Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Putin must be throwing ketchup at the walls.

It’s time for the GOP to dust off that post-2012 autopsy, completely ignore it, and light the party on fire again.

Something needs to be done about our bogus SCOTUS.

Everybody saw this coming.

We cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation.

Wow, I can’t imagine what it was like to comment in morse code.

The republican caucus is already covering themselves with something, and it’s not glory.

A sufficient plurality of insane, greedy people can tank any democratic system ever devised, apparently.

We still have time to mess this up!

🎶 Those boots were made for mockin’ 🎵

We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

Let’s not be the monsters we hate.

Tick tock motherfuckers!

Come on, man.

A Senator Walker would be an insult to the state and the nation.

In my day, never was longer.

Motto for the House: Flip 5 and lose none.

John Fetterman: Too Manly for Pennsylvania.  Paid for by the Oz for Senator campaign.

A Senator Walker would also be an insult to reason, rationality, and decency.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

Authoritarian republicans are opposed to freedom for the rest of us.

I really should read my own blog.

Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?

They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.

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  4. 4.

    dmsilev

    Also via Buzzfeed, this is hilarious and quintessentially Bostonian:

    “At the direction of authorities, select Dunkin’ Donuts restaurants in the Boston area are open to take care of the needs of law enforcement and first responders.”

  6. 6.

    Another Halocene Human

    Kendall, looking towards Copley.

    @dmsilev: lol, and I do remember seeing a lot of EMTs at DD’s

    It occurs to me that the FBI was absolutely right about them being armed and dangerous.

  7. 7.

    sonofsamantha

    This cracked me up.

    “At the direction of authorities, select Dunkin’ Donuts restaurants in the Boston area are open to take care of the needs of law enforcement and first responders.”

  12. 12.

    KG

    @Alexandra: in defense of Sullivan, the title for the post about a religious war is a quote from the video in that post, from the suspect(s)… not a pronouncement about what is happening by Sullivan.

  13. 13.

    Another Halocene Human

    A 19yo on food eludes officers in a dense residential neighborhood. The kid could be anywhere. I hope they’re not as dumb as cops here, who kept driving past this fugitive who was cowering in the back of a bus shelter. (The bus drivers all saw him.) They were beating bushes only a few feet away.

    I wonder if they can use IR in the daytime. Or if they’re trying to use tactics to keep him in one place so they can search more meticulously.

    Took a while for the (other) cops to find Dorner when he was right under their nose.

  14. 14.

    Another Halocene Human

    @dmsilev: Fuck. Yes. Exactly.

    Probably thinking about Kendall because of the shooting by there.

    Not even the same line.

    I need coffee.

    I need to stop thinking about this.

  15. 15.

    dmsilev

    @shortstop: The crowning touch was ‘at the direction of authorities’. Someone high up in the chain of command said ‘close things down, but make sure a few Dunkin Donuts keep going; our folks need their coffee and pastries’.

    (Mind you, it was probably the right decision to make)

  17. 17.

    celticdragonchick

    @KG:

    To be sure, if one half of the combatants consider the war to be religious in nature, you do kinda end up having a religious war even if the other side couldn’t give a shit about religious animosities.

  18. 18.

    celticdragonchick

    @Another Halocene Human:

    He may be in a good bolt-hole, but he will be shot deader then the proverbial doornail as soon as he leaves it, which he will have to do sooner or later. When Dorner was flushed out of the house, he was finished. Just as inevitable as atomic decay.

  19. 19.

    Another Halocene Human

    What’s going to happen to the Uighurs in China when word spreads that a Chinese national was killed by Chechens?

  20. 20.

    Betty Cracker

    @Another Halocene Human: I haven’t laid eyes on Boston since the horrid winters drove me back home to Florida 20 years ago, but it looks exactly the same. That’s one thing I liked about Boston. If you leave a town in Florida for a week, new buildings mushroom in empty lots seemingly overnight, and if you’re gone for a few years, you might not recognize the place. Boston seems a lot more permanent.

  22. 22.

    maurinsky

    My daughter is in Allston, she said she is feeling a little stressed out and confined, and she’s worried that they won’t catch the guy, and then what?

  23. 23.

    Morzer

    @KG:

    Yes, but Sullivan chose to use that particular quote for his headline – and, of course, when he’s done his bit to whip up some hysteria and anti-Muslim sentiment he’ll emerge looking puzzled and insisting that his lily-white hands are cleaner than those of the ‘real’ crazies like Malkin and Geller.

  24. 24.

    Alexandra

    @KG:

    Thanks for the clarification. It seems odd, though, that he didn’t wrap it in quote marks… and to be fair, a few people have already taken him to task on the same statement, which he’s now published.

  25. 25.

    ? Martin

    @Another Halocene Human:

    Took a while for the (other) cops to find Dorner when he was right under their nose.

    It’s easy to hunker down for 12-24 hours and wait out authorities. After that, you need food and water, and your bodily waste will give you away if you don’t deal with it properly. In time, you have to move, and that’s when they’ll get him. As they did with Dorner.

    The challenge will be when police have to let the public move for the same reasons. I’d expect a massive network of hard checkpoints around the area if they don’t get him before nightfall. By tomorrow they’re going to have to let people out for groceries, medical needs, work, and so on.

  26. 26.

    Another Halocene Human

    @Betty Cracker: Seems would be the word. Half the town burned down in the 19th century and it was totally remodeled.

    I have seen plenty of buildings mushroom that weren’t there when I was young. Lots of green spaces that made life nice gobbled up by the lure of quick money in a time of high RE prices.

    There are block after block in Jackson Sq, Hyde Park, etc that need renewal, but they’re still gobbling up greenspace in the ‘burbs last I saw. I guess they don’t care b/c water comes from the Quabbin now.

  27. 27.

    Gin & Tonic

    @dmsilev: Here in New England, it would take a lot more than terrorism and street warfare to close down Dunkin Donuts. I’m not sure nuclear war would be enough.

  28. 28.

    sonofsamantha

    Ok BJ bloggers. You now have an opportunity to cowboy up and actually do something useful for a change.

    There are 2 terrorist events going on at the same time. One is a white 40ish male from mississippi and the others are muslims.

    Now is your chance to talk about how Fuxs noise is handling the 2 different.
    http://imgur.com//vp2NcCa

  31. 31.

    Morzer

    @Gin & Tonic:

    I still haven’t forgiven the bastards for taking the Double Chocolate off the menu. They were the only ones my wife liked and now I can’t eat Boston Kreme out of solidarity with her.

  32. 32.

    Another Halocene Human

    @sonofsamantha: One has been caught and didn’t succeed at killing anyone; the other is at large and killed a 26yo MIT cop last night and sent another cop to the hospital. Fuck off.

  33. 33.

    AndoChronic

    Would anyone care to estimate the dollars lost by this shutdown? This is why I don’t agree with the death penalty. If the suspect is found guilty I would either like him turned over to the victims’ families or forced to work off the massive tab he/they have tallied up. I know this doesn’t sound very humanist or liberal, but I want a couple of pounds of flesh off this guy for this one!

  35. 35.

    Ben Franklin

    @Another Halocene Human:

    He won’t be taken alive.

    Let me see if I have this; They don’t know about facial recognition or security cameras. They don’t respond to their mugs being on TV until late last night. They had no escape plan and no money for same, but decide to take a low profile and leave the blast zone quietly while they rob a 7-11.

    ‘Natch

  37. 37.

    raven

    @Napoleon: We had a prof go nuts here. Killed his wife and two other guys at a community theater picnic. He vanished and people were freaked for days. The tracker dogs finally found him where he had dug a hole, covered it with leaves and shot himself.

  38. 38.

    ? Martin

    You guys are killing me. It’s been 15 years since I’ve seen a Dunkin Donuts. SoCal has shit for donuts.

  39. 39.

    Morzer

    @AndoChronic:

    Short of him founding Jihadi Apple and selling us all JihadIphones I don’t see him coming close to repaying the cost of the lockdown.

  44. 44.

    Mary G

    I feel like a bad person, because I missed all the excitement. I’ve been working hard on a big project for a thrift shop I volunteer for and I was exhausted. I went to bed with a Dominos pizza (yes, also horrifying and not a habit, first time ever was a week ago) at 8:30 p.m. West Coast time. Woke up at 2:47 a.m. to uneaten pizza and read AL’s open thread and a couple other things online while scarfing several slices. Looked for the TV remote for a few minutes then fell back asleep for another eight hours. Now the bed is made but I’m lying on it again with a cat curled up at my back.

  45. 45.

    Napoleon

    @raven:

    I didn’t mention something like that but, yeah even if he wasn’t hit (or was an not seriously) I could see there being a pretty good chance he killed himself knowing that one way or another his life as already ended. So may shots were being fired last night no one would have noticed one more.

  46. 46.

    Another Halocene Human

    I’m beginning to understand the hatred for Katherine Ann Powers. I’ve always had contempt for both her and the pervasive white privilege that allowed her the option of running away, changing her name, raising a family, and then, eventually, turning herself in at a time and place of her own choosing.

    But I could never grasp the hatred. Until now.

    (Powers was a Brandeis student who was involved in an armed bank robbery to fund the left-wing insurgency who shot and killed a cop near Cleveland Circle. The Boston Globe later gave her a column which she wrote from her cell inside MCI Women’s Framingham, IIRC.)

  48. 48.

    elmo

    @Todd:

    Oh, and this is the weekend my new puppy is getting born.

    This is an Open Thread, after all, and this is what I want to talk about. What kind of pup? How did you select the breeder? Tell us!

    Puppies are universally and without exception good. If there were ever anything that could make me believe in a benevolent deity, it’s the special bond between humans and dogs. Puppies are my preferred antidote to sadness, frustration, grief, and anger.

    In short: THRED NEEDS MOAR PUPPEHZ!

  51. 51.

    scav

    Brief pause for half good news. still good, but a half measure. Boy Scouts Move to Lift Ban on Gay Members that is to say for boys, not adult leaders. Proposed Resolution seems to cutting it fine, pro universal celibacy but saying scouting shouldn’t be used to advance any political or social agenda. Don’t know enough to really evaluate, beyond the random thought they had a shortage of leader (didn’t they?) so solving that might eventually push them over that final remaining step. Don’t know much about Scouting but figured mental breaks and breaks in cloud are required.

  52. 52.

    shortstop

    @? Martin: Ha! Remember this next time you wave your weather in our sad little faces!

    Forgive me. I am so freaking sick of The Winter That Would Not Leave.

  53. 53.

    Suffern ACE

    @Ben Franklin: Yeah, pretty much. The only attempt they seemed to have made to slip away secretly to avoid capture is waiting until it was after dark.

  54. 54.

    Another Halocene Human

    @? Martin: DD’s is shit for donuts now. They bake them at a central facility and ship them to the stores. Good fucking luck finding a DD’s left that makes hand cut donuts.

    There was one in Worcester but they had a fire and put in a donut machine in the remodel.

  55. 55.

    Morzer

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Don’t they have Bavarian creme as a topping for something else? After all, it’s not like I habitually press my nose to the window and think what might have been if they’d only kept the Double Chocolate on the menu.

  59. 59.

    the Conster

    “Boston is the only town where when you mess with them, they shut it down & go door to door looking for you” #manhunt

  61. 61.

    dmsilev

    @shortstop:

    Forgive me. I am so freaking sick of The Winter That Would Not Leave.

    I went out to get lunch an hour or so ago, and had to brush ice pellets off my jacket as I came back inside. There should be a law against that sort of thing happening in mid-April.

    At least there’s no flooding in my neighborhood unlike other parts of the city.

  62. 62.

    Trollhattan

    @AndoChronic:

    Almost a generation ago, Ted Kaczynski had a similar impact, albeit manifested in response-spasms spread across several years. I still curse the day they took away the local airport curbside parking following one of his threat-rambles. Fucker.

  63. 63.

    Violet

    Talked to my friend in Cambridge who is fine. Slept through the whole thing last night. Was going to sleep in this morning because he has the day off and instead was woken by the Cambridge emergency services phone call at 6:30 a.mm. telling everyone not to go outside.

  64. 64.

    Ruckus

    @Betty Cracker:
    Relatives lived in Roxbury in the 70s and I went back in the 90s. Completely changed. If I had been dropped blindfolded there I would have thought I was in a different city. I should say changed upscale, although in the 70s the neighbors were extremely nice.

  65. 65.

    Gin & Tonic

    @the Conster: Somebody on teevee the other day: “Boston cares about three things – politics, sports and revenge.”

    I’d add that often you get more than one at the same time.

  67. 67.

    dmsilev

    @the Conster: The bombers messed with the Marathon and killed a cop. For the trifecta, I’m expecting to learn that they stole the Make Way for Ducklings statue out of the Public Gardens.

  69. 69.

    Trollhattan

    @dmsilev:

    This forecast is sure to make you feel better:

    Today Sunny, with a high near 82. Light and variable wind becoming west 5 to 7 mph in the morning.

    Saturday Sunny, with a high near 81. North northwest wind 9 to 16 mph, with gusts as high as 21 mph.

    Sunday Sunny, with a high near 84. Light and variable wind becoming north northwest 5 to 10 mph in the afternoon.

    Monday Sunny, with a high near 86.

    Tuesday Sunny, with a high near 86.

    Wednesday Sunny, with a high near 86.

    Thursday Sunny, with a high near 85

    See, winter’s long over! You’re welcome.

  70. 70.

    Morzer

    @shortstop:

    I am just sitting here in Somerville trying not to get wretchedly depressed by the events of the day, combined with my diet. I am on the 5:2 diet and today is one of the two days on which I get 600 calories to eat all day. It works, but it isn’t exactly a mood enhancer.

    And SOME PEOPLE who are EVIL and VICIOUS keep talking about BLOODY MOTHERFUCKING DONUTS. And PIZZA. Domino’s PIZZA, admittedly, but still PIZZA.

    But I am good, thinking peaceful thoughts, not eyeing the chainsaw fondly, not thinking of the BRUTAL VENGEANCE their RABID GLUTTONY merits. Not even tracking them down on the internet for later slaughter.

    Peaceful thoughts, small chirping birds in a garlic.. no, no, happy thoughts, happy thoughts.

    And now the inhuman brutes are going on about Bavarian cream … why me? Why today? Why creamy Bavarians?

  71. 71.

    Mo

    If anyone needs a pick me up, google “armed robbery Dunkin Donuts.”

    As to the cost of the shutdown, this is actually the second one this year. The first one was for the blizzard. My sense is that people scream about the cost, but people eventually buy the groceries and whatnot they would have that day and all of the work that would have gotten done does. Pretending that the economic activity of a given day never happens if everyone stays home for a day isn’t a valid model.

  73. 73.

    Betty Cracker

    @? Martin: You don’t have DD in Cali? How about Krispy Kreme? In my opinion, Krispy Kreme is far superior to DD anyway. Hubby and I argue about this all the time. He prefers DD but actually pines for Tim Hortons doughnut shop.

  74. 74.

    The Moar You Know

    Brief pause for half good news. still good, but a half measure. Boy Scouts Move to Lift Ban on Gay Members that is to say for boys, not adult leaders.

    @scav: More than half. I expected them to dig in their heels and give the queers the same treatment they have no problem dishing out to atheists. That sure didn’t hurt them any.

    So I was more than surprised to see the cave, and make no mistake, this is a 100% cave. The leaders aspect will go quietly within a year.

  75. 75.

    Violet

    @dmsilev: I think we’re going to set a record low temperature tonight. That’s very unusual at all these days (setting a record low temp), but particularly for April.

  77. 77.

    Morzer

    @Betty Cracker:

    Just remember when I rob the local donut factory and abscond in the general direction of Canada and the strategic maple reserve, you people made me do it.

  78. 78.

    Svensker

    @? Martin:

    It’s been 15 years since I’ve seen a Dunkin Donuts. SoCal has shit for donuts.

    That’s OK cuz Dunkin Donuts is shit for donuts, too.

    ***ducks***

  79. 79.

    karen

    Just because the suspects are Muslim does NOT make it a religious war.

    Until we know what the motives are, religion should not be in this.

    Saying it’s a religious war just because they’re Muslim is the same thing as saying that just because suspects are:

    Jewish
    Catholic
    Protestant

    that makes it a religious war.

    It may turn out that this is a religious war. But until we know for sure, we shouldn’t speculate.

    Not that it will make a difference to the pundits, talking heads and various scumbags.

  81. 81.

    TooManyJens

    @Violet: I just want it to warm up so I can get the fucking palm tree out of my kitchen and put it outside again. Damn thing takes up way too much space. It was snowing here earlier, ffs.

  83. 83.

    Ben Franklin

    @TooManyJens:

    So, you are totally ok with the logic of this? They planned their escapade, but wanted to die in a firefight? Nevermind one escaped…it’s so he can plot revenge, then die?

    Alrighty then.

  86. 86.

    PurpleGirl

    @Betty Cracker: I’m having a similar feeling about NYC now. I go somewhere and suddenly there is new building and I can’t remember what was there before. Not so much green space within the City but parking lots or RE lots that were empty now have buildings going up. I’m not sure I like it.

    Morzer: Re DD: I’ve been mad at them since I found they don’t have apple cinnamon anymore.

  92. 92.

    Mnemosyne

    @dmsilev:

    At least there’s no flooding in my neighborhood unlike other parts of the city.

    My mother-in-law is in Oak Park and she says they have a foot of black water in their basement.

    Hopefully G put the family pictures on a high enough shelf when we were there last summer.

  93. 93.

    AndoChronic

    @Violet:

    Just shoveled seven inches off the drive and walk here in Mpls.! Plus, after just returning from San Juan,… still drinking rum and pineapple juice though!

  96. 96.

    shortstop

    @Trollhattan: You used to be one of my favorite people here.

    @Morzer: Ah. Well, now I’m sorry I insensitively said you were on a roll. You’re on a piece of stale hardtack, nothing you’d covet, no way, baby.

  97. 97.

    Ben Franklin

    @TooManyJens:

    Alex Jones

    Response failure. What is it a fear of peers who might cut you out of the clique?

    Or do you have a greater fear of expressing the thought you harbor.

  98. 98.

    Trollhattan

    @Betty Cracker:

    No DD in my corner of Calif and while we had a Krispy Kreme infestation for awhile, they’ve all since disappeared. Their schtick (oops, I mean secret for success) seemed to be taking them out of the fryer too soon, so as to still be kinda raw in the middle. This may appeal to folks who like eating raw cookie dough (mmm, cold, grainy starch!) but I found them gag-inducing.

  99. 99.

    Rosalita

    as far as I know, DD’s Boston Creme donut has chocolate icing, the Bavarian creme’s are covered in powdered sugar.

  100. 100.

    handsmile

    @Betty Cracker:

    Agree with AHH (#54) and Svensker (#78) that Dunkin is “shit for donuts,” but I had never actually eaten a fried turd until I sampled what Tim Horton’s was peddling.

  101. 101.

    dmsilev

    The Onion takes another swing at the CNN-pinata:

    BOSTON—In the midst of a widespread manhunt that has put the city of Boston on lockdown, CNN released a series of photographs today depicting the three obese Mexican women it claims are the chief suspects in the Boston Marathon attack. “My top-level sources have confirmed that the individuals depicted in these photos planned, coordinated, and put into effect this week’s deadly bombing,” said CNN reporter John King, speaking of the trio of overweight hispanic women, two of whom reportedly died in the late 1990s and one of whom has never actually visited the United States. “If you come across the suspects, please be careful. My sources tell me these women are armed and highly dangerous.” At press time, everyone at CNN was congratulating one another on the good job they’ve been doing

  103. 103.

    Morzer

    @Violet:

    I feel almost guilty for rolling around on the floor laughing until the tears flowed. My wife thinks I’ve finally gone mad and has helpfully suggested a bacon sandwich.

  107. 107.

    maurinsky

    Dunkin Donuts motivates me to get my ass to work when the weather is horrific here. No matter how bad it is, I tell myself “someone is already making coffee at Dunkin Donuts, so I think you can make it to work.”

  108. 108.

    Mnemosyne

    @Ben Franklin:

    They planned their escapade, but wanted to die in a firefight?

    And then punked out when being shot at in real life turned out to be nothing like a video game. Happens all the time.

  111. 111.

    Trollhattan

    @shortstop:
    Do you know my family says the Same Thing!? Am sure in just a ko-inki-dink.

    Also, too, feel free to return any mockery when it hits triple-digits here a month-and-a-half too soon. Summer is going to kick our arses this year and half the state will end up on fire.

  112. 112.

    PurpleGirl

    @elmo: I’ve been watching a kitten cam of a cat and her kittens being fostered and socialized for adoption. Tomorrow is an adoption event in WA and these kittens will be going to forever homes. I find it a great antidote to the madness of the world.

    http://new.livestream.com/accounts/398160/events/1919119

    A agree that puppehs are also good. Our animal companions are do good for us.

  113. 113.

    TooManyJens

    @Mnemosyne: I have to wonder about the mind that looks at these two scenarios:

    a) a 19-year-old stoner and a 26-year-old described by his own uncle as a “loser” are bad at thinking things through; or

    b) some kind of massive conspiracy or cover-up

    and thinks a) is the one that’s just too hard to believe.

  115. 115.

    scav

    @The Moar You Know: Hurrah, I’ll take the other half of that glass then. Also got a needed chortle out of this sentence from the Guard, although I think I know what they mean.

    The deliberations over whether to admit openly gay and lesbian members to the Boy Scouts . . .

    Izzard!

  116. 116.

    Hill Dweller

    In what I’m sure is just a coincidence, Darrell Issa has excreted a handful of tweets about Benghazi in the last hour.

  117. 117.

    Morzer

    @shortstop:

    You know, I tried to live a decent life. I didn’t even covet my neighbor’s ass.

    (Not admittedly difficult, because he’s got one huge, pasty wing-nut ass…)

    But I digress. What makes it worse is that I can see the local Dunkin from my house (it doesn’t look much like Russia, sadly) and we have marvellous, wonderful beautiful, warm, hot, meat-covered pizza readily available from the noble civic benefactors on the corner opposite us.

  118. 118.

    Trollhattan

    @Mnemosyne:

    Am trying hard not to get into these dudes’ heads, since I know so little and I can’t relate to murderers in any case. I’ll pass on this recent BBC tidbit.

    NBC News and AP report Tamerlan Tsarnaev travelled to Russia last year through New York and stayed there six months. There is no record of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev leaving the country.

    Hopefully, there will be some inquiry on what occurred during that visit.

  119. 119.

    Geoduck

    @The Moar You Know:

    More than half. I expected them to dig in their heels and give the queers the same treatment they have no problem dishing out to atheists. That sure didn’t hurt them any.

    I have no hard data, but I suspect that gay people draw a lot fewer negative reactions from the general population than atheists.

  120. 120.

    Violet

    @Morzer: It’s a thing of beauty, that dildo on the fridge. Good job, BBC! At least laughing takes your mind off the food items.

  125. 125.

    Morzer

    @Violet:

    STOP MENTIONING FOOD!!! I am warning you, I’ve got a loaded fridge (without dildo) and I am not afraid to use it!

  128. 128.

    patroclus

    I’ve been looking for information about a guy named Dzhokhar Tsarnaev – anybody know anything about him or where his current location might be??

    Please be precise. Thanks!

  129. 129.

    shortstop

    @TooManyJens: Your nativity is showing, as Ben would say. Or maybe he’d say you’re too gullied. He might even believe you have blondies on.

    @scav: Now that is joyous tidings in a bad-news week.

  130. 130.

    Ben Franklin

    @TooManyJens:

    b) some kind of massive conspiracy or cover-up

    History escapes you, but I understand your reluctance to review. I’m asking questions you would rather not peruse, Tinker Bell.

  132. 132.

    Elizabelle

    @Morzer:

    So what will you eat today?

    I am thinking poached salmon and a lovely, leafy green salad with lots of veggies, if that helps you. And fancy bottled Euro-sparkling water with fresh orange or lime in it.

    Maybe even some sauteed mushrooms with a smidge of olive oil.

    (I’m kind of fascinated with the 5:2; there are days when I would not eat (much) but for social cues. Haven’t actually tried it yet, though.)

  133. 133.

    Violet

    @Morzer: You have my sympathies. I changed my diet about a week ago and it’s been tough on some days. Hang in there. You’ll be glad. Are the days of low calories part of the Intermittent Fasting trend that seems to be sweeping the diet world?

  134. 134.

    shortstop

    Am I a prude for being creeped out by the refrigerated dildo? I’m down with the toy part, but as I have already established in this thread, COLD, YUCK! UGH!

  136. 136.

    ? Martin

    @Betty Cracker: We have a few KK, but I grew up with DD. So, regardless of the merits of each, its nostalgic for me. Ate a lot of DD in Grand Central and Penn Stations.

  137. 137.

    ruviana

    @? Martin: Gotta disagree. Winchell’s. The only real doughnuts (and Stan’s in Westwood. Don’t know if it’s still there though).

  142. 142.

    Elizabelle

    @Morzer:

    Are you sure you’re not 98 years old in a nursing home?

    In a nursing home being punished, yet.

    Gah!

    Extra hoping the diet takes off some pounds for you.

  143. 143.

    Morzer

    @Violet:

    Yes, basically. Joking aside, it works and you get used to the hungry days and what you can do well on them. I’ve lost about 23 pounds in 11 weeks, without having to go crazy on exercise or counting calories obsessively.

    This is the ‘official’ site for the 5:2 peeps:

    http://thefastdiet.co.uk/

  144. 144.

    ? Martin

    @TooManyJens: Some people refuse to give up an opportunity to paint themselves as the victim. In a conspiracy, everyone gets to be the victim.

  145. 145.

    Roxy

    @Betty Cracker:

    Where I live there’s a Rolling Pin Donut shop nearby. I will say they are better than DD and KC. I worked for a doughnut shop called Donut World. Donut World was better than Rolling Pin. This was during my late teens in the early 70s.

  149. 149.

    TooManyJens

    @? Martin: I don’t know that it’s the desire to paint oneself as a victim, so much as the desire to paint oneself as ever so much smarter and less gullible than the masses.

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    Violet

    @shortstop: It’s on top of the fridge in the background of a BBC on-camera interview. I don’t think it’s refrigerated. Fridge top is just a flat surface for storage.

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    Morzer

    @shortstop:

    I think of it as my Simpson-Bowles coffee. It tastes bitter and doesn’t do anything for you but you drink it just because it’s there.

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    Mr Stagger Lee

    @karen: Just came from the auto-shop where they have, yes sportsfans Fox News and Steve Emerson is like Meg Ryan in When Harry met Sally fake orgasm mode, in describing the two brothers, the only thing missing was a picture of the Tsarnaev Brothers with Osama Bin Laden spotted at a Justin Bieber Concert.

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    quannlace

    Got some leftover vegetables, with sauce on the side, from a chinese takeout. So think I’ll make a tofu stir-fry.

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    Ruckus

    @Morzer:
    I refuse to feel responsible for your diet.

    I have enough trouble staying anywhere near mine. Make that more than enough. No, make that way more than enough. Oh shit now I feel like a donut. Or a bowl of ice cream. No wait, a piece of cheesecake. Damn, I think I’m going to whip up some sugarwater and mainline it. Now we’re talking.

  159. 159.

    patroclus

    Hey guys! I’m really interested in quickly locating a guy named Dzhokhar Tsarnaev – anybody know a good way to find him?? I think he has a brother, but, sadly, I recently heard that he was deceased. If anyone has any recommendations on a good way to find Dzhokhar, it would be much appreciated! Thanks!

  161. 161.

    Tone in DC

    @Morzer:

    You know, I tried to live a decent life. I didn’t even covet my neighbor’s ass.

    (Not admittedly difficult, because he’s got one huge, pasty wing-nut ass…)

    LULz. Nor his ox, gored or not.

  162. 162.

    Violet

    @Morzer: That’s what I thought. I’m giving up wheat and gluten in general due to a sensitivity. Decided to look into the Perfect Health Diet after somewhere here mentioned it and it answers a lot of questions for me that I’ve had with other low car/paleo type diets. They are big on Intermittent Fasting, but suggest you do it for 16 hours, keeping your eating to an 8 hour window. Not every days, but, say, finish your dinner by 8 p.m. and then don’t eat until lunch the following days. You can eat coconut oil and beef broth and coffee with cream, so it’s not totally fasting, but fasting for the purposes of changing the metabolic processes in your body. I’m completely not hungry on it at all. Don’t miss any of the grains, which is a surprise for me.

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    Ruckus

    @Morzer:
    And that’s not really necessary.
    I’m good all on my own in imagining foods.

    My only saving graces are being cheap and not feeling like baking and cooking much anymore.

  167. 167.

    Morzer

    @Violet:

    I have more energy and a better appetite and I appreciate food much more. I think there’s something to be said for restricting bread and similar substances, although my wife is a fabulous baker.

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    GregB

    @Violet:

    That may be a punking. Marcus Mumford is the name of the lead singer from Mumford and Sons.

    Check the kerning of the picture.

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    Morzer

    @Ruckus:

    Joking aside, I find it helps not to keep certain things in the house. The delay between thinking about them and going out to the store to buy them is quite a good chance to rein in one’s animal instincts.

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    Elizabelle

    @Morzer:

    I will try that.

    Bought some ground espresso yesterday. Thinking 2 demitasses might be less liquid and less caloric than two big mugs of French Roast with milk, as most mornings.

  171. 171.

    Huggy Bear

    @Ben Franklin:

    An FBI profiler on the news last night said that killers like this often engage in meticulous planning for the attack yet treat the escape plan as an afterthought.

    Doesn’t make sense to normal folks, but then again neither does blowing up innocent people.

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    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    @scav:

    This quote is from the Reuters article that Southern Beale wrote about on her blog:

    The resolution is the result of a study Smith called “the most comprehensive listening exercise in the history of Scouting” that found parents in three of four U.S. regions opposed the current membership policy

    In other words, roughly 27% of US regions were in favor of the old policy.

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    Morzer

    @Elizabelle:

    If you decide to try it, the hungry day allowance for women is 500 calories. For me with my wild 600 calories, it works best to hold off on eating until about 1 pm, if possible, have 200 calories then, another 200 by roughly 5 pm and then my last 200 at 9 pm.

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    Violet

    @Morzer: Yeah, I love good bread and sweet treats like cake or cookies. But wheat is like a drug for me. I have some, I want more. And detoxing from it is like a hangover or what I’d imagine a drug detox is like. I feel pretty crappy for about four days, then I feel great. Once I’ve done it, I really don’t want to have to do it again.

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    fidelio

    @Morzer: This sounds a bit like the Rotation Diet that came out of Vanderbilt University in the 1980s. That was a little more complicated but had the same idea of a few days of severe cutbacks combined with days of higher [near-normal] caloric intake to keep your metabolism from resetting to adapt to diet conditions.

  178. 178.

    Elizabelle

    @Morzer:

    I would like to try it. Would love to teach hunger to abate.

    Agree with Violet on cutting out wheat and grains, but, *sob* that means pasta too. Ah well.

  179. 179.

    Mnemosyne

    @Huggy Bear:

    An FBI profiler on the news last night said that killers like this often engage in meticulous planning for the attack yet treat the escape plan as an afterthought.

    Do they assume they will be greeted with flowers and candy?

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    Mnemosyne

    @Morzer:

    It’s funny, but what you’re describing is exactly the kind of eating pattern that caused me to gain weight. Though I probably wasn’t counting my calories very well on the days I would skip meals.

    Just another example of “it takes all kinds.”

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    Darkrose

    @maurinsky: Sending good thoughts to your daughter. I lived in Allston/Brighton for most of my 13 years in Boston, and I can imagine how terrified I would be, especially with the T shut down.

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    Violet

    @Elizabelle: Try giving up wheat/gluten for a fixed period of time. I tried two weeks. I felt significantly better. The pasta thing can be dealt with by using rice pasta (rice is okay on the PHD), or if you are just removing gluten, go with some of the other grain pastas. Not quite the same, but workable. I just don’t miss it. I feel better without.

    The thing about keeping your hunger under control is to have enough food and fat to feel satisfied. If you don’t eat the fat, you won’t feel full and then you’ll want to snack on unhealthy things.

  185. 185.

    Elizabelle

    @Violet:

    Rice pasta, you say? Hmmm.

    Have some tofu pasta wannabe stuff in the fridge. It may be 40 calories per package, but just not good. Texture is off.

    Thinking I should learn to cut zucchini very, very thinly and settle for that.

  186. 186.

    Darkrose

    @Elizabelle: I’ve been limiting my carbs for about a month now, since I was diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes, trying to keep it to no more than 60g per main meal and 20 for snacks. At the same time, I’m eating a lot more whole grains (as in, more than none, which is what I ate before) and vegetables. I’ve completely stopped drinking regular soda; I have a diet Pepsi sometimes, and water with a couple of the sugar-free flavor squirts. Between that, and exercising regularly (20-30 minutes on the stationary bike at least every other day) I’ve dropped some weight–we don’t have a scale, but my clothes are fitting differently–and more importantly, my blood sugar is trending down to something close to normal levels. I’m on medication as well, but the dose is very low, so I’m pretty sure the lifestyle changes have more to do with it.

    What seemed to work for me is moderation. Completely eliminating carbs would just make me want them, and eventually I’d binge and decide, “fuck it, why bother?” The exercise is also helping; I do my biking in the evening while watching TV, and I’ve found that I fall asleep more easily and sleep more soundly than I had been. For the previous year, I was averaging around 4-5 hours of sleep nightly, which is likely one of the reasons for the weight gain and the diabetes and the depression.

  187. 187.

    Elizabelle

    @Darkrose:

    Great to hear and good luck to you.

    I hear you on the glamour of forbidden foods.

    That your clothes are fitting differently (and you don’t mean “tighter”) — that, sir is an accomplishment.

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    Morzer

    @Elizabelle:

    I would caution you that for some reason my body now seems more susceptible to fluid retention after having salt/soy sauce with a meal. If you go for the 5:2 diet, be aware that you may sometimes see a strange 2-3 pound weight ‘gain’ where none should have been possible on the day after you have had salty food. Don’t let this discourage you – just drink lots of water.

  189. 189.

    Violet

    @Elizabelle: The best brand seems to be something like Tinkayada–not sure I’ve spelled that right. I’ve tried it and don’t love it, but you can get rice noodles of all sorts at Asian supermarkets.

    The thing I like about the Perfect Health Diet is that you can have plenty of starches–so long as they are plain and not grain-based. I’m not hungry and I’m not craving carbs like I have on low-carb diets. Grains make me crave more grains (except rice, which doesn’t). I’m eating what would normally be considered heavier food than I have in ages and am now at a lower weight than I’ve been in months. Clothes fit differently too. It’s belly fat that goes.

  190. 190.

    Morzer

    @Mnemosyne:

    Well, on regular days you can eat what you want within reason. I guess part of the idea is that you don’t let your body get accustomed to a given level of calories per day.

  191. 191.

    Violet

    @Elizabelle: Wanted to add that soy is something I use only in moderation because it’s terrible for anyone with a thyroid condition, like me. A lot of modern soy is not processed in traditional ways and thus you end up with a lot more of the estrogenic and other hormonal qualities. I rarely eat tofu and wouldn’t eat something like tofu pasta (sounds awful anyway–no wonder you don’t like it). Ditto soy milk and lots of soy additives in foods. I avoid soybean oil and grain-based oils.

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    Darkrose

    @Morzer: Wouldn’t that make your body confused? I would think that the inconsistency of not knowing when its going to be fed would make your system go haywire, or does it work as long as the inconsistency is consistent?

  193. 193.

    Morzer

    @Darkrose:

    As I understand it, you kinda sorta want your body to be confused so that it doesn’t reset itself to expect a certain level of calories per day. Part of the reason consistent calorie reduction doesn’t work is that the body adjusts to a given level of energy intake and stops burning stored fat.

    That said, I am not a food scientist or nutritionist and a lot of the theory/science behind this stuff is still very new and/or unproven.

    I know that this approach works for me so far and that’s all I ask from it.

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    Opie_jeanne

    @Darkrose: I was just diagnosed last week. Sorting out the carbs and figuring out what to eat is my project right now. My husband who is always supportive is being no help on the issue of exercise, though. Stinker.

  198. 198.

    LanceThruster

    @TooManyJens:

    Yeah, anytime something does not seem to fit the official narrative, just chalk it up to crackpots. No wonder the mushrooms are kept so contented, seeings how they’re fed so well.

    We always know what’s going on even without in-depth investigation that might actually lead us to discover what is going on. 9/11 taught us that.

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    Fort Geek

    @Betty Cracker: Got to agree with you; Krispy Kreme at the top, Dunkin’ a bit farther down, and fecking walmart *spit* at the bottom. There are a couple of local shops I’d put above DD, but can’t remember their names.

    Fortunately, I haven’t had one of those nasty, flavorless things in years.

  201. 201.

    Elizabelle

    @Morzer:
    @Violet:
    @Darkrose:

    Thank you for all the good information. Bookmarked this thread.

    Am desperate to take off some poundage and keep it off. I could lose 20-30 pounds happily.

    Even unhappily.

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