Charlie Rose has a new show on PBS. Here’s all you need to know:
I’m going to let you in on a little secret, and I hope you won’t judge me too harshly: I don’t give to my local PBS station anymore. If I can give to a program directly (like This American Life), I’ll give. But I’ll be god-damned and fucked sideways before I spend a penny that might go to support Johnny Walker’s best friend Charlie.
(Thanks to reader J for sending this in.)
Violet
How many shows does Charlie Rose have? Isn’t he still doing that morning weekday show on CBS? Does The Charlie Rose show still exist? I’ve never watched it, so I don’t have any idea if it exists or not.
Do you think Friedman will gift us with another “Suck on this.” gem?
dewzke
off topic, but fuck Mickelson and his “oh, California taxes are too high! I’m moving to Arizona!”
Keith G
Yes PBS does somethings wrong, but it does so much more that is very good and not replicated elsewhere. So unless you are giving individually to all the good programs, your methodology can cause real damage to others in your community who need that other programming but can not contribute. Please don’t be so short-sighted. Please don’t act like a wing nut.
bill d
That’s some cutting edge stuff right there, better hide the children.
c u n d gulag
IT’S “MUST SEE TV!!!”
So I’ll turn away, and see something on some other channel.
Librarian
This is a new show? How is this any different from his old show?
Villago Delenda Est
Charlie hosts two prime candidates for early tumbrel rides.
Quel surprise!
Jon H
@Keith G: “Yes PBS does somethings wrong, but it does so much more that is very good and not replicated elsewhere.”
In CT they mostly show fundraisers wrapped around cheesy “Celtic Thunder” concerts, and things of that ilk.
Seems like most weekends are full of this crap.
Alison
My response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5ZSDCvUwN8
srv
TAL is just turning into another snooze hour, it’ll be hip to hate it in another year or so like TED and Charlie Rose.
MomSense
Meet the new show. Same as the old show.
mistermix
@srv: I’ll cop to being something of a totebagger, so I do like TAL, but Charlie Rose is just a bridge too far.
eric
how about a sports show hosted by dave zinn…..that i would watch.
GregB
That line-up has all the freshness of plastic flowers soaked in formaldehyde and smothered with Cheese-Wiz.
schrodinger's cat
TF has another WTF op-ed in NYT this morning. He is pimping another social media start-up. He thinks you can make a living by renting out a room in your house.
NobodySpecial
@schrodinger’s cat: I could make a living by renting out a lot of rooms in his house, I know him and the missus aren’t using them.
SiubhanDuinne
@GregB:
With a side of Twinkies.
the Conster
I know I need three white well off middle aged jackoffs mansplainin’ since I never hear opinions from that perspective. WTF
Ruckus
@GregB:
And sounds about as tasty and healthy.
BTW, nice phrasing. It immediately formed a picture in my head. Also thanks, now I can’t get it out.
Keith G
@Jon H: Indeed fundraiser week has become a pain in the ass because the programs I like are nowhere to be seen. But it must be working because they keep on doing it.
beltane
Sure, the lineup sucks now, but give it six months and we might see some improvement.
FlipYrWhig
@Keith G: For “PBS” read “the Democratic Party,” perhaps? :P
gbear
Well, if anyone could rent out a room in Tom Friedman’s house, they probably could make enough to live on. Renting out a room in our own dumpy little houses, not so much.
MikeInSewickley
I’m the same way on giving to United Way. There is all kind of pressure to give during the annual drive (“You’re one of the ones keeping us from 100% donations!!!)
But only if the form allows me to give to specific organizations. I’ll be damned (pardon the pun) to see my money go to any of my local Catholic charities. That would be the Pittsburgh Diocese and they are one of the most right-wing tilted clans in the country, when it comes to “organized” religion.
So your pledge against pledging works for me.
Jerzy Russian
@dewzke: Yes, he needs shutting the fuck up lessons. I’ll trade jobs with him any day of the week.
? Martin
Well, Josh at TPM must be a reader because he’s got a ‘Peak Scalia‘ post up now. He is aware of all internet traditions:
Can we pass a new law that says once a justice has Godwinned SCOTUS, we can force him into retirement?
Librarian
Although I must admit that he does bring some gravitas to the CBS morning show. I happened on it accidentally and was surprised to see him on it.
eric
@beltane: *golf clap*
Ripley
So when Rose has Friedman on a panel and Jake Tapper joins in, “suck on this” will take on a whole new meaning, yes?
Ratings gold.
Keith G
@FlipYrWhig: Most human endeavors are a mixture of good and bad.
eric
@Keith G: don’t bring that weak ass shit to FDL. ;)
EthylEster
MisterMix, I’m with you on the matter of PBS support.
I stopped giving to the seattle flagship station because they spend so much time hyping (and much of it is HORRIBLE..Celtic Thunder, Daniel Amen, and other grifters). KCTS has this laughable end-of-program piece: “Now let’s take some time to thank the folks who brought you this.” Then they do commercials. News flash: showing a commercial is not thanking “someone”, its shilling for them. I shudder to think how many hours of programming a year are dedicated to fund-raising bullshit. It’s pretty much continual these days.
I still support the “other” PBS station here but really it is not that different. I have switched most of my dollars to public radio: their fundraisers are annoying but at least they shift some of it to the web AND do not do the radio equivalent of Celtic Thunder.
NoComment
@Jon H: Understand where you are coming from but not contributing, by default, leaves more of the funding (therefore control) to the likes of the Koch Brothers who for obvious reasons would much prefer Celtic Thunder, Celtic Women, Celtic Squirrel and whatever to shows like Frontline, Independent Lens and Bill Moyers.
Yatsuno
@EthylEster: Heh. They posted on Book of Faces that they’re hiring. I seriously thought about taking a peek at what was there.
NickT
@NoComment:
What, no Celtic Derp? The Kochs must be slipping.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@GregB: internets won, newsletter subscribed, all that jazz.
Villago Delenda Est
@? Martin:
But fascist judicial activism as practiced by Fat Tony is okeydokey okay, am I right?
Southern Beale
I stopped giving to my local PBS station when they caved to the fundies and pulled that episode of the kids’ show (something about a rabbit?) that featured Heather’s Two Mommies baking cookies. It was beyond stupid. I wrote them a letter and got the stupidest letter back, too. Can’t even remember the details but it was your typical tote-bagger prevaricating. I thought, fuckit. You’re already dead, you just don’t know it yet.
NickT
@Villago Delenda Est:
Well, it was clearly beneficial to certain societies in the 1930s…
Southern Beale
I have a thread up about horrible movies if anyone wants to share theirs….
Gindy51
@MikeInSewickley: We quit United Way decades ago when they were shooting money to the Boy Scouts. Sorry no way, United Way. We give directly to any charity or candidate.
kuvasz
Re: Charlie Rose.
Walter Lippmann referred to it as “the manufacturing of consent.”
Southern Beale
@Jon H:
Nashville as well. We do like to watch Rick Steves and the other Sunday travel shows, but it’s not like we’re getting in-depth programming at WNPT.
Redshift
@EthylEster: We need to remember that there was a time before Gingrich when PBS wasn’t expected to fully fund themselves and at most showed sponsor logos, not commercials, so that when the GOP goes the way of the Whigs, we can go back to that.
Keith
@dewzke: It’s because he can’t really say “I hate Mexicans, so I’m moving to where they round ’em up. YEEEE-HAWWWW!”
Redshift
I was actually in the audience for Charlie Rose years and years ago, because he was interviewing Art Buchwald. It was fine, but he didn’t make much of an impression as an interviewer.
It's Not The Fall, It's The Landing
Charlie Rose wasn’t so bad 20 years ago, but at some point during the Clinton presidency, sycophancy and drink got the better of him.
Now he’s completely worthless, nothing more than a toady for rich white conservative men and a conveyor belt for the worst in conventional Village “wisdom.” The mere sight of him makes me want to vomit.
Nutella
@schrodinger’s cat:
And TMOU shamelessly cribbed that from an article in the Economist in March. He failed to mention the regulatory and financial problems of unlicensed and uninsured hotels run out of apartments (must have misssed it in the Economist article) because that would interfere with his claim that everything’s different in the new! global! economy.
He seems very happy with this:
I wonder if that person’s neighbors and landlord and the people who run public services supported by lodging taxes are as happy.
quannlace
We have three different PBS stations on my cable line-up, and one of them is in almost perpetual fund-raising mode. (Tho when one starts, they all seem to chime in.) Add all those Doo-Wop shows and other Geezer Rock to the Celtic Thunder repeats.
It’s funny, I remember each decade having it’s own kind of theme. In the ’80’s it was All-Dysfunctional All The Time, with John Bradshaw’s two hour seminars on why you life sucks so bad. (I think his audiences had to be the most depressing looking lot I’ve ever seen.) But then a change of pace to the stupefying Joseph Campbell spending twenty episodes talking about ‘following your bliss.”
In the ’90’s lots of happy motivational speakers on how to recharge your business and your life.
These days it seems they’re catering to the aging baby boomers. Lots of shows about Thinking Young, Recharging Your Brain and Post Menapausal health. With lots of shilling of books and DVD’s in the intervals. They’re looking more and more like infomercials and this is what we’re supposed to throw money at?
castello
If you don’t like Charlie Rose you can always watch CNN, faux, nbc, abc or cbs. Enjoy 15 minutes of bs and 15 minutes of commercials. PBS is the only thing on the dial worth it’s weight.
Eric U.
Never gave to PBS and haven’t watched for decades. I used to give to NPR until I had just had too much. For some reason, they still call me. I realized I had done the right thing when I heard one of their paid staffers haranguing for money in the most offensive manner. I am pretty sure most stations figured out that was not a good idea long ago.
castello
Keep watching soap and car commercials :(
Bucky Reynolds
I don’t care how many shows Charlie Rose has running, he is still a fawning pr@#%k. He wants the love and acceptance of the rich and famous so much that it is pathetic. If the rich and famous went around a corner too fast Charlie would break his nose…
gogol's wife
@Keith G:
I give to two PBS stations, because of (1) Downton Abbey, (2) Lewis, (3) Endeavour, and (4) NovaFrontlineETCETCETC. I NEVER watch their news programming, so I don’t get mad at them.
NPR, now, that’s another story. Not until they institute back-to-back classical music programs.
I am not a kook
Oh please, spare me, you delicate snowflakes. One of the most depressing and annoying liberal hipsterism tropes is this public declaration that “I’m so cool, I don’t give to PBS/NPR/local public broadcaster like the TOTEBAGGERS”. OK, fine, you don’t and lots and lots of other people don’t either, so why do you have to make it into a badge of honor? Personally, some years I do, some I don’t but I’ve never felt the need to trumpet my choice far and wide.
The term “totebagger” was a funny joke at some point, but it seems to have replaced “sheeple” as the purer-than-thou casual put-down on this blog. And when you start referring to people like that, you’re just another douchebag on the internet.
And citing too many pledge drives as the reason not to donate… well, apart from the the cosmic irony, why are you even listening/watching if it annoys you so much?
(Yes, I agree that the public broadcasting news programs are ruled by a toothless and pompous gerantocracy. Where ARE the young hot shots? Luckily we won’t have to wait too long before these moldy shows shuffle off to the night.)
quannlace
“n that “I’m so cool, I don’t give to PBS/NPR/local public broadcaster like”
*********
Naah, the ultimate ‘I’m too cool’ comment is ‘I don’t even OWN a TV.”
Watership
@bill d: I thought you said, “better hide the chicken.” That too
Mnemosyne
@Nutella:
So the guy is super happy and excited that he managed to find people to essentially sublet his apartment less than one-third of the year? That’s what my calculations come out to — 100 nights. And what about cleaning, or did he not bother to have the apartment cleaned between guests? (In which case, ewwwww.)
I don’t necessarily have a problem with people deciding to sublet their apartments or condos in desirable areas — apartments and condos often have amenities that hotels don’t have, like full kitchens. But it’s not exactly a way for the rest of us not living in vacation destinations to make a living. I’m pretty sure no one is going to be excited at the prospect of staying in our two-bedroom apartment in beautiful North Glendale.
ChristianPinko
If you’re going to do a post on Charlie Rose, this link is pretty much mandatory.
mclaren
Charlie Rose sucks elite dick so hard the back of his head is about to cave in.
Come the Revolution, good old Charlie should be one of the first up against the wall facing the firing squad.
AHH onna Droid
@Keith G: lolol some poors in ur community haven’t felt gwen ifills cleansung sneer. Give generously.
Tehanu
@efgoldman:
The big scam with our local station, which shall remain nameless because they’re not even PBS any more, was that they would point to the “empty” treasury and beg for mo’ money — but the treasury was only “empty” because it was the end of the fiscal year and their government funding hadn’t arrived yet. Actually, now I come to think of it, the homeowners’ association where we used to live did the same thing. So now I’m just very, very dubious about that kind of plea.
Epicurus
@Redshift: I have never been able to get through a Rose “interview.” He never gives a guest a chance to finish an answer! His constant interruptions and badgering make me crazy. It’s not about you, Charlie, it’s about your guest! Ask a question and then shut. the. eff. up. Friedman is equally worthless, if not worse. No thanks, won’t be wasting my time watching this dreck.
Pococurante
Once you give KERA out of Dallas a chance you’ll never look at other NPR stations the same way again. They have subscribers from all over the world. I record shows off PBS but don’t watch it on any regular basis.
http://www.kera.org/listen/