William Warfield – Deep River
Something upbeat (or at least righteously angry) next time, I promise. Suggestions gladly taken.
ETA:
H/t that last one gbear
by Sarah, Proud and Tall| 46 Comments
This post is in: Absent Friends, Music, Open Threads, Post-racial America
William Warfield – Deep River
Something upbeat (or at least righteously angry) next time, I promise. Suggestions gladly taken.
ETA:
H/t that last one gbear
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Collin
Please pass on to John that I have received threat notifications from my antivirus program the last two times I have logged on to your site. Something called “Exploit Invisible (Frame Inection (Type 1707))
Won’t be back till my antivirus judges your site safe.
Collin
Sarah, Proud and Tall
@Collin:
I suspect that Mistermix is the one you should email at this point. He, very generously, seems to deal with such issues.
gbear
People Get Ready by the Impressions
73 year old Lester Chambers (of the 60’s band The Chambers Brothers) was attacked by an unhinged 43 year old woman on stage last night for dedicating this song to Trayvon Martin. He wound up in the hospital.
Edit: Damn I’m slow…
Violet
@Collin: I had that happen yesterday one time when I refreshed a page. I wonder if it might be due to an ad. Since they rotate and change, and it only happened once, I figured that was the problem.
Ted & Hellen
Open thread discussion question for the BJ Dominant Botsplainer Commenter Cohort:
Trayvon Martin was 17 years old.
The boys found guilty in the Steubenville case were 17 and 16 years old.
Why is Martin a “child” while the Steubenville pair (as frequently asserted here) were “men” who deserved to be tried as adults?
Discuss.
gbear
@Ted & Hellen: For one, because Trayvon Martin WASN’T FUCKING ON TRIAL. He was just walking home from the fucking store. Asshole
Gin & Tonic
@Ted & Hellen: Because he is dead.
Ted & Hellen
@gbear:
That is seriously your answer?
Fail.
Ted & Hellen
@Gin & Tonic:
No, this is also stupid.
gbear
@Ted & Hellen: Jesus Christ, Fuck off and die you syphilitic prick.
Kay
@efgoldman:
Really does wrap it up though, doesn’t it?
“It’s all your fault!”
Older
Well, as an old person, with a largish number of children, I will hazard a guess.
There are things which are appropriate, and things which are not, at any age. The Steubenville boys had made a decision to act inappropriately “mannish” (if you recognize that term, and I will admit it’s old folks’ talk). Whereas, Trayvon was acting entirely appropriately for a child.
Many’s the time one or more of my kids walked down to a nearby store to get candy and a soft drink. All the way from 6 years to, yes, 17 years of age. I don’t believe he assaulted anyone. I feel terrible for his parents. I don’t know how I would have survived such an incident had it involved my kid. What can you do? How can you go on?
The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik
Again, the worst thing to come out of this whole fucking disaster is how it turned into a trial in Trayvon Martin and he was found guilty posthumously.
Oh, and good christ, T&H, you are an unforgivable asshole.
MomSense
@efgoldman:
Wow. I hope he recovers fully and quickly.
That is one of my favorite songs.
Ted & Hellen
@gbear:
No. Incoherent.
Fail.
Ted & Hellen
@The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik:
How so?
I am asking a relevant question, and you are avoiding it.
All three were/are about the same age, yet one is conveniently a CHILD and the other two are conveniently MEN, according to the prejudices of the commenting observers. I am interested to know the process by which this distinction was made.
I seek only to learn.
Kay
@The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik:
Some of the memorials/vigils are nice though. They’re doing kids making portraits with Skittles in Detroit.
There’s something like 100 events, it looks like. They’re all different.
MomSense
@Sarah, Proud and Tall:
Since I rarely get to “see” you here, I wanted to thank you for saying enough good things about Dr. Who that I finally decided to watch and am now completely head over heals for Who!
I found this today and have decided to make one–knitters are the best and of course someone found a way to knit a tardis wrap! I really should send it to you as a thank you.
http://www.knitty.com/ISSUEss12/PATTbigger.php
gbear
@Ted & Hellen:
Read up, grasshopper. 20 seconds on Google.
Cygil
Hey, Ted & Hellen
Honestly, nobody cares about your inane gotcha freeper botsplainer talking point.
Perhaps it’s the same reason your guy is a “statesman” and my guy is a “politician”. Or our guys with guns are “soldiers” and their guys with guns are “insurgents” or “terrorists”, that is to say one is the honorable party and the other side is the fucking perpetrator.
Or perhaps it’s a minor hypocrisy that doesn’t fucking matter one bit, when you realize a vigilante mall ninja with a ludicrous alibi got away with murder because of racism, stupidity of “stand your ground”, and stunning incompetence by the police and district attorney’s office.
muddy
@Ted & Hellen: The process is that 2 of them were criminals and 1 of them was a victim. Agency much?
Older
@Ted & Hellen: My post at #14 was meant to be a reply to you.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@Ted & Hellen:
1. Show me where the steubenvill pair was assserted to be men here on this blog.
2. Just because the law calls them men doesn’t mean they are.
Ted & Hellen
@gbear:
You’re not very smart, are you?
My question regards the BJ commentariat, not the court system.
I am of the opinion that a juvenile is a juvenile until he or she stops being a juvenile by age, not by some arbitrary bullshit like your link.
Why couldn’t the heinous nature of a crime be a rationale for arguing that the juvenile offender was too YOUNG to understand the gravity of it, as opposed to omg the crime is nasty so let’s pretend the offender is an adult even though they’re not, which makes no sense.
By the way, gbear, I think you should be banned and have request Cole do so. Just cause.
Ted & Hellen
@Cygil:
No.
Narcissus
@Ted & Hellen: You should really provide a cite for someone making that distinction and then ask them.
Ted & Hellen
@muddy:
Could you explain how victim/perp alleged issues change their chronological age?
Either they are all children or they are all adults, or maybe just maybe they are all “juveniles.”
Consistency is a thing you should consider.
Inyake
Hmm.
Ted & Hellen
@Narcissus:
Trayvon has repeatedly been referred to as a “child” in BJ comment threads.
Many commenters here called for the Steubenville perps to be tried as adults.
If you don’t recall those statements, then don’t worry about it. Ignore me.
Inyake
Hmm.
dman
@ted&hellen
Funny how you never replied to Olders fantastic response to your shit
The Other Bob
Ted and Helen is right, Trayvon should have been tried as an adult, and that f*cker deserved to die.
AxelFoley
Think it’s time for Cole to finally permaban this fucker.
T&H, if we were in the same room, your ass would have my foot in it.
AxelFoley
@The Other Bob:
You serious?
Sarah, Proud and Tall
@MomSense:
A pleasure, dear. Always happy to have converted someone to the joys of Who.
Have you started watching “classic” episodes yet?
Sarah, Proud and Tall
@AxelFoley:
I suspect not, dear.
@all
Now, all of you play nice. I’m not a believer in the banning, and I suspect taking anything up with Cole right now would be a STUPID FUCKING IDEA, so you all play nice and I won’t have to come in there.
The Other Bob
@AxelFoley:
No. Sorry my snark wasn’t clear.
Ted & Hellen
@The Other Bob:
Projection.
Ted & Hellen
@AxelFoley:
Gosh, you’re awfully butch and fierce over the intertrons, sister man.
Ted & Hellen
@AxelFoley:
You should write JC several emails expressing your deep disappointment in how he is running this blog that you pay good money to read.
MomSense
@Sarah, Proud and Tall:
Funny you should ask. I just discovered that my Dad was hooked on classic Who so I am going to watch classic and he will watch new Who and then compare notes.
Did you see the message Matt Smith did for his fans? Very sweet.
http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2013/06/matt-smith-has-a-personal-message-for-you/
SiubhanDuinne
@Ted & Hellen:
Wikipedia:
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Amir Khalid
@Ted & Hellen:
John Cole did warn you, when you tried to pick a fight with Betty Cracker and Cassidy right after your most recent time-out, that you were now on your very last chance. (He also called you a pox on this blog, remember?) You seem eager to use up that last chance.
gbear
@Sarah, Proud and Tall:
You are right. I apologize, It was a stupid move.
Ted & Hellen
@Amir Khalid:
And you are concerned for me?
Yeah, because poor Betty is such a delicate, foul mouthed flower and needs to be taken care of and all.
Please. Cole loves me and pays me to post here. The fact that this causes you deep concern is a plus.
Ted & Hellen
@SiubhanDuinne:
Oops.
Does this somehow make a difference as to my original comment re Trayvon?