and approach every 5 years because the really determined social dominators will find out how to psych out the test once it becomes familiar and known. Generally, though, the young social dominator will badly misjudge how different their attitudes are from 98% of the population and this can be used to smoke them out.

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