Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

A snarling mass of vitriolic jackals

The rest of the comments were smacking Boebert like she was a piñata.

If you thought you’d already seen people saying the stupidest things possible on the internet, prepare yourselves.

Good lord, these people are nuts.

“Loving your country does not mean lying about its history.”

The current Supreme Court is a dangerous, rogue court.

The National Guard is not Batman.

You know it’s bad when the Project 2025 people have to create training videos on “How To Be Normal”.

No offense, but this thread hasn’t been about you for quite a while.

Never give a known liar the benefit of the doubt.

You are either for trump or for democracy. Pick one.

Too often we hand the biggest microphones to the cynics and the critics who delight in declaring failure.

When you’re a Republican, they let you do it.

Republican speaker of the house Mike Johnson is the bland and smiling face of evil.

We will not go back.

Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?

Within six months Twitter will be fully self-driving.

Every reporter and pundit should have to declare if they ever vacationed with a billionaire.

“They all knew.”

Baby steps, because the Republican Party is full of angry babies.

Impressively dumb. Congratulations.

Wake up. Grow up. Get in the fight.

With all due respect and assumptions of good faith, please fuck off into the sun.

Rupert, come get your orange boy, you petrified old dinosaur turd.

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via TPM, here’s the latest from The Arizona Republic:

Obama foes at one point sang, “Bye Bye Black Sheep,” a derogatory reference to the president’s skin color, while protesters like Deanne Bartram raised a sign saying, “Impeach the Half-White Muslim!”

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Many on both sides wore red, white and blue and carried small flags.

“It just kind of happened naturally,” said Michael Pomales of how the opposing sides separated. Pomales, an 18-year-old Ahwatukee Foothills resident who graduated in the spring from Desert Vista High, said he decided to join the protesters side “to spread a little love” as the crowds began shouting at each other.

Pomales said his response to people yelling for Obama to go back from where he came from is simple: “He’s a great man. He cares about what I care about, education, jobs. He’s our president. He’s an American.”

Deanna Bartram, a 17-year-old University of Arizona student from Black Canyon City, lashed out at people who call her racist for not supporting Obama. She believes Obama supporters use the “race card” against her because they disagree with her political message.

“Obama is ruining American values. He is ruining the Constitution. He needs to go back to where he came from because obviously, he is a liar,” she said. “I am not racist. I am part Indian. Obama’s half Black, half White.”

“He’s 47 percent Negro,” shouted Ron Enderle, a 77-year-old Chandler resident who said that he and his son served as Marines and his grandson is currently serving in the Marines.

But it’s all good.  John Roberts has told us we live in a post-racial America, and John Roberts is an honorable man.

Image: Anonymous painter, Abd el-Ouahed ben Messaoud ben Mohammed Anoun, Moorish Ambassador to Queen Elizabeth I, 1600.

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  1. 1.

    beer time somewhere

    –“He’s 47 percent Negro,” shouted Ron Enderle,–

    WTF is 47%? Jaysus, where does that shit come from?

  3. 3.

    TG Chicago

    John Roberts has told us we live in a post-racial America, and John Roberts is an honorable man.

    More specifically, he told us that Arizona no longer needs preclearance under the Voting Rights Act.

  5. 5.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Obama foes at one point sang, “Bye Bye Black Sheep,” a derogatory reference to the president’s skin color, while protesters like Deanne Bartram raised a sign saying, “Impeach the Half-White Muslim!”

    That’s a shitty piece of writing, but based on what she said, I guess this little non-racist was holding that sign?

  6. 6.

    Hill Dweller

    Any good conservative/tea party member/”libertarian” will tell you the only racism that exists in this country is “reverse racism”.

  7. 7.

    dmsilev

    John Roberts is an honorable man.

    The inevitable follow-up:

    “So are they all, all honorable men”

  9. 9.

    dmsilev

    He needs to go back to where he came from

    Help me out here. Hawaii or Chicago?

    Or Nairobi.

  11. 11.

    BGinCHI

    Love that painting, btw. It’s in the intro material to the Norton Shakespeare and is always a good reminder that “Moor” in England in the Elizabethan period does not necessarily mean “black.”

    I always think the guy looks a little like Ricardo Montalban.

  12. 12.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    also, too, in post-racial America, and also from TPM:

    Harkin recounted one stinging example to the newspaper’s editorial board, dating back to a July 15 closed-door meeting about filibuster rules, in which one unnamed senator said his constituents simply couldn’t relate to the president.
    “I’m not naming any names, but one senator got up from a southern state and said, ‘Well, you’ve got to understand that to my people down here, Obama seems like he’s exotic,’” Harkin told the newspaper. “That he’s just exotic, he doesn’t share our values.”

  13. 13.

    Stephen Brophy

    @dmsilev: I’m here to say this also. Now that you have I’ll only add that this line has never seemed more relevant in my long life.

  14. 14.

    Hunter Gathers

    protesters like Deanne Bartram raised a sign saying, “Impeach the Half-White Muslim!”

    Deanna Bartram, a 17-year-old University of Arizona student from Black Canyon City, lashed out at people who call her racist for not supporting Obama. She believes Obama supporters use the “race card” against her because they disagree with her political message.

    How someone that fucking stupid got into any college is the clearest sign of the impending apocalypse I’ve ever seen.

  15. 15.

    David Hunt

    @beer time somewhere: The “47% Negro” nonsense is a reference to the GOP talking point that the 47% of Americans who pay no Federal Income Tax are freeloaders. Note that the “freeloader” portion is equated the supposed percentage of blackness and rest of him with the non-freeloader portion. What a coincidence!

  17. 17.

    kindness

    What is it with the right turning things on their head and then saying it is correct?

    A week ago Senator Cruz was pushing the meme that if Obama failed to allow a budget to go through that eliminated all funding for the ACA, then the government shut down would be Obama’s fault.

    Now these yahoos are saying it is Obama that is creating a more racist state of affairs.

    WTF is in the water these TeaHaddists are drinking anyhow?

  19. 19.

    pacem appellant

    Brutus met a very dishonorable end, and later so did Marc Antony. I want no part of this tragedy.

  24. 24.

    Betty Cracker

    One of the funniest complaints about the Obama Effect I’ve personally heard was from my old granny, who is totally NOT a racist (just ask her), who said she’d noticed a marked increase in the number of black people in TV commercials since 2008. You hardly see white people at all on commercials anymore, she tells me.

  29. 29.

    piratedan

    @John Cole: it just goes to show that even some teenagers are about as self aware as that 77 year old ex-Marine. I’d love to read her essay on the current administration’s assault on the Constitution and point out which laws have been broken.

  30. 30.

    mai naem

    I want y’all to know that the Scary Black Kenyan Man screwed up my commute yesterday. We had rain yesterday so of course you can guess that the teabaggers don’t know how to drive in the rain so I figured it was a bunch of accidents but it wasn’t. The freeway had a bunch of rolling closures when he came to town. BTW, the HS he went to is in a higher income end of town – I was kind of surprised he didn’t pick a different area of town.

  31. 31.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @kindness:
    They live their lives knowing they’ll be publicly shamed for directly saying things like ‘How did a nigger become president?’ or ‘I voted for George W Bush.’ They’re desperate to make liberals feel that shame. It’s created new highs in projection and willfully blind reasoning like ‘I’m not racist, I just want him to go back where he came from.’

  32. 32.

    Rafer Janders

    @BGinCHI:

    It’s in the intro material to the Norton Shakespeare and is always a good reminder that “Moor” in England in the Elizabethan period does not necessarily mean “black.”

    No, “Moor” meant North African Muslim, i.e. the people in present day Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, and Libya. Who are not, indeed, black but are rather Arab or Berber.

  34. 34.

    Betty Cracker

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I haven’t asked her about that. I try to avoid political discussions with 80% or so of my family altogether in the interest of harmony, especially the very old farts, who aren’t gonna change. This grandmother at least doesn’t email, unlike the other, who does and makes the world stupider with every forward. Le sigh.

  37. 37.

    Elizabelle

    More from the Arizona Central story:

    Judy Burris said that she blames Obama for racism in America reaching heights not seen since the 1960s Civil-Rights Era.

    “We have gone back so many years,” she said. “He’s divided all the races. I hate him for that.”

    She said that she brought her 12-year-old grandson Christian Cabrera to the protests because she thought it would be educational.

    “He’s Mexican,” she said of her grandson.

    Cabrera said he wanted to accompany his grandma “so I could protest about impeaching Obama.”

    That is some weapons grade projection on the part of Mrs. Burris.

  38. 38.

    Suzanne

    I will just point out that the seniors of Desert Vista spontaneously sang “Happy Birthday” to him before he spoke.

    I am pointing this out because that pleases me, unlike these other racist asshats that infest my state.

    Desert Vista is in my neighborhood.

  41. 41.

    BGinCHI

    @Rafer Janders: Yeah dude, I know that, but the average denizens of London circa 1600 did not make that fine distinction. Students are often taught Othello and told that Moor means black but that ignores the range of skin color covered by that word in the period the play was written.

  42. 42.

    scav

    @Midnight Marauder: Also anyone out to disprove the there are no young republicans assumption. She’s clearly about to break into song: “Tomorrow belongs to me me me me.”

  43. 43.

    handsmile

    I’m trying to figure out the relevance of “Bye bye black sheep.” And isn’t it supposed to be “Baa Baa” anyways? Just who is “the master”, “the “dame”, and “the little boy who…” for these morans who seem to be operating with quite a bit less than three bags full.

    Martin Sexton does have a song “Bye bye black sheep”, but since it includes the lyric “This black sheep can, can stick around,” I’d expect that wouldn’t be their preferred post-racial anthem.

  44. 44.

    Violet

    @Elizabelle:

    She said that she brought her 12-year-old grandson Christian Cabrera to the protests because she thought it would be educational.

    “He’s Mexican,” she said of her grandson.

    Cabrera said he wanted to accompany his grandma “so I could protest about impeaching Obama.”

    The above caught my eye when I read it over at TPM. So her “Mexican” grandson is protesting which side of the “impeaching Obama” issue? For or against? What does this even mean?

  45. 45.

    shelly

    Love that painting, btw. It’s in the intro material to the Norton Shakespeare

    Do we know who the portrait artist was?

  48. 48.

    Violet

    @BGinCHI: You’re probably right. I’m just confused that a Latino 12-year-old boy in Arizona is protesting with a bunch of old white people against the President. It makes zero sense. Has this kid not experienced any of the anti-Latino sentiment that is present in the state amongst that crowd?

  49. 49.

    Another Bot Splainer

    As a member of the most privileged demographic in the history of the planet, these people make me want to vomit. They are human filth.

  51. 51.

    BGinCHI

    @shelly: Yes, Anonymous.

    Who was a woman, according to some woman.

    /snark

    No one knows, but that kind of portrait was very popular in the period. Mostly Dutch or Low Countries painters coming over to England to do them. Holbein, for example. But also Nicholas Hilliard, the miniaturist. Hugely popular.

  52. 52.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I wonder, in this internet age, how many of these people named in the article are getting scorched via e-mail, facebook, the tweety and the what-have-yous that all the young people enjoy.

    Tweety just said that the Tea Party movement was fed up with the big spending George W Bush in 2008, or words to that effect, and predicted Rand Paul would be the GOP nominee in 2016. Do you think he’d bet me a year’s salary on that?

  54. 54.

    Another Holocene Human

    “I’m part Indian.”

    uh-huh.

    Just like everything else we stole from the Native Americans we’re going to steal authenticity and moral authority too.

    Hint: refering to your Indian princess ancestor or blood quantum as proof of Indian identity is prima facie evidence you don’t know shit about Indian identity.

  55. 55.

    Joseph Nobles

    Every time I see that painting, I have to remind myself it is not a parody ad for “Homeland.”

  57. 57.

    ? Martin

    @John Cole: In isolation, I totally agree. But this isn’t in isolation. Here’s a crowd of people of which that 17 year old is but one element, and the 17 year old isn’t an outlier. I think it’s not unreasonable to assume that everyone in the crowd agrees broadly with the sentiment shared by the folks being profiled here, otherwise they would leave.

  58. 58.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @shelly:

    Do we know who the portrait artist was?

    The ever-prolific Anonymous, according to Tom’s attribution note.

  64. 64.

    Hal

    @Violet:

    Grandma’s a real gem. So nice of her to indoctrinate her grandson in her hatred. I wonder if the parents are aware of this?

    Judy Burris said that she blames Obama for racism in America reaching heights not seen since the 1960s Civil-Rights Era.

    “We have gone back so many years,” she said. “He’s divided all the races. I hate him for that.”

  65. 65.

    Davis X. Machina

    @Another Bot Splainer: You think it’s easy being part of an oppressed majority? No one’s ever had to put up with that before. The feeling of powerlessness that comes with owning everything, and running everything — it’s horrible.

  66. 66.

    ? Martin

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Tweety just said that the Tea Party movement was fed up with the big spending George W Bush in 2008,

    So, the ‘Taxed Enough Already’ groups, which launched 4 days after Obama was inaugurated, was all about Bush. Got it.

  70. 70.

    Villago Delenda Est

    John Roberts is an honorable man.

    Objection, your honor! No foundation for this characterization!

  72. 72.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Violet: ah. In this case, I’ll go with Cole’s leave the kids alone policy– he has no idea what he’s talking about. Not with a college student carrying a racist political sign who will be voting in 2014, and ’16.

  73. 73.

    IowaOldLady

    Hey, she’s not racist. She can’t help it that the president is blah and that’s the first and only thing she sees.

  78. 78.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Villago Delenda Est: Heh, that was my first thought, too, but then I thought maybe the wording was too polite for the Grand Elf of the Nathan Bedford Forrest Heritage Association.

  81. 81.

    scav

    Wouldn’t it be special if grandma’s comments got the INS called out to check up on her being educated and presumably beloved grandson’s legality? She’s certainly blethering on in a crowd likely to inform on them there Mexicans on this side of the border . . .

  83. 83.

    I am not a kook

    Nothing of substance to add, just white hot disgust. Vile assholes setting themselves apart from any basic human decency. I wish I could go and spit these fuckers in the face.

    Some of those young people might be salvageable with the right kind of intervention. Their elders have a lot to answer for.

    youtube.com/watch?v=gqH_0LPVoho

  84. 84.

    Violet

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yeah, agreed. It just made no sense to me. I don’t give the 17 year old girl much slack at all. She’ll be able to vote in the next Federal election and possibly even this year depending on when her birthday is.

  86. 86.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @John Cole:

    Someone has hacked John Cole’s personal login to post this frankly not very well thought out comment.

    Or is it the pre-Terry Schiavo John Cole posting from a time portal?

  88. 88.

    catpal

    @Hunter Gathers: well even so-called Adult Repubs are not very bright. In 2013 “ACORN—defunct for 3 years—is still being defunded by House Republicans”

    Republicans believe ACORN is so powerful that, at least according to a PPP survey, 49 percent of them think that ACORN stole the 2012 presidential election.

    via dailykos

  89. 89.

    ruemara

    @Elizabelle: Her grandson is American. I wonder why all she sees is that he’s Mexican. Poor kid, you won’t get her to love you more if you hate the same people she hates.

    These people are seriously disgusting.

  93. 93.

    Suffern ACE

    @IowaOldLady: well that and the protest sign was clearly a reference to coddling the bankers. Or drones. Maybe we’re reading it wrong.

  94. 94.

    notorious JRT

    @IowaOldLady:
    So Ms Bartram does not like being called a racist for her views. Wonder how she will feel about “Deanne, you ignorant slut”?

  96. 96.

    Lol

    The kid is 12 so I’m going to cut him slack.

    But it does hint at the upcoming redefinition of white in 20 year that will include Hispanics so they can still tell themselves they’re the majority. It’s a long tradition for white America to incorporate formerly scorned minorities in order to retain majority status.

  97. 97.

    gene108

    I am disappointed that with all the NSA data gathering Dear Leader Obama still allows anti-government* activity to exist. I hope the NSA uses its expanded police powers to rush black helicopters to detain the anti-government protestors.

    *As Obama is President any protest against him is a protest against the government, as we are now an autocratic dictatorship under the rule of Dear Leader Obama; Dear Leader Obama is the government.

  99. 99.

    Elizabelle

    For those home tonight:

    1) Fred McMurray Day on Turner Classic Movies: at 8:00 p Eastern: Murder, He Says from 1945, with Fred as a pollster (!) who stumbles across a family of criminals on his rounds, then a short flick from 1944 about a dog,

    with Double Indemnity to follow at ten Eastern.

    2) BBC America: Broadchurch, a British police procedural that’s highly praised, at ten Eastern and one a.m. Eastern.

    Don’t miss Broadchurch, is the word.

  100. 100.

    Punchy

    Something doesnt compute…unless Ms. Bartram started college when she was sixteen, she’s not both 17 AND a college student yet. Classes havent begun yet. She may be a prospective student, but not a current one.

  101. 101.

    Tone in DC

    Every time I think these gas-holes can’t do any worse, slink any lower, the
    just have to prove me wrong.
    Every damn time.

  108. 108.

    JCT

    @Suzanne: Sometimes it is hard to remember that anyone out here is a decent human being, so that is nice to hear.

    On the way to the campus (U of A) yesterday there was a group of real oldsters dancing around on a corner with a bunch of obnoxious “Impeach Obama” etc signs. Nothing overtly racist thank goodness – but they did get their share of middle fingers from drivers. It was a rare cool day in the summer – probably what brought them out. Otherwise they would have keeled over and ended up in my ED by noon. Covered by Medicare of course!

  109. 109.

    pseudonymous in nc

    @BGinCHI:

    I really never, ever thought Blazing Saddles would be the most prescient American film ever made.

    Oh, I did.

    I think we’re going to see a lot more sheriff-is-near moments, especially in the last couple of years of Obama’s term once the GOP presidential clown car revs up.

  111. 111.

    The Moar You Know

    Passed a car on the freeway going home. Back window filled with the two-tone Obama face poster, except where the poster said “HOPE” the guy had printed, one letter per 8×11 sheet of paper, “ASSHOLE”.

    That’s a normal, sane response to political disagreements, right?

    I pity any parent with kids who gets behind that car.

  112. 112.

    JD_Rhoades

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Tweety just said that the Tea Party movement was fed up with the big spending George W Bush in 2008, or words to that effect, and predicted Rand Paul would be the GOP nominee in 2016

    Please God, let it be so. Rand Paul is a dick, and every time he gets in a verbal tussle with someone, his natural dickishness shines through like a beacon, and his opponent’s poll numbers go up. Happened with Hillary Clinton, happened with Chris Christie. It’ll be a massacre.

    And it could very well happen. To the Rethuglican primary voter, being a dick is not a bug, it’s a feature. But to the general electorate it’s the kiss of death.

  113. 113.

    Botsplainer

    @kindness:

    I flipped the radio to that idiot Mark Levin the other night, and he was yammering on about the evil of not just giving in and letting half of one-third of the government (the gerrymandered House GOP as driven by fear of the teatards) set the entirety of government agenda and policy.

    The squeaky fuckwit was in a spit-foaming rage about it, too, nearly unhinged.

  114. 114.

    pseudonymous in nc

    @Violet:

    So her “Mexican” grandson is protesting which side of the “impeaching Obama” issue?

    Also, to old white people, “Mexican” = “somewhat Hispanic US Citizen”. With a possible exception for children of the Cuban diaspora.

  116. 116.

    Fluke bucket

    My favorite comment concerning this entire kerfuffle, “Arizona: Where the men are men and the sheep are nervous”

  117. 117.

    dopey-o

    @burnspbesq: saw this today, promptly stole it:

    Some are born ignorant
    Some grow ignorant
    Some insist on it!

    it was probably on the great orange satan…

  119. 119.

    mclaren

    @kindness:

    What is it with the right turning things on their head and then saying it is correct?

    This is the classic Nixon strategy, refined by Ann Coulter. She screams hateful insults at liberals, then call liberals “People filled with hate who scream insults at real Americans.” She advocates the murder of liberals, then says that liberals are the violent ones who want to murder conservatives.

    It’s the Big Lie. Tell a lie so huge, so mind-boggling, that it stops people in their tracks because it’s so obviously the reverse of reality.

    It works. Just take a look at the swift boating of John Kerry. You had a draft dodger hiring actors to smear a war hero for his alleged cowardice in battle.

  120. 120.

    DTOzone

    @ruemara: My cousin is black and yet my grandmother and my aunts say she’s favorited by her parents because of her race and got into college because of affirmative action.

  121. 121.

    Debbie(aussie)

    If we all ‘go back where we came from’ it would make for an over crowded Europe. Oh. And just where does Obama go.
    Me? Ancestry includes ; Denmark. France, Scotland, Cornwall & England (3rd gen, very white aussie) which of course makes me Australian. But we have plenty of similarly ancestered Aussies stating ‘certain’ people’s should ‘go back where they came from’. Bastards the lot them and racist bigots too boot.

  123. 123.

    Tonybrown74

    Ah … let’s call it the Trayvon Martin Syndrome.

    By simply being black, (or 47% black, or 1/2 white muslim, or not going back to Honolulu where he is from), the President is at least partly responsible for the racist attacks against him.

    But it’s okay, because Miss Thing is 1/2 Grand Cherokee princess or something!

    My brain weeps …

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