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ronin122
We do. We just end up being called “libtards/commies/etc” and get dismissed by Republicans outright and ignored by blue dog Democrat enablers.
Shinobi (@shinobi42)
People on twitter were mad yesterday because someone else had tweeted this whole “If white people were talked about like black people” thing a while ago, and they argued the gawker guy plagiarized. I don’t know that I AGREE that he plagiarized, but I am pretty sure Gawker was a dick about it.
flukebucket
It is caused by the disintegration of the family and the lack of a white father figure.
kwAwk
I’ve been thinking lately that there are two issues I’d like to see our liberal friends in the media explore:
1) It would be interesting to see how the polarization of the political culture in this country mirrors the white flight phenomenon of the 1960s. White folks keep pulling futher and futher to the right as minorities become more economically mainstream and centrist in order to keep their party pure.
2) Kevin Drum (I think) likes to point from time to time about how the reduction in crime in the 1990s was possibly related to the elimination of lead in gasoline. Lead exposure makes people more prone to agressiveness, impusiveness and clouds reasoning skills. In the 80s and 90s the peak lead folks would have been in their teens and twenties, the prime age range for crime commission. It is now 2013 and those same people would be in their 40’s adn 50’s. Approaching peak time for people to be especially politically active.
Just some thoughts.
cathyx
My girlfriend was really white. She used to ride horses and do that kind of stuff. Too funny.
Belafon
All I see is an f in a circle (can’t watch them at work). What’s it about?
Neutron Flux
That is a very nice vid. Thanx.
Linda Featheringill
@flukebucket:
Right. A bunch of white males disappear right after conception and another bunch walk out while the child is preschool. And a large portion of those white males that do stick with their women and the children are complete assholes and thereby drive the kids totally nuts.
What to do?
Keith G
Very funny. Good satire in that it pokes at two serious social concerns.
Also too, Snowden, Greenwald and Manning are all white. Coincidence?
Chris
@ronin122:
Well, that’s not “moderate whites” so much as “liberal whites.” “Moderate whites” I associate with the apathetic assholes who aren’t proactively racist, but get annoyed whenever nonwhites and their do-gooder white friends make noise about their problems, and wish they would all just go away and stop make them feeling bad.
mcfrank0
@Shinobi (@shinobi42): Um. The author of the Gawker article appears in the video.
Southern Beale
Hey, an armed George Zimmerman was pulled over for speeding in Texas three days ago. This guy is like some kind of cop magnet or something.
Worst superpower EVER.
LABiker
I think lacrosse culture was implicated in this video. What say you, blog host?
schrodinger's cat
@Keith G: As are most of the banksters with some South Asian banksters sprinkled in like seasoning, also about 99.99% are male.
MattR
That is great troll bait for facebook. I may have to post it to see who gets so mad watching it that they have to post their screed about how “of course the liberal media focuses on white mobs while ignoring all the black crime” before they watch through to the end.
Southern Beale
Also, in Texas:
Seriously, when is it going to be enough? Ever?
cathyx
@MattR: It’s mentioned right at the beginning that it’s snark.
gogol's wife
Very well done.
Shinobi (@shinobi42)
@mcfrank0: I know. He was the one accused of plagiarizing someone ELSE on twitter.
The Moar You Know
@Southern Beale: When you’re covered head to toe in black cloth, can’t leave the house without the permission and company of your husband (one of his brothers can fill in a pinch if this is his day to fuck one of the other wives), and have to walk three steps behind that male.
gogol's wife
@Shinobi (@shinobi42):
This seems like such an obvious and broad idea that it would be hard to call it plagiarism.
ChrisNYC
@Southern Beale: Of course GZ has adopted the very appealing, “Don’t you know who I AM???” Maybe he’s on his way to Tinseltown.
MattR
@cathyx: Yikes. I missed that opening screen. Must’ve been while I was changing from the embedded version to the version on MSNBC’s site. Still worth posting on facebook. But I won’t get the reaction I expected.
Lavocat
Hilarious.
Especially those lacrosse camp hooligans!
bemused
Randi Rhodes is covering this today and it completely flew right over the head of her first caller, a woman from Huntington Beach. I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry hysterically.
gogol's wife
@bemused:
Yes, I’m sure that despite the initial disclaimer people will get their knickers in a twist about it.
Bubblegum Tate
Usually, comments sections are to be avoided at all costs, but the comments on the original Gawker article are fucking fantastic.
Amir Khalid
@Southern Beale:
I’d just ignore “neighbourhood watch hero” George Zimmerman until the next time he shoots an innocent person. Let him fade into obscurity. That’s what he deserves for his clumsy attempt at faking an act of heroism.
ranchandsyrup
In OC today and brought the huntington “riot” up. Two camps emerged. 1. Boys will be boys (or white boys will be boys) and 2. THE RIOTERS WERE FROM ANAHEIM/RIVERSIDE/ARE NOT SURFERS!!!!!!!
Villago Delenda Est
Oh, the snark is strong with these two.
When will the White Community (particularly the religious leaders) take action?
So, when will Justin Bieber, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity address this? When they get that beam out of their eye? Good luck with that!
I loved that comment by Cord about this best friend being white…
schrodinger's cat
We need a Steve Kitteh update.
schrodinger's cat
We can laugh all we want but the sad truth is that the rules for minorities are different and not just in this country.
Villago Delenda Est
@schrodinger’s cat:
Yup, and that’s the injustice that we should all be fully aware of and work to correct.
It seriously sucks.
the Conster
@schrodinger’s cat:
What will we call minorities when they’re no longer in the minority?
mclaren
Despite constant attempts to sweep this societal problem under the rug, there’s some indication that the problem with white people may be genetic.
This has led to a white culture of hypersexuality and violence, which tends to explain the increasing crisis of white middle-class unemployment. It might be time to think about rounding up all the white people in America and shipping them back to Africa, where they evolved.
Belafon
Related: Black man ordered out of his car at gunpoint over in Queens:
I think it can be stated that the NYPD officially has a racial profiling problem.
bemused
@gogol’s wife:
No doubt. Their feelings get hurt when there is a hint they just might be racists and classists. When sarcasm is used and they finally catch on, they really get pissed.
This woman blamed the property damage and rioting on other people from “outside” moving in. When Randi Rhodes slyly asked her if those others were white trash, the woman didn’t even blink. She just went on as if Randi was on her page. Just clueless. So I’m assuming the woman was either embarrassed after the call and kept listening to the reactions of Randi and the next callers (not likely) or furious (more likely).
Belafon
@mclaren: Or maybe, for those that don’t believe in evolution, we can send them back to the middle east. They can hunt for Eden.
Josie
@the Conster: In some areas of Texas (such as where I live), Hispanics are called majority minorities, since they are in the majority but in some ways are treated like a minority. The verbiage gets a bit confusing.
burnspbesq
@Southern Beale:
This is why God created the TRO (betcha didn’t know the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure were Divinely inspired).
Roger Moore
@the Conster:
Those People. SATSQ.
Villago Delenda Est
@Bubblegum Tate:
Agreed. Every possible riff on the “those people” comments you hear from Rethugs has its counterpart. What music they listen to (country music glorifies being rednecks and getting drunk every weekend), the names these white kids are given (Hayden, Jaden, Kayden…they’re obviously making them up!), the works.
kindness
They must have seen my dorm room. I fit that criteria although to be honest I think the bong was discretely up on a shelf and any vomiting took place in the bathroom. I mean, we weren’t utter animals. We were college students.
Joel
(Many) surfers are dickheads. This much, I know.
Davis X. Machina
@LABiker: I am lacrosse intolerant.
FlipYrWhig
The “lacrosse camps” and horse-riding remarks were literal LOLs for me.
Michele C.
@bemused: I have racist relatives who live in Huntington Beach, but they’d be horrified if I called them racists because they truly believe that they’re not racists, they’re just telling the truth about how X group is like so.
Michele C.
@schrodinger’s cat: which is why we need a Steve Kitteh update
bemused
@Michele C.:
Yup, they have no clue but have absolutely no interest in examining why they are being called racist and if that might be possible. Heck, everyone they know is the same so how could they be racist?
Mnemosyne
@kindness:
True story: one of the reasons my older brother was expelled from his first college was because he left his bong sitting in the middle of the floor when the university housing folks came by to check the room.
schrodinger's cat
@Michele C.: True, until then you can has the Itteh Bitteh Kitteh Committeh on Nap Break
ranchandsyrup
Meanwhile, Riley Cooper of the Philadelphia Iggles makes a couple of mistakes. 1 is the ponytail. 2 is saying that he’ll fight every ni-clang at a Kenny Chesney concert while being filmed. http://deadspin.com/eagles-wr-riley-cooper-at-concert-i-will-fight-every-979470075
Southern Beale
Great. There’s a new (old?) Monica Lewinsky sex tape, just audio, no Bill but WHO CARES ZOMG IT’S 1998 ALL OVER AGAIN!
Shiny sparkly!
Gex
@Southern Beale: When we are property again. That’s what they want. No autonomy for women at all.
Gex
@Shinobi (@shinobi42): As though the Twitter guy was the first one to come up with this. The idea of flipping the argument has been around for forever, and MANY people have made this point. It’s like all the people who think that one movie is a rip off of Hunger Games, not knowing about Running Man or any number of similar stories that occurred prior.
Shakezula
I didn’t realize satire was so dangerous that it required a big WARNING sign. And look out for the irony, eeek! But I assume the DANGER SATIRE label will allow the knotty knicker crowd to claim it was all staged.
@schrodinger’s cat: Vraiment?
Just One More Canuck
White punks on dope
Shakezula
@Belafon: In a moment Kommisar Kelly will explain that they did it to protect him from the threat of black on black violence.
Gex
@ranchandsyrup: Gotta say, the guy knows how to apologize though. Very refreshing compared to the usual BS you get.
ranchandsyrup
@Gex: Agreed. Maybe we have reached peak non-apology-apology. Who am I kidding?
Another FL Gator acting the fool. Sorry Betty C.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Just One More Canuck: Thanks, now I have an earworm.
IowaOldLady
Maybe it’s progress that people are horrified at being called racists.
Now if only they had more self-awareness. Most of us have some element of racism. But if you’re self aware, you try to counteract it.
Jebediah
@the Conster:
Sir?
kindness
@Mnemosyne: I went to Ithaca College in upstate NY. If they expelled everyone who had parephanalia in their room they’d have had no students. This was the mid 70’s though. It was a different era then.
Just One More Canuck
@BillinGlendaleCA: i’m here to serve
Yatsuno
@Southern Beale: Dunno if I ever mentioned this, but I went to college with a woman who could be a clone of Monica Lewinsky. She also happened to be named Robin Williams. But she played tuba so we watched out for her.
The Other Bob
I honestly look suspicious at a group of young white guys walking my way on the street.
No joke. And I am a white guy.
It’s probably because in the community I grew up in âthose peopleâ were a bunch of well-off disrespectful (often racist) white assholes who regularly made comments about my then girlfriendâs appearance, body, breasts, etc. I had a bottle thrown at me once when I went after one. (Jokes on them, she’s my wife now of 16 + years.)
Ash Can
@schrodinger’s cat: Squeee!
WereBear
@schrodinger’s cat: Squee indeed. The one on the right just slays me.
Reminds me of when Tristan was a Tiny Guy.
Now he’s almost three and on the cusp of not being a kitten.
Roger Moore
@schrodinger’s cat:
I think that’s supposed to be Itteh Bitteh Nap Break Committeh. Shorter and punchier.
BruceJ
@kwAwk: Absolutely. I suspect that to a great extent modern conservative “thought” can be largely placed on brain damage. This does give me hope that we might just be able to last it out…
gogol's wife
@Villago Delenda Est:
Has Justin Bieber actually said something that warranted this? If so, I mercifully missed it. Or is he just being used as a generic white guy?
gogol's wife
@mclaren:
“shipping them back to Africa, where they evolved” LOL!
johio
@Jebediah: oh, VERY good.
Villago Delenda Est
@gogol’s wife:
He was mentioned by Cord in the same sentence as the other two, not sure what he did to get there, other than being, you know, pale.
gogol's wife
@Villago Delenda Est:
Right, I didn’t mean to imply that you had brought up Justin Bieber. I just noticed it in the clip and didn’t know if there was some incident I had missed.
Susan K of the tech support
Two (very minor) observations:
Pronunciation of Huntington Beach. Local SoCal peeps (including Cord Jefferson) pronounce it “Hunnington Beach” ⊠same as Hunnington Library. Whereas Chris Hayes pronounces it HunTington Beach. Sounds strange on my local ears. I guess it takes a White Riot and a cable news segment broadcast from the other coast to call to mind (or ear) some of the idiosyncrasies of local pronunciation.
Also: Cord Jefferson, bless him, looks tired. Circles under his eyes. I think the reaction of all to his wonderful post on Gawker has kept him up late. Either that, or the tiny remote studio didn’t come with a bit of touch-up makeup.
Other than these eentsy, minor near-non-sequitors, this whole episode was deeeeeeelish!
Yowzat20515
I’m sorry to be late to the party but what the hell happened with the flames and the helicopters?
daverave
@kindness:
My brother (really) was expelled from Ithaca in the late 70’s (just a few courses shy of getting his degree) due to marijuana use. True, sad story….
Zam
@gogol’s wife: He’s a generic white musician. Many people demand all famous black people take a stand against black crime because you know, they are one of the few good ones or something like that.
Trollhattan
@Southern Beale:
Uuugh, he’s not going to stay out of jail forever, is our Zimms? Even the Texas cop had him unstrap and put his precious gun in the glovebox.
RSA
I have been known to shake my head sadly and say, “White people…”
burnspbesq
Huntington is not representative of White America.
Jamey
Well Chris Hayes is “one of the good ones.” Because–and I’m not being racist here–everyone agrees that there are white people and there are “crackers.”
shell
Go West, young man. Keep going west till you drive into the blue Pacific. Do us all a favor.
It’s only a matter of time before this guy ends up shooting somebody else.
thalarctos
@Zam:
Wasn’t there something recently where he peed into some custodian’s mop bucket? or am I thinking of some other young white jerk?
leeleeFL
@the Conster: Sir or Ma’am?
Ivan Ivanovich Renko
Pre-President Mandela South Afrika. That’s the model for how to deal with being a “minority.”
wenchacha
@Southern Beale: I bet there are millions of women in Texas who would prefer Obamacare to this idiocy. What next: videos of sad puppies? Promises of a patriotic nursery remodel?
Turgid Jacobian
I downloaded the podcast especially–this seems super interesting. I hope to also get the book.
Hawes
My fav? 84% of crime against white people is committed BY OTHER WHITE PEOPLE!
Rebecca
Other sources of good footage of white people rioting: Halloween Riot, Madison, WI 2002 (there were pictures of people standing in line to loot the liquor store) and the James Madison University block party riot of 2010. At least in the later case, it was blamed on people in from out of town (they might be white people, but they’re not our white people). The former is hard to argue about when the principal rioters were all in costume and the undergraduate population is close to 30,000. My favorite was the person dressed as a shower.
polyorchnid octopunch
@FlipYrWhig: Given that the majority of the people that play lacrosse in its country of origin (Canada) aren’t white, they’d probably point and laugh at the pathetic attempt by the roundeye and the black guy at lampooning something they really don’t understand.
polyorchnid octopunch
@kindness: Everybody in North America was a lot freer in the seventies, before Reagan and the blight of the modern oligarchical fascism. Everybody… it’s just that white people have lost the least amount of freedom
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polyorchnid octopunch
@burnspbesq: Yes it is. Don’t fucking kid yourself. That’s totally representative of it where I am, a small city with two unis in SE Ontario. You’re just lying to yourself to make yourself feel better.
At best, you can only say it’s representative of white elite culture. That’s your only escape hatch on that one buddy.
Paul in KY
@ranchandsyrup: He’s gonna pay for that. Heh, indeedy.