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You are here: Home / Politics / Domestic Politics / Blind Me With Science

Blind Me With Science

by John Cole|  July 3, 201310:48 pm| 128 Comments

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Alright, engineers, here is what I want. I want a deep sink with two parts, one side with a garbage disposal, but here is the twist. I want it all made of ceramics or plastics, and I want the garbage disposal to have a metal detector that will keep it from turning on if it senses metal SO I WILL NOT FUCKING DESTROY ANOTHER PIECE OF FUCKING SILVERWARE.

Thank you.

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  1. 1.

    Keith G

    July 3, 2013 at 10:58 pm

    Or you could just be careful.

  2. 2.

    chopper

    July 3, 2013 at 11:01 pm

    but greenwald is gay, so who cares, right?

  3. 3.

    RareSanity

    July 3, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    As an engineer I’d say that it can be made.

    But I’d also say that it would be cheaper to replace the chewed up silverware considering what the price of that product would be.

    I’ll go out on a limb and say that is the #1 reason why it doesn’t exist.

  4. 4.

    bill d

    July 3, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    It’s all ball bearings nowadays. Now you prepare that Fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads.

  5. 5.

    lojasmo

    July 3, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    Agree. In our house, it is only spoons. (I blame Obama)

  6. 6.

    Suzanne

    July 3, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    A plastic sink would become a biohazard in short order. Vitreous china undergoes thermal shock. Concrete is porous. Get stainless steel.

  7. 7.

    Nalbar

    July 3, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    Then you want a composite three section sink with a separate center disposal section.

    Like this but from composite;
    efaucets.com/f/drop-triple-bowl-kitchen-sinks-7.shtml

    .

  8. 8.

    bill d

    July 3, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    @chopper:
    Greenwald says Obama ruined your cutlery

  9. 9.

    BD of MN

    July 3, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    Just in case this is a partially serious wish list, be careful about the deep sink/disposal combo. My M-I-L put in a deep sink as part of a kitchen remodel, then afterwards asked me to put in a disposal. Turns out the drain outlet on the disposal would be lower than the drain into the wall, so no disposal without ripping out the plumbing in the wall…

  10. 10.

    Xecky Gilchrist

    July 3, 2013 at 11:05 pm

    Such a device can’t be built. Disposals only work because of an arrangement humans made with their kind, which involved the sacrifice of spoons in exchange for eating garbage.

  11. 11.

    bill d

    July 3, 2013 at 11:05 pm

    There you go bragging about your indoor plumbing again, freaking 1%ers.

  12. 12.

    gbear

    July 3, 2013 at 11:06 pm

    You could just use plastic utensils all the time. That’s a single-guy thing to do, especially if you re-use them.

    Edit: Of course there’s always the option of checking for silverware before you flip the switch.

  13. 13.

    Yatsuno

    July 3, 2013 at 11:07 pm

    @Suzanne: Yes yes yes dammit. Stainless Steel is awesome shit in a sink. Sinks should not be made from anything else IMHO.

  14. 14.

    aimai

    July 3, 2013 at 11:07 pm

    I actually have an opinion about this! I have a huge farmhouse sink with a central disposal unit. It is ceramic. I love it and have yet to lose a piece of silverware down it. I also have a smaller prep sink with the disposal unit in the top right hand corner. This, too, has been impervious to silverware slipping down into it. The side disposal unit is a drag, to me. I love my gigantic sink and its far more efficient than the sink and a half or quarter with disposal on the side.

  15. 15.

    amk

    July 3, 2013 at 11:08 pm

    @Keith G: or not being drunk all the time.

  16. 16.

    RareSanity

    July 3, 2013 at 11:09 pm

    @gbear:

    Perish the thought…

    Cole takes his eatin’ too seriously to use plastic cutlery.

  17. 17.

    Urza

    July 3, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    Not sink related, but the pet lovers may like this.

    mini robot that tosses balls for your dog to fetch, and has a place for the dog to drop it for reloading

    dvice.com/2013-7-3/ifetch-dog-toy-plays-fetch-your-dog

  18. 18.

    scuffletuffle

    July 3, 2013 at 11:12 pm

    I love my cast iron double sink. The occasional loss of silverware to the disposal is a small price to pay.

  19. 19.

    Soonergrunt

    July 3, 2013 at 11:13 pm

    @Yatsuno: Corian FTMFW.

  20. 20.

    PeakVT

    July 3, 2013 at 11:13 pm

    Buy shitty silverware and stop worrying. Or learn to flick the disposal on briefly before letting it rip. (I’ve implemented both ’round these parts.)

  21. 21.

    Suffern ACE

    July 3, 2013 at 11:13 pm

    @RareSanity: I don’t know. I could see replacing utensils with a wooden ice cream oar and a spork.

  22. 22.

    Suzanne

    July 3, 2013 at 11:14 pm

    @Yatsuno: You are correct. Stainless steel, preferably undercounted rather than self-rimming. (That’s what she said.)

  23. 23.

    khead

    July 3, 2013 at 11:15 pm

    We’re moving into our new joint next week. The last time we shopped for appliances they were cheaper and dumber.

  24. 24.

    gbear

    July 3, 2013 at 11:15 pm

    @RareSanity: I’m used to the compostable knives, forks and spoons that we have at the cafeteria at work.

    Can Cole get a mat for the bottom of the sink? I don’t have a garbage disposal but never in the last 30 years have I ever let a piece of silverware go down the drain.

  25. 25.

    Suzanne

    July 3, 2013 at 11:15 pm

    @Suzanne: UNDERMOUNTED. DYAC. And FYWP.

  26. 26.

    Soonergrunt

    July 3, 2013 at 11:15 pm

    Behold! The magnetic sink strainer!
    It will hold in place against the steel ring of the drain, and it will also hold any metallic utensils from going down the drain.
    We use one. Well worth the ~$30.

  27. 27.

    bill d

    July 3, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    @Suffern ACE:
    There are billions of people who eat with nothing but freaking sticks! Sticks!

    And compost your stuff rather than use your disposal John, get with the program.

  28. 28.

    Suzanne

    July 3, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    @Soonergrunt: Solid surface is OK. But the integral sinks can only be WHITE. SNORE.

  29. 29.

    PeakVT

    July 3, 2013 at 11:17 pm

    Also/or, too: learn to blame it all on Tunch Rosie and stop worrying.

  30. 30.

    dance around in your bones

    July 3, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    I don’t know, Cole. The minute I hear that metal-chewing noise I turn off the disposal (and wait for it to stop turning) then feel around very carefully for whatever the fuck is making that noise. Usually it’s a tiny spoon (we have tiny kids) or, inexplicably, a dime or a nickel that somehow jumped into the disposal all by its own volition (though I suspect the kids have something to do with it).

    Anyway, the noise is the tip-off. Stop the disposal immediately and investigate! Although we have had a couple of small plastic cups stuck in the disposal that took ages to extract using pliers and breaking them up in pieces. Gah. Gawd-damn kids.

  31. 31.

    Chet

    July 3, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    Stainless steel flatware is paramagnetic so it won’t trip the metal detector you’d be able to install in the space permitted.

  32. 32.

    Yatsuno

    July 3, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    Psst. Googles. U go look naow!

  33. 33.

    jrg

    July 3, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    Scrape in one basin, rinse in the other. Or eat with your hands, exclusively. Or use very large silverware.

  34. 34.

    Martin

    July 3, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    We have something similar. We have a Blanco sink. Ours is one huge basin, but they have two segment ones. It’s a granite composite, so half epoxy/plastic half stone.

    The sink grate does quite a good job from keeping silverware out of the disposal unless you drop it in a hole-in-one.

  35. 35.

    lahke

    July 3, 2013 at 11:23 pm

    Maybe not a metal detector, but I think that there are versions that go on when they sense a foreign body in the drain. Unfortunately, this led to ugly complications for the neighbor who was shoving scraps down the disposer and it triggered on her fingers. Luckily, her kid hit the switch before her panicky screams became pain screams, but it still took the fire department to get her hand out of there.

    So maybe not the best idea for Cole, in thinking it over.

  36. 36.

    Redshirt

    July 3, 2013 at 11:24 pm

    Instead, perhaps you should stay away from all blades, sharp corners, elevations, smooth surfaces, plastic bags, and a bunch of other stuff I can’t be bothered to list.

  37. 37.

    RaflW

    July 3, 2013 at 11:24 pm

    Compost! I mean, dude, you garden. Give back to the soils!

    I lived in a house for 20 of the past 23 years. I composted the whole time, 6 years in Austin and 14 in Minnesota, year round. I broke all the composting ‘rules’ and I still got great dirt. It took a little longer than meticulous composters might take but I got great dirt.

    I miss it. I threw in coffee grounds and the brown paper filters, tea bags, egg shells, rotten food from the back of the fridge, potato peelings, you name it. The occasional cornstarch-plastic compostable spork, even.

    So compost! Save your silverware and get great dirt. It also meant I didn’t have to bag leaves in the fall, and that was a huge bonus. I just raked ’em into huge chickenwire bins, where all the non-meat foodwaste went. Tahdah.

    /Nagging PSA.

  38. 38.

    lahke

    July 3, 2013 at 11:25 pm

    Also, don’t go with undermounted if you get ceramic. Too darn hard to replace when the sink gets chipped, and you know you will.

  39. 39.

    Suzanne

    July 3, 2013 at 11:26 pm

    @lahke: YES. Ceramic also cracks. No bueno.

  40. 40.

    rk

    July 3, 2013 at 11:27 pm

    I solved the sliver ware in the garbage disposal problem by putting a fitted sink strainer over the disposal. That way after I have done the dishes I just tip the peelings in and start the disposal. Saved a world of pain. Available at Amazon.

    amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=sink%20strainer&sprefi…

  41. 41.

    catclub

    July 3, 2013 at 11:30 pm

    @aimai: I want a large single sink, but with both a regular drain and a disposal drain.
    As far as I can tell, this does not exist.

  42. 42.

    Redshirt

    July 3, 2013 at 11:32 pm

    @RaflW: I started composting about 6 months ago, and have no dirt to show for it. What I can show for it is, along with the recycling, I know barely have any trash. There’s no organics in there, nothing recyclable, and so a bag lasts for weeks and weeks.

    On another domestic note, I got another .75 inches of rain today (pretty standard for every day since mid June) and now my stream is a louder tone of gurgle. Much more impressive, yet still well within my flood tolerances (I build real big). So in a strange way, I’m still hoping for a flash flood, just to test my engineering.

    Also, too: 99% humidity at 72 degrees, and it’s a freaking sauna outside. Gross.

  43. 43.

    Suzanne

    July 3, 2013 at 11:32 pm

    Not to be too granite-countertop-y entitled, but my favorite kitchens have quartz countertops with stainless undermount sinks. I always try to convince my clients to go that route. Mr. Suzanne and I are planning to replace our kitchen, as the interior is pretty damaged, and that is what I want. Fortunately, I get a trade discount. Just picked some sweet tile. WOOT.

  44. 44.

    catclub

    July 3, 2013 at 11:33 pm

    @scuffletuffle: Hate my double sink. Both sides are too small.

  45. 45.

    RareSanity

    July 3, 2013 at 11:34 pm

    @Chet:

    Balderdash!

    You use a few Hall Effect sensors to detect even the slightest amount metal. They’re sensitive enough, and definitely small enough to postion around the mounting ring of the disposal.

    The sensors would be the easy part…it’s the microprocessor that you’re gonna need to operate everything that’s going to cost the money. Like I said earlier…the technology exists to make it, but who the heck would pay the eventual retail price for it?

    A top of the line garbage disposal will already set you back $400+, could you imagine paying $300-$400 more for a microprocessor controlled one that can detect when flatware enters it?

  46. 46.

    pamelabrown53

    July 3, 2013 at 11:36 pm

    @aimai:
    I have a huge, deep sink too. Only it’s sealed stone with the disposal unit on the left side. I would never go back to a divided sink…and the stone is just impervious to everything. Like it better than the divided stainless I had previously.

  47. 47.

    wds

    July 3, 2013 at 11:37 pm

    Um … you could also just buy a drain strainer to make sure the silverware doesn’t go down the disposal …I’m just saying …. :)

  48. 48.

    Suzanne

    July 3, 2013 at 11:39 pm

    @pamelabrown53: It isn’t really impervious. Stone is porous and the sealer can wear off with accumulated scrubbing. Make sure you reseal it routinely…..

  49. 49.

    BD of MN

    July 3, 2013 at 11:39 pm

    @dance around in your bones:

    The minute I hear that metal-chewing noise I turn off the disposal (and wait for it to stop turning) then feel around very carefully for whatever the fuck is making that noise.

    We were hosting a party a couple of years ago and my brother in law, the big time hunter, gave me a couple of ducks from his freezer. After thawing and rinsing them off in the sink, I moved on to other food prep and eventually gave the disposal a quick hit. It made the loudest, most gawdawful noise I have ever heard. Thinking it was a utensil, I felt around, found nothing, and hit it again. Still the super loud noise from the disposal. Eventually I figured out that it was a piece of steel shot from one of the ducks…

  50. 50.

    Reluctant Militant

    July 3, 2013 at 11:40 pm

    There is a much simpler solution than re-inventing the wheel. It’s following rule #1: Don’t suck.

  51. 51.

    Redshirt

    July 3, 2013 at 11:40 pm

    I, too, hate my sink. So cheap! And I have only myself to blame, as I said to the builder: “I don’t care about the kitchen. Whatever’s cheapest.”

    Stupid me!

  52. 52.

    Tara the Antisocial Social Worker

    July 3, 2013 at 11:43 pm

    I want a device that deactivates the cell phones in any moving vehicles within 100 feet of me.

  53. 53.

    Suzanne

    July 3, 2013 at 11:46 pm

    @Redshirt: Mr. Suzanne and I bought a foreclosure three years ago, and we found a house that had been misreported on the tax records. So we got a bangin’ deal, even by 2010 standards, great school district, great exterior, lovely landscape, etc. And 50% more square footage than the bank selling the house counted on. But the interior finishes SUCK. Builders’ grade circa 1988. YES, our current countertops are pink. And it still has the original carpet. We have been systematically replacing and customizing (which led to the painting which led to the cat getting poisoned, etc.). The kitchen materials they used were cheap shit that has not held up even the slightest bit. Not to mention UGLY.

  54. 54.

    Narcissus

    July 3, 2013 at 11:48 pm

    Here’s what you do to solve this problem: you pay attention to what you’re doing.

  55. 55.

    JGabriel

    July 3, 2013 at 11:49 pm

    John Cole @ Top:

    I want the garbage disposal to have a metal detector that will keep it from turning on if it senses metal SO I WILL NOT FUCKING DESTROY ANOTHER PIECE OF FUCKING SILVERWARE.

    When you drop silverware into a running garbage disposal, the thing to do is immediately stick your hand down deeply as necessary to retrieve the valuable utensil with no regard for whether it’s stilll grinding (the garbage disposal, not the utensil, though I suppose in this instance the utensil is grinding too) — for a valuable utensil is worth way more than your limbs and digits.

    And the blood will coagulate, eventually. In time. No, seriously, it’s going to stop bleeding soon. Any minute now. Stop whining about it. Wait, let me take a look … you know, that’s not looking too good. Okay, maybe you really should call for an ambulance now …

  56. 56.

    RareSanity

    July 3, 2013 at 11:50 pm

    @Tara the Antisocial Social Worker:

    Like this?

    Only problem is that it only works within 30ft.

  57. 57.

    Keith

    July 3, 2013 at 11:51 pm

    Step 1: buy the top of the line Sinkerator. It’s something like 1.5 HP and QUIET. Step 2: don’t be such a fucking slob that you dump your silverware in the disposal side.
    Although weird story, mine got locked up a year ago, so I dug around in there and wound up pulling about 10 rusted nails out of it. I’ve got no idea how they ended up in there, since they looked nothing like any nail I’ve ever purchased, and the disposal was a year old at the time. My best guess is that I had someone over who sabotaged it.

  58. 58.

    Mike E

    July 3, 2013 at 11:51 pm

    @RaflW: Thank you.

    Fuck y’all with your conveniences, and your insistence on fucking up the water treatment plant. I hope your pipes close up from the stupid greasy food you purée, then pour down the drain.

  59. 59.

    scuffletuffle

    July 3, 2013 at 11:51 pm

    @catclub: I’m sorry to hear that…it’s never been a problem for me. I wash the dog in the tub!

  60. 60.

    Suzanne

    July 3, 2013 at 11:53 pm

    By the way, I would just like to note that my exam results are STILL NOT HERE. Waaaaahhhhh.

  61. 61.

    Jerzy Russian

    July 3, 2013 at 11:56 pm

    @Suzanne:

    but my favorite kitchens have quartz countertops with stainless undermount sinks.

    We are getting that combination also. That quartz material is some pretty amazing shit.

  62. 62.

    catclub

    July 3, 2013 at 11:56 pm

    @pamelabrown53: where does one get such a sink? That sounds like what I want.
    Single large sink, normal drain and disposal drain.

  63. 63.

    pamelabrown53

    July 3, 2013 at 11:58 pm

    @Suzanne: Well, I’ve had it @ 7 years and it looks the same as the day I bought it. “Impervious” enough for me.

  64. 64.

    MomSense

    July 3, 2013 at 11:59 pm

    Oxo makes a basket that fits in the drain and allows water to go through and prevents silverware from going down the drain. It costs about $6 and is easy to clean.

    I have a stainless steel sink and my rule is that the largest roasting pans have to be able to be placed flat in the bottom of the sink and the tallest pot (for lobstah of course!) has to fit under the faucet.

  65. 65.

    michelle

    July 4, 2013 at 12:02 am

    This is one millionth edition of white people problems.

    As a white male you have the commenters to do what would be a simple phone call to a professional.

    However, I think this “help me” nonsense, along with your “I’ll post embarrassing pictures of myself” don’t cut it with most.

    Here’s an idea: garbage disposals keep you from composting. So I think, since I don’t have a garbage disposal or a dishwasher.

  66. 66.

    Suzanne

    July 4, 2013 at 12:02 am

    @Jerzy Russian: Quartz is awesome. There’s some other manufacturers that are way less expensive than Zodiaq, too. LG makes some great colors.

  67. 67.

    MomSense

    July 4, 2013 at 12:04 am

    @RaflW:

    I do, I swear!!! I use the disposal rarely with almost everything going into the compost bin.

  68. 68.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    July 4, 2013 at 12:05 am

    I heard that Greenwald says that Snowden will be releasing slides soon that proves that the NSA is behind silverware being destroyed in patriotic homes across Amurica with the use of secret garbage disposal drones that are infected with the MinceNet virus.

    Fer realz!

  69. 69.

    Suzanne

    July 4, 2013 at 12:07 am

    @pamelabrown53: If you clean it gently and reseal it periodically, should be OK. Stone and concrete sinks can be harbors for bacteria growth, tho, if not sealed adequately, and scrubbing can wear the sealer off.

  70. 70.

    Jerzy Russian

    July 4, 2013 at 12:09 am

    @Suzanne: I think our quartz is Silestone. We are getting LG appliances. It surprised the hell out of me to see the LG brand on some of the quartz samples we saw. One of the samples had something to the effect that “the product contains materials mined from the Earth …” Like my daughter said, “where else are they supposed to get it?” To which I replied, “It would be cool to have countertops made from asteroid material.”

  71. 71.

    Comrade Mary

    July 4, 2013 at 12:17 am

    If you had just added “… and a pony” to your request, at least you’d have a pony by now.

    (Not that the pony should be forced down the garburator. The pony should be kept separate and cherished because, hey, PONY!)

  72. 72.

    Soonergrunt

    July 4, 2013 at 12:19 am

    @michelle: And to think, here I was staying up until the bullshit self-claimed moral superiority/martyrdom would start.
    Well, I can go to bed now, and that didn’t take long at all.

  73. 73.

    trollhattan

    July 4, 2013 at 12:21 am

    My absolutely fave kitchen counter+sink combo (sadly, not mine) is seamless soapstone, Same idea as Corian but eleventy-zillion times nicer to look at and use. If I were reredoing our kitchen that’s what I’d have.

    Can’t help with the disposal problem. I’m now on #3 since our kitchen remodel and have now given up on Insinkerator brand forevah. They’re shite, Don’t use it often and don’t go through silverware because the little sink it’s installed in has a fitted strainer insert. Which is an awesome thing to have.

  74. 74.

    p.a.

    July 4, 2013 at 12:23 am

    @michelle: with my new kitchen, next year probably, I will finally break down and get a dishwasher. See no need for a disposal. I much prefer my double kitchen sink (equal sizes) to my large single basin cellar kitchen sink. (I’ve always considered the cellar (basement) kitchen an Italian/Portuguese ‘thing’. Is that accurate?

  75. 75.

    Redshirt

    July 4, 2013 at 12:24 am

    @Suzanne: Have you replaced your sink?

    I’m contemplating replacing mine, by myself. I toy with the idea, lightly, mind you. For, it seems like it would be easy on the surface of it – get proper measurements, take many photos, buy a properly considered replacement, then turn off the water, disconnect the tubes, and pop the old sink out, and put in the new. Reconnect tubes, turn water back on, and pray to FSM.

    Seems straightforward, on the surface. But by my age now, I’ve come to always expect something other than straightforward. Something will go wrong, something will not fit, something won’t connect properly, something will be missing, etc. So I try and plan for those events, again, I say, lightly.

    Because I’m probably never going to replace the sink, and instead just bitch about it forever, inside.

  76. 76.

    YellowJournalism

    July 4, 2013 at 12:24 am

    I found out today that my son has to have surgery for a hernia. He’a only five, so my mommy worry instinct is going into overdrive.

    On the plus side, the surgery will have very few costs associated with it, thanks to single-payer healthcare. I don’t want to think of what the costs would have been if we were in the US.

  77. 77.

    Botsplainer

    July 4, 2013 at 12:24 am

    God help me, I just ate garlic bologna as a snack between whiskey trips. The puppy is looking at me with the “I hate that fucking crate” look, the wife and youngest child en route to Rome, Greece and Istanbul, and I’m bouncing netflix.

  78. 78.

    p.a.

    July 4, 2013 at 12:25 am

    with my new kitchen, next year probably, I will finally break down and get a dishwasher. See no need for a disposal. I much prefer my double kitchen sink (equal sizes) to my large single basin cellar kitchen sink. (I’ve always considered the cellar (basement) kitchen an Italian/Portuguese ‘thing’. Is that accurate?

  79. 79.

    dance around in your bones

    July 4, 2013 at 12:25 am

    @BD of MN:

    Still the super loud noise from the disposal. Eventually I figured out that it was a piece of steel shot from one of the ducks…

    Sometimes it took me a couple of feels to figure out that the noise was coming from a dime or a nickel. Still don’t know how the heck they get in the garbage disposal, but it’s happened several times now.

    I can see how missing steel shot from a duck would be easy to miss. Stupid garbage disposals – I agree with the folks who encourage compost heaps. Not that we have one – the skunks raccoons and crows already have a good enough time with trash cans left outside if we are not careful. We’d probably have to build a wire cage around a compost heap.

  80. 80.

    Redshirt

    July 4, 2013 at 12:30 am

    @YellowJournalism: Best wishes and my thoughts are with you.

  81. 81.

    Soonergrunt

    July 4, 2013 at 12:30 am

    @YellowJournalism: I have Blue Cross Federal Employee. It costs me $196/month and it is awesome. My wife gets good (not great) insurance through the state where she is an employee for free. Last time I had a hernia operation, my out of pocket expense was $47 for surgery, anesthesia, and post-op care.

  82. 82.

    MikeJ

    July 4, 2013 at 12:33 am

    @RareSanity:

    The sensors would be the easy part…it’s the microprocessor that you’re gonna need to operate everything that’s going to cost the money.

    Microprocessors are dirt cheap. All you need is something that will open a circuit when a sensor fires. Atmel makes plenty for under $2.

  83. 83.

    Suzanne

    July 4, 2013 at 12:37 am

    @Redshirt: not yet. I need to replace the whole kitchen. There were multiple plumbing leaks over the years, and the casework is badly damaged. We’ve fixed much of the plumbing, will do the floors next, then do the casework and countertops.

    Sinks are not a big deal. Even if you hire someone, it won’t be that expensive.

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    Suzanne

    July 4, 2013 at 12:40 am

    @YellowJournalism: Hugs. My nine-year-old had an epigastric hernia repaired when she was two, and it was seriously no big deal. I was freaking out, but the surgery took half an hour and she was home eating ice cream by mid-afternoon. All will be well.

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    trollhattan

    July 4, 2013 at 12:42 am

    @YellowJournalism:

    Aww, I’m sorry. Best wishes to you and the little fella–hope he comes through with flying colors.

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    trollhattan

    July 4, 2013 at 12:44 am

    Damn, the ipod just shuffled to the T-Rex BBC sessions. Freakishly talented band. I don’t think anybody understood them back in the day, at least not the top-40 mavens.

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    AnotherBruce

    July 4, 2013 at 12:46 am

    @Redshirt: I’m guessing launching Cole into outer space might be the safest thing for him.

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    rda909

    July 4, 2013 at 12:46 am

    @bill d: This little proposition doesn’t entail me dressing as Little Bo-Peep, does it?

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    askew

    July 4, 2013 at 12:48 am

    @YellowJournalism: Best wishes on the surgery.

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    Soonergrunt

    July 4, 2013 at 12:50 am

    @rda909: Don’t talk to me like that, Assface. I don’t work for you yet.

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    dance around in your bones

    July 4, 2013 at 12:51 am

    I also lived in a 300 yr old farmhouse in Friesland that had a deep stone sink original to the farmhouse. No garbage disposal there! We also had slaapkamers which were kind of cupboards with a bed inside where you slept in a sort of raised knee fashion. The best/weirdest thing though was the bathroom, which was a kind of outhouse with wooden buckets catching the ‘output’. Every week a truck came by and switched out the full buckets with empty ones.

    One great thing was a big van that came by every week full of fruits and veggies and spice cakes….you got on in front, filled up your basket and paid at the end. Ah, the good old days.

  92. 92.

    Annamal

    July 4, 2013 at 12:52 am

    We just have a sink and a big metal bin that goes out to the compost every few days.

    We’ve only managed to lose one teaspoon to it and even then we er….got it back(and soaked it in bleach for a day)

    I think garbage disposal units might be more of an American thing?

    I’ve only ever lived in one house in NZ that had one and even then it was never used.

  93. 93.

    Botsplainer

    July 4, 2013 at 12:52 am

    Drunk. Do I put the puppy in his crate, or do I trust the 20 yr old?

  94. 94.

    Redshirt

    July 4, 2013 at 12:54 am

    @Botsplainer: Crate. 20 year olds cannot be trusted.

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    shera

    July 4, 2013 at 12:54 am

    My parents have two sinks, each fairly deep, separated by a small, shallow and narrow (about 4 inches wide) sink that holds the garbage disposal. In the 10 years they’ve owned their house, they’ve never lost a piece of cutlery in the disposal. My brothers and I, goofballs though we are, have never done so either. It seems like a pretty neat idea to me – most people are just inclined to use the sinks for cutlery and dishes and the little sink for food, so no forks, etc. get chewed up.

  96. 96.

    Mandalay

    July 4, 2013 at 12:59 am

    @trollhattan: That’s really odd….I was listening to Deborah earlier today for the first time in a very long time.

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    FlipYrWhig

    July 4, 2013 at 1:03 am

    You want a corporate-installed device to monitor your sink for suspicious intruders? Fascism, thy name is John Cole.

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    rda909

    July 4, 2013 at 1:04 am

    @Soonergrunt: Can I borrow your towel for a sec? My car just hit a water buffalo.

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    pokeyblow

    July 4, 2013 at 1:05 am

    @Botsplainer: I think the 20-year-old will be fine in the crate.

  100. 100.

    Redshirt

    July 4, 2013 at 1:08 am

    Science is awesome btw.

    I was reading about Strange Stars today. So cool.

    I have this idea there’s something more, something fundamental, about the progression from fusion to neutron star to quark star to black hole. I don’t know what it is though, but I trust SCIENCE will work on it, so I’m happy.

  101. 101.

    Anne Laurie

    July 4, 2013 at 1:10 am

    @scuffletuffle:

    I wash the dog in the tub!

    Size-ist. At 15-20lbs, our dogs are too tall for a shallow sink, and too small for the bathtub. Especially since I have a bad back.

  102. 102.

    Villago Delenda Est

    July 4, 2013 at 1:10 am

    @Narcissus:

    This is Cole we’re talking about. That is not an option.

  103. 103.

    Soonergrunt

    July 4, 2013 at 1:14 am

    @rda909: I’m afraid I’m gonna have to pull rank on you. I didn’t want to have to do this. I’m with the Mattress Police. There are no tags on these mattresses.

  104. 104.

    trollhattan

    July 4, 2013 at 1:25 am

    @Anne Laurie:

    wife.gov came up with a relatively brilliant dog bathing scheme for our 50-pounder. She takes the concrete mixing tub into the shower and washes her there, using the handheld sprayer. It seems like the best solution so far.

    Mind, this is a short-haired dog; I don’t know if I’d do it with a Newfie.

  105. 105.

    trollhattan

    July 4, 2013 at 1:28 am

    @Soonergrunt:

    Who the hell tags their madrassas? Is that so the dronz can find them?

  106. 106.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    July 4, 2013 at 1:32 am

    John, I hope you can put enough time and money into finding a solution for this vexing issue. Until then, perhaps you could reach into the disposal and make sure there is no silverware in it before using it.

  107. 107.

    Yatsuno

    July 4, 2013 at 1:33 am

    @trollhattan:

    I don’t know if I’d do it with a Newfie

    Newfies you wash outside. With a hose. And a half a gallon of soap at least. But for the sake of Allah not during shedding season. You’ll have black grass for weeks.

  108. 108.

    Redshirt

    July 4, 2013 at 1:36 am

    @Yatsuno: Newfies are the butt of jokes in the Atlantic Provinces. For example, remember every Polish joke you’ve ever heard and replace Pole with Newfie – for New Foundlander. The poor souls. Truly though, on the outer islands, things get a little rough and weird.

  109. 109.

    Suzanne

    July 4, 2013 at 1:41 am

    Good news: Kitty continues to improve. She’s now up to walking, albeit short distances, unsteadily. She’s also gaining weight. YAAAAAAAY.

    Bad news: STILL don’t have exam results. And the national exam system is shut down until September, so I can’t take the next one until then. DAMNIT.

  110. 110.

    rda909

    July 4, 2013 at 1:44 am

    @Soonergrunt: Look, defenseless babies!

  111. 111.

    Seanly

    July 4, 2013 at 1:48 am

    @Urza:

    Looks like a cool item. That would be prefet for our younger dog who LUVS nothing more than to play fetch for hours at a time. Except that she’s kinda dumb & always drops the ball about 5 to 15 feet away from me.

    RE: Newfies – a co-worker of mine in SC was a Newfie. She said it’s beautiful there but there are 0, zero, 0,000 jobs – I think her family was on one of the outer islands. So you could be a fisherman, work in one of the two or three stores or be an unemployed relative of a fisherman.

  112. 112.

    trollhattan

    July 4, 2013 at 1:57 am

    @Redshirt:

    “Trailer Park Boys”! (Nova Scotia, but close enuf.)

  113. 113.

    dollared

    July 4, 2013 at 2:06 am

    @Yatsuno: This. The awesome part of stainless steel is 1) it doesn’t, well, stain. and 2) when you drop that soapy stoneware mug, it bounces and doesn’t break.

  114. 114.

    Redshirt

    July 4, 2013 at 2:17 am

    @trollhattan: Nova Scotia is High Society compared to New Foundland. You know that shit counts Labrador? Somehow?

  115. 115.

    Suzanne

    July 4, 2013 at 2:50 am

    @dollared: Most importantly, stainless steel is HYGIENIC, which is a huge deal for food sinks. The other choices just do not perform to that level, which is why commercial kitchens and hospitals use stainless sinks in the sterile and food prep areas.

  116. 116.

    Yatsuno

    July 4, 2013 at 3:45 am

    @dollared: My current place has a stainless steel sink. It has gotten clean no matter what I throw at it.

  117. 117.

    NotMax

    July 4, 2013 at 3:56 am

    @Yatsuno et al:

    Just FYI, club soda is great for polishing up stainless steel surfaces.

  118. 118.

    Thlayli

    July 4, 2013 at 4:48 am

    All of you who are insulting Cole: did it ever occur to you that Tunch is dropping forks down the disposal to fuck with him?

    Of course not.

  119. 119.

    Susanne

    July 4, 2013 at 8:14 am

    Or, you could use a $10 stopper that also cleans up the gunk. Just saying.

    amazon.com/Danco-10051-Disposal-Genie-Black/dp/B002VHS19M/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1372939825…

  120. 120.

    PopeRatzo

    July 4, 2013 at 8:47 am

    Who has “silverware”?

  121. 121.

    Central Planning

    July 4, 2013 at 8:53 am

    @Yatsuno:

    You could just use plastic utensils all the time. That’s a single-guy thing to do, especially if you re-use them.

    Silver colored plastic utensils – like the kind you get on long airline flights or massive conventions.

  122. 122.

    Central Planning

    July 4, 2013 at 9:04 am

    Also JC, get the biggest, baddest disposal you can afford. It should be quieter and will be able to chew up anything.

  123. 123.

    Waysel

    July 4, 2013 at 9:11 am

    John Cole: amazon.com/Titan-T-1060-Premium-Waste-Disposer/dp/B001B4E0VY/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hi_2 and/ or amazon.com/Titan-T-1060-Premium-Waste-Disposer/dp/B001B4E0VY/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hi_2. Looks like the Mr. Scrappy ‘Silver Guard’ is two big magnet half collars surrounding the drain, but I can’t tell if they’ll fit brands other than Titan.

  124. 124.

    Waysel

    July 4, 2013 at 9:39 am

    Looks like Silver Guard magnets won’t fit Insinkerator brand. anaheimmarketing.com/mrscrappy/ms_silverguard.html

  125. 125.

    Bstick

    July 4, 2013 at 10:52 am

    @Chet: it’s anti ferromagnetic. A paramagnet would be magnetic in the sense we think of as a fridge magnet

  126. 126.

    FlipYrWhig

    July 4, 2013 at 11:01 am

    @Suzanne: @Suzanne: Thanks for the update!

  127. 127.

    RSA

    July 4, 2013 at 11:08 am

    I think some kind of mechanical solution might work (and be cheap): You need a device that prevents thin rigid items from going through it but not more flexible, gooshy stuff. I’m thinking of a cap with wide side openings and with low enough clearance that the silverwear can’t make the turn into the drain.

    Disclaimer: Not an engineer.

  128. 128.

    cleek

    July 4, 2013 at 11:39 am

    get a goat

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