From commentor CaseyL:
The Seattle BJ crew had a meetup Saturday. MikeJ, Yatsuno, Opie_jeanne, PsiFighter+17, and more whose names I cannot remember, were there. We drank many toasts to General Stuck and Tunch. I’ve put the pix on Photobucket, and here is a link.
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Thanks to commentor Lahke, Boston-area Juicers will get together this Wednesday, July 17, at the Watch City Brewing Co in Waltham, starting around 7pm. I’m looking forward to meeting y’all!
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Any other gatherings should be front-paged here?
Other topics on the agenda?
ETA: Last-minute notice from commentor Summer:
Ever so late, having gone to Moral Monday, but North Carolina Balloon Juicers are having what I think is our first meetup tonight at 8 p.m. at Geer St. Garden in Durham. There are just two of us so far, but we plan to totally build a vibrant community and work together to schedule another meetup soon. Toasts to Tunch (and photographic evidence to follow).
the Conster
I’m planning to be at the Boston meet up. I have a job interview that morning, so I’ll be ready to party!
ETA: Is it a sanctioned BJ meet up event without PsiFighter+17? What will be the signifiers so I don’t make a fool of myself asking for the BJers?
Scamp Dog
I’ve tried before to get a Denver area meetup going, and hope I’m in early enough this time to succeed in generating interest. C’mon people, there were a lot of us talking about our efforts for last year’s melection!
Yatsuno
Going round the table from left to right: Opie_jeanne, MikeJ, CaseyL, moi, Psi, and Opie’s husband. Occasional comnenter Petermac is taking the shot. Thalarctos, her hubby, and a lovely lurker whose name slips my mind came a bit later. I’m pretty sure that’s everyone.
Elizabelle
Here’s an entertainment idea for any DC area Balloon Juicers.
I am totally thinking of going to this, and the West End Cinema serves alcohol. (Just saying.) About 3 blocks above the Foggy Bottom/GWU Metro station.
Monday, July 22: Movie director Ronald Maxwell will do a Q&A after the 7:00 p showing.
Anybody else up for seeing this?
I love supporting filmmakers, and the WEC gets some excellent flicks. Am thinking this is not an “Atlas Shrugged” type of movie.
To make this even longer: a description of the West End Cinema:
MomSense
Hello beautiful juicers! Looks like you had a lot of fun!
Baud
It always amazes me that you people are real.
ThresherK
I may be going to the meetup in Waltham, Mass, Wed nite, and I may be bringing baked goods.
What food allergies do planned attendees have for me to watch out for?
gogol's wife
@Yatsuno:
Psi Fighter looks remarkably sober, given his internet persona.
Looks like so much fun!
geg6
This is where I would normally jump in and start browbeating Cole about owing me dinner and when will there be a Pittsburgh area meetup.
But my heart isn’t in it today.
piratedan
coolness from Io via NatGeo
http://io9.com/interactive-map-reveals-the-most-common-surnames-in-the-788227040
and oh… good luck Conster!
ranchandsyrup
Cool pics! My daughter has the Green poster with Tunch’s picture on it from the SD meetup a while back in her room. She loves the “big kitty”.
Mustang Bobby
I know I’m not the only South Florida Juicer, and if the others would like to get together, I can suggest some places like Flannigan’s in Pinecrest or anywhere in the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale/Keys area.
Jebediah
@Yatsuno:
Clearly you are mistaken or lying, because not one of these people matches what I
assumedknow they actually look like.Violet
The empty pitchers tell the tale. Looks like you had fun!
Gin & Tonic
@geg6: Given the circumstances, maybe you should drive down and bring him dinner. Or a pie. Or something other than a beverage.
thalarctos
“a lovely lurker whose name slips my mind”
I think she’s quite ok with being under the radar, but yes, she’s lovely, and we had a great conversation down at that end of the table.
the Conster
@Baud:
Weird, right?
Just Some Fuckhead
Sorry I couldn’t make it but it was probably for the best. I like to fight and it looks like CaseyL likes to fight too, so there prolly woulda been a brawl.
lamh35
“You can’t just talk about it, you’ve got to be about it.”—Stevie Wonder explaining why he won’t perform in Florida (or any other state with SYC laws) until SYG is gone.
This is essentially the same thing he did over the National MLK holiday. He wrote “Happy Birthday” for that occasion.
Now the real question is, will younger artist like Jay Z or Beyonce or Kanye West put their principles over their money?????
Spaghetti Lee
@Baud:
No, we’re all still just DougJ under different names. Those folks up there are, in fact, suprisingly realistic cardboard cutouts.
Svensker
@Jebediah:
Eggzackly!
ThresherK
@efgoldman: First, a full-fledged sense of denial, and a ceiling fan set to High. (Plus a pass to my town pool. And getting a “new-used” car with much better AC than the one I had last summer doesn’t hurt.)
Second, I was thinking of providing “goodie bags” for take-home.
Violet
@lamh35: That is awesome! This is exactly what I was talking about yesterday. A boycott of Florida tourism and other types of things, including celebrities, entertainers and professional athletes would really have an impact.
askew
I am too far away in Minnesota for any of these meet-ups, but they look like fun.
On more frustrating news, Reid is meeting with Senate Republicans on a compromise for the nuclear option. Looks like Reid will agree one more time to some weak sauce compromise that Republicans have no intention of honoring. It makes Dems look so weak, when we fold time after time. Plus, we actually had 51 votes this time.
Schlemizel
Anyone interested in a twin cities meetup? Maybe Town Hall in Mpls or Great Waters in Sr. Paul?
lamh35
Lord, if Harry Reid, even entertains this bullshit, then he needs to be removed as Majority Leader A-freakin’-SAP!
McCain Suggests Letting GOP Pick Nominees
Roger Moore
@gogol’s wife:
Yeah. He showed up at the LA area get together wearing a “I’m not drunk, I’m awesome” T-shirt. That seems a lot closer to his on-line persona.
Yatsuno
@gogol’s wife: I think he has Superman’s liver transplanted in him. He wears his booze quite well, though we insisted upon walking him back to the hotel. Even if it was just a short stumble away.
@Jebediah: If I’m lyin’ I’m cryin’.
/Mater
askew
@lamh35:
I could see Beyonce doing it. But, it needs to be more than just AA artists. When Latin artists boycotted Arizona over their immigration bill, no one joined them and it fizzled quickly.
Darkrose
Would anyone be interested in a Sacramento area BJ meetup? Maybe at Tower Cafe?
ranchandsyrup
@lamh35: Turning FL into Sun City back in the apartheid days. I like it.
askew
@lamh35:
I am so steamed about this compromise already. It is so offensive. So a bunch of Republican Senators think they can tell Obama who should serve in his admin, go fuck yourself Senators. I am so sick of the lack of respect Obama is given by just about everyone that I could scream.
Violet
@askew: I wonder if there’s some kind of organizing going on behind the scenes to get people to join in.
Yatsuno
@askew: Didn’t a suggestion like this come up under Clinton or am I meschugnah about that?
La Caterina (Mrs. Johannes)
@Yatsuno: Thanks for the handy guide to put names to the faces!
raven
@Yatsuno: How come I thought you were a diminutive person of Asian extraction?
Violet
@ranchandsyrup: I Ain’t Gonna Play Sun City.
TCG
http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-throws-hands-up-tells-black-teenagers-to-do,33125/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=Default:1:Default
Spaghetti Lee
I’m sad that I missed the big disco sucks thread. I love threads where everyone talks about how their taste in music is objectively superior (and I mean that sincerely-why else would to talk about music?)
It occurred to me that not only is my taste in music fairly “conservative” as far as those things go (Classic rock, indie rock, prog rock, AOR, and country rock. Some electronic stuff. Can’t stand punk or rap for the most part, and I think most folk, jazz, and blues songs are kind of dull), but I have similar tastes in lots of other things: I like summer blockbusters, fantasy and sci-fi, old-fashioned 2D animation, chain restaurants, and so forth. Somehow, this hasn’t prevented me from being liberal. I think it’s kind of weird how some pop cultural things get hit with claims of political motivations that are barely there, if at all. On alicublog and similar sites there’s always some talk about conservatives pledging themselves to crappy writers or artists because those artists are ‘conservative’ (or else attempting to take indisputably great stuff and ex post facto explain why it’s conservative). Seems kind of pointless, and joyless for that matter.
geg6
@askew:
Based on what I read about that, I don’t think Reid will go along. McCain said that maybe they would come up with a list of acceptable replacements if these nominees can’t get past the GOPers. Love how these guys position themselves as strict constitutionalists. But maybe with McCain, he forgot he lost in 2008.
JPL
@askew: This was on the Maddow blog but this attribute has a link to kos
McCain said he and Republicans are trying to strike a deal with Reid would either allow up-or-down votes on seven contentious nominees or at least find “replacements” for those nominees. So if they can name replacements they won’t filibuster. Democracy in action..
link
sacrablue
@Darkrose: I’d love to meet the locals. That is if I can talk my son into driving me (elbow injury, can’t drive til I do rehab).
askew
@Yatsuno:
With Clinton, he gave them a list of people and then worked with them to make a nomination. Here is sounds like the Republicans want to name Obama’s nominees. I wouldn’t be in favor of either options. Clinton let the GOP have too much control during his 2 terms and Obama is more than entitled to name his own nominees. We need to stop caving into these threats.
JCT
@askew: No, but this silly state lost big bucks in conventions and travel. Some of the dialing back of the crazy is because business leaders made it clear to drunken Cactus Barbie that they had had enough.
And I am jealous, not enough of us in Tucson for a meet up.
raven
@efgoldman: Our nephew is 6’4″ 225 and he played the flute in his HS marching band! Drove the coaches nuts that he wouldn’t play football or hoops.
Yatsuno
@efgoldman: Need I remind you of my kick-ass Ethiopian friend who also plays sousa and is 4’9″?
Roger Moore
@askew:
I suspect this was the goal all along. He was never really planning on eliminating the filibuster, just using the threat of doing so to force the Republicans to allow a vote on some of the President’s nominees.
ranchandsyrup
@Violet: I think that little Stevie from the E St. Band started that (he’s Silvio Dante on teh Sopranos as well). Good on him.
piratedan
@JCT: methinks it’s just me and you, but I know that Suzanne is in Phoenix metro, but after that I am fuzzy on who is “local”
askew
@JPL:
They will never agree on a replacement. It’s just one more way for McCain to stick it to Obama.
Reid has the 51 votes. There is no need to compromise but apparently Levin who is a no vote wanted this meeting.
elisabeth
We Vermonters must be huge slackers.
Violet
@ranchandsyrup: Yep. From one of the videos of it:
I Ain’t Gonna Play Miami! I think that has a ring to it.
JPL
If there is any hope of getting judicial nominees passed, he needs to end the filibuster on judges also.
askew
@Violet:
I hope so. With all due respect to Stevie, we need someone a little more relevant to start talking boycott. It would be nice to see some Latin artists agree to a boycott since FL is a huge market for them and Stand Your Ground isn’t making life safer for Latin youth either.
beltane
@elisabeth: Vermont is a small state but unless you live in Chittenden County, it’s a long, long drive to get to just about anywhere.
kc
@Violet:
I love that! The whole album kicks ass. I had it on cassette years ago, but lost it. It’s not on iTunes and I’ve looked for it online to no avail. Damn it.
Violet
@askew: Agreed. It needs to be wider than just the African American entertainers. We were discussing an ad campaign targeted at Europeans showing how Florida Isn’t Safe. There’s a big European tourism business, especially in Orlando.
askew
@JPL:
That is going to be a harder hurdle for 51 votes. Boxer and Feinstein have said they would vote against it for judges because they are worried what would happen on women’s rights if a Republican president didn’t have to worry about the filibuster for their judicial nominations.
Personally, I think the GOP nukes the filibuster completely if they gain control of the Senate.
hedgehog the occasional commenter
@Scamp Dog:
I’m in (Littleton area, work downtown)
BD of MN
@Schlemizel:
Yes, definitely. (That said, I work too damn much so it may be tough for me…) As a east side of the river kinda guy, I’d vote for Great Waters or The Happy Gnome…
Violet
@kc: It is an awesome album. Looks like you can get the vinyl on ebay: http://compare.ebay.com/like/140746008763?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar.
elisabeth
@efgoldman:
LOL. And here I thought it was the maple syrup.
Elizabelle
@Violet:
Do you remember if European tourism dropped off in the wake of that German tourist getting shot after he got lost driving around in his rental car?
I remember that being a big issue maybe 10-12 years ago.
I am all in favor of an enthusiastic boycott of Florida tourism and spending on Florida-produced goods.
Hit them in their pocket, right next to their concealed weapons.
elisabeth
@beltane:
True. Although I live in Franklin County I currently work in Chittenden. I don’t drink, though, so make a great designated driver.
kc
@Violet:
Thanks! I just Googled it to see if anything had come available recently (I actually looked for it about five months ago) and saw that again. I don’t have a turntable, or other any other vinyl records, alas.
I see they have CD’s for sale starting at $125.00.
I wish they’d put it on iTunes.
Violet
@Elizabelle: I don’t remember that at all. I do think there’s an opportunity to hurt Florida businesses, especially tourism, by boycotting. Free market, bitchez!
Violet
@kc: Get the vinyl and find someone to rip it for you. Can’t be very expensive or hard to do. You just need the equipment. I bet within B-J there are some people who could help you out with that.
aimai
@efgoldman: Wow, thats the nicest thing anyone will ever say to me about my posting at OW which was brief and for which I was always getting banned. I will try to come. Do we have a secret sign? I kind of imagine we will all look like unmade beds, but maybe thats just me.
sacrablue
I’m not sure what I am doing wrong but I’m in moderation hell for the second time in 48 hours. Please explain what I’m doing to get into trouble.
Valdivia
@Elizabelle:
sounds like an interesting evening. anyone else up for it?
Violet
@kc: This one is supposed to be a cassette. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Good-Sun-City-Artists-United-Against-Apartheid-/300903926614#vi-content
kc
@Violet:
I should do that.
In the meantime . . .
kc
@Violet:
Hey, thanks! I might actually still have my ancient cassette/CD player around somewhere . . .
maya
@lamh35: Just moar gigs in Flamydia for Ted Nugent I suppose.
Roger Moore
@geg6:
Well, the Constitution does talk about “advice and consent”; the Republicans are just saying they’ll deny consent unless Obama takes their advice. See, all strict constructiony and everything!
aimai
@lamh35: The real question is will the grandchildren boycott Florida? I wouldn’t be caught dead in Florida, or even in my declining years, if it weren’t for the fact that my spouse’s parents moved there full time and are very frail. They already vote straight progressive ticket, though, so it seems cruel to refuse to go see them in order to boycott Florida’s craptacular legislation/legislators.
Elizabelle
@Valdivia:
It would be so cool if you were up for it. Missed you at Car Pool. I think you was ailing.
Violet
@kc: Reminds me of his “Biko.” Bringing back a lot of memories of that time. Hard to believe Mandela was still in prison during all that, given all the changes that have happened since his release. Time moves slowly and yet so fast.
Gex
@lamh35: So once again heads they win, tails Dems lose.
Let’s just go to a one party system. That’s what all the patriotest patriots want.
Valdivia
@Elizabelle:
I was ailing but I have been pretty healthy this summer and this movie sounds great. and this is really near my house too :)
hopefully we can make it happen!
Elizabelle
@BIBLE_DUDE1:
That’s funny.
Violet
@aimai: If it became a movement, your progressive in-laws might want you to boycott Florida. But outside of people who have family there, who will no doubt still want to visit their family members, there are plenty of people around the country who visit Florida for Disneyworld and other Orlando attractions, who go to Miami for the club scene, etc. Those are the people who would be the best to target, not family members visiting grandparents.
gogol's wife
I’m probably not going with the flow, but has anyone been watching Endeavour, the Inspector Morse prequel? Last night’s episode was fantastic. The plots are ridiculous, in the Morse tradition, but Shaun Evans and Roger Allam are tearing up the place with their acting.
ranchandsyrup
@BIBLE_DUDE1: I’d guess that a large percentage of commenters have already read the literature you would bring but still disagree with you.
JPL
@askew: Once there is a Republican President, they certainly will end the filibuster if they are in control. The news will report that it was Harry Reid’s fault.
Gex
@BD of MN: I’d be up for a Twin Cities meet up.
Roger Moore
@Gex:
They don’t want a one party system. They just want to go back to the days of only white male property owners over the age of 21 voting. They’ll be fine with any political parties that exist under those voting rules.
Gex
@Roger Moore: Fair point. They only look like they want one party because they’ve pushed the undesirables onto what they consider the B ark. Economic fairness between the richest white guys and the poorest white guys will be back on the table for consideration after they jettison the B ark.
BIBLE_DUDE1
@ranchandsyrup: no its stuff ive written
gogol's wife
@BIBLE_DUDE1:
The Bible?
JPL
@Roger Moore: Scalia will vote for that and Thomas and Alito will happily follow. When Mrs. Alito cried upon releasing she lost her right to vote, her husband made a funny face and said “you lie”
BIBLE_DUDE1
@ranchandsyrup: i probably wouldn’t be able to come anyway because I have 4 male children, but it’s possible
JCT
@piratedan: Yup — we’re the two from Tucson, though I’m pretty sure there are a few more Phoenix Juicers.
ranchandsyrup
@BIBLE_DUDE1: Why not post it here then? Or link to it, etc.? Or must your interaction be IRL?
BIBLE_DUDE1
@gogol’s wife: I would never say that please stop posting statements like that.
Roger Moore
@Gex:
No, it won’t. Fairness between the richest white guys and the moderately well off white guys may be an acceptable issue, but property ownership requirements will make sure that poor whites will be ignored.
maya
@BIBLE_DUDE1: Only if it’s printed on soft ply.
BIBLE_DUDE1
@ranchandsyrup: maybe an abbreviated vbersion of some stuff., but it’s all on paper so it would be hard
ranchandsyrup
@BIBLE_DUDE1: It’s not that hard to scan it and then link to it. If it’s that earth-shattering, share your brilliance……….
muddy
@efgoldman: No, no, silly, it’s the moose who have the worms in the brains. That’s why they are always coming to town and getting tangled in swing sets. I rarely see a human Vermonter do that.
BIBLE_DUDE1
@maya: hm I don’t have access to a printer that would print that I don’t think. Also, if it rained it could destroy the document.
Quinerly
Been a lurker for years but Tunch’s death and this little community’s reaction has made me want to post more often. Anyone ever interested in a St. Louis, Mo area meet up? I’m a 30 year “Soulardian.” Great neighborhood to party in.
muddy
@beltane: Can’t get there from here.
Hill Dweller
@gogol’s wife: I caught last night’s episode, and enjoyed it, but didn’t realize there had been a pilot and previous episode in this series. So, I went back and watched those on the PBS website, which were also good.
Morse(Evans) and Thursday(Allam) really make the show.
ITV has decided to do another series of four episodes.
ranchandsyrup
@BIBLE_DUDE1: Take it to kinko’s, Dude. They’ll scan it for you.
BIBLE_DUDE1
@ranchandsyrup: my penmanship is not the best and I am sensitive about it.
ranchandsyrup
@BIBLE_DUDE1: Not too sensitive to bring it to an in real life meetup, though. You’re contradicting yourself a bit.
Gex
@Roger Moore: Correct again. The poor whites get the consolation prize of feeling superior to the others. Something for everyone! (Everyone that matters that is.)
muddy
@gogol’s wife: I like the show, but there is no way in hell that young man aged into Morse. I might not have remembered except for watching old Morse episodes recently. Old Morse was an asshole!
BIBLE_DUDE1
@ranchandsyrup: Not really, people are generally kinder in person than on the net.
Also, I f they could not read my handwriting they could easly ask what I had written whereas online people might just skip over the word or sentence in question.
lamh35
@Violet: I’m trying to do my lil part (without going to twitter jail for spamming…lol)
maya
@BIBLE_DUDE1: Not so. You could turn it into a paper mache Pieta.
ranchandsyrup
@BIBLE_DUDE1: I kinda doubt that people would want to devote their time at a meetup with a bunch of others to delving into your writings so I was trying to suggest a better way but you seem reluctant. That’s life.
I’d submit that your documents would be in danger at a bar of being spilled on (food and drink) and other mishaps.
Valdivia
@Elizabelle:
if none of the other dc’ers pipes up maybe we can just make it a meet up of two :)
I will check on the thread again later see if anyone else wants to meet us and/or if we are set for the 7 showing at west end.
lamh35
ok, I made it shorter:
MikeJ
@lamh35:
I I I
Ain’t gonna play Sun City
suzanne
Y’all are adorable.
Anyone down for a Phoenix/AZ meetup???
Violet
@MikeJ:
See upthread.
@lamh35: Awesome! Good for you! Maybe include the “Ain’t Gonna Play Sun City” video link. This could be a modern day version.
MaryRC
@muddy: Wasn’t Morse just the surliest snot in Oxford? Hated that guy. I missed this weekend’s episode of Endeavour but last weekend it ended in typical Morse fashion with young Morse mooning unrequitedly over a woman who barely noticed him, so no wonder he turned into such a pill.
This is why I like Inspector Lewis so much (apart from Hathaway, of course). After years of being treated like a dolt by Morse, Lewis finally gets to shine.
MikeJ
@Violet: Argh. Great minds, etc.
schrodinger's cat
Anne Laurie @ top
I wrote up a post this morning unrelated to the whole sad Martin affair, about a pet peeve of mine. How percentages are misused/misunderstood in the MSM, even an economist who should know better does it.
*Bonus, it has a lol kitteh!
schrodinger's cat
@lamh35: I responded to you in thread below about Baba Wawa, she has been doing fluff interviews for a long time.
rdldot
@efgoldman: There are a few OBWI commenters here. I remember you too even though I rarely commented (and rarely comment here either). Russell does my talking for me, so what’s the point. Can’t really add any more after him. OBWI is still knocking around, but much lazier over there than in the past.
James E. Powell
@askew:
Personally, I think the GOP nukes the filibuster completely if they gain control of the Senate.
I agree. And I believe it will and would have happened no matter what Democrats might do while they were in the majority. The ‘nuclear option’ was floated out there by Frist. The country, to the extent they were aware of it, were told either that it was all due to Democratic bullying or “both sides do it.” It would not have cost the Republicans politically to nuke the filibuster then, it won’t now.
Remember, the very partisan supreme court ruled that we should not count votes to determine who won a presidential election. The country, the great mass of Americans, had no problem with that at all.
mai naem
@Violet: I bought that album – I think I bought it in cassette. I have no idea what happened to it. I lost a bunch of cassettes/cds during one of my moves, years ago. Anyhow, I cannot believe they’re asking $125 for a cd. I did see the cassette on Amazon for $5.00 I don’t know if you want to go through the hassle but my sister got a bunch of her tapes converted to cds a while back. I seem to remember she got the conversion doohicky off Woot but I’ve seen it on different sites. She also got a bunch of her personal VHS tapes converted to digital stuff by a company for not that much. I would think a place like that would do it for you but I don’t know if that is legal.
lahke
Sorry I’m so late to this thread. I’ve printed out a Tunch picture to display so that folks can locate us, and reserved a small table just to hold a place.
Could folks email AnneLaurie (annelaurie at verizon.net — click on ‘Conctact’ in right-hand column) to RSVP so that I can let Watch City know our real required table size?
Thank you, Bible Dude, but I do NOT want your handouts emailed to me…..
schrodinger's cat
I is sad that the meetup is near Boston, no love for folks in western Mass?
Roger Moore
@lahke:
Don’t forget the green balloons.
mk3872
Geez, it’s middle of summer and you all look like white ghosts! Doesn’t the sun ever shine in Seattle ??
mai naem
Looking at the pic, I really thought Yatsuno and PsiFi were younger. Not that they look ancient or anything. I thought they were relatively recent college grads – not that that means anything any more either.
lamh35
@schrodinger’s cat: yeah, I read it thx.
I’m only 36, so really the only Walters I know is from the Oscar special/occasional world leader/The View
Jebediah
@Yatsuno:
Well, you seem jolly and not at all crying in the picture, so I guess I have to believe you. I’ll just re-adjust the mental image…
Elizabelle
@Valdivia:
Excellent. And we will mention it a few more times.
The director put in a personal appearance when movie ran at the AMC Hoffman Center, but I missed that evening.
Got to support artists. It’s brave to have a movie out in limited release.
schrodinger's cat
@lamh35: I actually saw that interview I wrote about in a teaching seminar, it was in black white, not in real time when it aired.
Jebediah
@raven:
I had a picture of a 6′ – 6’2″ Eurasian.
PurpleGirl
@gogol’s wife: Yes, I’m watching Endeavour. I love it. I rather really like Allam’s Insp. Thursday. I like that they use Phelong’s theme music after the Morse Code opening segment. I’ve been waiting for the series since they had the pilot last year (?). Of course, Oxford is again a character and gets lots of screen time. I iz happy TV watcher.
JordanRules
@suzanne: I’m definately down for a desert meet-up!
Omnes Omnibus
@gogol’s wife: I have been. Last night, my PBS station went from it to a Great Performances production of Rigoletto. Nice segue, huh?
Summer
Oops! Ever so late, having gone to Moral Monday, but North Carolina Balloon Juicers are having what I think is our first meetup tonight at 8 p.m. at Geer St. Garden in Durham. There are just two of us so far, but we plan to totally build a vibrant community and work together to schedule another meetup soon. Toasts to Tunch (and photographic evidence to follow).
MikeJ
@Omnes Omnibus: Was it you that asked for a Pike pin?
quannlace
Tonight on TMC. A great British comedy, ‘The Wrong Box’
lamh35
@schrodinger’s cat: ahhhh. ok, yeah. I have never thought of Walters as hard-hitting. And from what people are saying, she never was.
Violet
@MikeJ: No worries! Just thought you might want to comment on what we were commenting on. The more people who remember “Ain’t Gonna Play Sun City” and connect it with Florida and think of a boycott, the better!
quannlace
Oops, meant TCM.
gogol's wife
@muddy:
Oh, I thought it was just barely plausible. Morse has a sensitive side. Have you seen “Dead on Time”?
Cassidy
Oooh, a Boston meet up! Maybe Special Timmeh can come and bring his crayons.
Omnes Omnibus
@MikeJ: No. I thought I told you on Sunday. ‘Tweren’t me. Thanks though.
gogol's wife
@ranchandsyrup:
i’m starting to think it’s a spoof.
PurpleGirl
@MaryRC: I liked Inspector Lewis but I loved Hathaway. Laurence Fox is kinda alien looking — being tall, thin and lanky — but he was so good in that role. He was a good contrast to Lewis’s working class background, but the two of them worked well together.
gogol's wife
@MaryRC:
Oh, heavens, I adore Morse! And John Thaw!
maya
@BIBLE_DUDE1: Uh, dood. You’re the one saying it could get rained on which would make it a soggy mess. Can’t you remember your own drivel?
I said nothing about “hitting or destroying” anything. If it’s your property it’s your property. I have no desire or interest to deprive you of your life’s work.
After 16 years of a RC education and possessing a minor in Theology and Philosophy, (required at a Jesuit institution) I seriously doubt there is much you could open my eyes to.
Lastly, my blog nym is in memory of the most loyal dog I ever had. I’ve used it for a long time, but I’m not a woman. But thank you anyway for your Rushbo imitation. I knew you had it in you somewhere.
Omnes Omnibus
@gogol’s wife: Yeah, I don’t get the hatred for Morse. Especially here in Curmudgeon City (which Stevie would certainly play)
beltane
@efgoldman: My 99 year old grandmother moved to Florida in the early ’70s and I remember childhood visits there being a form of torture because it was so hot, flat, and artificial looking. Her funeral will be the last time I set foot in that state as nothing else could induce me to ever go there again.
gogol's wife
@quannlace:
Preceded at 8:12 by a Johnny Carson interview with Reagan, then Jonathan Winters.
gogol's wife
@Omnes Omnibus:
You do see the sneaking resemblance between Morse and our blog host? I know it’s subtle, but it’s there.
IowaOldLady
We recorded Morse last night and just watched the first half before Mr IOL had to go play bridge. Even when it’s far-fetched, it’s better than most of what’s on.
Back when Stevie was Little Stevie, he lived across the street from one of my great aunts.
gbear
@Schlemizel: I’d be game for a Twin Cities meetup. I’m in St. Paul but I can find Minneapolis if that works out best. I missed out on Kay’s meetup at Brit’s when she was in town for Netroots (she probably still hates that bar for not letting her save a table). I actually went there but couldn’t find anybody and the place was super packed. I gave up and went record shopping instead.
Omnes Omnibus
@gogol’s wife: Cole has a vintage Jag?
joel hanes
@aimai:
Wow, thats the nicest thing anyone will ever say to me about my posting at OW
Hunh. I never told you, but I thought you were a great contributor, and I’m sorry you no longer comment there.
gogol's wife
@Omnes Omnibus:
I doubt it. And opera is probably not on at his house, but there was that brief Beethoven fad.
Johnny Coelacanth
I’d go to a Vegas Balloon-Juice meetup. I think there’d be two of us.
Omnes Omnibus
@Johnny Coelacanth: I bet PsiFighter37 would fly in.
Thoughtcrime
Another reason to boycott Florida:
http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/civil/inmates-untreated-fatal-stroke-results-in-1-million-settlement-by/2130278#comments
raven
I love the emerald coast of Florida.
lamh35
Wow!! Just wow. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but if this really is the juror who’s signed with a book agent, then I’m beginning to believe that the prosecution threw this damn case!!!
George Zimmerman Juror B37 Hates Media, Called Trayvon ‘A Boy of Color’
scav
FL? Keep Your Ground. We’ll Keep Our Distance.
Davis X. Machina
@Omnes Omnibus: I thought Old Morse was one of the most believable fictional characters I’d ever seen on the telly-box. The RW is full of Morses — probably 1 prof in 4 I ever had qualified. The day-long buffeting by dim people takes a cumulative toll.
raven
Anderson Cooper is going to have one of the jurors on now.
Omnes Omnibus
@lamh35: Sadly, that might have been the best of the people available. However, that someone said “boy of color” in 2013 is mindboggling.
ranchandsyrup
@gogol’s wife: Not a particularly good one either.
Violet
@lamh35: How old was that juror? 100? That’s about the only reason I could imagine for someone to use the phrase “a boy of color” in 2013.
raven
The juror is talking about the witness that was a “doctor” in the war and how he was the best witness at all. She’s talking about the guy that was a medic in the Nam. Not mensa here folks.
All but one juror thought it was Z on the audio.
schrodinger's cat
@efgoldman: There is and it is pretty.
gelfling545
@JPL: This is why I feel the Democrats should just go ahead & end it. At least that way we’d get some benefit from it.
Mnemosyne
Damn, you search one wedding site for bartender recommendations and suddenly all of your BJ ads are WEDDING WEDDING WEDDING.
raven
Jesus, she couldn’t understand Rachel Jenteal.
raven
@lamh35: I think the one on CNN is B37 and she is not any old person, not even close.
yep, it’s b37.
ruemara
@Darkrose: I’d do it.
Kevin the Hen
@Summer: Dang, wished I’da known earlier – I am in Durham! Do let me know when the next one is. Geer St. is a great place – you can bring dogs, too.
Gex
@efgoldman: The brother-out-law always invited me and Kate to go visit him in Florida. He really could not understand why I will not go to that state.
maya
@lamh35: There’s not much to be accomplished by reviewing this travesty with Monday QBing on the trial itself,. What to watch now is how DOJ handles this now. If there is one appointment of Obama that I have a serious problem with and always had, it’s that jellyfish of an AG, Holder. Jesus Christ, Ashcroft had more spine than him
He’ll fumble it off as is his usual want. This time he’s got the perfect excuse: He would look “racist” if he had DOJ take on a civil rights suit against Zimmerman, which could also go to the heart of all those SYG laws. Way too much to concentrate on when there are leakers to pursue.
SIA
@PurpleGirl: Is Lewis over? I know they were both talking about leaving at the end of the last episode.
Anne Laurie
@aimai:
I suspect if enough people announce in the social media that they’re not going to the giant tourist attractions — Disney, SeaWorld, Universal, etc — that might well be enough to get the legislator’s attention. Conventions, too — I know Orlando lives & dies on giant bookings for trade shows & such, so the peple who attend those business bashes need to announce that Intl SEO Optim-Apps Marketing, Inc will be looking at other cities for their 2015 bookings, if attention is to be paid.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
Just had a friend offer to bring John a kitten. She’s driving through WV next week.
I suggested she contact Anne Laurie about a bleg post instead.
ruemara
@lamh35: FUCK. FUCKING FUCKTARD FUCKBASKETS OF ROTTED FUCK. I’m go cook something because I need to go use a knife on somethin.
@maya: And the fact that this AG has been fighting for voting rights and has already re-opened the civil rights case, would that affect your pre-made up mind?
Betty Cracker
God, the juror on AC360 is a dipshit. In addition to what Raven noted above, she also said that Officer Serino’s stated belief that GZ was telling the truth had a huge impact. The judge told them to disregard that statement. Also, she says that right after the trial, 2 jurors wanted to convict on manslaughter and 1 one on murder 2.
jo6pac
Thanks
lamh35
@maya: Don’t know if u are snarking or not, but my snark-ometer has been off since the verdict, so I am unfortunately on my very last “give a fuck”…right now, so I’m not even gonna try anymore. enjoy my pie filiter til I have more “fucks to give”
raven
@Betty Cracker: I figured I was just pied by most people but maybe they just moved on. This seems pretty important to me.
“George has learned a lesson”.
lamh35
@Betty Cracker: remember that simmering festering anger I said I felt the day after the verdict. It’s def boiling over now.
Anne Laurie
@schrodinger’s cat: Well, you guys can set up your own! Or we can try to get more advance notice for the next one, maybe you could drive out towards the water?
lamh35
@raven: I’m following on twitter and the shit this woman is saying is un-fuckin’-believable!
raven
@lamh35: Unfortunately it’s not unbelievable.
beltane
@lamh35: It tells us that that the prosecution was in cahoots with the police and Zimmerman from day one. There’s no other way this klanswoman would have made it through voir dire. And yet the Supreme court tells us that institutionalized racism is a thing of the past.
Baud
@lamh35:
I wonder if she’s trying to cause the riot they seem to want so badly.
YellowJournalism
@raven: I take back any benefit of the doubt I gave the jury back in one of the first trial threads.
Fuck! *headdesk*
debbie
I heard on NPR a couple of hours ago that one of the jurors has already signed a book deal.
Betty Cracker
@raven: Yes. In the context of Zimmerman would be a good Neighborhood Watch participant in her neighborhood. FFS.
The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik
Between that Juror and all that I’ve fucking read that treats the not-guilty verdict for Zimmerman necessarily meant that Martin was guilty and thus deserved his fate, and I’m just….bleh.
I’ve gone from misanthropic to genocidal to simply….empty. I give up. America is a racist shithole of a land and I give up.
beltane
@debbie: The POS being interviewed on CNN is the one with the book deal.
Comrade Jake
@Summer: I’m in Durham as well. Lets set up another one!
Violet
@Betty Cracker: So it really was a jury of his peers. Ugh.
smith
I have no idea why people torture themselves watching the crapfest that is CNN.
I have no words for that moron of a juror if she is saying what you guys are saying she said. Ignorant, ignorant, ignorant.
As for the meet-ups, I like putting faces to the names, even if I mostly lurk here rather than post. I know there have been meet-ups in my area before but I am pretty shy in person – I don’t think I’d be any fun at a meet-up.
raven
“It’s hard that someone lost there life but there was nothing that could be done about it”.
raven
@smith: Nah. we are independently making it up.
smith
@raven:
I just refuse to watch CNN. You guys have stronger stomachs than I do.
Comrade Jake
I’ve read that lawyers want morons on juries because they’re impressionable. This lady seems determined to prove the point.
raven
@smith: This has nothing to do with what network it is on.
suzanne
@JordanRules: COOL. I will send Anne Laurie my email address (would rather not post it where T&H can see it), and we can go from there.
Four Peaks? Casey Moore’s?
beltane
@Comrade Jake: I don’t think this one was impressionable at all. This racist fuck supported Zimmerman’s actions to the hilt and there was nothing that could ever convince her otherwise.
raven
She is the book person and her husband is an attorney!
schrodinger's cat
@Anne Laurie: I could. Or we could have a meet-up in Northampton in fall and the Bostonians could drive to see the fall colors?
David Koch
@Betty Cracker:
It’s mind boggling that they caved in on a murder case after a only a day so they could go home!
Comrade Jake
Now Piers has Rachel Jeantel on. Jesus.
JordanRules
@suzanne: Sounds good! Why did I read that as Twin Peaks first tho?? I was thinking, the Irish Hooters huh, that’s an umm interesting suggestion. Then my brain corrected.
smith
@raven:
No need to be a cunt.
raven
@smith: Yea dumb ass that’s get you a long way here.
JordanRules
@David Koch: It’s easy and fun as fuck to go home when you’re white, less dangerous too.
Roger Moore
@efgoldman:
California has switched to one day, one trial, and it’s been a big benefit. One of the major driving forces behind reform was the Chief Justice of the California Supreme Court getting called for jury duty and winding up serving on a jury. He became a really strong advocate of a variety of reforms to the jury duty system, including one day, one trial. It’s a great example of exactly why important, powerful people shouldn’t be exempted from the same daily problems the rest of us have. If our elected representatives had to suffer through the same crappy service the rest of us encounter at government offices, there would be a lot more call for reform.
lamh35
ICYMI: Here is the interview with the Zimmerman juror just now on AC360!!! Please have a stiff drink in hand before watching!!!!
http://jezebel.com/juror-b37-says-shed-be-fine-with-zimmerman-in-her-neig-794172587
raven
“My hope is that people will read Juror B37’s book, written with her attorney husband, and understand the commitment it takes to serve and be sequestered on a jury in a highly publicized murder trial and how important, despite one’s personal viewpoints, it is to follow the letter of the law,” the president of Martin Literary Agency, wrote in a statement.
Central Planning
I’ll throw in for meetup in Rochester (NY). Who else would represent?
ruemara
@lamh35: No. I’m throwing some vodka into my coffee and playing azeroth to forget this shit.
Kay
@lamh35:
“He was frustrated and things got out of hand”
Jesus. She uses “George”. Did she use Martin’s name at any point?
raven
@Kay: Yes
Pink Snapdragon
@Elizabelle: I’m up for it if it fits in my schedule (part-time job on the weekend).
lamh35
@Kay: only when asked a direct question and the use of “George” was all in defense of Zimmerman.
corry342
@Summer: Mark me down as another Juicer who would love to attend a Durham event. My work takes me out of town, but if I’m around I’m in for sure.
Mnemosyne
@raven:
They let a juror through whose husband was an attorney? Jaysus, I almost got thrown out of a jury pool in California because my father was a retired real estate lawyer in Illinois who never made an appearance in court. How the fuck did that happen?!
Kay
@raven:
Thanks.
I’m having trouble accepting why they didn’t question his story. I understand the legal.issue, but I can’t wrap.my head around how Zimmerman needed a reason to shoot Martin but they accepted NO reason for Martin to attack Zimmerman.
He attacked Zimmerman because Zimmerman called the police? How does that make any sense? He didn’t commit a crime UNTIL he found out the police were on the way?
raven
@Mnemosyne: Every time I get called I get put on a jury. I know the public defender and a shit load of lawyers. Never matters, I get profiled.
wuzzat
I will hopefully see the Boston crew in Waltham. :)
raven
@Kay: You need to watch the entire interview with the juror.
beltane
@Kay: You are overthinking this. If someone is of a mindset that tells them that “those people” are always up to no good, then all the rest makes sense. If someone is not of this mindset the whole thing is incomprehensible.
Kay
@lamh35:
Thanks. I felt as if they didn’t make him real to the jurors. I didn’t feel he was “there” and that bothers me, because it turned into HIS trial.
PeakVT
The double jeopardy clause is a very good thing, but in this case it just doesn’t seem right. The juror is clearly biased, clearly misunderstood the instructions, and appears to have been working on a book deal during the process. If there was a conviction and the juror was just as biased in the other direction, I think the conviction would be thrown out in a heartbeat on appeal.
raven
@Kay:Without any discussion of race no less.
4tehlulz
@raven: Jury nullification is the letter of the law? You learn something new every day.
Kay
@Mnemosyne:
I got put on a muni ct jury when my husband was the felony prosecutor.
I told tge babysitter I’d be back in 2 hours. Nope!
It was just a misdemeanor, but still.
The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik
@Kay:
And the worst part is how this has somehow turned into vindication across America that 1) Blacks really are all thugs and 2) Reverse Racism is the only true racism left in America.
Just….guh. I can’t stand to read or watch anything anymore at this point. The Self-congratulatory bullshit plus the apologia for racism because apparently on racism against whites actually exists in this country to so goddamn many of them is just…fuck it. I’ve just exhausted all the fucks I have to give about things anymore.
Mnemosyne
@raven:
Yeah, but you’re in Georgia. The prosecutor thinks you’re his perfect juror: white, male, over 60, you’ll vote to convict for sure!
I’m guessing you’ve given them some unpleasant surprises. :-)
Kay
@raven:
I think they coukd have done a better job collecting physical evidence.
Then they wouldn’t have to rely on George’s story.
jamick6000
@The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik: it’s an unarmed black kid who’s dead. people are piling layers of bullshit on this case to obscure that fact.
Kay
@The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik:
I know we’re on the same page on this. Everything that bothers me bothers you.
Valdivia
@Elizabelle:
yay. I will be there around 6:45. just look for the very very tall person wearing something in black :)
LongLost
@gbear: I was at the NetRoots meetup. We missed you. I’m also down for gathering in either of our fair cities sometime soon (Gnome is a great idea!)
/checking in (way too late) from the north loop of DT Mpls
Kay
@The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik:
So I understand the legal.issues, I know it’s The State not Martin v Zimmerman, but because of the posture, where they essentially had to find Martin guilty of attacking Zimmerman (I don’t think that’s what happened) I’m just obsessing over the idea that Martin wasn’t represented.
Ted & Hellen
@Omnes Omnibus:
When did “person of color” go out of style?
I was not notified…
Elizabelle
@Pink Snapdragon:
Wonderful. Will be nice to see you again, even though you’ve aged in the meantime.
The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik
@Kay:
It’s just galling on so many levels. Especially how it’s yet another bullet point to how, since ’08, it’s suddenly become OK to be racist because racism is dead and the only real racism left is reverse racism and FJLDHSKFJHDNK
Lyrebird
@lamh35: Late to the party (the wake?) here, but respect to you… and no I will not watch that link and listen to that juror, but yes I did just make all of my so-called-[FB]-friends watch Sweet Honey in the Rock sing “We who believe in freedom cannot rest” (aka Ella’s Song)
Thanks to all BJ’ers for maintaining my faith in humanity!
Kay
@The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik: @The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik:
That’s the thing, though! It’s this crazy, conflicted rage!
The Politico guy. That moron.
“Damn you President Obama! You made us racists again!”
WTF? What is anyone supposed to do with that? ” Oh, ok, we’ll stop making you racists”
MomSense
@Kay:
It feels like Martin was the one on trial. I keep thinking of the U2 song. How long must we sing this song?
Ted & Hellen
@suzanne:
lol
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@raven: You hate me if you mean we all need to watch that whole interview. And I love you because you’re weak – I admit it. (michelle said so)
Steeplejack
Re Inspector Morse:
I have enjoyed the three Endeavour episodes, and I can see Constable Endeavour Morse plausibly growing into curmudgeonly Inspector Morse years later. They are both impatient misfits—“good detective, poor policeman,” as it was brought out last night—but Endeavour can’t reveal his frustration because he’s the low man on the totem pole. Inspector Morse has the luxury of experience and rank that Constable Morse doesn’t.
The evil-genius-serial-killer plot of “Fugue” was over the top, but the previous week’s, “Girl,” was within bounds (except for the severed fingers), in my opinion. But what really makes the show are the performances. Shaun Evans is fine as Endeavour Morse, Roger Allam is excellent as Inspector Thursday, and the supporting cast is good—the jealous Sergeant Jakes, the doughty Constable Strange and the truly awful Superintendent Bright.
By coincidence, one of the lesser PBS stations here has been showing the original Inspector Morse episodes in order, and over the last few months I have caught up with those, and with various episodes new and old of Inspector Lewis. All of them together make an interesting trilogy. Last week was the penultimate episode of Inspector Morse—it was only the week before that that we finally learned Morse’s given name—and I’m awaiting/dreading the final episode, “The Remorseful Day,” this week. I don’t think I saw it when it first came out. I sort of know how it ends, but it will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Elie
Hope to make contact with youze guys (and gals) before too long as I head back to the Northwest….
Kay
@MomSense:
Is there no restraint? The idiot brother has to come out and invent a drug running story, the juror has to make sure we know she relied on what she was TOLD to disregard.
Are they trying to.make this worse?
Valdivia
@Steeplejack:
I have been thinking about you when I was watching Endeavour. Like you I think it is all in the acting. The last episode of Morse is a killer. I saw all the episodes years ago and thought they were amazing. He was an incredible actor and was in some other series where he plays a judge I think.
I wanted to recommend an italian movie based on a scandinavian mystery The Girl by the Lake, saw it a few weeks ago, really very very good. It’s on netflix on disc.
Hope you’re enjoying the heat here :)
PsiFighter37
@Omnes Omnibus: The ironic thing is that I will be in Vegas in 4 weeks.
PF37 +5 in Alaska
zamphuor
@Central Planning:
Just a lurker here, but I’d be interested in a Rochester meet up. I’m about an hour away.