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  2. 2.

    Trollhattan

    You go, sane Texas persons! At least we now know you exist.

    I hope goodhair chokes on his cornflakes.

  5. 5.

    max

    As one protester’s sign put it, “Texas may be open for business, but my business isn’t open for Texas.”

    Yeah, but this is the best sign.

    max
    [‘After all, Republicans are all about reversing the time arrow. They just aren’t that good at it.’]

  7. 7.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    @max:

    Great pic! Looks like those folks didn’t get the memo about how grayhairs are supposed to be in the Tea Party.

  10. 10.

    ruemara

    But I thought all us womens were happy to have some probes up our vaginas? You saying Jim DeMint could be wrong?

  15. 15.

    pokeyblow

    Texas is so excited about concealed-carry, they want to force women to do it.

  17. 17.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    @schrodinger’s cat: Last week’s protest color was orange. I don’t know for sure, but it probably had something to do with students from UT being there, and the school color is orange.

    It’s funny to me that both UT schools in the US, Texas and Tennessee, have orange as their school color.

  19. 19.

    feebog

    @ Redshirt:

    As I understand it, they have to start from square 1; introduce the bill in committee in each house, then bring it to the floor for debate and a vote. They can fast track the legislation in a special session, so it will only take a day or two for the entire process.

  21. 21.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    @BIBLE_DUDE1:

    Are you standing up for low cost/no cost prenatal and pediatric care? Are you standing up for affordable day care? Are you standing up for a living wage?

    If your answer to any of the above isn’t “yes” then you get busy and open a big can of STFU.

  23. 23.

    mds

    So, as usual, widespread public opposition and genunine mass demonstrations will be ignored, while fringe unpopular beliefs espoused by a handful of slobbering theocratic fuckwits in tricorner hats carry the day. And thanks to SCOTUS declaring open season on minority voters in Texas, no backlash at the ballot box for the perpetrators, though Senator Davis may finally get gerrymandered out. Ah, democracy.

  24. 24.

    Trollhattan

    @BIBLE_DUDE1:

    You go grrl–you and Nooners!

    NOONAN: I think it will pass in a — in a special session maybe on Monday or Tuesday. The aim — the bill does not specifically try to close abortion clinics; it says they have to meet certain medical standards in order to operate.

    (Which are impossible to meet. If Our Lady thinks this is a public-health debate, she’s nuttier than I think she is, and that boggles the mind.)

    NOONAN Here’s what — in the story of this young woman, she’s so spirited. You know, she has such energy and she seems to have such commitment.

    (Davis is 50-years old.)

    NOONAN But it seems to me — and I think it seems to many Americans — that what she is speaking for and standing for is something we would recognize as infanticide…

    (Nope. Not under the Constitution.)

    NOONAN…late-term abortion…

    (Incorrect. Shall me try again?)

    NOONAN…the taking of a little child’s life.

    (Sorry. Not a “little child.” Not according to the owner of your most revered foot, it isn’t. Thanks for playing, though.)

    NOONAN That is really, really serious. And so part of me thinks that this is a fabulous young woman, and part of me thinks, oh, my goodness, we’re celebrating something that even in Europe they call a matter of brutality and barbarism.

    And part of you is surrounded by twittering cartoon canaries who sing sweetly of the days when you and I were young, mother.

    http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/Spooks_And_Crooks_And_Gobshites

    Please, proceed.

  25. 25.

    kindness

    @BIBLE_DUDE1: I don’t think you understand what the word infanticide means. See, in order for it to be infanticide, the baby has to be born first, hence the word infant.

    See? That wasn’t so hard. No go away.

  27. 27.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    @BIBLE_DUDE1: Yeah, I’m against babies dying, especially from malnutrition or disease. I’m also against babies that grow up and end up dying because some people like war. Or babies that grow up and die early because they couldn’t afford to do the things that would help them live a long, productive life.

    As for something too undeveloped to function outside the womb, that’s not my choice. The life of the mother comes first.

  29. 29.

    becca

    No vote for you today, stupid gun-slinging dick-swingers of Tejas!

    Recess until July 9th., anyway.

  31. 31.

    Supernumerary Charioteer

    @BIBLE_DUDE1: Trying a little too hard there. I’ll give you a 7/10 for getting me at first, but until you can stick the landing, you won’t get a perfect score at the Troll Olympics.

  32. 32.

    billgerat

    Perry by recalling the Lege is just giving Wendy Davis a new platform to become his rival. Then again, Perry is not the most astute politician.

  33. 33.

    cvstoner

    If Scott Walker and his Wisconsin pals are a guide, then no amount of protesting will matter. But more power to ’em!

  35. 35.

    Felinious Wench

    @BIBLE_DUDE1: For God’s sake, man. From the CDC:

    88-92% of all abortions happen during the first trimester, prior to the 13th week of gestation (AGI/CDC).

    7% of all abortions were performed at 14-20 weeks’ gestation;

    1.3% were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation (CDC).

    So, only 1.3% of abortions would fall outside of the Texas law and qualify as “late term.”

    Mortality rate of these abortions, under the current law, not the new one that will shut down almost all clinics in the state?

    The pregnancy-associated mortality rate among women who delivered live neonates was 8.8 deaths per 100,000 live births. The mortality rate related to induced abortion was 0.6 deaths per 100,000 abortions. In the one recent comparative study of pregnancy morbidity in the United States, pregnancy-related complications were more common with childbirth than with abortion.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22270271

    So, just quit with the hyperbole. Legal abortion is safer in this country than childbirth, so that’s not the reason for this bill. ~98% of abortions occur prior to 20 weeks, so that’s not the reason for this bill. It’s simply to shut down abortion centers that are currently safe. No…other…reason.

    We’re not that stupid.

  37. 37.

    cvstoner

    @BIBLE_DUDE1:

    huh? you can drop off an “unwanted” baby at a hospital, no questions asked. no government handouts needed. sorry.

    Not much difference between that and the Handmaid’s Tale.

  38. 38.

    Kay

    @Trollhattan:

    The aim — the bill does not specifically try to close abortion clinics; it says they have to meet certain medical standards in order to operate.

    Well, unfortunately for Peggy Noonan, Texas women have actually been listening to conservative lawmakers, and conservatives admit the goal is to close clinics:

    After the State Senate passed a version of the bill last week, Mr. Dewhurst, who has called for overturning Roe v. Wade, the landmark Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion, posted a message on Twitter celebrating passage of the bill, known as Senate Bill 5. He wrote: “We fought to pass SB5 thru the Senate last night, & this is why!” Attached was a graphic produced by opponents of the bill that said the legislation would force many clinics to shut their doors.

    What always gets me about her is how she’s just wrong all the time. It’s pure laziness on her part. She reads nothing.

  39. 39.

    Mnemosyne

    @BIBLE_DUDE1:

    Tell that to women carrying a fetus with anencephaly. Not that you’ll ever click on that link, of course, because you don’t dare set a toe outside of your comfortable bubble where every fetus develops normally.

  41. 41.

    Soonergrunt

    @Kay: Once you accept that Nooners doesn’t give a damn about being right, just putting out a column and getting paid, it begins to make sense.

  42. 42.

    Citizen_X

    @BIBLE_DUDE1:

    I’m standing with the Texas women who are against infanticide.

    Yeah, Taliban Dude? Because I’m standing with my fellow Texans who say, “Mind your own damned business.”

  43. 43.

    Mnemosyne

    @BIBLE_DUDE1:

    huh? you can drop off an “unwanted” baby at a hospital, no questions asked. no government handouts needed. sorry.

    Who do you think pays for the care of that unwanted baby once it’s dropped off at the hospital, dumbass? The hospital gets government handouts to take care of it. The foster care agency gets government handouts to place it. The adoptive parents get a government handout to foster and adopt it.

    Unless your plan is to drop that unwanted baby in a dumpster and let it starve to death, there’s a whole lot of government handouts being given to support it after it’s dropped off. So, really, your “moral stance” is to force the mother give up the baby before the government starts paying.

  44. 44.

    MattR

    @BIBLE_DUDE1:

    “Are you standing up for low cost/no cost prenatal and pediatric care?”
    ——————
    huh? you can drop off an “unwanted” baby at a hospital, no questions asked. no government handouts needed. sorry.

    You probably should go look up what the word “prenatal” means.

    I am also curious what you think happens to the “unwanted” babies that get dropped of at the hospital. Aren’t government funds used to provide foster care?

  45. 45.

    ? Martin

    @Kay:

    Well, unfortunately for Peggy Noonan, Texas women have actually been listening to conservative lawmakers, and conservatives admit the goal is to close clinics

    Yeah, but more than that:

    The goal is to get government money out of the abortion process, and if contraceptive services have to suffer a bit of collateral damage in the process, so be it. When The Texas Tribune asked state Rep. Wayne Christian (R-Nacogdoches), a supporter of the family planning cuts, if this was a war on birth control, he said “yes.”

    “Well of course this is a war on birth control and abortions and everything — that’s what family planning is supposed to be about,” Christian said.

    Family planning clinics are routinely referred to by many Texas Republican legislators as “abortion clinics” even though none of the 71 family planning clinics in the state that receive government funding provides abortions. Texas and federal law prohibits that, but most women’s health clinics will refer women or teens who want an abortion to a provider.

    Birth control and abortions and everything related to family planning. Family planning is what God does, not what you do.

  47. 47.

    Brian R.

    Speaking of asshole Southern Republicans who are patronizing women, Mitch McConnell just got a solid opponent today in Alison Grimes. His response was to pat her on the head and call her “courageous” for daring to disrespect his authoritah and run against him.

    Pissed off? Donate to her campaign here.

  48. 48.

    Trollhattan

    @Kay:

    Theory has it she’s memorized the fine print on several brands of gin labels, but I can neither confirm nor deny. She can clearly crawl completely inside a gin bottle, much like one of Larson’s boneless chickens.

    Have never been a watcher of the Sunday “news” shows so my wish they’d all be killed off for good is a hollow one, but still….

  49. 49.

    Mnemosyne

    @MattR:

    I’m pretty sure the standard definition of “Christianist” is “someone who’s never bothered to think through the consequences of their decisions.”

  51. 51.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    @Mnemosyne: Of course BIBLE_DUDE1 has thought of the consequences. He goes and prays for forgiveness every time he has gotten a woman pregnant, then all is good.

  54. 54.

    Kay

    @? Martin:

    And then we have to get into the whole income/class issue. Upper and middle class women will still get abortions after this, but upper and middle class women are less likely to need one, because abortion rate is tied to access to birth control. It’s a double hit for poor women and especially poor women who live in rural areas.

    One of the interesting things to me about the WoW is that it transcends class. We saw it with Komen. The whole outrage was that poor women wouldn’t get cancer prevention, because they’re the people who use clinics. That’s pretty rare in US politics, that kind of solidarity.

  55. 55.

    Brian R.

    @MattR:

    I am also curious what you think happens to the “unwanted” babies that get dropped of at the hospital. Aren’t government funds used to provide foster care?

    No, no. The social workers at child services, and the entire foster care system is paid entirely by prayer. As is the total cost of the medical care provided by those hospitals where Bible Dumbass thinks we should just drop them off.

    You’d know all this if you were a dipshit, see?

  56. 56.

    Trollhattan

    @David in NY:

    Pretty much the quality level of UNLIMITED CORPORATE CASH, which makes me wonder how s/he/it is paying the single-wide bills these days.

  57. 57.

    El Tiburon

    My office is about 5 blocks from all of this. Yet in my office here I sit.

  58. 58.

    gene108

    @BIBLE_DUDE1:

    I’m standing with the Texas women who are against infanticide.

    A bold stand my friend. A bold, bold stand, as I think pretty much all Texas women – pro-choice and anti-choice – are against infanticide.

    I may even become as bold as you and take a stand with those, who feel indoor plumbing is preferable to outhouses, one of these days, when I work up the courage to express my convictions.

  59. 59.

    Roger Moore

    @Kay:

    Well, unfortunately for Peggy Noonan, Texas women have actually been listening to conservative lawmakers, and conservatives admit the goal is to close clinics:

    The problem is that the internet makes it much harder for conservatives to talk out of both sides of their mouths. They used to be able to tell their supporters they were trying to shut down clinics and keep it quiet enough that they could deny it in public and have people believe them. Now, when they tell one story in private and another in public, the private story is likely to leak out and make them look like liars. They still haven’t adapted.

  60. 60.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    @Kay: There was some woman on twitter during the filibuster who wrote “I don’t see what the problem is. I drive over a hundred miles to get to something that’s not that important.” I had to reply “Not every woman has the same opportunities you do.” Empathy has nothing to do with chromosomes.

  61. 61.

    Forum Transmitted Disease

    Tell that to women carrying a fetus with anencephaly. Not that you’ll ever click on that link, of course, because you don’t dare set a toe outside of your comfortable bubble where every fetus develops normally.

    @Mnemosyne: Ain’t even human. Christ, that is a sad fucking link. One that ought to be taught in every school in the land.

  62. 62.

    Forum Transmitted Disease

    Tell that to women carrying a fetus with anencephaly. Not that you’ll ever click on that link, of course, because you don’t dare set a toe outside of your comfortable bubble where every fetus develops normally.

    @Mnemosyne: Ain’t even human. Christ, that is a sad fucking link. One that ought to be taught in every school in the land.

  63. 63.

    danah gaz

    @BIBLE_DUDE1: Well then, clearly you’re at the wrong protest.

    You see, this has nothing to do with infants.

    Words, they mean things, cupcake.

  66. 66.

    Seanly

    I like the picutre of the umbrella with the wording: “If only my uterus could shoot bullets, then it wouldn’t need regulation.”

    Good luck to the progressives and women of Texas.

  67. 67.

    rikyrah

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent):

    There was some woman on twitter during the filibuster who wrote “I don’t see what the problem is. I drive over a hundred miles to get to something that’s not that important.” I had to reply “Not every woman has the same opportunities you do.” Empathy has nothing to do with chromosomes

    1. it’s not only the drive…and some people don’t have cars.
    2. it’s also the waiting period. a poor woman doesn’t have multiple days that she can take off for the waiting period.

  68. 68.

    ? Martin

    @Kay: I don’t know. There’s a stunning degree of solidarity among white males with plenty of poor-ass guys in single-wide’s lining up to vote for anything the white male vulture capitalist tells them is good for them. Solidarity, in my view, lines up along power structure lines and how people primarily identify themselves (ethnicity, sexuality, class, and so on). What the GOP is now risking, with gays and minorities generally gaining some ground in power structure at the expense of the GOP, is by pushing women down that allegiances there will shift. That more and more white women are identifying more strongly as women than as white or straight or whatever other in-group the GOP protected. Once that happens, look out. The GOP will lose a fuckton of their base in a hurry and they won’t even see it coming.

  69. 69.

    MattR

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent): I was just in a conversation with a conservative who was arguing that the postal service wasn’t necessary anymore because all he gets is junk mail now that all his bills, etc are online.

    @Brian R.: Ahh, right. Now I remember why I always wanted to be a dipshit – you can hallucinate an alternate reality without having to pay for drugs.

  70. 70.

    bemused

    @Kay:

    Why in the world they want the section of the population they hate so much to produce babies like rabbits and increase the number of the “undeserving” is beyond me.

  71. 71.

    Lolis

    @El Tiburon:

    No way! An Austinite. I have noticed most firebaggers don’t seem to concerned about women’s issues.

    I went today before I had to go to work, what a scene. Most enthused, largest crowd I’ve ever seen at the Capitol. Pretty exciting. I am going to keep doing what I can because even if we lose, this is laying the groundwork for good things in Texas.

  72. 72.

    ? Martin

    Don’t taze shoot me, bro nana.

    An 11-year old West Virginia boy is dead after a bullet from a gun his grandmother fired to scare off suspected intruders went astray, the local sheriff said, according to WBOY.

    The boy, William Owens, was lying in his bed in his house about 200 feet from his grandmother’s house when the grandmother took a .40 caliber pistol outside and fired multiple shots to scare off the intruders. One of the bullets from her gun went through the wall into Owen’s house and struck him in the chest, WBOY reported, citing the local sheriff.

    Clearly the solution is more guns.

  74. 74.

    ? Martin

    @rikyrah:

    1. it’s not only the drive…and some people don’t have cars.
    2. it’s also the waiting period. a poor woman doesn’t have multiple days that she can take off for the waiting period.

    And how many women work hourly jobs? 100 miles is at least 4 hours unpaid just for the drive. Can you get the time off? It’s easy for me – I’m salaried – I ask for a day off, I get it, I do my thing, I still get paid. Doesn’t work that way at WalMart.

  75. 75.

    ? Martin

    @Lolis:

    I have noticed most firebaggers don’t seem to concerned about women’s issues

    They care about messaging, about saying the right thing to the right people (them). They don’t care about policy.

  77. 77.

    Chris

    @BIBLE_DUDE1:

    I’m standing with the Texas women who are against infanticide.

    You’re against needless wars? And reductions in the social services that poor women who “choose life” will desperately need in order to keep their babies alive and healthy?

    Whattaguy!

  78. 78.

    Tone in DC

    Yeah, but more than that:

    The goal is to get government money out of the abortion process, and if contraceptive services have to suffer a bit of collateral damage in the process, so be it. When The Texas Tribune asked state Rep. Wayne Christian (R-Nacogdoches), a supporter of the family planning cuts, if this was a war on birth control, he said “yes.”

    “Well of course this is a war on birth control and abortions and everything — that’s what family planning is supposed to be about,” Christian said.

    Family planning clinics are routinely referred to by many Texas Republican legislators as “abortion clinics” even though none of the 71 family planning clinics in the state that receive government funding provides abortions. Texas and federal law prohibits that, but most women’s health clinics will refer women or teens who want an abortion to a provider.


    Birth control and abortions and everything related to family planning. Family planning is what God does, not what you do.

    These people are worse than I thought.

  79. 79.

    Betty Cracker

    @Yatsuno: I was thinking the same thing. A concern trolling strategy would garner more responses than a straight-up “baybee killers!” approach.

  80. 80.

    Trollhattan

    @? Martin:
    Crap, that’s awful. I don’t suppose anybody is going to disarm grandma, or do anything more than “tut-tut.”

    In other gun-fuondler news, the fetishists’ secret hero Adam Lanza’s story gets more creepy with every overturned stone.

    Although the Courant declines to reveal the user name authorities believe belonged to Lanza, a simple Google search of the quoted sections indicates that he went by the handle “Kaynbred” on sites like TheHighRoad(dot)org and GlockTalk(dot)com.

    “In Connecticut, fully automatic firearms are legal to own but selective fire is prohibited,” he wrote in one post. “I vaguely recall reading ~1 year ago about a company which alters them to fire exclusively automatically (or something in that vein), but I do not know how that process works. For example, with whom would I correspond to modify a Title II M2 Carbine that is currently in another state to fire fully automatically before it is sent to Connecticut?”

    Elsewhere, Kaynbred said, “I always prefer asking through proxy when I can avoid speaking to someone directly. I was just wondering if anyone knew because I have a fetish for .32 ACP,” a reference to specific ammunition.

    The same user name was a regular player of the first-person shooter game Combat Arms, where Lanza clocked 83,496 kills in 4,901 matches.

    But maybe most frightening are Lanza’s edits to the Wikipedia entries of large-scale killings, including the Dawson College shooting, where Kaynbred corrected “.9mm” to “9mm” and then made a joke about the weapon’s strength:

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/07/adam-lanza-kaynbred-guns-wikipedia.html

  82. 82.

    BIBLE_DUDE1

    great, i’m being called a “rtoll’ and insulted for expressing my opionions.

    I’m sure I wouldn’t be subjected to this if i was a woman/’minority’.

  86. 86.

    Citizen_X

    “Well of course this is a war on birth control and abortions and everything — that’s what family planning is supposed to be about,” Christian said.

    What the fuck does that even mean? Fucking Palin effect. Could we get conservatives whose brains haven’t turned to mush, please?

  89. 89.

    Yatsuno

    @BIBLE_DUDE1: You do realise, according to the Bible, that a pregnancy is not considered a life until birth yes? And that the churches didn’t care one bit about abortion until Jimmy Carter started threatening their tax-exempt status and Saint Ronaldus Magnus needed something to whip up the Christian horde? You’re being used and you don’t even care. How precious.

  91. 91.

    Baud

    @BIBLE_DUDE1:

    great, i’m being called a “rtoll’ and insulted for expressing my opionions.

    I’m sure I wouldn’t be subjected to this if i was a woman/’minority’.

    You probably wouldn’t be an “rtoll” if you were a woman/minority.

  92. 92.

    scav

    Won’t those uppity voters ever shut up and want / do what their Political (R) Representatives and Bible Pushers tell them they want? Don’t they know it’s only a BiPartisan Democracy if EveryOne does as they Say? Compromise and Shut Up! Obey!

  93. 93.

    Mnemosyne

    @BIBLE_DUDE1:

    Hey, it’s not our fault that you thought no “government handouts” went to a baby dropped off at the hospital. What did you think, they dropped it in the incinerator so it wouldn’t be a burden on taxpayers?

  94. 94.

    Forum Transmitted Disease

    great, i’m being called a “rtoll’ and insulted for expressing my opionions.

    I’m sure I wouldn’t be subjected to this if i was a woman/’minority’.

    @BIBLE_DUDE1: You see what happened to that “Angry Black Lady” that used to post here? Rest assured, we’re not singling you out for your race or sex.

    We’re singling you out because you’re a Christian.

  95. 95.

    quannlace

    “’m standing with the Texas women who are against infanticide.”
    ****

    Rick Perry in drag?

  96. 96.

    Kay

    @? Martin:

    Right, but with Komen (IMO) it wasn’t so much “women” it was cancer. That’s what it sounded like to me, reading cancer survivors comments. They have this thing in common, where they’re bound by fighting cancer. Komen was acting to exclude poor women from detection/ diagnosis. That was my take on what the execs misunderstood about the anger.

  97. 97.

    Kay

    @? Martin:

    To test it we’d need some charity where the issue primarily is mens health, where upper and middle class men sort of rally around poor men and say “they need cancer treatment too!”
    I can’t think of one right off the top of my head. Not that this HASN’T HAPPENED :)

  98. 98.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    I stand with Texas women. When I was younger I’d lay down with them sometimes too.

  99. 99.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    @BIBLE_DUDE1:

    great, i’m being called a “rtoll’ and insulted for expressing my opionions.

    Can you use fastpass to pay a “rtoll”, or only a credit card?

  101. 101.

    joel hanes

    @Kay:

    Komen was grifting. The exec pay kept climbing; the payouts to actual cancer research kept diminishing — so when the foundation proposed to cut the funding for cancer screening for poor women, there really was no justification left for the foundation’s continued existence except to enrich the executive staff.

  102. 102.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    @joel hanes:

    … there really was no justification left for the foundation’s continued existence except to enrich the executive staff.

    C’mon, this is America. They felt that that was justification enough.

  103. 103.

    burnspbesq

    @BIBLE_DUDE1:

    Fine. Stand over there in the corner so you don’t get in the way of sensible adults trying to make sensible policy.

  104. 104.

    burnspbesq

    @mds:

    And thanks to SCOTUS declaring open season on minority voters in Texas, no backlash at the ballot box for the perpetrators, though Senator Davis may finally get gerrymandered out.

    None of that has to happen if whiners like you will get off your asses and participate.

  105. 105.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    @MikeJ:

    The more insidious problem is the Dominionists. They think that The Handmaid’s Tale is an instruction manual.

  106. 106.

    scav

    @MikeJ: So Many of the moral betters are faster to protect a buck than a living child Dolan Sought Vatican Permission to Shield Assets

    However, the files released Monday contain a letter he wrote to the Vatican in 2007, in which he explained that by transferring the assets, “I foresee an improved protection of these funds from any legal claim and liability.”

    The Vatican moved swiftly to approve the request, the files show, even though it often took years to remove known abusers from the priesthood.

    Assets trump (child’s) Asses and Priests over Parishioners. Fetuses trump Females.

    It’s All in their Magic Book: Trust the ones waving it hardest, Warrantee no longer valid if you break the seal and try to read it yourself.

  107. 107.

    p.a.

    Do Not Feed the Troll. 1) this one is so craptastic it should be a put-on. 2) if not a put-on then it has no interest in an actual discussion and is just a…Troll. 3) why is no one ever ‘TorahDude’ or ‘KoranDude’. Now ‘KamaSutraChick’ I would give a listen to!

  109. 109.

    Jay C

    @Baud:

    You probably wouldn’t be an “rtoll” if you were a woman/minority.

    Both of which groups do know how to use spellcheck, btw….

  111. 111.

    ? Martin

    @Citizen_X:

    What the fuck does that even mean? Fucking Palin effect. Could we get conservatives whose brains haven’t turned to mush, please?

    I explained what that means. Only God has the power to deny you a baby. Men were made big and strong and with this pokey-thing to stick it in whoever we pleased. If God approves, you get progeny. If God does not, then it was just a wasted slap and tickle, try again. We’re more civilized now, so you wait until you get married to do that, or until you’re confronted with a woman wearing revealing clothing or who is a feminist, both of which are code for ‘stick it in me even if I say no’.

    But birth control and all that family planning business is an incursion on Gods sovereignty here.

  112. 112.

    ? Martin

    @Kay:

    I can’t think of one right off the top of my head. Not that this HASN’T HAPPENED :)

    Hasn’t happened – even though far more people die from prostate cancer than breast cancer. Marketing campaigns for penîses are notoriously irregular.

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    Trollhattan

    @? Martin:

    Is this the condensed version of the Genesis story about how God invented hockey? Lots of high-sticking going on.

  115. 115.

    Kay

    @joel hanes:

    Right, I get that, but how that came out was women said “why are you cutting poor women out of this group?”

    I just felt that real strongly, that the charity was ruined for participants if it wasn’t ALL women. I thought it was great. I wonder if it was because the thing was set up so they were actually doing something (a walk) rather than just sending money. I got invited to explain a part of the health care bill to a cancer survivor group. They talk A LOT about how much it costs, bankruptcy, etc.

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    Brian R.

    @BIBLE_DUDE1:

    great, i’m being called a “rtoll’ and insulted for expressing my opionions.

    Opi-Onions are what Aunt Bea used to serve in Mayberry, right?

    And you’re being insulted because your opinions are stupid, starting with your claim that the abortion of a 20-week fetus is somehow “infanticide.” Words have meanings, dipshit, and until you learn what those are, we’ll mock you for it.

  117. 117.

    maya

    @BIBLE_DUDE1:

    I’m sure I wouldn’t be subjected to this if i was a woman/’minority’.

    If I was a carpenter
    and you were a lady,
    could I nail you anyway,
    would you hosp-drop my baby?

    Say, that bible thingy you’re dooding for, does it have prOn in it?
    And isn’t J H Christ bible dude #1`? Obviously, humility has no place in your particular Xianity.

  118. 118.

    Mnemosyne

    @? Martin:

    Don’t get me started on how poor Michael Douglas tried to impart some important public health information (anyone could get HPV-related throat cancer from oral sex) and got drowned out in the chorus of titters as grown-ass adults speculating about who gave Douglas HPV rather than saying, Holy shit, we’d better make sure everyone gets that anti-HPV vaccine, then!

  119. 119.

    nineone

    @BIBLE_DUDE1:

    I’m sure I wouldn’t be subjected to this if i was a woman/’minority’.

    No, because you are standing with the motherfuckers who treat women/minorities like trolls and insulted for having an opinion. And while you’re whinging on about your hurt fee-fees, people (Yes, I know it’s just Those People) ARE HAVING THEIR FUCKING RIGHTS TAKEN AWAY!

    I’d say, right now, their complaints trump yours. Anything about humanity and compassion in that book you and your ilk keep thumpin’ in our faces? Or is that the tl;dr part you skip over to get to the slut shaming?

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    Roger Moore

    @Citizen_X:

    Could we get conservatives whose brains haven’t turned to mush, please?

    Not likely. If their brains hadn’t turned to mush, they wouldn’t be conservatives.

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    Groucho48

    The protest got no coverage on the evening news. If there had been a Tea Party demonstration that large and it didn’t get any coverage, the internet would be straining to provide the bandwidth needed to transmit all the /outrage, /whining /victimization rants by every right winger in the country.

  124. 124.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    @BIBLE_DUDE1:

    Oh man, c’mon! This is some of the lamest trolling I have ever seen. A Redstate link in your name and short, non-wingnutty-like lines rather than the typical ranting (with misspells!) do not make Jack a Teahadist wingnut.

    -4/10

    Get with it man, I know you can do better!

  125. 125.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    And Now Brothers and Sisters, open your hymnals to hymn number 99,999, I Am the Way. Brother Loudon Wainwright III has graciously agreed to lead us. Everybody sing!

  127. 127.

    raven

    He blesses the boys as they stand in line
    The smell of gun grease and the bayonets they shine
    He’s there to help them all that he can
    To make them feel wanted he’s a good holy man

    fuck em all and their bullshit god

  130. 130.

    fuckwit

    When it comes to the right-wing victim phenomenon. I think I’ve found a theme.

    They’re entitled little shits. With big-time mommy issues. There’s my amateur armchair psychiatry for the day. But I don’t see a better explanation.

    These are like what Cartman would be like as an adult. Mommy let them get away with whatever they wanted, and spoiled them, because they were her precious little angels, and could do no wrong. And now, they feel entitled to having everyone– particularly every woman– treat them that way too.

    I think they really do feel victimized by not being treated like the royalty they think they are, and having their privilege challenged.

    There could be more to it than that, but I doubt it. It’s just privilege and entitlement, and there’s no paradox at all with that being associated with a victim complex– when you’re used to having your ass kissed, it’s hard not to feel wounded when it stops.

  131. 131.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    @trollhattan:

    But I lurves me some Eric Burdon anyhoo.

    One of the best live shows I ever saw was Eric Burdon with War in San Antonio back around 1969.

  132. 132.

    fuckwit

    @Kay: First they came for your Roe vs. Wade, then they came for your Griswold vs. Connecticut.

  133. 133.

    RaflW

    @Scotius:

    I would think women of childbearing age and gays would want to think long and hard before relocating to Texas.

    No shit.

    I live in MN, land of free marriage (with a fee of course) as of Aug 1. There’s no possible salary number any employer could offer me to move back to Texas now. I mean, I love Austin, but the state damn near burnt up last summer, and now I can live in relative liberty in 13 US states.

    But not the Republic of Assholery.

  135. 135.

    Faux News

    @BIBLE_DUDE1: Oh please back in the day of Fucked Company (circa 1999) with Pud at the helm we had REAL Trolls! The type that were believable and funny at the same time. Even your username is a weak effort. I give your trolling 3/10 on a Fucked Company Scale. Begone!

  136. 136.

    RaflW

    Major tell in Bible_Dingus using quotes around minority.

    How I read that is he doesn’t actually believe that minorities are deserving of recognition. Women he at least acknowledges are real. But ‘minorities’ are a phantom of librulism.

  139. 139.

    Hugely

    @Faux News: whoa blast from the past! is that the one that flashole would always promote flash as a way to jazz up a corporate website?

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