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You are here: Home / Arrested development

Arrested development

by DougJ|  April 17, 20133:01 pm| 139 Comments

This post is in: Our Failed Media Experiment

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Ouch.

This is a scathing statement from the FBI: twitter.com/BrettLoGiurato…

— Brett LoGiurato (@BrettLoGiurato) April 17, 2013

Even I am a little bit surprised by the amount of misinformation being spread on this one.

Update. Here’s a link to the statement from the FBI.

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  1. 1.

    Sly

    April 17, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Even I am a little bit surprised by the amount of misinformation being spread on this one.

    Really?

  2. 2.

    Ben Grimm

    April 17, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    For those of us who can’t access twitter at work, what’s at the link?

  3. 3.

    askew

    April 17, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    What’s scary is that CNN has learned nothing from their Obamacare ruling screw-up and that they get insanely huge ratings for these types of breaking news. So millions got the incorrect news.

  4. 4.

    dmsilev

    April 17, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    I assume that the media’s response will be
    (a) Convene a set of round-table discussions where Serious Discussions of the Role of the Media will be held.
    and
    (b) Keep chasing elusive ‘scoops’ and ‘breaking news’ events with all the attention span of a hyperactive 2 year old.

  5. 5.

    Comrade Jake

    April 17, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    People don’t call them mediots for nothing.

  6. 6.

    sonofsamantha

    April 17, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    I won’t believe it till George Will tells me it’s true.

  7. 7.

    4tehlulz

    April 17, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    Websense haet Twitter; how pissed is the FBI?

  8. 8.

    Trentrunner

    April 17, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    CNN: 1980 – 2013. RIP.

  9. 9.

    Cassidy

    April 17, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    Even I am a little bit surprised by the amount of misinformation being spread on this one.

    Seriously? These idiots would whore out their own wives and children if they thought it would get them a scoop.

  10. 10.

    cleek

    April 17, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    This Just In:
    The above statement was not, I repeat, not issued by the FBI.

    Robert Pollard, GBV.

  11. 11.

    scav

    April 17, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    @FBI: STFU CNN AP . . .

  12. 12.

    dmsilev

    April 17, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    @Ben Grimm: It’s just an image showing the text of the FBI statement. Via TPM and the AP, the text is

    “Contrary to widespread reporting, there have been no arrests made in connection with the Boston Marathon attack,” the FBI said in a statement. “Over the past day and a half, there have been a number of press reports based on information from unofficial sources that has been inaccurate. Since these stories often have unintended consequences, we ask the media, particularly at this early stage of the investigation, to exercise caution and attempt to verify information through appropriate official channels before reporting.”

  13. 13.

    Trentrunner

    April 17, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Oh, and CBS is reporting that the suspect is a “white male,” not “dark-skinned,” as CNN’s John King reported.

    As someone tweeted, CNN should just run a yule log for a few weeks.

  14. 14.

    Another Halocene Human

    April 17, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Omnes said something earlier that resonated with me. I think it’s going to turn out that the perp is more like Newtown and Aurora. Specifically, I think (with the timing) that it’s going to be a Breivik sort. Breivik’s trial was followed obsessively by the white supremacist set. After he heroically started off the race culture war, the Trollords of the North exiled him to a cold, dark ice cave from which he shall never emerge. So the would-be Breiviks have learned to hide their little light behind the rock.

    I truly believe the person behind this is unable to connect with others and feels rage when he (or she) sees throngs of happy people enjoying themselves. Hurting them and making them afraid gives this person pleasure. And with that motivation, staying anonymous is even more important because fear is heightened when you don’t know who did it and don’t know where the next strike will be.

  15. 15.

    Anna in PDX

    April 17, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    @dmsilev: Thanks! Wish they had issued something similar yeseterday.

  16. 16.

    Kay

    April 17, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    It’s not just around terrorism, either:

    The police announced to a press hungry for sensational crime stories that the young men had been part of a gang of teenagers who were out “wilding,” assaulting joggers and bicyclists in Central Park that evening. The ensuing media frenzy was met with a public outcry for justice. The young men were tried as adults under New York laws of the day — and convicted, despite inconsistent and inaccurate confessions, DNA evidence that excluded them, and no eyewitness accounts that connected them to the victim.

  17. 17.

    Bulworth

    April 17, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    we ask the media, particularly at this early stage of the investigation, to exercise caution and attempt to verify information through appropriate official channels before reporting.”

    Kind of like the principal telling the kidz to behave themselves.

  18. 18.

    DougJ

    April 17, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    @Ben Grimm:

    Just what’s written below.

  19. 19.

    Nemo_N

    April 17, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    I wonder if the “it can’t be a white guy” mentality contributes to all the bad reports.

  20. 20.

    Jay in Oregon

    April 17, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    @Trentrunner:

    As someone tweeted, CNN should just run a yule log for a few weeks.

    Fire everyone, close the main office and replace it with a Build-A-Bear store; it’d be a more productive use of the space.

  21. 21.

    Ben Grimm

    April 17, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Thanks.

  22. 22.

    Sloegin

    April 17, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    Blogger ethics panel!

    Too soon?

  23. 23.

    scav

    April 17, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    Can I just add I find the highlighted a gem of pointed underspeak.

    we ask the media, particularly at this early stage of the investigation, to exercise caution and attempt to verify information through appropriate official channels before reporting.”

  24. 24.

    peach flavored shampoo

    April 17, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    CNN cant take their dick out of their own ass without screwing something up. Why would we beleive such a shithead media outlet?

  25. 25.

    Ben Franklin

    April 17, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    Either CNN got punked by an angry source or he’s under arrest and they have other suspects they don’t want to spook. Some local Boston cop got his clock cleaned by his betters at the FBI for the leak.

    I think it was King who called it and I imagine he made sure his source was sure, before letting his ass hang out there. A little embarrassing.

  26. 26.

    Dave

    April 17, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    Now there’s a bomb threat made to the courthouse. Just gets crazier and crazier…

  27. 27.

    CorbinDallasMultipass

    April 17, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    Link to TPM report:

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ap-feds-deny-suspect-in-custody-in-boston-bombing.php

  28. 28.

    reflectionephemeral

    April 17, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    Things is, for official developments (e.g., an arrest, or in another context, an athlete signing a contract), it really doesn’t matter much who gets it first.

    At least, not in a “providing a useful service” sense; I guess it’s worth a ton of extra clicks, and I guess that’s what matters.

    There are many times & places for reports from outside journalists rather than official announcements to get to the root of a story; that’s just not the case with this story right now.

  29. 29.

    Davis X. Machina

    April 17, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    There’s a fine line between stepping on your own dick, and using it instead of a treadmill. CNN crossed it a while ago.

  30. 30.

    nellcote

    April 17, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    It’s sort of impressive how fast “news” flows from right wing blogs to CNN. I think they broke their record today.

  31. 31.

    kc

    April 17, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    Is John King’s source deliberately fucking with him?

  32. 32.

    Chyron HR

    April 17, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    @Trentrunner:

    Oh, and CBS is reporting that the suspect is a “white male,” not “dark-skinned,” as CNN’s John King reported.

    They meant his skin was dark with GUILT. Metaphorical-like.

  33. 33.

    Alex S.

    April 17, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    @Dave:

    Yes, the possibility to politicize the shit out of this tragedy causes as much dread as giddiness, in some cases both emotions in the same people. For some reason, it’s worse than anything since 9/11.

  34. 34.

    Woodrowfan

    April 17, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    BBC also reported “dark skinned”

    Given the Time Square attempt it could well have been an Al-Quida(ish) attack or as the normal RW white racist nutbag. let’s wait and see.

  35. 35.

    Davis X. Machina

    April 17, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    @Alex S.:Casualty-wise, as a disaster, Monday was on a par with the 1919 Great Molasses Flood.

    Of course, we didn’t invade the West Indies after that one.

    But then we didn’t have cable television or think-tanks yet.

    Progress is a very mixed blessing.

  36. 36.

    RaflW

    April 17, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    CNN, which hasn’t exactly been covered in glory lately, is really turning to sh*t in this whole Boston situation.

    Never mind that Fox is far worse, with dangerous idiots like Steve “he must be guilty because they’re searching his appt” Doocy.

    At this point nearly all the networks are desperate to report something. Tough darts, police investigations don’t move at the pace of a 46 minute police procedural on TV. And they could be spending plenty of time on things like Mark Sanford being dumped by the GOP money-men because he may have been trespassing (stalking?) his ex wife’s place in February.

    That’s some juicy, right-up-cable-nooz alley stuff, right there.

  37. 37.

    Calouste

    April 17, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    @Woodrowfan:

    Any credibility the BBC had in their American reporting they lost years ago. It’s just CNN with a different accent these days.

  38. 38.

    schrodinger's cat

    April 17, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    @kc: Possible. John King does seem rather self satisfied.

  39. 39.

    Seanly

    April 17, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    CNN makes stupid blunder? It unpossible! More importantly though, Headline News is back to coverage of recapping reality TV shows and the Jodi Arias trial. We must carry on!

  40. 40.

    Punchy

    April 17, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    Why are they evacuating the courthouse now? When does this circus end?

  41. 41.

    RaflW

    April 17, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    @Seanly: Headline News is back to coverage of recapping reality TV shows and the Jodi Arias trial. We must carry on!

    Good. They can’t do as much damage to the national psyche with that dreck.

  42. 42.

    ArchTeryx

    April 17, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    The entire media disaster around Boston once more, especially strongly, brings to mind a bit from that classic “Dirty Laundry”, by Don Henley, more relevant now then it was in the 80s:

    I make my living off the evening news
    Give me something – something I can use!
    People love it when you lose
    They love dirty laundry…

  43. 43.

    dmsilev

    April 17, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    Dumbest statement of the day award goes to Louie Gohmert (a frequent winner):

    Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX), one of the most conservative members of the House, said on Wednesday that Islamic terrorists were training members to pretend to be Latino in order to infiltrate the United States.

    I don’t know what to say. I just don’t.

  44. 44.

    Alex S.

    April 17, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    @Davis X. Machina:

    And I guess that people feel more comfortable to discuss bombs than guns because bombs are always bad and guns are always good, so Ft. Hood, Aurora, Virginia Tech etc… were not this kind of open battle because there’s a gun debate and for the media both sides do it! With bombs, you know that there was a bad man and you just look forward to blame the other side for it.

  45. 45.

    RaflW

    April 17, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    @Punchy: Copycat call-in bomb threats are not uncommon after something like Monday’s tragedy. There are damaged souls out there at the end of telephone lines/unlocked cellphones/twitter accounts.

  46. 46.

    Chris

    April 17, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    @peach flavored shampoo:

    CNN cant take their dick out of their own ass without screwing something up.

    “We apologize for the error in the news. The people responsible for the sacking of the people who have just been sacked have just been sacked.”
    /CNN on suspect-in-custody? controversy

  47. 47.

    schrodinger's cat

    April 17, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    @peach flavored shampoo: CNN went downhill after Ted Turner left.

  48. 48.

    GregB

    April 17, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    @Alex S.:

    Bombs don’t kill people!

  49. 49.

    RaflW

    April 17, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    @dmsilev: Shorter Louie Gohmert: Amerikkka is only safe if it only contains white people.

  50. 50.

    Violet

    April 17, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: Yeah. The AOL takeover was the real beginning of the downhill slide.

  51. 51.

    CorbinDallasMultipass

    April 17, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/boston-federal-courthouse-evacuated-over-bomb-threat-1.5091250

    Here’s the evacuation report.

  52. 52.

    Roger Moore

    April 17, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Dumbest statement of the day award goes to Louie Gohmert

    Don’t crown the champion until the race is over. There’s a good chance of somebody saying something even dumber before the end of the day. And, yes, there’s a reasonable chance that it will be Gohmert topping his own stupidity.

  53. 53.

    Violet

    April 17, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    @dmsilev: Hey! That’s what I predicted yesterday the wingnuts would say. Louie Gohmert is slow. In more ways than one obviously.

  54. 54.

    MomSense

    April 17, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    @CorbinDallasMultipass:

    Just had a friend call to say that he was evacuated and that the place was surrounded by cops.

  55. 55.

    ericblair

    April 17, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    @dmsilev:

    I don’t know what to say. I just don’t.

    Vaya con Allah?

    Official response from CNN: We at CNN take our responsibility SQUIRREL!

  56. 56.

    ? Martin

    April 17, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    Shorter FBI: Pipe the fuck down!

  57. 57.

    Roger Moore

    April 17, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    @RaflW:

    Copycat call-in bomb threats are not uncommon after something like Monday’s tragedy

    Also, too, consider the case that there genuinely hasn’t been an arrest. In that case, there’s a known bomber out there, which makes this kind of threat especially credible. Blowing up a press conference about the bombing investigation would be a really spectacular follow-up attack.

  58. 58.

    Trollhattan

    April 17, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    The Globe also has Brigham and Women’s Hospital being evacuated (whatever that means).

    Many of the victims were taken there.

    ETA. Evidently a suspicious car. Evacuation has been lifted.

    I can understand the general jitteriness.

  59. 59.

    the Conster

    April 17, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    Holy shit what a fucking day to be in the middle of Boston. It’s like the epicenter of teh craaazzzeeeeee.

  60. 60.

    David Koch

    April 17, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    Bush lackey Fran Townsend was the source.

    Seriously, is there anything bushies can’t fuck up.

  61. 61.

    kindness

    April 17, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    It would be inappropriate to speculate that the FBI has been interrogating Senator Rand Paul and has shipped him off to Guantanamo Bay for further interrogation over the Boston bombings. So I won’t.

    But I would not be upset if Rand Paul were to suddenly find himself in a cell at Guantanamo. Except to suggest they should have taken Senator Cruz with him as well.

  62. 62.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    April 17, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    Breaking News, Broken News, what’s the difference?

  63. 63.

    CorbinDallasMultipass

    April 17, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    @MomSense: I think the implication of that report is that because the AP leaked the report, the FBI is pissed because they think the bomb threat was called in by a sympathizer who wanted to disrupt the arrest/arraignment going on at the courthouse who wouldn’t have known without the leak. Or maybe there really is no arrest and a sympathizer called in with the false impression they were disrupting the arrest/arraignment.

    But that is just my super irresponsible speculation and who the fuck am i.

  64. 64.

    Villago Delenda Est

    April 17, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    FBI to Villager twits: STFU, assholes!

  65. 65.

    CorbinDallasMultipass

    April 17, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    @MomSense: more importantly – hope your friend is okay and safe, sounds like it.

  66. 66.

    reflectionephemeral

    April 17, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    @Trollhattan: From what I’ve heard, the Brigham & Women’s evacuation is apparently unrelated; a driver who locked his keys inside the car was helped by a valet parking attendant noticed there were gas cans inside the car, and alerted security.

    But, I’m now walking away from news sources. This frenzy for info NOW really doesn’t help, so I guess I can stop hitting refresh at Boston.com.

  67. 67.

    OmerosPeanut

    April 17, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    The first thing I thought on reading that twitter post was “Speaking truth to power.” But then I wondered: is that ever applicable when it’s the FBI speaking? If not, this time deserves to be the exception.

  68. 68.

    Scott S.

    April 17, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    @dmsilev: Republican outreach!

  69. 69.

    Punchy

    April 17, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    ETA. Evidently a suspicious car.

    You’ve got to be shitting me. What the hell is a “suspicious car”? Too much rust? Illegal u-turn? Driving by a guy with a beard?

    This is out of fucking control.

  70. 70.

    Suffern ACE

    April 17, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    @dmsilev: Yeah, but they give themselves away quickly when they order hummus instead of black beans and make their pernil out of lamb instead of pork.

  71. 71.

    Anoniminous

    April 17, 2013 at 3:46 pm

    Source telling BSNS* the bomber is a gay Negro Martian from Islamicabad Uzarabiastan.

    You hear it first on BSNS.

    —————————————————————————

    * Bullshit News Service

  72. 72.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    April 17, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    @ThatLeftTurnInABQ: The Daily Show’s tagline used to be; “When news breaks, we fix it”.

  73. 73.

    Villago Delenda Est

    April 17, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    @David Koch:

    Seriously, is there anything bushies can’t fuck up.

    One car funerals are outside their area of competence. Stupid fuckers fuck up fucking, they’re so fucked up.

  74. 74.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 17, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    Have the new squirrels been overwhelmed?

  75. 75.

    David Koch

    April 17, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    BREAKING NEWS

    CNN is reporting that the Supreme Court has overturned Obummercare!

    oh wait..

  76. 76.

    Schlemizel

    April 17, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    AMERICAN CABLE NEWS NETWORK!

    WE GET MISINFORMATION OUT TO YOU FIRST!

    Why wait for rumors, spin, lies and bullshit when we can dump that crap on you before them.

  77. 77.

    CorbinDallasMultipass

    April 17, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    @Anoniminous: Oh BSNS, always blaming Obama.

  78. 78.

    mclaren

    April 17, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    Oh, really. This is the same FBI that leaked all kinds of deliberately false allegations about Steven Hatfield, who was harassed and slandered and smeared by the FBI with countless leaks to the press to the point where he lost his job, his friends, his house, his life savings…?

    Hey, FBI assholes — what goes around, comes around. You deliberately leak false info about suspects to try to get ’em to confess, and you know what happens? Pretty soon, the press and the public get used to these kinds of “unofficial sources” claims, so everyone starts to believe anything that gets bruited about from “unofficial sources.”

    Hey, FBI assholes! Don’t like this kind of out-of-control paranoid rumor-mongering by the press? Then don’t fucking feed it with `unofficial sources’ leaks whenever you find it convenient to do so, you scumbag motherfuckers.

    I’m getting seriously sick and tired of the U.S. government doing things and then complaining and whining and whimpering and the American public starts doing the exact same things. Don’t like paranoia? Stop feeding it with this crazy post-9/11 police-state mentality?

    Want to conduct a sane rational forensic investigation of the latest terrorist bombing? Then stop treating terrorism as a military problem which requires America to kidnap foreigners and torture ’em, and demands that America invade other countries without evidence and without provocation, and necessitates sending American assassins all over the world to murder women and children, and requires that we use drones to murder thousands of innocent women and children in third world countries, all without any evidence or any criminal charges or any logical foundation other than fear and and out-of-control suspicion.

    If America (and the FBI) are serious about investigating these kinds of innocents as crimes, then America should treat these kinds of incidents as crimes. Shut down the post-9/11 paranoia factory, shutter the post-9/11 police state, end the DHS, and let the FBI investigate these kinds of crimes as crimes. When suspects are identified, arrest them, read them their rights, charge them and try them in a court of law. No kidnapping and shipping people to Gitmo for torture. No warrantless wiretapping. No sneak-and-peek warrants that violate the fourth amendment.

    You can’t have it both ways, people. If you want a reasonable sensible process of police investigation, you’ve got to have the rule of law. Courts. Trials. Charges. You’ve got the obey the constitution.

    If you want to make an end run around the constitution, then you can fucking forget about police investigations, because the whole thing will rapidly turn into a crazy witch hunt, with innocent people fingered as guilty, botched evidence, tortured confessions, and such a crappy case you can’t take it to trial because your “evidence” consists of crap like NSA warrantless wiretaps and statements from people kidnapped and sent to foreign countries for waterboarding.

  79. 79.

    beltane

    April 17, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    This site feels like it’s about to crash. I blame CNN.

  80. 80.

    MCA1

    April 17, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Can the FBI issue a similar note to the internet and all its denizens, asking us to stop sleuthing on our own and posting pictures of some guy with a backpack that may or may not have straps that look something like an object in a picture that supposedly was a police photo of a detonated bomb? Before we go all pitchforks on this guy and his name’s all over twitterdom after somone who totally knew that dude in high school, he was a total dick! puts it out there in public?

    Could be worded shortly enough: “Back the fuck off, amateurs. We have all the pictures, too.”

  81. 81.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    April 17, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    They don’t call it Breaking News because it works.

  82. 82.

    Jeremy

    April 17, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    @mclaren: Mclaren you need to take that up with Congress because they approved all of those things. Also DHS is not going anywhere because government agencies once created rarely never go away. Same thing happened in some European countries where they have heavy security after terrorist attacks.

  83. 83.

    schrodinger's cat

    April 17, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead: Breaking news is broken.

  84. 84.

    Gian

    April 17, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    If they have a good photo and have refrained from releasing the suspect photo I surmise they don’t need to ask for the public to help them figure out just who is in the picture . Yet. So they have leads. If the bombs were triggered by cell phone and the phone companies can source the phone based on time and rough triangulation of the signal even if it was cash prepaid i bet they can find the store it came from and when sold.

  85. 85.

    Mike E

    April 17, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    Tunch is sitting on teh cable again.

  86. 86.

    RareSanity

    April 17, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Cole’s post “Something Else to Think About” is in the top five on the front page of reddit.

    Expect some tough sledding for the next hour or two.

  87. 87.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    April 17, 2013 at 4:31 pm

    Until I hear otherwise, I’m of the opinion that Dick Cheney is behind the Boston Massacrethon. I just can’t imagine any one else having that capacity for evil.

  88. 88.

    CorbinDallasMultipass

    April 17, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    I think the site is slow because of this: http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1cjkno/on_the_boston_bombings_im_safe_you_are_safe/

  89. 89.

    PeakVT

    April 17, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    CNN: All the news that fits in the puke funnel.

  90. 90.

    nellcote

    April 17, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    @Punchy:

    You’ve got to be shitting me. What the hell is a “suspicious car”?

    Gas cans in the back seat of a car parked in the hospital parking lot.

  91. 91.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    April 17, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    Every time we update this piece of shit blog, it gets worse. John, can we just go back to the AOL forums where it all started, when me and you and your mom would play word games and laugh about the Pirates while you brushed kitty?

  92. 92.

    smintheus

    April 17, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    Lo Giurato is rather an ironic name under the circumstances.

  93. 93.

    patroclus

    April 17, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    @Jeremy: Yeah, I just went down to the Works Progress Administration to check on my Reconstruction Finance Corporation loan which was for a Civilian Conservation Corps project in conjunction with a National Youth Administration grant because my AFDC payment was too low and instead I got confused and went to the Interstate Commerce Commission/Civil Aeronautics Board building which was temporarily being used by the Public Works Commission and the Resolution Trust Corporation because the Federal Home Loan Bank Board had moved to the Office of Thrift Supervision building. Good point!

  94. 94.

    gnomedad

    April 17, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    Andy Borowitz:
    “Authorities who have spent the past forty-eight hours combing CNN in the hopes of finding any information whatsoever have called off their search, they confirmed today.”

  95. 95.

    MomSense

    April 17, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    @CorbinDallasMultipass:

    He is going home to be with new mommy and new baby. :)

  96. 96.

    Zapruder F. Mashtots, D.D.S. (Mumphrey, et al.)

    April 17, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    This is a tangent, but it happened in our host’s own state, so I thought it was worth bringing up:
    http://www.wvgazette.com/News/201304110229
    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04/17/1883121/west-virginia-abstinence-assembly/?mobile=nc
    I don’t know why, but the link thingy isn’t working; that’s why I copied in the links.

  97. 97.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    April 17, 2013 at 4:56 pm

    @patroclus: Pictures or it didn’t happen.

  98. 98.

    David Koch

    April 17, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    Background checks defeated in senate.

    online progressive always say you can pass any legislation if you use the Bully Pulpit.

    Obama used the bully pulpit and 90% of the country supported him and it still lost.

    Well, what are you going to say now about the mystical Bully Pulpit?

  99. 99.

    mclaren

    April 17, 2013 at 5:19 pm

    @Jeremy:

    The classic fallacy of the cherry-picked argument. Show me the evidence that congress ever required the FBI to conduct its investigations by unofficially leaking rumors to the press in order to pressure suspects.

    Steven Hatfill. Richard Jewell. Wen Ho Lee. The list goes on…and on…and on.

    Congress has nothing to do with the irresponsible grossly illegal behavior of the FBI in leaking “unofficial sources” whenever it’s to the FBI’s perceived advantage to do so.

    If the FBI doesn’t like a firestorm of out-of-control rumors in the press, then the FBI can damn well stop its grossly illegal practice of leaking rumors from “unofficial sources” whenever it feels like it.

    I have zero sympathy the FBI. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind, assholes.

  100. 100.

    nellcote

    April 17, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    Butthurtness from anonymous teevee exec to Politico:

    “While it’s a shame that credible “old media” organizations can blow something as big as this, it’s equally a shame that the twitterverse, blogosphere, etc, feels the need to dance on their graves.

    The snark on Twitter has reached new heights… it’s not about getting to the truth or serving the public good, it’s about who can make the wittiest joke to impress their friends. This is an important story for the nation, and reporters from organizations new and old are trying to cover it. People make mistakes.

    But, the Fourth Estate, flawed though it is, was set-up to be a watchdog for the Republic. Is there now a Fifth Estate — the social media universe that purports to be keeping an eye on the Fourth estate but really is just looking out for themselves?”

  101. 101.

    PeakVT

    April 17, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    Someone, please put the hamsters back on the treadmill.

  102. 102.

    askew

    April 17, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    @David Koch:

    They’ll say his chained-CPI was such a betrayal to progressive ideals that the base of the party abandoned Obama and he didn’t have the support to get background checks done. For emoprogs, there is always a way to blame Obama 100% for the rest of government’s failure.

  103. 103.

    jl

    April 17, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    @nellcote:

    ‘ While it’s a shame that credible “old media” organizations can blow something as big as this ‘

    How has CNN ever been an old media organization, with or without scare quotes?

    And nowadays, is CNN even an organization? Not that I can see, other than the marketing department and deranged exec suits spinning it desperately this way and that?

  104. 104.

    Dolly Llama

    April 17, 2013 at 5:41 pm

    Wanted to try and post something before the site collapses. Talk to you all whenever I see you again.

  105. 105.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    April 17, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    @David Koch: Listening to an amazing use of the Mystic Pulpit right now.

    Ouch.

  106. 106.

    dance around in your bones

    April 17, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    Three times since the server upgrade the site has gone down and now it is as slow as molasses. I are confused. {{{obligatory bitchfest}}}

  107. 107.

    dance around in your bones

    April 17, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    Three times since the server upgrade the site has gone down and now it is as slow as molasses. I are confused. {{{obligatory bitchfest}}}

    eta: then I got a timeout. WTF? over.

  108. 108.

    Eric U.

    April 17, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    @RareSanity: link to that post is now 2nd or reddit front page. Doomed, we’re doomed

  109. 109.

    Trollhattan

    April 17, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    @dance around in your bones:

    A prophecy fulfilled; for it is written in the Book of Tunch:

    “Verily I say unto thee, that this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me [service] thrice.”

  110. 110.

    David Koch

    April 17, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    @Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism: right. and all power of his statements and the mystic bully pulpit makes the high information voter feel good, and for some, it even creates a tingle moving up their leg, but in the end it’s empty for it doesn’t translate into results not even when watered-down bipartisan bills are involved.

  111. 111.

    Trollhattan

    April 17, 2013 at 6:05 pm

    America’s Finest News Source crowd-sourced whether they should take their clear shot at the Boston bomber. Based on the voting outcome, they would now like to apologize for killing “innocent Boston man Tom Mahoney.”

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/breaking-the-onion-in-kill-range-of-boston-bomber,32087/

    Out-CNNing CNN since 1898.

  112. 112.

    Morzer

    April 17, 2013 at 6:05 pm

    @dmsilev:

    I think it’s safe to say that Texas turns bluer as Gohmert turns redder.

  113. 113.

    beltane

    April 17, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    @David Koch: It does make a difference if we look at this defeat as the beginning of a larger war. If this is it, and we sit around waiting for the next inevitable massacre, then yeah, it was all for nothing.

  114. 114.

    JPL

    April 17, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    CNN is saying that a man with a gun was arrested on Capitol grounds this afternoon. really

  115. 115.

    Trollhattan

    April 17, 2013 at 6:25 pm

    Evidently, Gabby Giffords owes Glenn Reynolds an apology. Because she’s a bully. Really.

    http://wonkette.com/512496/instapundit-tells-whats-her-name-that-lady-who-got-shot-in-the-face-to-stop-bullying-people#more-512496

  116. 116.

    Schlemizel

    April 17, 2013 at 6:25 pm

    @Eric U.:

    Quick! Get over there & down vote the damn post so we can have our juice back

  117. 117.

    Comrade Luke

    April 17, 2013 at 6:26 pm

    Harry Reid voted against background checks.

    Classic.

  118. 118.

    pat

    April 17, 2013 at 6:28 pm

    Harry Reid switched his vote to NO so it can be brought up again. Don’t ask me how this works, but that’s what I read somewhere.

  119. 119.

    Groucho48

    April 17, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    @David Koch:

    I made that point a week or so ago in a thread on gun control stuff. Someone else commented that the Obama-blamers will still find a way to put it all on Obama. Sure enough. USA Today:

    http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/free/20130417obama-gun-control-weight-office.html

    Basically,the article is…well, yeah, Obama used the bully pulpit, but, he let Biden do the heavy lifting in Congress. We can only speculate what would have happened if he had personally intervened.

  120. 120.

    MikeJ

    April 17, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    @JPL: CNN says lots of things. Why would anybody listen to them?

  121. 121.

    Sly

    April 17, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    @Comrade Luke:
    Procedural move so the bill can be brought up later in the calendar.

  122. 122.

    Comrade Luke

    April 17, 2013 at 6:33 pm

    Three Rs voted for, including the co-author of the bill.

    Bipartisanship!

  123. 123.

    Baud

    April 17, 2013 at 6:33 pm

    Hi Reddit!

  124. 124.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    April 17, 2013 at 6:37 pm

    @David Koch: For once, the speech was scheduled to interrupt the evening news.

    OTOH, the local news reported that the bill was defeated by a majority of the Senate voting against it and had a handy quote by Burr *hackspit*

  125. 125.

    PeakVT

    April 17, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    @Comrade Luke: That’s most likely due to Senate procedures. If the Majority Leader votes against a bill, he retains the right to re-animate it at some point in the future.

  126. 126.

    MaryJane

    April 17, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    Heidi Heitkamp wont’ even be up for re-election til 2018.
    She’s a cowardly cunt.

  127. 127.

    Tonal Crow

    April 17, 2013 at 6:51 pm

    Of this phenomenon, Bobo says:

    The breakdown of bipartisan comity in Washington has enabled media on both sides of the political spectrum to engage in conspiracy mongering. From the liberal media’s fixation on “proving” that George W. Bush “lied” us into Iraq, that guns autonomously kill people, and that abortion is a “right”, to conservative outlets’ proclaiming that Pres. Clinton murdered Vince Foster, that breakdown has had serious consequences.

  128. 128.

    dance around in your bones

    April 17, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    @Trollhattan:

    A prophecy fulfilled; for it is written in the Book of Tunch:

    “Verily I say unto thee, that this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me [service] thrice.”

    Heh, funny. Would 30 pieces of silver solve it? Oh wait, that was before those words were spoken.

    But really, hasn’t the site gone wonky a bit since the server upgrade? I shudder to think what the site upgrade will do. Bet the cool little striped pants guy with the cane and megaphone will be nowhere to be seen, anyway.

    :::sobs:::

  129. 129.

    danimal

    April 17, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    I used to like and respect CNN.

    Now I flip past Piers Morgan like he is a carrier of a deadly disease.

    What a shame.

  130. 130.

    mdblanche

    April 17, 2013 at 6:54 pm

    @Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism: I’m so fucking angry at Republicans right now that at first I was pissed to hear the President thank Toomey. Then I remembered there was nothing he could have said that would’ve hurt Toomey more.

  131. 131.

    Tonal Crow

    April 17, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    Aaaaand in today’s installment of “if we outlaw guns, people’ll just kill each other with hubcaps”:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/suburbs/des_plaines/chi-retired-cop-drops-gun-shoots-self-at-des-plaines-school-20130416,0,6741199.story

    A retired police officer accidentally hubcapped himself when he dropped his 1957 Rocketship Chevy hubcap inside a Des Plaines, Ill., school while attending his grandson’s Boy Scout troop meeting. The man was carrying his licensed, loaded hubcap inside a fanny pack Monday evening at Iroquois School, and when he dropped the pack the hubcap went off and a hubcap projectile struck him in the leg. The man was hospitalized. Police did not file charges because no laws were broken. “Of course, the district does not condone bringing hubcaps on school grounds,” said the school’s principal, Michael Amadei.

  132. 132.

    Roger Moore

    April 17, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    @pat:

    Harry Reid switched his vote to NO so it can be brought up again. Don’t ask me how this works, but that’s what I read somewhere.

    AFAIK, only somebody who voted for the winning side of a measure can move to reconsider it later. This is a reasonable parliamentary rule intended to prevent opponents of a bill from endlessly demanding it be reconsidered as a stalling tactic. In practice, though, Senators can change their votes after the outcome is clear, so somebody who wants to bring it up later after it’s been voted down can change from yes to no, be on the winning side, and keep the right to move to reconsider.

  133. 133.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 17, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    @Comrade Luke: Procedural thing. It allows him to bring it back to the floor later. Weird Senate rules thing.

  134. 134.

    lojasmo

    April 17, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    @Another Halocene Human:

    So, you think Corner Stone did this?

  135. 135.

    Suffern ACE

    April 17, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    @Tonal Crow: wow. It’s as if the conservatives stopped conspiracy weaving 20 years ago.

  136. 136.

    David Koch

    April 17, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    @Groucho48: that’s the Beltway media version of the Bully Pulpit. Their retarded version is if Obummer only had Inhofe over for a super bowl party and a barbeque, he’d vote for climate change legislation.

  137. 137.

    Tonal Crow

    April 17, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    @Suffern ACE:

    @Tonal Crow: wow. It’s as if the conservatives stopped conspiracy weaving 20 years ago.

    I see that my Bobo trolling is well-tuned, but needs some updating. I made up that load of GOP on the fly.

  138. 138.

    Full Metal Wingnut

    April 17, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    @Kay: Mob justice is not justice. When bad things happen we’re often thirsty for blood, but Richard Jewelling/central park fiving people is immoral and unforgivable.

  139. 139.

    gelfling545

    April 17, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    @ThatLeftTurnInABQ: I guess it the news isn’t breaking they feel the need to break it (practically beyond repair) themselves.

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