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Not my bag, baby

by DougJ|  June 17, 20139:31 pm| 73 Comments

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Charlie Rose is a drunk idiot who pimped the Iraq War. Why all my “liberal” friends are on his jock is a mystery to me.

I love Obama, but let’s hope the next Democratic president never does his show.

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  1. 1.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 17, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    I’ve never heard “on his jock” before.

  2. 2.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    June 17, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    Isn’t Charlie Rose a totebagging fool? What’s not to love?

  3. 3.

    Baud

    June 17, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    Ha. My comment in the previous thread.

  4. 4.

    Emma

    June 17, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    Aren’t the Snowden supporters claiming that it’s not the messenger, it’s the message?

  5. 5.

    Baud

    June 17, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    Obama should have put up a diary on kos instead. ;-)

  6. 6.

    David Koch

    June 17, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    This is the final straw. Primary Obummer in 2016!

  7. 7.

    Ted & Hellen

    June 17, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    I love Obama,

    This is all that needs to be said, and pondered regarding your skewed perspective, Little Doug.

  8. 8.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 17, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    @Baud: Do we now have to cut and paste all our witty Charlie Rose related badinage onto this thread to be appropriately topical?

    @ Doug Milhous J:

    Why all my “liberal” friends are on his jock is a mystery to me.

    Totebaggers. obvs.

  9. 9.

    bill d

    June 17, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    Rose is an older, well off, white guy who likes to complain a lot and you are curious as to the “true progressive’s” crush on him?

  10. 10.

    Baud

    June 17, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I’ve decided to retire my old material.

  11. 11.

    srv

    June 17, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    I’ve always hated watching Presidents speak, but this would make me sick.

    Doug, sooner or later, you’re going to realize he’s your “liberal” friends guy and not your guy.

  12. 12.

    lamh35

    June 17, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    If the next President is Hilary Clinton, then I’m guessing you’ll be greatly disappointed DougJ

  13. 13.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    June 17, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: If we do, can DougJ pre-pie T&H for us?

  14. 14.

    Cacti

    June 17, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    @lamh35:

    If the next President is Hilary Clinton, then I’m guessing you’ll be greatly disappointed DougJ

    Much to the chagrin of our resident PUMAs, I’ve little doubt that Hill will find a way to muck up Inevitability Part 2: Electric Boogaloo.

  15. 15.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 17, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Fuck if I know. Ask him.

  16. 16.

    Suffern ACE

    June 17, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    Well I guess if he could only pick shows that were skeptical of the war in real time, he could ask that someone rehire Donohue. I think that might be the only one.

  17. 17.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 17, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    I heard a lot about CHarlie Rose, about the great, long-form, serious discussions he had. I tried to watch a few times and he’s pretty much like Tweety without the hyperactivity: Long rambling questions, stepping on his guests attempts to answer.

    That said, I don’t know where I’d want Obama to go for a TeeVee interview. Martha Raddatz?

  18. 18.

    Anne Laurie

    June 17, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    @David Koch:

    Primary Obummer in 2016!

    You know, as long as you can’t refer to President Obama without “snark” like this, I’ve got to assume you’re a Repub plant.

    The open question is whether you’re paid to spam us, or if your GOP masters are aware you’ll keep doing it for free.

  19. 19.

    Cacti

    June 17, 2013 at 9:46 pm

    @Ted & Hellen:

    This is all that needs to be said, and pondered regarding your skewed perspective, Little Doug

    Shouldn’t you be out patrolling the streets for dangerous black bucks with Skittles?

  20. 20.

    Tom Levenson

    June 17, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    Charley Rose is every Big Pharma’s worst nightmare. No market for sleep aids when he’s on the air.

    I have no brief for interviewers who think they are the star of their show. Nuff said.

  21. 21.

    David Koch

    June 17, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    @Anne Laurie: keep fucking that chicken.

  22. 22.

    ? Martin

    June 17, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Somewhere ‘on his jock’ and ‘choke out with a strap on’ are going to intersect. It’s inevitable. I don’t want to be around when it happens.

  23. 23.

    pokeyblow

    June 17, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    @Tom Levenson: If I have something I’m compelled to reveal, but would rather keep secret, I’ll ring up Charlie Rose’s people.

  24. 24.

    Betty Cracker

    June 17, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    Looking forward to hearing Obama’s take on the Snowden info dump and would watch it even if it were on Fox. I’m conflicted about the NSA issue. For once, the truth might actually reside in the middle of the two poles. It has to happen occasionally, right?

  25. 25.

    Cacti

    June 17, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    @David Koch:

    why would i care what you think. nobody else does.

    It was such a bummer for AL when Rep. Nadler disavowed the breathless reports of the LaRouchies and Paultards.

    The “inadequate black man” must have gotten to him.

  26. 26.

    Suffern ACE

    June 17, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    @Tom Levenson: the problem is that is pretty much every show now. Could you imagine Tweety or Andersen or Wolf Blitzer handing the interview over to someone who might have spent the afternoon learning about the structure of the security agencies? He might be better off on Dr. Drew.

  27. 27.

    pokeyblow

    June 17, 2013 at 9:57 pm

    @efgoldman: I don’t disagree with your sentiment, but it’s sad that you’re so predictable, just sticking your hand up for attention all the time.

  28. 28.

    pokeyblow

    June 17, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    @Suffern ACE: Wolf Blitzer? I’d hardly categorize him as informed.

    I’m sorry, but Obama is on Tom Rose because of the late schedule, and the accommodating atmosphere.

  29. 29.

    Howard Beale IV

    June 17, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    The sooner a Dem Prez candidate distances himself from Obama’s policies (NSA reauth, Holder/Breuer not prosecuting the control fraud perps, etc ) the better.

    Shame that candidate Obama != President Obama.

  30. 30.

    Baud

    June 17, 2013 at 10:00 pm

    @Howard Beale IV:

    candidate Obama != President Obama.

    candidate [anyone] != President [anyone]

  31. 31.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 17, 2013 at 10:00 pm

    @pokeyblow: I’d suggest that you reread the comment you are criticizing.

  32. 32.

    Howard Beale IV

    June 17, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    @Cacti: Nadler’s backatrack isn’t what you think it is; rather it’s acqiescing to what the Adminsitration said.

    IOW, he isn’t willing to put his ass on the line and call out Clapper as a perjurer.

  33. 33.

    Cacti

    June 17, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    @pokeyblow:

    I’m sorry, but Obama is on Tom Rose

    If you say so.

  34. 34.

    Cacti

    June 17, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    @Howard Beale IV:

    Nadler’s backatrack isn’t what you think it is

    I know this is disappointing for you. Have a good cry if you need to.

  35. 35.

    pokeyblow

    June 17, 2013 at 10:03 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Thank, and apologies to Suffern ACE.

    I’m old-school, and think an afternoon’s commitment to some complicated issue isn’t remarkable.

  36. 36.

    Suffern ACE

    June 17, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    @pokeyblow: Blitzer wouldn’t even give you the afternoon.

  37. 37.

    Ted & Hellen

    June 17, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    @Cacti:

    Shouldn’t you be out patrolling the streets for dangerous black bucks with Skittles?

    Here again we see the classic Botsplainer’s misdirection/racist maneuver. When frustrated by an opponent’s temerity in making a comment unaligned with its own thinking, the Botsplainer spews in all directions, hoping something, anything will stick.

  38. 38.

    pokeyblow

    June 17, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    @Cacti: Sorry. Charlie Rose. Not to garner sympathy, but an old friend named Tom committed suicide a week ago. My emotion is 70% anger, 20% whatever, 10% sorrow (I think), but his name is on my mind.

  39. 39.

    Howard Beale IV

    June 17, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    @Baud:

    True: but you’d think we’d be smart enough to realize that; but the only reason why Obama got elected for 2012 was that Romney was (1) orders of magnitude worse than Obama and (2) no credible third party like those that exists in other (albeit Pralimenterian) representative democracies.

    If it wasn’t for the fact that Perot went batshit crazy in 1992, maybe a true third party could have emerged. But it didn’t and we’re stuck with the consequences of what happened at that time-and we’re paying dearly for that.

  40. 40.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    June 17, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    @pokeyblow: You have my condolences.

  41. 41.

    Baud

    June 17, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    @Howard Beale IV:

    You have a better grasp on alternative histories than I do.

  42. 42.

    Howard Beale IV

    June 17, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    @Cacti:

    “Only the paranoid survive.” –Andy Grove, Intel

  43. 43.

    pokeyblow

    June 17, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Thank you.

    We were close 30 years ago, and talked intermittently since then. So I won’t claim to be in the immediate “blast zone.” But it sucks.

  44. 44.

    Howard Beale IV

    June 17, 2013 at 10:17 pm

    @Baud: And that’s the rub, isn’t it?

  45. 45.

    Cacti

    June 17, 2013 at 10:23 pm

    @Ted & Hellen:

    On a scale of 1-10, how sad were you when Jerry Sandusky was convicted?

  46. 46.

    Howard Beale IV

    June 17, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    Why is is that when real journalism is commited it’s ignored?

  47. 47.

    Hawes

    June 17, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    The two most liberal presidents in history got us into an undeclared war with Germany and interned Japanese Americans and the other got us into Vietnam.

    And you’re pissed about Charlie Rose?

  48. 48.

    Ted & Hellen

    June 17, 2013 at 10:27 pm

    @Cacti:

    On a scale of 1-10, how sad were you when Jerry Sandusky was convicted?

    Here we see the Botsplainer attempting to…well, we’ve seen this many, many times before so let’s just behold and ponder its sad descent to depravity; allowing its wretched condition to speak for itself…

  49. 49.

    Hawes

    June 17, 2013 at 10:27 pm

    @Howard Beale IV: Third parties will never emerge in a First-Past-The-Post single member district elections. Give it up. It’s an impossibility.

  50. 50.

    Suffern ACE

    June 17, 2013 at 10:28 pm

    @Howard Beale IV: I have no idea where that push will come from. It would appear that there is a bunch of warmongers in their enclaves in Washington and New York who don’t quite get that we’ve almost moved on from 9/11, that they’ve gone far enough, and we don’t want another Mideast war of any sort. Even if its only some no fly zone. They form kind of a fifth column and are in both parties.

    But getting rid of them is going to require money and time that we don’t have.

  51. 51.

    beliebert

    June 17, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    @lamh35: I think most of the Obama haters on the left are Clintonista’s. That in and of itself totally discredits them because if they think Obama is towing the company line too much then they are in for a real shocker if Hillary ever gets in. The same Hillary that voted for the Iraq war and has sided with neocons on several other occasions.

  52. 52.

    NonyNony

    June 17, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    @Howard Beale IV:

    If it wasn’t for the fact that Perot went batshit crazy in 1992, maybe a true third party could have emerged.

    A true third party built as a cult of personality revolving around H. Ross Perot. Who didn’t “go batshit crazy” in ’92 to trash his candidacy so much as “revealed to the world that he was already batshit crazy” in ’92 to trash his candidacy.

  53. 53.

    NickT

    June 17, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    @Cacti:

    His little dial went all the way up to 11.

  54. 54.

    Cacti

    June 17, 2013 at 10:31 pm

    @Hawes:

    The two most liberal presidents in history got us into an undeclared war with Germany

    War was formally declared on Germany and Italy on December 11, 1941, following the declarations of war from those two nations on the United States earlier that day.

  55. 55.

    Hawes

    June 17, 2013 at 10:33 pm

    @Cacti: You’re forgetting seven or eight months of undeclared naval war in the North Atlantic. The sinking of the Reuben James, the destroyer for bases deal, Lend Lease. We were at war with Germany well before Pearl Harbor.

  56. 56.

    Cacti

    June 17, 2013 at 10:33 pm

    @Ted & Hellen:

    So, why did you spend all that energy arguing so forcefully in favor a child molester?

  57. 57.

    David Koch

    June 17, 2013 at 10:33 pm

    @Howard Beale IV: if this nsa pgrm is so bad then why is Elizabeth Warren supporting it?

  58. 58.

    steve

    June 17, 2013 at 10:34 pm

    Charlie Rose is a drunk idiot who pimped the Iraq War.

    As a Sobriety-Challenged-American, I object to this soberist bigotry and ask you to refrain from it in the future.

  59. 59.

    Cacti

    June 17, 2013 at 10:36 pm

    @Hawes:

    You’re forgetting seven or eight months of undeclared naval war in the North Atlantic. The sinking of the Reuben James, the destroyer for bases deal, Lend Lease. We were at war with Germany well before Pearl Harbor.

    Boots on the ground in Europe would have been a substantially trickier proposition for Roosevelt had Hitler not thrown the door wide open for him, in the hope that Japan would renege on their non-aggression pact with the Soviet Union.

  60. 60.

    michelle

    June 17, 2013 at 10:36 pm

    @Anne Laurie: wrong again

  61. 61.

    David Koch

    June 17, 2013 at 10:45 pm

    @Hawes: so true. roosevelt began constructing the atomic bomb (in secret!!) on October 9th, 1941, two months before pearl harbor.

    roosevelt also began supplying China with arms in 1938.

    in 38 roosevelt began a giant rearmament prgam, years before pearl.

    Normon Thomas and the socialist party denounced roosevelt in 38 as warmonger and claimed his actions were a march towards fascism. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

  62. 62.

    AHH onna Droid

    June 17, 2013 at 10:47 pm

    Doug, dont be a dumbass. Obama has made his whole career on convincing toyebaggers that hes serious and accepting their checks. He’s making a direct play to the only persuadables among those paying attention to this issue. If he can win the manhattan cocjtail party set then even the liberal NYT will declare snoopgate jokesauce and 2014 will be saved.

  63. 63.

    Doug Milhous J

    June 17, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    @lamh35:

    I can live with her.

  64. 64.

    ruemara

    June 17, 2013 at 10:58 pm

    @Anne Laurie: He’s who you jump on? Seriously? Whatever.

  65. 65.

    Eric U.

    June 17, 2013 at 11:05 pm

    it still surprises me a little that republicans think that fighting Hitler was somehow an act of agression.

  66. 66.

    NonyNony

    June 17, 2013 at 11:06 pm

    @Doug Milhous J:

    I think that “seriously disappointed” was in regards to this:

    let’s hope the next Democratic president never does his show.

    As in a “if the next Dem President is Hillary Clinton, this particular hope will be dashed” sort of disappointment.

  67. 67.

    fuckwit

    June 17, 2013 at 11:12 pm

    Totebagging fool, indeed.

    But I thought this was hilarious:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFE2CCfAP1o

  68. 68.

    David Koch

    June 17, 2013 at 11:56 pm

    @Howard Beale IV:

    Obama got elected for 2012 was that Romney was (1) orders of magnitude worse than Obama and (2) no credible third party

    Who would have been better then obummer?

    Warren? Warren supported TARP. Warren supports drones, bombing Iran, and FISA.

    Sanders? Bernie has been in congress for 22 years and has never passed a single bill. not one. Just three weeks ago Sanders tried to pass a bill on GMO labeling, it lost 71-27, wthe Warren (shocking!) voting against transparency. And when it comes to guns, Bernie voted against over the counter background checks and voted to immunize gun manufacturers from all lawsuits.

    Feingold? He voted for Rumsfeld, Roberts, and Ashcroft. He even said he supported Bush’s warrantless wiretap pgm if he went to FISA. And can’t even win his home state.

  69. 69.

    James E. Powell

    June 18, 2013 at 1:14 am

    @Hawes:

    We were at war with Germany well before Pearl Harbor.

    You say that like it’s a bad thing.

    Also too, how that germane to anything our current president is or is not doing?

  70. 70.

    lojasmo

    June 18, 2013 at 1:21 am

    @Ted & Hellen:

    precious

  71. 71.

    lojasmo

    June 18, 2013 at 1:22 am

    @pokeyblow:

    pot; kettle.

  72. 72.

    A Humble Lurker

    June 18, 2013 at 1:33 am

    @Anne Laurie:
    Honest question: do you read the comments on this blog? Because this poster has been around since the Koch’s were exposed (hence the moniker) and has proven since to be if not as far from a Republican troll as you can get, still a LOT farther away than other posters you could accuse. And this isn’t the first time you’ve accused them of this. And you never responded to the debunking of the Nadler story yourself yesterday.

    But you know, if you want to go after David Koch after you accused ABL of going all black list on Corner Stone for putting him in a time out for being racist, (when she had a relative who was blacklisted, by the way) you go right ahead. That’s your mistake to make.

  73. 73.

    taylormattd

    June 18, 2013 at 11:56 am

    @Anne Laurie: you respond to *that* comment; but don’t appear to give two shits about literal psychopath Ted & Helen

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