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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Excellent Links / Someone Give Kathleen Geier a Weekday Job

Someone Give Kathleen Geier a Weekday Job

by @heymistermix.com|  June 30, 201310:05 am| 63 Comments

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Her post on Wendy Davis and progressivism is good:

[…] I want to focus not so much on the abortion rights issue, or on Davis as an individual, but on something else. Davis is a great example of the potentially large payoffs to progressives of diverting more activist energies away from national issues and towards the state and local elections ones.

Let me explain. First of all, I believe that progressives pay too much attention, relatively speaking, to national politics, especially at the presidential level. While electing a Democratic presidential is crucial, progressives who pin their hopes on electing a liberal president are all too likely to get burned. Historically, Americans have never tended to elect progressive presidents. For one thing, we have an electoral college which gives disproportionate representation to smaller, whiter, more conservative states. For another, the unprogressive mainstream media, wealthy poltical donors, and unelected political elites often more or less decide which candidates each party nominates, well before a single political primary vote is cast.

Read the whole post, it’s worth it. The only thing I’ll add about Davis is that I wish she’d run against Cornyn. I’m sure the Democratic consultant conventional wisdom is that a male Latino centrist would be Cornyn’s best challenger, but why not run Davis to make a hard-edged comparison between the two parties’ positions on women? Cornyn is probably not as dumb as Perry (who among us is?), so he probably won’t immediately stick his foot in his mouth when discussing Davis’ past as a single mom, but I’m sure his alligator-and-ostrich-skin shitkickers will occupy his oral cavity a few times if he’s faced with a Davis challenge.

Geier’s piece on totebagger crush Chris Christie and his standard-issue Republican anti-gay bigotry is also good. It’s too bad we only get to read her stuff on weekends at the Washington Monthly.

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  1. 1.

    Brother Machine Gun of Desirable Mindfulness (fka AWS)

    June 30, 2013 at 10:10 am

    I’m sure the Democratic consultant conventional wisdom is that a male Latino centrist would be Cornyn’s best challenger, but why not run Davis to make a hard-edged comparison between the two parties’ positions on women?

    Because she said she doesn’t want to leave Texas? And I’m not sure I’d blame her to have to be going to D.C. and dealing with those shitheads in the Senate.

    ETA: Not that the shitheads in the Texas Lege are any better, but at least it’s a part-time gig.

  2. 2.

    MTiffany

    June 30, 2013 at 10:10 am

    why not run Davis to make a hard-edged comparison between the two parties’ positions on women?

    Because hard-edged things usually cut both ways.

  3. 3.

    MomSense

    June 30, 2013 at 10:16 am

    I really am hoping she will run for Governor. I think the energy right now is there and she is a perfect fit.

  4. 4.

    amk

    June 30, 2013 at 10:25 am

    she’d run against Cornyn.

    kinda contradicting what geier is saying.

  5. 5.

    PeakVT

    June 30, 2013 at 10:28 am

    @MTiffany: Yes, but there’s no advantage in running a mealy-mouthed moderate for a seat when there’s very little chance of winning. I think anyone who sees Davis (or anyone else) as a savior in Texas in 2014 is out of their mind. But AFAICT the Texas Dem party needs to convince its base it can win before it tries to persuade moderates to switch. Corporate-friendly hacks don’t do much to motive the people who do the grunt work of campaigns.

  6. 6.

    Josie

    June 30, 2013 at 10:41 am

    I don’t much care who runs for what in 2014, but getting a strong woman and a strong Hispanic candidate on the Dem side of the ballot would give us a fighting chance. The other part of the equation is supporting Battleground Texas in order to register as many new voters as possible in all parts of the state.

  7. 7.

    Hawes

    June 30, 2013 at 10:46 am

    The reason to focus on the states is because that’s where House districts are drawn. If the Democrats had controlled Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania’s legislatures and governor’s mansions in 2010, we might have a Democratic House right now.

    Also, the states can be where real, immediate change for better or worse gets done.

    I agree with her that progressives do a shitty job at focusing on state level politics, but Howard Dean gave it a try and the Obama machine looks to try and build on it. I would disagree that party elites select the Democratic presidential candidate, because I was awake and paying attention in 2008 when the elites were all wrapped up by Clinton.

  8. 8.

    mistermix

    June 30, 2013 at 10:47 am

    @amk: Not really. You start by supporting good candidates for local seats. If one gets some national attention, then you have a strong progressive who can run for a statewide seat.

    @PeakVT: This.

  9. 9.

    waratah

    June 30, 2013 at 10:49 am

    We are already being told that she would not have a chance to win a state wide election.
    http://www.texastribune.org/2013/06/29/davis-opportunity-knocks-inopportune-time/
    I seem to remember a lot of folks thought that BHO did not stand a chance.
    She will have my support and vote with what ever she decides to do.

  10. 10.

    gene108

    June 30, 2013 at 10:50 am

    Geier’s piece on totebagger crush Chris Christie

    I hope Christie’s right-wing convictions get made public. He’ll win the governorship again this year, but if people point out as right-wing as Santorum, it could hurt him int he 2016 Presidential election.

    Or it’d help him make it through the GOP primary, with the fact his worst right-wing impulses have been held in check by a Democratic controlled legislature giving him the ability to deny he’d do anything crazy, if he’s President.

    I don’t know, but President Chrstie is going to suck.

  11. 11.

    WereBear

    June 30, 2013 at 10:51 am

    @Hawes: I agree with her that progressives do a shitty job at focusing on state level politics, but Howard Dean gave it a try and the Obama machine looks to try and build on it.

    I agree that the obvious seems to be sinking in. I see this misconception as part of the corporate culture that is rotting our society; the CEO is worshipped, yet is considered interchangeable, and does NONE of the actual work.

    Not that a talented person is not essential in this role; look at the way Apple would do spectacularly well during Steve Jobs’ tenures. But none of those great ideas would mean anything if he didn’t have a lot of techs to make them work.

  12. 12.

    waratah

    June 30, 2013 at 10:53 am

    @Josie: I would love to have a Democratic canditate to vote for in my district. I agree we need to start now.

  13. 13.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    June 30, 2013 at 10:59 am

    I sent Davis some money directly the morning after her filibuster. Dunno what she should run for next, but I agree that the states are very, very important.

    Direct support – cutting out the party middle-men – needs a bigger place in the process. (I am nearly fed up with the tsunami of e-mails I’m getting from the various national political organizations and boutique candidates (I’m looking at you Alan Grayson) who seem to do nothing but scream about the horrors of the Republicans in the election 18 months from now while doing little or nothing to change the battlefield.)

    Kathleen is very, very good. Be sure to read her review of Sheryl Sandberg’s Lean In if you haven’t seen it.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  14. 14.

    Ted & Hellen

    June 30, 2013 at 11:09 am

    While electing a Democratic presidential is crucial,

    Kay assured us this is not true.

    It does not matter what individual politician is in the office, because his or her character/views/choices on the law have no effect whatsoever on how they are implemented…or something something…

  15. 15.

    Zandar

    June 30, 2013 at 11:11 am

    Considering the abysmal hellholes most state legislatures are in 2013 (take Ohio, which is about to sign into law a horrific set of draconian anti-choice measures as a budget amendment today) we need more people like Wendy Davis fighting at the state level, not the national one.

    We are and will remain screwed until we take back state legislatures. Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin may have voted for Barack Obama nationally and they have some Democrats in the Senate and House, but they are dominated by GOP governors and legislatures that are wrecking the states and there will be zero hope of a progressive moment until we do so.

    As it is, there’s a very good chance Wendy Davis will be redrawn out of her state Senate district anyway thanks to SCOTUS and the VRA.

  16. 16.

    Botsplainer

    June 30, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Trying to get this puppy to come when called is an interesting exercise.

    If I’m walking through the yard, he stays right on my heels and actually gets underfoot. If he’s laying in a nice spot (under an outdoor bench he seems really fond of), he won’t come, so he makes me get him repeatedly.

    And if he’s bored with he training, he keeps running back under the bench in defiance.

    I’ll try again in a couple of hours.

  17. 17.

    gene108

    June 30, 2013 at 11:16 am

    @Zandar:

    I think there’s enough of a backlash in PA to oust Corbett and other Republicans. Corbett has abysmal favorable ratings.

    Link

    The question is how long will it take to undo the damage the Republicans have done at the state level.

  18. 18.

    WereBear

    June 30, 2013 at 11:17 am

    @Botsplainer: Puppies are not “defiant.” The far more likely explanation is that they have attention spans about this big:

    .

    Make it short, simple, and fun… and he will have a good reason to run towards you when he hears his name. From the picture, he’s about three-four months old? They don’t really have a lot of brain development at this age. Getting them housetrained is about the limit; everything else should be as they respond.

    Bright? Yes! Babies? Also yes!

  19. 19.

    Botsplainer

    June 30, 2013 at 11:26 am

    @WereBear:

    He’s 10 weeks old. Seems pretty sharp, and I’m keeping it all upbeat and fun.

    He’s such a baby – it’ll take time. It was pretty funny watching him go back under the bench over and over as I climbed the steps to call him. I had to fight the urge to laugh.

  20. 20.

    Violet

    June 30, 2013 at 11:28 am

    Repeating links for any Texans who might want to go to the rally at the state Capitol tomorrow (Monday) at noon.
    Juanita Jean’s has info on protests at the state capitol on Monday.
    Here’s the Facebook page for the rally on Monday — High noon on the south steps of the Capitol.
    Official Stand with Texas Women Facebook page.

  21. 21.

    Violet

    June 30, 2013 at 11:30 am

    @waratah: The Texas Tribune was the only member of the media to cover Davis’s filibuster and the protests at the Capitol. I don’t see that article as saying she can’t win, just that it’s going to be difficult and that a lot of the problem has to do with the Democratic party in Texas. Which is a very real issue.

    Sometimes a single candidate can rejuvenate a party–Reagan did it for the Republicans, Obama did it for the Dems to some extent–at least he brought in new, younger voters. Maybe Davis can do it on a statewide level. If a Latino was also out there running for the Dems for some statewide office it could definitely increase interest.

  22. 22.

    Botsplainer

    June 30, 2013 at 11:32 am

    He gets under this so I have to pick it up.

    http://i.imgur.com/tSQAg9u.jpg

  23. 23.

    Tokyokie

    June 30, 2013 at 11:33 am

    I’ve always thought Cornyn, a bland, pro forma right-winger, could be beaten, if the Democrats fielded the right candidate against him. Cornyn won election in 2002 against the well-funded but uninspiring centrist Ron Kirk, then coasted to re-election in 2008 against the underfunded and little-known State Rep. Rick Noriega. He’s never been pushed very hard in a general election campaign, and I doubt he’s sufficiently politically nimble to perform that dance.

    It might have been not long after the Terri Schiavo debacle in which Cornyn, trying to make a name for himself, took a prominent role, that I saw a list of unfavorability ratings among constituents of all 100 U.S. senators, and Cornyn topped the chart. (Yet Texas Democrats fielded a nobody to run against him in 2008.) Cornyn has always impressed me as a guy who’s not a passionate conservative, but rather somebody of little conviction who will happily move as far to the right as he feels necessary to win elections. I’ve always felt that his support was broad but shallow, and that he’s not the sort of figure who will inspire people to hit the streets to help keep him in office. In other words, even though he has a buttload of money, I think he’s beatable.

    Perry, on the other hand, is even more lacking in in conviction, but figured out long ago that he had to play the role of the passionate conservative to the hilt to be able to sell his long con. (Don’t forget, Perry started out as a Democrat, and made a name for him by switching parties and taking down Jim Hightower in the agricultural commissioner race at the behest of the Farm Bureau types. Now he’s a multimillionaire, despite having never held a job outside of government.) But he’s so utterly craven, that I’m not sure that any but the dimmest of fundies trust him any longer. The state of Texas is suffering from Perry fatigue, and his revealing himself to the entire nation as an unmitigated moron and making Texas, by extension, look bad, didn’t help his cause. I think Texas voters would chuck him aside if offered a viable alternative. (And Kinky Friedman ain’t it.) I think if Perry seeks re-election, he loses, either to Greg Abbott or a Ted Cruz type in the primary (although should Abbott run, I’d expect him to remake himself as a tea-party fave) or to an inspirational, well-funded Democrat in the general.

  24. 24.

    Botsplainer

    June 30, 2013 at 11:34 am

    Now we’re worn out in a big way. I just took the photo.

    http://i.imgur.com/bZlW3Ki.jpg

  25. 25.

    amk

    June 30, 2013 at 11:35 am

    @Botsplainer: methinks he likes the cool, moist soil.

  26. 26.

    Violet

    June 30, 2013 at 11:36 am

    @Tokyokie:

    The state of Texas is suffering from Perry fatigue, and his revealing himself to the entire nation as an unmitigated moron and making Texas, by extension, look bad, didn’t help his cause. I think Texas voters would chuck him aside if offered a viable alternative.

    I agree. Isn’t he now the longest serving Governor of Texas? People want change at some point and his terrible national showing during the Republican primary debates did not endear him to people.

  27. 27.

    Violet

    June 30, 2013 at 11:37 am

    @Botsplainer: He’s adorable. As for the training difficulties, I suggest short periods of training and lots of rewards for a job well done by the puppy. Don’t forget to reward yourself for a job well done too!

  28. 28.

    IowaOldLady

    June 30, 2013 at 11:37 am

    @Botsplainer: What a cutie.

  29. 29.

    PsiFighter37

    June 30, 2013 at 11:39 am

    @Zandar: The worst part is that somehow Walker and Kasich seem to have put themselves into a pretty good spot in terms of getting re-elected, even though they are arguably the worst offenders. I think FL is a tossup – Crist will have to deal with $100mm of Rick Scott’s cash money in order to win. In Michigan, I feel like Snyder sunk himself with that last-minute push on making Michigan a right-to-work state – I feel pretty confident that Schauer and Peters are going to win both the governor’s and Senate race, respectively.

    The only state I feel is a slam dunk right now is Pennsylvania. Governor Allyson Schwartz has a really nice ring to it. Perhaps the only thing that would make it sound nicer is if we can make it Lt. Governor Patrick Murphy…although Dems in PA will probably want to balance a Philly-area Dem at the top of the ticket with a Pittsburgh-area Dem. That said, given how underwater Corbett is, if we can get away with it, we should – it’s a shame Murphy lost the AG race (although Kane is acquitting herself very well so far), but this is an opportune time to relaunch what was (and can still be) a very bright political career.

  30. 30.

    aimai

    June 30, 2013 at 11:40 am

    I love Kathy Gee and I wish she would replace Kilgore full time at the WM. I also think people shouldn’t get hung up on what she said about Davis running for the Senate seat vs. the Governor’s seat. I think what KG is pointing out is that the Democrats need to be running kick ass, divisive, sharply drawn, full throated Immigrant and Female candidates in local races, from dog catcher and school board up to Senate and Governorship and not wait around for the perfect candidate or the DNC candidate to show up. We need to keep offering local voters an alternative to the Republicans in every race, not just rely on the Presidential race to do the organizing every four years.

    A few years ago–pre Obama, the head of Emily’s List came to ask my mother for a whole lot of money. I went along to the discussion and found out something I had naively not known–at the time there was basically no organizing and no money except every four years for the Presidential election. All information and campaign strategy was focused on that and then lost in the interim. When Dean articulated the 50 state strategy, and later when Obama (finally) decided to maintain his computer records between campaigns, that was a real sea change in Democratic party politicking.

  31. 31.

    A Humble Lurker

    June 30, 2013 at 11:43 am

    Pardon me, I’ve screwed something up. Feel free to delete.

  32. 32.

    Elizabelle

    June 30, 2013 at 11:44 am

    @Botsplainer:

    Video or it’s not happening.

    What a nice problem you have!

    ETA: saw the pic of the tuckered puppy. What a love.

  33. 33.

    cdw

    June 30, 2013 at 11:45 am

    why not run Davis to make a hard-edged comparison between the two parties’

    Because the squishy democratic party leadership won’t, or constitutionally can’t commit to anything. Please, no more neolibs – and that includes Hillary.

    Democracy for America is planning a state-level turn America blue push. It’s time someone stepped up and who better than Howard and Jim Dean to get the job done?

  34. 34.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 30, 2013 at 11:49 am

    @Botsplainer: Awwww.

    Cute puppy! I’ve never had a puppy so I have no advise for you except to be patient and say a lot of “good boys”.

  35. 35.

    A Humble Lurker

    June 30, 2013 at 11:53 am

    @Ted & Hellen:
    Care to provide a link?

  36. 36.

    FlipYrWhig

    June 30, 2013 at 11:56 am

    @Botsplainer: I was sure this was a metaphor or fable or something related to the post. I was like, is the puppy supposed to be progressive voters?

  37. 37.

    Tokyokie

    June 30, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    @Violet: There’s talk of San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro running against Cornyn in 2014. In 2002, Texas Democrats put together a so-called “dream ticket” of statewide candidates: Dallas Mayor Ron Kirk (who’s black) against Cornyn for Phil Gramm’s old Senate seat, oilman Tony Sanchez against Perry for governor, and Comptroller John Sharp (who’s white) against David Dewhurst for lieutenant governor. They all got rolled, with Sharp coming the closest. But I’d argue that Kirk, who’d been the Dallas city manager before running for mayor, was perceived as a lifetime political insider whom fellow blacks didn’t find particularly inspirational, while Sanchez was pretty conservative and Democrats happened upon him because he was Hispanic and could largely self-fund his campaign. Again, not particularly inspirational. (Sharp, who had a reputation of being highly competent, was pitted against someone with a similar reputation, who has utterly turned to the dark side since assuming office — and he still couldn’t beat Ted Cruz in the recent U.S. Senate primary.)

    Davis and Castro running on the same ticket might not be successful, but they sure wouldn’t be bland.

  38. 38.

    Violet

    June 30, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    Re: The discussion of Rick Perry running for Governor again and how Texans are tired of him, found this on the Texas Tribune’s website:

    One of the most powerful Republicans in Texas, House Speaker Joe Straus, said Friday that Gov. Rick Perry’s controversial remarks about Democratic Sen. Wendy Davis were inappropriate and damaging to the GOP brand.
    …
    “Disagreements over policy are important and they’re healthy, but when he crosses the line into the personal, then he damages himself and he damages the Republican Party,” Straus said.

    And later in the article:

    Republicans have been expressing concerns privately that Perry’s comments are giving fuel to Democrats who say the GOP has declared a “war on women.” With his remarks Friday morning, Straus has taken those concerns public.

    So Perry has ticked off the Republicans. Good. Anything that splits the Republicans and their voters is a good thing.

  39. 39.

    Violet

    June 30, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    @Tokyokie: But 2002 was a very different time than 2014 will be. In 2002, George Bush was President and still had high approval ratings after 9/11 and going into the Iraq war, and in general Texans felt proud. Perry hadn’t been in long enough to totally screw things up. It wasn’t really a strong time for Dems in Texas.

    2014 should be a different time. With the increase of the Latino population in the state over the last decade, and people generally being sick of Perry–and by extension that can mean Republicans in general–it’s a good time for Dems to step up. There are other Republicans who aren’t well-regarded either or who haven’t shown themselves to be good leaders. Dewhurst, for instance, didn’t acquit himself well on Tuesday.

    If the Dems have any strength and brains at all, they’ll strike while the iron’s hot. Offense is better than defense. More fun and gets people excited and involved. I hope they’ll take advantage.

  40. 40.

    waratah

    June 30, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    @Violet: I actually thought the post was a double dare you to Wendy. LOL
    I watched the filibuster from the Texas Tribune and really grateful they were there.
    They are also doing posts to help understand how Texas does stuff.

    I agree that we need Democratic hispanics running as well as Wendy. The filibuster shone a light on the smart and savvy Democratic senators, and I hope they get to shine some more.

  41. 41.

    Redshift

    June 30, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    @Hawes: Actually, Howard Dean is giving it a try now, with a new Purple to Blue project. If anyone’s inclined to get involved in the states, please start this year with Virginia! My friend Jennifer Boysko is running for the House of Delegates in a district that Obama won easily.

  42. 42.

    Yatsuno

    June 30, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    @PsiFighter37: According to Betty BatBoy Scott is about as popular as tire rims and anthrax right now. He is definitely vulnerable to the right challenger if the Dems in FL can get their shit together and rally behind one person. Plus there are other examples of overreach that have hurt the state Repubs badly, so it could get really ugly really fast.

  43. 43.

    Violet

    June 30, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    @Redshift: Your links aren’t working for me.

  44. 44.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    June 30, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    @Violet: They don’t work for me either, and I’m not Redshift, but these should:

    DFA Purple to Blue Project

    DFA: Boysko for Delegate

    HTH.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  45. 45.

    Tokyokie

    June 30, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    @Violet: I agree. The Democrats’ problem right now is having an awfully short bench. Rick Noriega, Cornyn’s opponent in 2008, was a decent guy, but few had heard of him and he had no money. And if few people have heard of you, and you don’t have money to get your message out, you’re doomed as a candidate. Davis and Castro are a couple of politicians who’ve captured the public’s imagination, can probably raise the money to run credible campaigns, and happen to come from consituencies the GOP is trying to screw over.

  46. 46.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 30, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    @cdw:

    Democracy for America is planning a state-level turn America blue push. It’s time someone stepped up and who better than Howard and Jim Dean to get the job done?

    I’ve been getting emails from Jim Dean/DFA for ages, but it never occurred to me before now that he and Howard Dean are related (Wikipedia tells me he’s Howard’s brother, not son as I had first assumed.)

  47. 47.

    PsiFighter37

    June 30, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    @Yatsuno: Perhaps, but FL Dems managed to blow the 2010 race, so (and sorry ahead of time Betty) I don’t have a heck of a lot of faith in them…considering we haven’t win a gubernatorial election in nearly 20 years now.

  48. 48.

    gbear

    June 30, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    I read that piece about Christie and had forgotten that he vetoed a gay marriage bill that had been passed by the state house and senate and had 2/3 support of NJ voters. You’d think he might feel embarrassed – like he had fucked up – after the Supreme Court ruling, but apparently he’s an honest-to-god homophobe, not just playing one to gain conservative favor. What an asshole. What a fucking jerk. What a loser.

  49. 49.

    MomSense

    June 30, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    @Tokyokie: @Violet:

    I think there is another aspect to a Wendy Davis candidacy that would make her a successful in a run for Governor. There are a lot of Republican women, and evangelical Christian women who are closeted pro-choice supporters. Women who are quiet on the subject publicly may have had an abortion themselves, may have helped a friend, daughter or niece get an abortion. They may have a mother, sister, aunt, friend who died or was seriously injured by an illegal abortion.

    In the kinder, gentler Republican times the wives of Republican (male obvs!) candidates would signal that they may be pro-choice. Nancy Reagan, Barbara Bush, Laura Bush, etc all did this. It was a way of signaling to these women that their husbands may be publicly against abortion but that they weren’t actually going to let anything substantial threaten Roe v. Wade or access at the state level.

    I bet you that if Wendy Davis were on the ballot, you will see a bunch of crossover votes and after the fact they will look at the tallies and see the votes for Davis not matching up at all with the votes for Senator, Rep, and local races.

    I also think that there is now enough that is personal between Perry and Davis that her candidacy will bring out some real lunacy and it may drive a lot more protest voting by Republican women.

  50. 50.

    Yatsuno

    June 30, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    @PsiFighter37: That was partially because it was 2010 and the teatards were very angry. Very angry indeed. And really it was very close so I think it’s doable especially if Crist gets in there.

  51. 51.

    Violet

    June 30, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    @MomSense: Could be. I think that Republican women’s views on abortion have hardened in the ensuing years, too. And since Roe v Wade was decided in 1973, there are a lot of women who don’t know anyone who had an illegal abortion because legal ones were available. There are a lot of moms who aren’t old enough to remember back alley abortions. You’re talking about grandmothers now if you want to find someone who remembers that time.

    On Bill Maher’s show a few weeks ago there was some white woman (don’t know who she was) who talked about interning in some Republican Senator’s office in 1978. She told the woman she worked for that she wouldn’t be able to come back after lunch because she had to take a friend to get an abortion. And apparently the woman replied, “Of course you do, dear.” It was not only in the open, but okay with the woman running the office for the Republican Senator. That would never happen today. Times have changed.

    I could be wrong about all that. I just don’t know. I guess it depends how it’s framed. Something like “Your health choices should be between you and your doctor, not you and your elected politicians” might work better than something else.

  52. 52.

    beliebert

    June 30, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    I wish I could call myself a progressive but unfortunately sites like the orange satan posters around here like mistermix make that impossible without feeling embarassed about it.

    Ok she did something good. But to go from zero to calling for her running for senator or governor or whatever is just fucking dumb! That’s how progressives lose…almost always.

    You jump on these fucking bandwagons that are taking the stortest distance to the nearest cliff.

    The progressive highway is littered with the corpses of has been one time hero to the left politicians.

  53. 53.

    gene108

    June 30, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    @Violet:

    I could be wrong about all that. I just don’t know. I guess it depends how it’s framed. Something like “Your health choices should be between you and your doctor, not you and your elected politicians” might work better than something else.

    It’s not going to work.

    What makes the anti-abortion position so strong is that the message was delivered from the church pulpit. When you believe in a religion and the people tasked with bringing that religion to you decide ‘x’ is the proper course of action, it goes from a matter of logic and reason to a matter of faith that ‘x’ is either going to be good or bad depending on what the church leaders say on the matter.

    What needs to be done is highlight how the right-wing agenda of restricting abortions is going to impact the middle-class people, who have taken abortion rights for granted for a couple of generations, because a lot of what’s happening is going to impact the health of the mother when there’s a miscarriage that can’t be dealt with in a timely manner because it’d mean aborting the fetus to save the mother and abortion would be banned.

    Or maybe a few middle class women need to die in a hospital, before people wake up and realize the end goal of the right-wing anti-abortion agenda isn’t just to punish sluts, but all women who have complications in their pregnancy.

    Then again, in the USA today, it’s not like we can easily muster the political will to do crap, no matter how gruesome a national tragedy presents itself.

  54. 54.

    James E. Powell

    June 30, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    I would never discourage anyone from getting active in local politics. It’s not only one way to effect change, but it can be a very enriching experience. But more activists and more activity will not do much unless there is more money.

    The right-wingers, and in particular the anti-abortion forces, are able to get what they want because they receive major financial support from the ruling class. The Republicans know they cannot win without these rabid partisans, so the Republican money flows to their causes. With this money, they are able to develop a managerial class of political operators and to keep them in the game.

    There is nothing quite like that on the Democratic side.

  55. 55.

    trollhattan

    June 30, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    I’m as smitten as anybody by Wendy Davis, from two time zones away, but caution all who want her to be the Democratic savior of Texas, et al that her star has been shining a few short days and the Republican slimebots are just now sharpening their knives and digging, digging, digging for ways to fillet her on the dock. This is still Turdblossom’s turf and even if he has a lot of Texas Republican enemies, they’ll band together to kill Davis’ political future.

    In other news, the Prop 8 braintrust has already petitioned and been refused by Justice Kennedy to set aside the 9th District decision from Friday. These asshats CAN NOT BELIEVE they spent all that money for this giant sack of nothing.

  56. 56.

    Violet

    June 30, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    @gene108:

    Or maybe a few middle class women need to die in a hospital, before people wake up and realize the end goal of the right-wing anti-abortion agenda isn’t just to punish sluts, but all women who have complications in their pregnancy.

    I think this is exactly what has to happen. Sad but true.

  57. 57.

    trollhattan

    June 30, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    @beliebert:

    Stand with Rand Paul for President for you, line 2. Everybody on the planet loves them some hothouse flower.

  58. 58.

    ricky

    June 30, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    Geier’s piece is good? It posits a universally unarguable
    premise…politically active progressives should pay more attention to state and local…then uses nonsense to support it.

    Davis is a great example of the potentially large payoffs to progressives of diverting more activist energies away from national issues and towards the state and local elections ones.

    Davis is actually a bad example. She won the Democratic nomination in 2008 and renomonation uncontested. She beat Republicans by 7,000 votes in 2008 and 2012 largely because of the increased turnout among people voting in the Presidential election.

    Geier next argues that progressives focus on Presidential politics too much because “Americans have never tended to elect progressive Presidents” thus “burning” those progressives whose hopes (and presumably efforts) were proportinately misdirected. Forget that she offers no evidence to support the argument for too much Presidential or national focus or anyone getting ‘burned.” Look instead to the nonsense she offers up as evidence for the tendency
    to never elect a progressive President: 1) the electoral college, 2) the media, money, and “elites” who stop progressives before a primary vote is cast. And the shining examples she gives are Jesse Jackson and Dennis Kucinich.

  59. 59.

    WereBear

    June 30, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    @Violet: It’s not just that the Republicans have gotten more insane; it’s that the religions have, too.

    I wrote an essay for a site about escaping from the craziness that is Right Wing/Patriarchal Christianity. I escaped from 1970’s Southern Baptists; who look downright tame by comparison with what they are like now.

    I could wear a pantsuit to high school; as long as the top and bottom matched. Birth control was encouraged, after marriage, as a way of not having more children than we wanted or could afford. I attended a “Christian Academy” during 1973, when Roe v Wade was decided… and the Baptists had not one word to say about it. At that time, for Protestants, it was a total non-issue.

    As both the Republicans and the Baptists felt their grip slipping, they tightened their fist. They cannot attract new followers, they can only try to ensure the ones they have are too frightened to leave.

  60. 60.

    JoyfulA

    June 30, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    Pennsylvania is being saved, for now, from the utter destruction of Gov. Corbett’s intent to sell off state assets at a yard sale only because the GOP-controlled state senate and the GOP-controlled state house of representatives fight and can’t agree on bills to privatize the lottery and the liquor stores and raise the gas tax.

    Here in the red zone, everybody seems to despise the governor, judging by the right-wingers’ comments on the newspaper blog. No one speaks up for him, and I’ve seen “Corbutt” so often, I have to concentrate on spelling his name right.

  61. 61.

    gogol's wife

    June 30, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    @ricky:

    Thank you.

  62. 62.

    Nina

    July 1, 2013 at 8:00 am

    Julian Castro’s speech at the DNC was great – I remember the energy that I was feeling at the time, and turning to tell my husband that we were looking at the first Hispanic president of the United States. It was an echo of the feeling I got when Obama first addressed the DNC.

    Castro and Davis on the ticket together against Cornyn and Perry (in whatever combination) would be electrifying.

  63. 63.

    Sondra

    July 2, 2013 at 7:36 am

    I totally agree that local politics are most important right now. If anyone lives in the West Palm Beach area and wants to here a legislative update, one of our local Democratic clubs is having the following.

    legislative update provided by Representatives Bobby Powell and David Kerner

    When: Tuesday, July 9th

    6:30 PM

    Where: Ambrosia Restaurant

    1603 S Dixie Hwy

    (across from the Norton, 1/2 block south)
    West Palm Beach, FL 33401
    (561) 833 – 8280

    Free Parking – Great Food!
    (come for dinner or just the meeting)

    map at: http://www.wpbdems.org

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