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That Was Strange

by @heymistermix.com|  July 27, 20138:03 am| 95 Comments

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  1. 1.

    JPL

    July 27, 2013 at 8:06 am

    The ghost of Tunch strikes again. He didn’t want anyone to criticize his exercise routine and I don’t blame him.

  2. 2.

    AHH onna Droid

    July 27, 2013 at 8:15 am

    Yup, bj was down.

    So, can’t give you a link, but for a pure unfiltered dose of Central Florida racism, head to orlandosentinel.com, click on local and check out oviedo/seminole and Oviedo City Council’s comments about the jungle they must keep at bay with cops.

    How YOU durrrn?

  3. 3.

    ThresherK

    July 27, 2013 at 8:17 am

    Two gluten-free recipes I missed posting previously:

    I’ve enjoyed these quinoa and almond butter chocolate chip blondies, although I didn’t make them myself.

    I’ve enjoyed and made Alton Brown’s gluten-free chocolate chip cookies.

  4. 4.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 27, 2013 at 8:29 am

    @AHH onna Droid:

    So, can’t give you a link, but for a pure unfiltered dose of Central Florida racism

    I would prefer not to.

  5. 5.

    Baud

    July 27, 2013 at 8:52 am

    That Was Strange Normal

    FTFY. ;-)

  6. 6.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    July 27, 2013 at 9:03 am

    Thank you for blocking the obots.

  7. 7.

    Linda Featheringill

    July 27, 2013 at 9:04 am

    Hey, it’s working!

    Every time there is an online dysfunction, I fear it may be my fault. I check to see if I’ve actually paid the internet bill. I reboot my computer. And I worry about what sin I’m being punished for now.

    Yeah, life in the 21st century is a bit hard on me. :-)

  8. 8.

    rikyrah

    July 27, 2013 at 9:08 am

    The War Over Health Care Exchanges
    By THE EDITORIAL BOARD
    Published: July 26, 2013

    Federal and state governments are entering the home stretch in the race to carry out the most important health care reform in more than four decades. The most pressing task is to establish new health care exchanges, the electronic marketplaces in which consumers will be able to compare and buy insurance plans just as they buy airplane tickets or rent cars on the Internet.

    The exchanges are scheduled to start enrolling people on Oct. 1 in policies that will become effective in January 2014. It is a challenging task but not an impossible one, as long as Americans have a chance to learn how they can benefit from the coverage and from sliding-scale subsidies provided by the federal government under the Affordable Care Act.

    To their shame and discredit, Republicans are trying to block efforts to inform people about the law and are using scare tactics to keep them from enrolling. The Republican mantra is that the nation will face economic and medical catastrophe — a “train wreck,” they say — unless health care reform is stopped in its tracks.

    Their tactics are despicable. When Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of health and human services, revealed that she was talking with the National Football League and other athletic organizations about ways to inform their fans about insurance on the exchanges, the two highest-ranking Republican senators wrote a threatening letter that caused the league to back off.

    Crossroads GPS, a conservative group co-founded by the Republican strategist Karl Rove, has been running a video comparing the law to a tornado that will produce “a rising tide of health care costs” and leave “nobody safe from its wrath.”

    Top officials in Ohio and Indiana who oppose the law have issued dire, misleading forecasts — roundly debunked by analysts — that the law will raise premiums to astronomical levels. And the House Republican Conference is advising its members on how to organize “emergency health care” town hall meetings during the August recess to denounce the law. The goal is to ignite passionate opposition to the measure, like that stirred up by Tea Party activists at town hall meetings in the past.

    In virtually no case do Republicans ever mention that millions of people who lack health insurance or have lousy policies could obtain comprehensive coverage on the exchanges and that most of them would qualify for federal subsidies to lower the cost.

    Many states, mostly governed by Republicans, have refused to set up their own exchanges and have left the job to the federal government. (Many states also have refused to expand their Medicaid programs to cover more of the uninsured, but that is a separate issue.)

    nytimes.com/2013/07/27/opinion/the-war-over-health-care-exchanges.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

  9. 9.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 27, 2013 at 9:10 am

    This past week, the Capitol police in Madison started arresting participants in the Solidarity Singers for gathering in the Capitol without a permit. The informal group had been singing old union songs and such in the Capitol rotunda at noon M-Th and outside on Fridays since the protests in 2011. It had dwindled to a core group of 10 or so old hippies and similar folk* for the rotunda bits. Since the arrests started, numbers and interest have grown.

    Bit of context here, the legislature passed a very restrictive law on permitting following the 2011 protests. It was challenged in federal court and the trial is in January. A couple of weeks ago, the judge issued a TRO saying that the law was probably unconstitutional. The order forbids any content discrimination in permitting and says that the state may temporarily require permits for groups of 20 or more. This order also notes that it was only looking at the face of the policy and that the whole thing also may or may not be unconstitutional as applied – if used against left leaning groups but not righties, for example. On Wednesday of this week, there were 22 people present for the singalong. The police came in warned everyone and then, a little while later, started the arrests.

    This is Madison, WI; there always are random groups protesting something. The Walkerites could have just let this go and the group would have attracted no attention. They couldn’t do that; they had to punch the hippies.

    *Not criticizing, describing.

  10. 10.

    PaulW

    July 27, 2013 at 9:10 am

    Got my 25th high school reunion next week! …getting to the point where the alums are going to be bringing in pics of the grandkids. this is why shy people get reaaaaaally depressed half the time…

  11. 11.

    Zapruder F. Mashtots, D.D.S. (Mumphrey, et al.)

    July 27, 2013 at 9:12 am

    Every time I see the word “queries” I think of this letter some friends got while I was living in Honduras. The father was an American whose Spanish wasn’t great, so he wrote a letter to the cable compan about something he wasn’t happy with, and he wrote it in English.

    He got a letter back, from the president, no less, saying, we’ll work on it right away, we value your patronage, and so on. But what was so funny was that the guy, in trying to be solicitous, had written the letter in “English”. It was full of all kinds of mistakes, because clearly he had written it in English (or his secretary had) and then run it through the computer translator. But the two that stood out were that he wrote something like, “Do I hope to have answered all of your queers?” That was easy enough to understand, but the one that stumped everybody for a while was, “I hope to notice you that we took the time to answer your letter in Groins.”

    Nobody knew how the hell he got “Groins”. We knew that he meant “English”, but how he got from “English” to “Groins” was a headscratcher. Then somebody got it: “English” in Spanish is “Inglés” but “groin” in Spanish is “ingle”, so presto, If you forgot the accent on the e, you get Ingles, which the computer read as groins.

    We still joke about that.

  12. 12.

    dmsilev

    July 27, 2013 at 9:13 am

    I killed off a bunch of queries and blocked a couple of bots and it’s working now.

    Sacrificing a goat is also considered a helpful step in the WP troubleshooting process.

  13. 13.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 27, 2013 at 9:15 am

    @dmsilev: Only during a full moon.

  14. 14.

    Baud

    July 27, 2013 at 9:18 am

    @Zapruder F. Mashtots, D.D.S. (Mumphrey, et al.):

    No hable ingle.

  15. 15.

    rikyrah

    July 27, 2013 at 9:18 am

    @GrooveSDC
    Zimmerman Has a Higher Approval Rating Among Republicans Than Obama breakingbrown.com/2013/… … #NoJustice #TellsYouAllYouNeedToKnowAboutThem

  16. 16.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 27, 2013 at 9:19 am

    @Baud: Try talking with your hands.

  17. 17.

    rikyrah

    July 27, 2013 at 9:21 am

    Maryland issues insurance rates that are among lowest in U.S.

    By Lena H. Sun, Published: July 26 E-mail the writers

    Maryland insurance officials approved final rates Friday for health plans to be sold in the state’s new online marketplace that are among the lowest in the country. The plans, which are for individuals, will be sold beginning Oct. 1.

    The Maryland Insurance Administration approved premiums at levels as much as 33 percent below what had been requested by insurance carriers. For a 21-year-old non-smoker, for example, options start as low as $93 a month. Insurance Commissioner Therese Goldsmith reduced the premium rates proposed by every insurance carrier in the individual market, including some by more than 50 percent, according to an analysis by Maryland officials who will be operating the marketplace.

    The rates offered by nine carriers are among the lowest of the 12 states that have proposed or approved rates for comparison to date, and among the lowest in the D.C. area.

    “We are pleased that Maryland is among the lowest in the country,” said the state’s health secretary, Joshua Sharfstein. He said the rates were an important step for the launch of the online marketplace, the Maryland Health Connection.
    .

    washingtonpost.com/local/maryland-issues-insurance-rates-among-lowest-in-us/2013/07/26/724e55f2-f612…

  18. 18.

    scav

    July 27, 2013 at 9:22 am

    @Baud: No hable ingle? Do hable hobble.

    and that’s if you’re lucky — you’re more likely to be on a roll.

  19. 19.

    Mandalay

    July 27, 2013 at 9:22 am

    Tavis Smiley and Cornell West are under fire for their attacks on Obama…


    Cornel West, Tavis Smiley and the Cattiness of Slandering President Obama

    What’s motivating some of Obama’s black critics?

    All the articles gently smear that that their criticism of Obama may be motivated by personal animosity towards him….

    These comments are made only more disappointing because they seem to come from a place of personal disdain….

    I am not even going to make assumptions as to what personal riffs might be at the center as to why West and Smiley feel that they should continue to make blatant insults….

    In fairness, it is hard to prove that the vitriol the pair spews in Obama’s way all stems from perceived snubs from a few years ago….

    This is what happens when you fuck with power.

  20. 20.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 27, 2013 at 9:33 am

    @Mandalay: Both pieces effectively say that the tone of Smiley’s and West’s criticism seems personal not policy related. Is that far fetched?

    ETA:

    This is what happens when you fuck with power.

    Someone writes an opinion piece speculating about your motives? Quelle horreur. Smiley and West are grown-ups and public figures. I doubt they were too damaged by either Owens or Ganderson.

  21. 21.

    Baud

    July 27, 2013 at 9:36 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Would prefer to have a translator.

    @rikyrah:

    Heard about CVS?

  22. 22.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 27, 2013 at 9:37 am

    @Baud: Well played.

  23. 23.

    rikyrah

    July 27, 2013 at 9:38 am

    Voting Rights Of Black Americans Trampled By ‘New Jim Crow,’ Civil Rights Advocates Say

    Posted: 07/25/2013 7:28 am EDT | Updated: 07/25/2013 11:51 am EDT

    By most standards, Desmond Meade is an overachiever. The 46-year-old is a fourth-year law student at Florida International University. He made the 2013 dean’s list. And he’s about to start working as a regional coordinator for a national anti-violence organization.

    But, barring some unforeseen policy change, he won’t ever get the chance to practice law in his state. And this promising, African-American law student isn’t allowed to vote.

    Nearly two decades ago, after a struggle with drugs and alcohol led to a series of run-ins with the law, Meade served three years in prison. In 2005, he checked himself into a substance abuse program and stopped using drugs. Yet, because of a policy adopted by Florida Gov. Rick Scott in 2011, he is prohibited not only from voting, but also from serving on a jury and becoming a member of the Florida bar.

    “I was in prison because I had an addiction to drugs and alcohol,” he said. “Should I be ostracized for the rest of my life because I fell victim to the grip of addiction? No. Should I pay the price for any crimes I committed? Yes, I should pay the price. But once I serve my time, I’m still an American.”

    It’s a story told time and again in this country, even in 2013: A nonviolent offense brands someone a felon and strips them of their voting rights, sometimes for the rest of their lives.

    More than a million of these disenfranchised Americans are black. Felony convictions restrict 13 percent of the country’s black male population from voting, prompting critics to portray felon disenfranchisement as an heir to the voter-suppression tactics of the Jim Crow era. Back then, black people eager to cast their ballots encountered poll taxes, literacy tests and violence. Today, the mechanisms of disenfranchisement may be more sophisticated, but they can be just as oppressive, civil rights leaders say.

    More than 30 states have passed laws in recent years requiring voters to display photo identification, which minorities and low-income Americans disproportionately lack. Just this week, North Carolina’s Republican-dominated Senate approved a bill that would eliminate same-day voter registration, cut early voting by a week and require all voters to show specific forms of state-issued ID at the polls.

    huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/25/black-america-2013_n_3647789.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

  24. 24.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 27, 2013 at 9:41 am

    @rikyrah: I have never had a problem with the idea that a felon who is currently serving time is deprived of the right to vote, but once the sentence is served a person should be brought back into society. This includes having the right to vote restored automatically. I can think of no legitimate motive not to do so.

  25. 25.

    Baud

    July 27, 2013 at 9:45 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    What about those on parole?

  26. 26.

    Mandalay

    July 27, 2013 at 9:49 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Well I messed up the links, and there was a third article that also said the criticism was based on personal animosity:
    guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/26/cornel-west-tavis-smiley-disservice-african-americans

    Now it may or may not be the case that personal factors might enter into the criticism. Who knows? But West and Smiley are not just media blowhards, and they haven’t just suddenly started criticizing Obama. They both (especially Smiley) have track records of working with the black community, whatever you may think of their efforts.

    Nobody accuses Krauthammer or Brooks or Tapper of personal animosity if they criticize the president, yet three articles in a week, in very prominent locations (The Guardian, The Huffington Post and CNN) all go after West and Smiley in the same way? That’s not coincidence. That’s what happens when your criticism get a bit too trenchant, and you fuck with power. Power goes after you.

  27. 27.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 27, 2013 at 9:51 am

    @Baud: I actually like Wisconsin’s system. If you are “on papers” for a felony, that is in prison or on parole, you don’t vote. If you are off papers on election day, you do vote. No application required. Depending on how recent your release is, you may need to take paperwork to the polls to show that you are eligible to register and vote, but at that is only because the list of felons may not have been updated to drop your name.

  28. 28.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 27, 2013 at 9:58 am

    @Mandalay: Smiley and West just did high profile critiques of the president for his speech about the Zimmerman verdict. Is it really so odd that there would be critiques of the critiques? Does the fact that multiple people go after Brooks for being a vapid faux-moderate mean that it is somehow coordinated or do a bunch of people look at what he writes and come to the same conclusion?

  29. 29.

    Mandalay

    July 27, 2013 at 9:59 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I have never had a problem with the idea that a felon who is currently serving time is deprived of the right to vote

    I’ve never understood that argument myself. What is the rationale?

    Maine and Vermont allow you to vote from prison. Good for them.

  30. 30.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 27, 2013 at 10:07 am

    @Mandalay: The rationale is that while in prison you have forfeited certain rights as a citizen. You also can’t serve on a jury, for example. Once you have “paid you debt to society”, however, I can think of no reason that all rights should not be restored. FWIW, I have no problem with felons being allowed to vote either.

  31. 31.

    scav

    July 27, 2013 at 10:07 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: It’s a Saturday morning. What’s the harm of letting Mandy play in spyjammies for a little longer? I do think the footed ones were a bit of overkill for this time of year but we can crank up the A/C. At least we know that Smiley and West are perfect in each and every opinion and thought they hold because Mandy’s leapt to their defence and Mandy only associates with the hyperbolically correct.

  32. 32.

    Mandalay

    July 27, 2013 at 10:08 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Does the fact that multiple people go after Brooks for being a vapid faux-moderate mean that it is somehow coordinated or do a bunch of people look at what he writes and come to the same conclusion?

    People criticize what Brooks writes. But nobody dismisses him by claiming his criticism is based on personal animosity towards the president. And that is also true for Will, Erickson, Krauthammer et al, even though some of them may have a very strong and sincere personal dislike of the president.

    Yet suddenly this week, with West and Smiley their criticism of Obama is all about personal animosity?

  33. 33.

    Southern Beale

    July 27, 2013 at 10:10 am

    Can some economics whizz-bang explain to me why this is supposed to be a good investment idea?

  34. 34.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 27, 2013 at 10:16 am

    @Mandalay: Has there been a change in the critique of Smiley and West recently or have you just noticed the nature of the critique? IIRC, and I am not going to go digging for it, people have been knocking West for a personal animus against Obama since as far back as 2009. The arguments against Smiley and West may or may not be valid, but I don’t think they are a new, coordinated line of attack against AA critics.

  35. 35.

    Amir Khalid

    July 27, 2013 at 10:29 am

    This, from TIME’s Richard Corliss, is the silliest, most embarrassing movie review I’ve ever read. Why did Corliss think all those silly puns on Les Misérables were so clever? Why didn’t his editor spike it?

  36. 36.

    Maude

    July 27, 2013 at 10:32 am

    @rikyrah:
    Good thing Eric Holder is doing something about this.
    Issa will probably try to accuse Holder of something or other.
    Thanks for all the good solid information.

  37. 37.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 27, 2013 at 10:32 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    Why did Corliss think all those sully puns on Les Misérables were so clever? Why didn’t his editor spike it?

    Drunk and drunker.

  38. 38.

    debbie

    July 27, 2013 at 10:35 am

    @Mandalay:

    I usually listen to them while driving home on Friday nights, and every time, there’s a lot of criticism of Obama. But to me, it sounds more like they’re angry because he hasn’t done more for African-Americans, as if that should be Obama’s top priority.

  39. 39.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    July 27, 2013 at 10:37 am

    I thought you said you blocked the obots.

  40. 40.

    TaMara (BHF)

    July 27, 2013 at 10:39 am

    @ThresherK: Thanks, I’ve bookmarked both. Appreciate the links.

  41. 41.

    raven

    July 27, 2013 at 10:40 am

    RIP JJ Cale

  42. 42.

    raven

    July 27, 2013 at 10:40 am

    Magnolia You Sweet Thing

  43. 43.

    Amir Khalid

    July 27, 2013 at 10:42 am

    @Southern Beale:
    There are funds that invest in companies that do business in booming national or regional economies. As the economies grow, the companies’ business grows, the investments’ value grows too. Same general idea here, only with the city of Nashville. Not really different from any other investment.

  44. 44.

    Cassidy

    July 27, 2013 at 10:46 am

    @Mandalay: Cornell West is a charlatan. Here’s how you know the criticisms are personal. Every time West is on Bill Maher, which is pretty frequently, he’s usually paired with one conservative superdouche or two conservative douchecanoes. When those other commenters start spouting the bullshit talking points that conservatives do, what does West say or do? Nothing. Nada. He just sits there and smiles and lets them run their mouths, just like Maher, even though he knows that the bullshit their vomiting up is always based in some sort of bigotry or pimping some policy that will disproportionately and maliciously affect AA’s and other minorities, we get nothing from the Professor of Philosophy and Christian Practice.

    But man, when Maher throws a softball so West can talk about how bad Obama is, he jumps on that like a stripper collecting singles.

  45. 45.

    scav

    July 27, 2013 at 10:48 am

    The number of page formats rolling past is stunning and the site’s exploring its inner amnesiac. amusing.

    NB. Friday Night Comedy rather good this week, or we’re just on the same exact level. (lowish)

  46. 46.

    Villago Delenda Est

    July 27, 2013 at 10:55 am

    Two suspects in this:

    Tunch, from the Cat Ceiling, just raising heck

    Ryan Gosling, for Cole’s vicious review of that movie of Gosling’s.

  47. 47.

    Mandalay

    July 27, 2013 at 10:59 am

    @Cassidy:

    When those other commenters start spouting the bullshit talking points that conservatives do, what does West say or do? Nothing. Nada. He just sits there and smiles and lets them run their mouths, just like Maher,

    Well by your own argument that would mean that Maher also has a personal dislike of Obama, since he also “lets them run their mouths”, and I’m pretty sure that is not the case.

    And I’m reasonably sure that part of Maher’s show is to allow conservative guests run their mouths. Maher specifically wants them to do that. There are plenty of reasons to go after West, but I don’t think that is one of them.

  48. 48.

    Southern Beale

    July 27, 2013 at 11:02 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    These are not companies doing business in Nashville. These are national companies headquartered in Nashville. They are doing business everywhere.

    Stupid idea, like being headquartered in Nashville gives you some magic “it-city” ju-ju.

  49. 49.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 27, 2013 at 11:03 am

    @Southern Beale: It might just be a way of creating a fairly diverse portfolio.

  50. 50.

    Redshirt

    July 27, 2013 at 11:05 am

    Cornell West is making me wish Zion fell.

  51. 51.

    Comrade Mary

    July 27, 2013 at 11:06 am

    @raven: I just heard, too. Sad.

    Full session with Leon Russell from 1979.

  52. 52.

    Anya

    July 27, 2013 at 11:07 am

    @Mandalay: The reason people think Cornell West’s Obama critism is personal it’s because his comments are usually unhinged. This is what he said about Obama’s Trayvone comments:

    “You got these black leaders on the Obama Plantation, won’t say a criminal word about the master in the big house. Will only try to tame the field folk so that they’re not critical of the master in the big house.”

    WTF! This is coming from the mouth of a professor?

    It might also have to do with the comments West made about how dissapointed he was that Obama didn’t call him or thank him for his support.

    In an interview published by TruthDig Monday, West told Chris Hedges that he felt snubbed by the president after doing 65 events during the 2008 campaign.

    “I used to call my dear brother [Obama] every two weeks,” he explained. “I said a prayer on the phone for him, especially before a debate. And I never got a call back.”

    “I said, wow, this is kind of strange. He doesn’t have time, even two seconds, to say thank you or I’m glad you’re pulling for me and praying for me, but he’s calling these other people. I said, this is very interesting. And then as it turns out with the inauguration I couldn’t get a ticket with my mother and my brother. I said this is very strange. We drive into the hotel and the guy who picks up my bags from the hotel has a ticket to the inauguration. My mom says, ‘That’s something that this dear brother can get a ticket and you can’t get one, honey, all the work you did for him from Iowa.’”

  53. 53.

    Amir Khalid

    July 27, 2013 at 11:07 am

    @Southern Beale: @Southern Beale:
    Then I don’t dig it, either. Unless there’s some special mystique about Nashville executive types.

  54. 54.

    Cassidy

    July 27, 2013 at 11:11 am

    @Mandalay: That’s a simplistic representation and you left out the second part. West and Maher let them talk. Maher will later in his New Rules say something that is a counter, in a forum where he can’t be interrupted, and does not go out of his way and bend over backwards to criticize Obama. For that matter, when he does, it is significantly more poignant.

    That’s not what happens with West. West presents himself as a champion of all people, not just AA’s, who are poor, underrepresented, etc. When he has the chance to promote that position and debate the conservatives who incessantly shout their bullshit, he flakes out and does nothing or he bends his comment to criticize Obama. What he does not do, without fail, is represent the poor, minorities, disaffected, etc. He’s a megalomaniacal charlatan.

  55. 55.

    Joel

    July 27, 2013 at 11:15 am

    @Mandalay: I don’t have much praise for Larry Summers, but calling out Cornel West for being a self-promoting douchebag is certainly a feather in his cap.

    eta: stupid autocorrect.

  56. 56.

    Summer

    July 27, 2013 at 11:19 am

    As if things weren’t bad enough here in North Carolina, there are four cats missing on a little section of our block, including my big fat 15-year-old orange George. Missing without a trace. George has been gone for six days.

    We don’t know what terrible path to let our imaginations roam down. George is grumpy and unfriendly to almost everyone but me, and my next door neighbor’s cats were feral. And then poor Punky, a sweet homebody, went missing too.

    Needless to say, we’re pretty distraught.

  57. 57.

    maya

    July 27, 2013 at 11:44 am

    @Summer: Are there coyotes in your neighborhood? For a number of cats, including ferals, to suddenly disappear suggests a pack of something, animal or possibly human, to be involved.
    I’ve lost two cats to a bobcat in the past. After the second one disappeared I figured it was either that or perhaps a fox, then one morning I saw the bobcat sauntering through my backyard. Now that’s pretty bold. They have always been around but usually stay clear of humans and their established perimeters.
    I was sans any dog at that time and that was probably why the bobcat became embolden. I got another dog soon after that and my remaining cat is now safe.

  58. 58.

    PurpleGirl

    July 27, 2013 at 11:49 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Generating fees for the broker of the fund.

  59. 59.

    ruemara

    July 27, 2013 at 11:53 am

    @Mandalay: Um, no, no they don’t. If you ask within the black community, West and Smiley are the black people white liberals trot out to prove their liberalness. “You see, I read Race Matters by Cornell West-so, I totally get black people”. Neither of them have a track record of working within our communities to do anything. They have a reputation of ivory tower elitism and shilling for mortgage lenders (Smiley).

  60. 60.

    PurpleGirl

    July 27, 2013 at 11:54 am

    @Summer: Could a town or country animal control department/agency begun to pick up stray/feral cats? I don’t blame you for wanting to imagine certain ideas. Hope the cats are safe and return to you and your neighbor.

  61. 61.

    debbie

    July 27, 2013 at 11:54 am

    @raven:

    The first song I ever heard of his was Crazy Mama, and it’s still my favorite:

    youtube.com/watch?v=L4kIrrJiAPE

  62. 62.

    Steeplejack

    July 27, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    @Summer, @maya:

    For a number of cats, including ferals, to suddenly disappear suggests a pack of something, animal or possibly human, to be involved.

    It also suggests Animal Control. Summer, have you called to see if they did a sweep through your neighborhood and/or are holding the cats somewhere?

  63. 63.

    raven

    July 27, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    Where ya been so long. . .

  64. 64.

    Betty Cracker

    July 27, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    @Summer: God, that sucks. Hoping for a happy ending.

  65. 65.

    NotMax

    July 27, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    @Steeplejack

    Or a newly opened restaurant with a suspiciously low-priced bill of fare.

  66. 66.

    Betty Cracker

    July 27, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    @Mandalay:

    That’s what happens when your criticism get a bit too trenchant, and you fuck with power. Power goes after you.

    Trenchant? You mean when they call Obama an “Eisenhower Republican in black face” or accuse him of keeping Al Sharpton on the “Obama plantation”? The Guardian article in the link you provided is dead right: There’s plenty of legitimate reasons to criticize President Obama, but West and Smiley deal in unhinged smears, so no wonder people suspect that it’s personal.

  67. 67.

    Betty Cracker

    July 27, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    @NotMax: Dickish thing to say under the circumstances.

  68. 68.

    NotMax

    July 27, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    @Betty Cracker

    It has occurred multiple times in the past and should not be dismissed as a possibility (albeit a lesser one), particularly during an extended economic downturn.

    Nothing dickish about it at all.

  69. 69.

    justinb

    July 27, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    I just need a mobile site cookie

  70. 70.

    Betty Cracker

    July 27, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    @NotMax: Oh, you were just trying to be helpful by suggesting that possibility to the worried owner of a missing pet. Got it. Carry on, then.

  71. 71.

    NotMax

    July 27, 2013 at 12:29 pm

    @Betty Cracker

    Oh, come on.

    Is it also dickish, then, for someone else to have posited a bobcat?

    That history is often harsh is not my doing; it is what it is.

  72. 72.

    Cassidy

    July 27, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    That’s what happens when your criticism get a bit too trenchant, and you fuck with power. Power goes after you.

    Funny thing about firebaggers: you can always count on lacking a sense of proportion and an overblown self-importance. It’s as consistent as the number 27.

  73. 73.

    Southern Beale

    July 27, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    Yeah it’s the nation’s first “city-centric investment fund,” according to the link.. And you know, I like Nashville but it’s not like we’ve got magic fairy dust or anything.

  74. 74.

    Ted & Hellen

    July 27, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    I killed off a bunch of queries and blocked a couple of bots

    I can understand you blocking Bots from this site; god knows there are plenty to go around.

    But why kill the Queries? And how’d you miss me?

  75. 75.

    AHH onnan Android FYGoog

    July 27, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    @debbie: well, why not? To whom much is given, much is required; the reverse even more so.

    Actually Obama has tried to do a lot–ARRA funds were supposed to support wages during the worst of the downturn, but local govs spent it on ‘capital’and planning, aka white men’s jobs. And the GOP fed and local has been fucking up unemployment, healthcare and food stamps.

    It’s easy to lob bombs from the sidelines. West is an ivory tower radical in less than radical times, but he does what he can. West is a failure at politics, I mean look at what happened with his employment, so his pronouncements on the topic are discounted accordingly by me.

    Smiley’s got some sort of sour grapes going on and West to keep encouraging him. He does good work but I’m not listening. Taking down Potus way too demotivating to me. I need a safe space away from corporate media and gop tp.

  76. 76.

    AHH onnan Android FYGoog

    July 27, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    @ruemara: I happen to know you are wrong: that ivory tower elitist dropped a rap album, taking the lofty world of letters to the PEOPLE, dawg. Nb, nobody else has brought intellect and politics to hip hop before or sense, especially not with more talent for lyrics, nuuuuo. ///

  77. 77.

    AHH onnan Android FYGoog

    July 27, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    @Joel: stopped clocks, twice a day, etc

  78. 78.

    Summer

    July 27, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    Thanks for the responses. I do have dogs and there is a coyote supposedly living in the woods behind the houses across the street, but my cat doesn’t really go over there and my yard is fenced in… Pound doesn’t have them.

    The restaurant I hadn’t thought of, thank you. But I’m pretty sure it really is organic grass-fed beef. The story I haven’t been able to get out of my head is the one an oldtimer told me about how 15 years ago pets were disappearing and when the police busted a dog fighting ring they found out that the pets had been used as … whatever that would be to train the dogs. That’s the unbearable picture in my head.

  79. 79.

    Baud

    July 27, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    Mobile site was hinky for a couple of hours, but seems ok now.

  80. 80.

    Amir Khalid

    July 27, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    @Summer:
    For what it’s worth, the “eebil reataurant serving neighbourhood pets” theory doesn’t sound particularly plausible. Four cats doesn’t sound like all that much meat, and restaurants like a steady and plentiful supply of whatever they serve.

  81. 81.

    Anne Laurie

    July 27, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    @Linda Featheringill:

    Yeah, life in the 21st century is a bit hard on me. :-)

    Same here! I find Down for Everyone, Or Just Me? a most consoling resource…

  82. 82.

    realbtl

    July 27, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    @raven:
    Damn, always one of my favorites, saw him twice. The first time was a small club in Crested Butte CO. Some guys on stage setting up the equipment, then they all sat down and started to play. I thought it was the roadies but nope, just a very laid back group.

  83. 83.

    Mnemosyne

    July 27, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    @NotMax:

    It’s dickish to suggest to someone that they accidentally ate their own cat by eating at the local restaurant.

  84. 84.

    Ted & Hellen

    July 27, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    @Mandalay:

    Tavis Smiley and Cornell West are under fire for their attacks on Obama…

    Well, my god, clearly they are attacking him because they are white supremacist, pedophile racists.

    Just ask any number of Bots here: That is where ALL criticism of Himself originates.

  85. 85.

    Ted & Hellen

    July 27, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    @Cassidy:

    But man, when Maher throws a softball so West can talk about how bad Obama is, he jumps on that like a stripper collecting singles.

    And don’t forget what a racist pedophile West is known to be.

  86. 86.

    Ted & Hellen

    July 27, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    @ruemara:

    Jesus.

    You speak for ALL black people now?

    I was not aware of your status as Spokesperson For All African Americans Everywhere Because They All Think Exactly Like Me.

    Good to know.

    Racist!

  87. 87.

    Ted & Hellen

    July 27, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Trenchant? You mean when they call Obama an “Eisenhower Republican in black face” or accuse him of keeping Al Sharpton on the “Obama plantation”?

    Yes. Exactly on the nose. Which is why the Obama machine is reacting so strongly to it.

    Can’t have people speaking the plain truth, you know.

    Besides, Betty, these gentlemen are black. You are white. As has been made abundantly clear here, ergo you have no standing to have an opinion on this so back the fuck off, Cracker.

  88. 88.

    Ted & Hellen

    July 27, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Poor Betty of the Tender Fee Fees again…

    Jeesh…zero self awareness. Your posts are FULL of dickish comments.

    Oh! But you direct them outside the tribe…

  89. 89.

    Ted & Hellen

    July 27, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    But it’s also really funny, you humorless troll.

  90. 90.

    Cassidy

    July 27, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    @Sandusky & Ramirez: Awwww, someone is lonely.

  91. 91.

    Cassidy

    July 27, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Hey Cole, you’re drawing monkey and needy, high maintenance “friend” is looking for validation again. Maybe you should send it an email that he’s good enough, smart enough, and doggone it, people really do like it, despite the evidence to the contrary.

  92. 92.

    Ted & Hellen

    July 27, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    @Cassidy:

    Friend me on FB. Call me!

    It’s never too late to come out and put that great big Cassidy Assidy to use for a good purpose at long last.

  93. 93.

    Cassidy

    July 27, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    @Sandusky & Ramirez: Boring, needy “it” is boring and needy. /yawn

  94. 94.

    Msskwesq

    July 27, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    @Mandalay: Tavis is still holding a grudge about Obama not attending some kind of gathering he hosted in New Orleans back in 2008. He is not as savy as he pretends. I think West is just angry he was not appointed to some position in the administration. Their pettiness is obvious.

  95. 95.

    drkrick

    July 27, 2013 at 4:46 pm

    I would imagine West might not appreciate how prominent a role Larry Summers played early in the administration. Of course, a lot of us don’t but his reasons may not be entirely policy related.

    And the story about his mother at the inauguration told more than he may have intended. She sounds like a parent who’s gotten a little tired of hearing what a big deal he’s become.

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