Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Mediocre white men think RFK Jr’s pathetic midlife crisis is inspirational. The bar is set so low for them, it’s subterranean.

Compromise? There is no middle ground between a firefighter and an arsonist.

The republican caucus is covering themselves with something, and it is not glory.

“Facilitate” is an active verb, not a weasel word.

No Kings: Americans standing in the way of bad history saying “Oh, Fuck No!”

… riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact

It’s a good piece. click on over. but then come back!!

The rest of the comments were smacking Boebert like she was a piñata.

“They all knew.”

You would normally have to try pretty hard to self-incriminate this badly.

When do we start airlifting the women and children out of Texas?

The snowflake in chief appeared visibly frustrated when questioned by a reporter about egg prices.

Be a wild strawberry.

This year has been the longest three days of putin’s life.

In my day, never was longer.

My right to basic bodily autonomy is not on the table. that’s the new deal.

The unpunished coup was a training exercise.

Find someone who loves you the way trump and maga love traitors.

It’s the corruption, stupid.

Their shamelessness is their super power.

… gradually, and then suddenly.

Disappointing to see gov. newsom with his finger to the wind.

We cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation.

if you can’t see it, then you are useless in the fight to stop it.

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  1. 1.

    Joseph Nobles

    Alas, this is the only way I can read Billmon these days. He blocked me for calling Snowden a clown show. My only consolation is that the evidence keeps piling up.

  2. 2.

    Brother Machine Gun of Desirable Mindfulness (fka AWS)

    I am in the midst of a slow-motion romantic relationship break-up, and it’s going to last at least another week. Ugh.

  3. 3.

    askew

    This Snowden/Greenwald saga is getting downright bizarre. Greenwald is going on Fox & Friends tomorrow to rip Obama again. Ecuador is now throwing Snowden and possibly Assange under the bus. This is going to make a great HBO miniseries someday.

  4. 4.

    srv

    I see Jesus’ General snarking at GG’s twitter, worried since he stopped blogging due to illness.

  8. 8.

    Big R

    @Brother Machine Gun of Desirable Mindfulness (fka AWS): You probably can’t pull the trigger because you keep hoping they’ll come to their senses. They won’t. Or maybe they already have, which is why you’re breaking up. Either way, you’ll get on with the morning and healing process sooner the sooner you actually end it. And waiting for that other shoe so long will make it a kind of a relief when it finally drops. But I’m sorry. It’s hard to go through that. I ought to know.

  11. 11.

    Suzanne

    @Yatsuno: I hope so. She still isn’t strong enough to leave the sink, though. She’s been hanging out there for the last week. Hopefully she’ll be up to walking around soon.

  12. 12.

    danah gaz

    Emily Gaz: So it’s just better to hit him already instead of making a plan! – our kid, on the difference between assault 1 and assualt 2.
    I told him that isn’t what I’m trying to teach him. He just giggles.

    Danah Gaz: Emily! Stop it!

    Emily Gaz: We are horrible parents. Really, really horrible parents.

    Danah Gaz: You did this. Just sayin’. You. Not me.

    Emily Gaz: Who told him kids get high off deodorant? Who taught him to argue against any rules by saying that we boss him around because of our white privilege? Who taught him that Hitler loved dogs and sucked at art? You did this.

    Danah Gaz: I did NOT tell the kid he could get high off of deodorant! He learned that shit at school. I told him nutmeg. And the rest of it… well yeah… but it’s ALL TRUE! (Oh and hitler was a mediocre painter, he mostly did okay, except for faces)

    Emily Gaz: (Quoting Kid Gaz) You know who *else* was the worst [parent] in history!! – our kid, on our failure as parents

    Danah Gaz: well, he *was* a pretty bad parent…

  13. 13.

    Brother Machine Gun of Desirable Mindfulness (fka AWS)

    @Big R: @Suzanne: thanks. I’m replaying “les miserables” over and over tonight, if that gives any indication how much this hurts.

  21. 21.

    piratedan

    should be fun times on Faux and friends as each of them try to outdisdain each other for the loathing antipathy of regard and contempt that they hold the administration in. How they wish they could return to the manly halcyon days of Bush the Lesser, when evil was black and good was white and God was on their collective shoulders, alas, heady days those were…. I just wonder how many out there are going to make their collective saving throws as we leap from crumbly precipice to unsteady outcropping with nary a concern for dot connection or logical application of facts and deeds.

  23. 23.

    danah gaz

    @piratedan: getting my gender markers changed with the SS office before the swing state voters mess up the next election and the next pig administration ruins my chance.

    I’m not looking forward to a Republican president, I’m not so sure Hillary will run either.

  24. 24.

    Emerald

    @askew: It’s nearly time the PLs and the right wingers melded. They have a common ODS base, after all.

  31. 31.

    Steve Crickmore

    Obama’s cynicism continues to be breathtaking but the focus, even from Balloon Juice is on ‘the warts and all’, of the leakers and the free press, and not Obama and his groupthink, slightly duplicitious, administration, the polar opposite we were promised.

    Obama:

    On Snowden’s leaks about US spying on NATO allies: “the problem is that these things come out in dribs and drabs. We don’t know necessarily what programs they’re referring to, we don’t know how they’re sourced. And so, what I’ve said is, to my team, take a look at this article, figure out what they may or may not be talking about, and then what we’ll do is we’ll communicate to our allies appropriately.” In other words, he needs to calibrate his cover-up based on whether Snowden knows about that thing they did, or about those other things they did. If you just, you know, told the truth, you wouldn’t need your “team” to do all that heavy analysis of the Snowden leaks.

  33. 33.

    Steve Crickmore

    @raven That is exactly the response the neocons now, cross Obama wants for our friends. So much for ‘winning the hearts and minds’ and the Nobel Prize for Peace.

  35. 35.

    different-church-lady

    @Steve Crickmore: In other words, it’s not groupthink that bothers you so much as it is that people don’t embrace the same groupthink you have.

  36. 36.

    raven

    “The European Commission will sweep its offices for electronic listening devices and other security breaches, a spokeswoman said Monday.”

    Stupid fuckers are going to do it NOW!

  37. 37.

    Thlayli

    Via LGF, statement by Whiny Little Shit:

    The Obama administration has now adopted the strategy of using citizenship as a weapon. Although I am convicted of nothing, it has unilaterally revoked my passport, leaving me a stateless person.

    Firstly, nothing has happened to your citizenship. You just changed from a citizen with a passport to a citizen without a passport.

    Numero two-o, the passport itself reads: “This passport is the property of the United States Government. Upon demand made by an authorized representative of the United States Government, it must be surrendered.” The State Department has 100% discretion over who can and can’t have a passport. There was no violation of rights here.

  38. 38.

    Steve Crickmore

    The groupthink is the lying or perjury is fine if you are a senior member of the adminsitration i.e Clapper, or if you smear the leakers, as the administration has tried to that is o’kay but if you expose those state lies by telling the truth, even heavily redacted, as a leaker, you are a traitor. Why even bother with two and half year presidential campaign if the candidate does the exact opposite of what he said his missión as a transcendent polltician was, when he comes into office; Obama often stated multilateral approach to his allies, not just in spying targets, new government ethics, transparency, “whistleblowers are patriotic”, all themes which ring very hollow and false in hindsight.

  41. 41.

    Kay

    @? Martin:

    There’s more to that story, too. At the time of the “don’t touch my junk” story, the TSA workers were reaching the end game of a long fight to unionize.

    They actually did unionize in August of 2012. It took years and years. I’m surprised the writer of that piece didn’t include it, because he specifically mentions “labor rights”. Maybe he didn’t or doesn’t know.

    When Bush formed the TSA that was the GOP’s one and only objection, that TSA workers would join a union.

    I still wonder about the timing of “don’t touch my junk”, honestly.

  45. 45.

    Steve Crickmore

    @amk: @amk: No, I put a lot of energy into saying that Obama was a better candidate than Hillary , the old politics and represented a new departure the way Washington worked. I really thought that Obama had enough healthy skepticm and intellect to overcome all the establishment blandishments. You remember the differences. Hillary had a record of being untruthful and Obama would engage our allies and talk with our enemies, now it seems our ‘friends’ will be suspicious of talking with him. Why wouldn’t they be?

  46. 46.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    @? Martin:

    Mark Ames FTW!

    Thanks for the link. I can go to bed with a smile on my face.

  47. 47.

    geg6

    Jeebus, is this Crickmore dude twelve years old or something? Yeah, Obama said he’d open all top secret files because TRANSPARENCY!11!

    I hate to be the one to break it to you, but not only has the US spied on our allies and they spied on us (does the name Jonathan Pollard ring any bells?) but so has it always been and ever will it be. And they won’t be doing it in the open where we can all see.

  50. 50.

    Kay

    @Thlayli:

    I don’t understand “exiled”. He’s both the subject of a manhunt and also exiled?
    They want to bring him back, obviously. It’s the opposite of “exiled”
    I know this is PR – for public consumption, part of what he considers a defense strategy, and I’m okay with that, I don’t think it will WORK but what the hell, why not, but it’s so far out there, “stateless”, “exiled”, none of these things are accurate.
    Who is it directed to? The countries he’s appealing to ( heads of state) know what these terms mean.

  51. 51.

    Linda Featheringill

    My comment was eaten. Very sad. It was wise and wonderful and full of human warmth and stuff.

    Sob!

    [FYWP]

  52. 52.

    Ben Cisco

    @Kay:

    Who is it directed to? The countries he’s appealing to ( heads of state) know what these terms mean.

    Indeed; he’s aiming squarely for those individuals who don’t know what those terms mean (or are willing to ingore what those terms mean).

  53. 53.

    Ken J.

    Digression, particularly for @annelaurie: my Twitter obsession has been the 10-week fallout from the Michelle Shocked kerfuffle in San Francisco on March 17. @mshocked, and from a string search on that handle you can probably figure out who the Twitter voices of sanity are.

    I have lost the ability to listen to the album “Short Sharp Shocked” with the joy it used to bring.

  54. 54.

    Kay

    @Ben Cisco:

    These countries have their own laws. They’re not just winging it on a case by case basis. At some point a compelling narrative doesn’t matter. At some point it’s lawyers sitting around a room saying “stateless? well, no, not really”

    He’s already been through this. HK very carefully parsed their statement right down the middle, they made no claim as to the “political exception”, they refused to give him a specific legal status as to extradition. They did a lot of handwaving and sent him on his way.

  58. 58.

    Xenos

    @raven:

    Stupid fuckers are going to do it NOW!

    There is no point in having listening devices at the EC. Nobody ever stops talking there.

    I suppose it might be full of German, British, and French listening devices, however.

  59. 59.

    John S.

    @? Martin:

    Don’t let John Cole catch wind of that piece. I’m not sure he can handle what a piece of shit Greenwald really is.

  60. 60.

    Botsplainer

    @amk:

    Poor Special Ed. He fucked up and trusted Greenwald’s inept lawyering, Assange’s ego, and the competence of shithead hacker collective wikiliki.

    ROFLMAO

  61. 61.

    debbie

    @raven:

    When someone starts the conversation off by saying, “Everyone knows that everyone spies on everyone else, but…,” you know you’ve entered the Silly Season.

  62. 62.

    Sibling Nonspecific Firearm of Random Adjective Followed by a Noun That Describes a Mental State (fka AWS)

    Who had less than 8 hours? :P

  64. 64.

    the Conster

    @? Martin:

    Great article. Mark Ames really nails Greenwald’s shtick and makes his cult followers look like the organ grinder monkeys they are.

    “His “Jesus Snowden” framing is collapsing; his half-baked libertarian politics framing the leaks are creating more problems than solving; he’s picked more vindictive and petty fights with journalists who would normally support Greenwald, including yet another Nation writer, historian Rick Perlstein, because Greenwald can’t take criticism without seeing Orwellian government plots behind everything.”

  65. 65.

    FlipYrWhig

    Every one of these Snowden statements sounds like he’s straining to split the difference between Rorschach and V.

  66. 66.

    Ben Cisco

    @Kay: Acutally, I meant that the comments were for local consumption – as you said, the other countries have people that know what they’re doing; only the Snowden fluffers would take what he says and run with it.

  67. 67.

    polyorchnid octopunch

    @Suzanne: I’m reminded of something a friend told when I was going through a nasty breakup: “Yeah, but if it didn’t end badly, it wouldn’t end.”

  68. 68.

    fuckwit

    @Thlayli: Obama’s dad got into the same kind of hot water, and for the same kind of entitled schtick. He was mouthing off about his government, pissed them off, got fired, got blacklisted, he couldn’t get a job, and when he tried to leave the country, whomever he pissed offf in Kenya revoked his passport. So he got stuck there, running out of money, relying on his dad’s name to get by. He died without much of anything left.

    What not too many people realize, is that even though our President came from humble American beginnings (son of a single mother, never knew his dad, raised by his grandparents, etc) his grandfather was something of a towering figure in Kenya, and his dad grew up there as a spoiled rich kid from a prominent family, and died there somewhat humbled.

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