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Shallow, uninformed, and lacking identity

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Steelers v. Redskins and a General Open Thread Since No One Gives A Shit About This Game But I Will Watch Every Second Anyway

by John Cole|  August 19, 20138:04 pm| 134 Comments

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  1. 1.

    Roger Moore

    August 19, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    Do you plan on stomping on other posters, or is it just a singular talent? Not that it matters, since it’s just another open thread you’re stomping on.

  2. 2.

    imonlylurking

    August 19, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    Twin Cities meetup Saturday?? 3 or 4-ish, at Bulldogs/Shamrocks/Sawadtees in St Paul. Anybody interested?

  3. 3.

    Anne Laurie

    August 19, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    What news on Rosie? Hot spot, tumor or osteoarthritis?

  4. 4.

    JPL

    August 19, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    Sorta football related.. Huffington Post had pictures of Ray Lewis’ house that is for sale outside of Baltimore. It’s not expensive considering the salary he earned but you need an extra million to redecorate… link

  5. 5.

    debit

    August 19, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    A week ago today, I saw a kitten, three to four months old, on the Greenway. I assumed it had been dumped there, as I could approach (but not touch) it and it (eventually) took food from my hand. After seven fruitless days of trying to catch it, Operation: Infinite Kitten has concluded. Kitten is now hiding somewhere in the depths of my basement. I hope that after a few days of recovering from the trauma of being trapped it will be amenable to being socialized.

  6. 6.

    Steeplejack

    August 19, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    Got the game on in the background myself. Nothing much else on, so I’ll bounce between that and the Nats-Cubs game. Hometown teams all the way tonight!

  7. 7.

    drkrick

    August 19, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    @JPL: Less purple than I expected, but good lord that bathroom!

  8. 8.

    JPL

    August 19, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    @Anne Laurie: Since I wrote several comment down below, that he didn’t notice or didn’t care about, I assume she is fine.

  9. 9.

    NotMax

    August 19, 2013 at 8:14 pm

    Shouldn’t that now be Steelers v. the Washington D.C. NFL team?

    Also too, is digital space so precious that the legaistic v. is preferred to the more traditional vs. for competitive match-ups?

  10. 10.

    Steeplejack

    August 19, 2013 at 8:16 pm

    @debit:

    Good on you! Kitty will come around soon, and you’ll have a valuable addition to the family.

    When I got the housecat a year ago, she disappeared through a hole in the cabinet under the kitchen sink into the wall for 24 hours, and after I got her back out of there she spent four or five days under the covers at the foot of the bed. Now she acts like she owns the place (which she does).

  11. 11.

    debit

    August 19, 2013 at 8:16 pm

    I would also like to know about Rosie.

  12. 12.

    lamh36

    August 19, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    Apparently, the Obamas have a new puppy. Introducing “Sunny” Obama

    youtu.be/iGZ2nlkTuEE

  13. 13.

    lamh36

    August 19, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    Senator: Obama Administration Secretly Suspended Military Aid to Egypt

    The White House has quietly placed military aid to Egypt on hold, despite not saying publicly whether the Egyptian military takeover was a coup, Josh Rogin reports exclusively.

  14. 14.

    geg6

    August 19, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    I GIVE A SHIT, COLE!

    You aren’t the only masochistic Stiller fan around here, ya know.

  15. 15.

    JPL

    August 19, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    @lamh36: Saw that below and left you a message. How neat…

  16. 16.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 19, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    @NotMax: Also too, is digital space so precious

    True story, although hardly relevant. Years ago we hired a programmer who had been trained in and emigrated from the ex-USSR. In order to avoid “waste” he’d attempt to use every column of 80-column punch cards when writing code. Punch cards were not to be wasted frivolously where he was trained. Needless to say, his code was pretty much incomprehensible. He didn’t last very long.

  17. 17.

    geg6

    August 19, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    @lamh36:

    Good. Hopefully, the military will see the wisdom of elections.

  18. 18.

    mclaren

    August 19, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    The same football game should be recorded and rebroadcast forever as new game each week. The sports fans would not notice, and it would save vast amounts of money.

  19. 19.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 19, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    @lamh36: That’s not very secret, is it?

  20. 20.

    TaMara (BHF)

    August 19, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    @lamh36: OMGosh! Thanks for that link. Cutie pie. Bo has a girlfriend.

  21. 21.

    Long Tooth

    August 19, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    The Steelers looked their age last season, and I think NFL defenses will catch up with RG3 this year.

  22. 22.

    caring and sensitive

    August 19, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    As Bill Simmons would say “TAINT”

  23. 23.

    Cheryl from Maryland

    August 19, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    I know of at least three Washington fans, including me, watching this game. One lives in Dallas. Oh, good job Kerrigan.

  24. 24.

    debit

    August 19, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    @Steeplejack: Well, I currently have three cats and a dog (all rescues) and wasn’t looking for another, but I couldn’t leave the little bugger there. We’d just lost our eldest cat; I suppose the universe is trying to tell me the number of the cats shall be four.

  25. 25.

    lamh36

    August 19, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    @abbydphillip Ted Cruz says in a statement he’ll renounce Canadian citizenship.

  26. 26.

    Mnemosyne

    August 19, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    @lamh36:

    There’s also a post on the White House blog about her.

    I found out because my co-worker subscribes to the White House Flickr feed and said, “Hey, when did the Obamas get a new dog?”

    @debit:

    Kitty! I’m sure that s/he will forgive you once s/he realizes that food will arrive on a regular schedule and doesn’t have to be hunted for. Sitting in the basement with a book in one hand while dangling a feather toy in the other will also help a few days from now once kitty figures out where the eating and pooping places are.

    ETA: It may also help once new kitty realizes there are other cats in the house — makes him/her less worried that s/he has been trapped in order to be eaten.

  27. 27.

    Redshirt

    August 19, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    @Roger Moore: As if Cole has any idea how to run a blog…

  28. 28.

    SatanicPanic

    August 19, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    So I got an email at work from a contact and it had one of those disclaimers at the bottom that looked like one of those think about the environment before printing things, but instead it said- don’t worry about the environment, there are lots of trees, and the paper industry employs lots of American workers!

    So conservatives are now at the point where they are encouraging people to waste company provided stationary so they can stick it to environmentalists and are making that appeal based on the idea of stimulating an industry that is possibly in trouble. Genius!

  29. 29.

    Baud

    August 19, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    @lamh36:

    Prelude to invasion in 2017.

  30. 30.

    Anoniminous

    August 19, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    Given the advances in computer graphics it should be possible to use the NFL’s and other sourced film backlog and “virtualize” games for broadcast. No more player’s salaries, no more coaches (the post-game interviews can all be done with CGI as well,) no trainers, no boring waits while the refs look at the instant replay, no expensive refs either.

    All in all, a WIN! for the owners.

    ETA: or what mclaren said.

  31. 31.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    August 19, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    @debit:

    Another kitten showed up at my front door the other week. I named him(her) Weenie because he was so ragged and pathetic. He has been in the house for a couple of weeks and is now bossing around the other cats because he can. When I give the cats their morning crack (evaporated milk) he just shoves the other cats out of the way and drinks until he turns himself into a football on legs. His previously ragged and nasty coat is now turning into nice fur that actually covers his bones and the other cats are actually beginning to accept him as part of the pride. I am so doomed because I am such a sucker.

  32. 32.

    Roger Moore

    August 19, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    @lamh36:
    As I read it, they’re not officially calling it a coup but they are suspending aid. By denying the aid, they’re saying they’re upset and giving that some force, but by not officially calling it a coup, they’re leaving open the possibility of restoring it. They still don’t have much leverage, but it’s more than they’d have if they committed one way or the other.

  33. 33.

    Mary G

    August 19, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    @debit: Yay for you. Let us know how it goes.

    I would also like to know about Rosie, perhaps after the football game is over?

    @lamh36: Sunny O is adorable!

  34. 34.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    August 19, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    @SatanicPanic:

    These are the same people who encourage folks to park their SUVs on the side of the road running as a protest against the DFHs environmental movement. These are the people who cut off their nose to spite their face by leaving every single light in their house on 24 hours a day seven days a week so they have to pay a $500 power bill for FREEDOM!. Idiots.

  35. 35.

    Mnemosyne

    August 19, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    I am so doomed because I am such a sucker.

    I’m convinced the local population somehow puts a marker on your house. A friend at work ended up with three (3) Ragdoll kittens a few weeks after their elderly cat died — the kittens just showed up in the backyard and were like, “Hi, we live here now.”

  36. 36.

    mainmati

    August 19, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    Yeah, I’m watching it too, John. Ruthlesshamburger is looking pretty shitty and the Skins are finally a significantly improved team. Last time they won the Super Bowl was when my son was born and he’s about to be a senior in college so there’s that. I’ve been living outside DC in MD suburbs for a long time (when not posted overseas) so spouse and kids are all Skins fans leaving me the odd guy out in the household. That said, there are a lot of Steeler fans in this region too.

  37. 37.

    JPL

    August 19, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    @Roger Moore: It was a pretty smart move because they still have some leverage.

  38. 38.

    Steeplejack

    August 19, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    @debit:

    Plus, I seem to remember, you foolishly let your daughter bond with the kitty while you were trying to cage it in the wild.

  39. 39.

    imonlylurking

    August 19, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    Well, Bob’s surgery was today, not Saturday. The good news is it was $1200, which is less than the estimate. The bad news is the ligament that the surgeon had to repair was not the one they originally thought was damaged. The ripped one is one that is more difficult to fix. (Of course.) The surgeon had to improvise, which is never something you want to hear. Bob’s knee is never going to work properly. Right now he is tanked to the gills on his painkiller. All he can do is sprawl on the floor and scream so he’s getting his doses a little closer together than scheduled.

  40. 40.

    Roger Moore

    August 19, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    Given the advances in computer graphics it should be possible to use the NFL’s and other sourced film backlog and “virtualize” games for broadcast.

    You may not realize it, but people do still go and watch the games in person. They sell tickets and everything.

  41. 41.

    Mnemosyne

    August 19, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    @JPL:

    I’ve seen worse, but my family’s been in real estate for a couple of generations (not me, but my cousins carry on the tradition). The only really bad spot is the living room — the rest could probably work with a few tweaks of paint and carpeting.

    But maybe it’s just because I’d love a walk-in closet so big it can be used as a living room … and I don’t even have that many shoes!

  42. 42.

    Baud

    August 19, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    There was an old Superfriends episode with that plot.

  43. 43.

    JPL

    August 19, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    @imonlylurking: Who is Bob? I missed the original post but I assume he is an animal in pain because the cost would be $120,000 if not.

  44. 44.

    TriassicSands

    August 19, 2013 at 8:41 pm

    Maybe asking more than once will get an answer — How is Rosie?

    “But I will watch every second anyway.”

    John, you’re never going to get much accomplished on that long list of things — important things — you said you want to do in life if you’re glued to the television set. Put the TV back in its box, put it in a closet (or better the attic or even a storage locker in another town), and get to work — that dissertation is waiting. Spectator sports, especially on television, are the enemy of action. Finish the dissertation and you can make everyone here address you as Dr. Cole.

  45. 45.

    Steeplejack

    August 19, 2013 at 8:42 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    Yeah, the slide show was not as awful as I thought it would be. I actually like the outside (front) a lot, although it’s not a style I would ever be likely to live in (or be able to afford).

    No way that’s an “Olympic pool,” though. Got to be 50 meters long for that.

  46. 46.

    notoriousJRT

    August 19, 2013 at 8:44 pm

    How is Rosie doing?

  47. 47.

    Comrade Jake

    August 19, 2013 at 8:46 pm

    New dog at the WH, eh? Has he leaked yet?

  48. 48.

    Roger Moore

    August 19, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    I thought the worst part was the furniture, but that’s going to change anyway.

  49. 49.

    SatanicPanic

    August 19, 2013 at 8:48 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: If I had been in a position to do it, I would have responded- “It’s company policy to not waste paper man, and I’m not going to get myself in trouble for some moocher tree cutters in Oregon”

  50. 50.

    Roger Moore

    August 19, 2013 at 8:48 pm

    @Comrade Jake:

    Has he leaked yet?

    Given what Obama does to leakers, I sure hope not.

  51. 51.

    Poopyman

    August 19, 2013 at 8:50 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: WARNING! Cats that have been deprived in the wild will not know when to stop eating and will get HUGE! Start rationing before it’s too late.

    I’ve got a 26 pounder who’s best friends with our little 9-pound tortie, and trying to get the little girl to eat without fatso getting half of it is a constant challenge.

  52. 52.

    JPL

    August 19, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    @Roger Moore: I tried to imagine the rooms empty and as a dyi person, it’s expensive to fix. There is a decorator quite pleased with their commission.

  53. 53.

    Mnemosyne

    August 19, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    Yeah, I’m more the bungalow/Not So Big House type myself. Still, that closet!

  54. 54.

    Schlemizel

    August 19, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    @imonlylurking:

    I’d have to check my calendar but I am interested

  55. 55.

    imonlylurking

    August 19, 2013 at 8:53 pm

    @JPL: Bob is one of our cats, the Manx that thinks he has a sense of balance and is constantly falling off of things. We thought he had been hit by a car at first. I think I would have preferred a broken leg.

  56. 56.

    Mnemosyne

    August 19, 2013 at 8:53 pm

    Also, has anyone here ever used wool-stuffed pillows? I saw Jane2 post about her new ones below, but that thread has too many comments to get an answer from. I can’t use down or feather because of allergies and I seem to wreck any pillows with inserts. Foam is too heavy and painfully compresses my carpal tunnels.

  57. 57.

    lamh36

    August 19, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    Any lady True Blood fans on BJ. I didn’t watch this season of True Blood, but I never need a reason to lust after Alexander Skaarsgaard, i.e. Eric Northam.

    Enjoy, my fellow Vampire Eric fans.

    The 36 Best Eric Northman Moments From “True Blood”

  58. 58.

    Gravenstone

    August 19, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    What the fucking fuck, over? OK teens kill a man because they were “bored”.

  59. 59.

    debit

    August 19, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Yep, I have my Kindle loaded up in preparation for some serious basement time.

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Oh FSM, I know how that is. All three of mine basically walked in the back door and said, “Man, it sucks out there. Hey, is that cat food?” Are there pictures of the newest addition?

    @Steeplejack: I did. She was thinking up names before I even got it home.

  60. 60.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    August 19, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I thought of changing my nym to Bungalow Bill.

  61. 61.

    JPL

    August 19, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Once upon a time, I happened to see the closet of the manager of a dept store… Closets are not my thing normally, but it was my bosses fault. We were their for lunch and we were sneaks. That is the first time, I realized that people love their shoes.

  62. 62.

    Redshirt

    August 19, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    @lamh36: I like Buzzfeed for the kitty pics and 80’s stuff; I worry about the Koch branded politics section.

    It’s a concrete step the Rethugs have taken towards appealing to the utes, and it worries me.

  63. 63.

    JPL

    August 19, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    @imonlylurking: This hasn’t been a good few months for animals in our family.
    My son lost his cat to feline leukemia but the cat was twelve and I lost Miss Moxie my dog, to cancer and she was fourteen or fifteen. Hopefully Bob is okay.

  64. 64.

    lamh36

    August 19, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    @lamh36: Um ok, forget True Blood for a moment…Now this is more my thing!

    26 Reasons To Give Your Life Over To The Glory That Is Idris Elba
    He is perfection in human form, basically.

  65. 65.

    raven

    August 19, 2013 at 9:01 pm

    Jarvis bitches, Jarvis.

  66. 66.

    JPL

    August 19, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    This could be the best Steelers thread evah… Except for the lack of updates about Rosie.

  67. 67.

    Steeplejack

    August 19, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    I like a lot of different styles, but I definitely like efficient use of space. The Not So Big House is a great book, although, like a lot of authors, Susanka (or the publisher) tried to turn it into a cottage industry and the later books are not as good.

    There was a really good series on HGTV or one of those channels about 10 years ago called This Small Space, which specialized in homes and apartments that you could actually picture real people living in. But very well done up, of course.

  68. 68.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    August 19, 2013 at 9:05 pm

    @Poopyman: I have seen that up close. He gorges himself on the evaporated milk in the morning and then gorges himself with the dry food right after that. Right now I am more concerned about him getting some meat on his bones and actually looking like a real cat. Once he gets a bit beefed up I will worry about him being overweight. Right now my main concern is him putting on some weight, not being overweight. Every time I look at him eating and the fur on his shoulders parts to show his bones, I am just grateful that he is eating, heartily.

  69. 69.

    Roger Moore

    August 19, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    I like a lot of different styles, but I definitely like efficient use of space.

    IKEA puts a lot of effort into that stuff. They have spaces where they’ve tried to put together a whole house in 500 square feet or whatever. There are obvious compromises- I’m not sure that they’d be great for guests- but you can squeeze a lot in if you try. It also reminded me of Stieg Larson and his obsession with describing houses and apartments by their square footage; I guess it must be a really serious point in Sweden.

  70. 70.

    NotMax

    August 19, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    @Mnemosyne

    2 words: water pillow.

    You might find the categorized reviews on different types of pillows here useful.

  71. 71.

    lamh36

    August 19, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    NBC Nightly News ‏@nbcnightlynews5m
    Just in: @VP’s son, Beau Biden, ‘being evaluated to determine the cause of an episode of disorientation,’ WH says.

  72. 72.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    August 19, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    @debit: I would happily post pictures of the new kitteh unfortunately the dogs (no idea who exactly) ate my lead (from the camera to the computer) so now I am completely and utterly devoid of ways to post pictures to the web. Puppies with chewing issues suck.

  73. 73.

    Steeplejack

    August 19, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    I am semi-addicted to the “shelter” shows on HGTV and other channels, and I am regularly amazed to see some tour of a huge, expensive house and see how awfully it is laid out and furnished. Lots of not so expensive places look bad too (e.g., “before” on Love It or List It), but it’s more shocking with the upscale places. And the opportunities for wasted space are greater.

  74. 74.

    raven

    August 19, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: There is not an SD card in your camera?

  75. 75.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    August 19, 2013 at 9:17 pm

    @Roger Moore:
    My house is 1094 square feet, and to be honest is too big for me and the DH. It works when my mum comes to visit for 6 weeks of the year but other than that we could live with half the space. We basically ignore the entire upstairs for 11 months of the year. We live in the ground floor, with our living room, kitchen, bedroom and bathroom, the second floor is storage to be honest.

  76. 76.

    different-church-lady

    August 19, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    “We’re talking about practice!”

  77. 77.

    raven

    August 19, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    FDR and a big big grouper in 1924!

  78. 78.

    Roger Moore

    August 19, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    I am semi-addicted to the “shelter” shows on HGTV and other channels, and I am regularly amazed to see some tour of a huge, expensive house and see how awfully it is laid out and furnished.

    I’d bet that a lot of those places were done by the owners, who just don’t know all the tricks to make a place work. Hell, I’m sure somebody who knew what they were doing could make much better use of the space in my place than I’ve managed, and probably make it look a hell of a lot better, too. Thinking about it, I wonder if people wouldn’t be better off saving money by buying smaller houses and using some the savings to pay a competent interior designer to lay the places out for them.

  79. 79.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    August 19, 2013 at 9:22 pm

    @raven</a Are you ready for this. Battery dies on the camera. Dogs ate the charger (ate or hid not sure which) back up camera HP 945 suddenly hates the memory card and does not recognize it, bloggie video camera takes absolutely shitty shots as does the Samsung phone.

  80. 80.

    lamh36

    August 19, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    Maine Gov: Obama “Hates White People”

  81. 81.

    raven

    August 19, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Ya win some, ya lose some and some you shoulda never showed up for!

  82. 82.

    areallygoodhandle

    August 19, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    Why no posts about the Obama’s new puppy?

  83. 83.

    raven

    August 19, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    @lamh36: Shit, I’m white and I feel the same way.

  84. 84.

    Billy Dilly

    August 19, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    @SatanicPanic: Reading about fracking in Texas and the fact that towns are running out of water, some conservative Texan was ragging on all the liberals because the reason there is no water because of RAIN!! Of course it begs the question, why is there little rain in Texas, maybe the effects of the petroleum products, that comes from fracking? Also if water is so scarce, shouldn’t the water be used for purposes other than fracking? But we are talking Texas here.

  85. 85.

    Baud

    August 19, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    @raven:

    Huh?

  86. 86.

    raven

    August 19, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    @Baud: Watching Ken Burns “The West” right now and it’s pretty hard NOT to hate white people when we are reminded in detail what lying murders we cone from.

  87. 87.

    Roger Moore

    August 19, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    My house is 1094 square feet, and to be honest is too big for me and the DH

    Sure, but you’re British and Navy, both of which give you a leg up on the average American in knowing how to fit into a small space.

  88. 88.

    Steeplejack

    August 19, 2013 at 9:31 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Exactly. I’m sure a lot of the places were “done” by the owners, but if they’ve got the dough to afford a 5,000- or 10,000-square-foot place they could definitely afford a little “interior therapy” to make the place look really nice.

    And lighting. Lighting is another hot-button issue for me.

  89. 89.

    Roger Moore

    August 19, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    @lamh36:

    Maine Gov: Obama “Hates White People”

    And with representatives of our race like Paul LePage, can you really blame him?

  90. 90.

    Baud

    August 19, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    @raven:

    Ah. I read your comment to mean that you felt the same way as LePage, not the same way as Obama (as he lives in LePage’s imagination).

    Long day.

  91. 91.

    burnspbesq

    August 19, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    @mclaren:

    it would save vast amounts of money.

    Yes it would. It would save vast amounts of money for the owners, a cabal of mostly billionaires who have run roughshod over the antitrust laws for the better part of a century.

    Your concern for them, while touching, seems a bit surprising.

  92. 92.

    lamh36

    August 19, 2013 at 9:35 pm

    Never heard this before, but apparently, Prince did talk about that Chappelle skit. Here’s a clip from back in the day and he says the incident with Charlie Murphy actually was true!!

    Prince Discussed the Dave Chappelle Show Skit!!!
    soundcloud.com/zaheerali/prince-discussing-chappelle

  93. 93.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    August 19, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    I guess Greenwald has gone full metal angry spouse and has decided to start threatening the UK with releasing information relating to their own spying., saying: “I have many documents on England’s spy system. I think they will be sorry for what they did, …”

    Yup, he’s one calm, cool, collected individual indeed. Steady as a rock.

  94. 94.

    burnspbesq

    August 19, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    Re the ESPN piece Gravenstone linked:

    Tell me this would have happened if these young men hadn’t had access to firearms. G’head, tell me that.

  95. 95.

    Redshirt

    August 19, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    Ah, Governor LePage. A daily source of entertainment.

    If he wins next year, FSM help us all and damn 3rd parties to the colander.

  96. 96.

    burnspbesq

    August 19, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    @Odie Hugh Manatee:

    The word you’re looking for might be “megalomaniac.”

  97. 97.

    Redshirt

    August 19, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    Here’s some more Maine Republican news (as goes Maine, so goes the nation):

    WE QUIT

    Summary: The Paultards took over the Maine Republican party in 2010, and then got shivved by the Romney campaign in 2012. And so, they all quit the party.

    Let us hope they lead the way.

  98. 98.

    newdealfarmgrrrlll

    August 19, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    @imonlylurking:

    i mostly lurk here, but i’d be interested in a twin cities meetup on saturday. i couldn’t be there until six at the earliest (don’t get off work until 5:30)

  99. 99.

    Suzanne

    August 19, 2013 at 9:46 pm

    Oh my Lord, how cute is that new First Puppeh?!

    Sunny. Perfect.

  100. 100.

    Yatsuno

    August 19, 2013 at 9:46 pm

    @newdealfarmgrrrlll: I’ll make sure wifey is aware of the plans as well, as she has been agitating for a meet-up for some time. Methinks she is jealous of me having them lots and stuff.

  101. 101.

    Comrade Jake

    August 19, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    @Redshirt: LOL. Gotta love their reasons for leaving the GOP – the party’s not conservative enough!

    Wankers.

  102. 102.

    eemom

    August 19, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    The word you’re looking for might be “megalomaniac.”

    I was kind of partial to “fucking 5 year old throwing a temper tantrum.’

  103. 103.

    J R in WV

    August 19, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    Congrats to all you guys who have just saved kittehs!

    We adopted a new dog some weeks ago, she didn’t know that that green fuzzy stuff underfoot was! Then she was afraid of rain! She was 9 months old and didn’t know anything.

    The last “trapped” kitteh we saved was an alley cat on the west side – co-workers landlady was gonna call the animal control officer cause the little orange kitteh was chasing and “fighting” with landlady’s cat. So Gretchen lured him into her house, and dropped him into a cardboard box – which barely lasted to get him home.

    When I let him out in the house, he vanished into the basement! Gone!

    We knew he was down there ’cause the food and water went away, and the litter box was used by an extra cat. We had 2 at the time. After a couple of weeks he crept up the steps, and peered around the room. We named him Harvey, ’cause he was invisible for so long…

    FSM bless you guys for working to save little folks!

    Go Stillers!

  104. 104.

    eemom

    August 19, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    Also too, I was able to mystify/impress my son with the fact that I knew who the Redskins were playing tonight, thanks to this post. (“Probly some loser posting on FB.” “Wrong!”)

    eta: and now, thanks to the teevee blaring in the kitchen, I know the Redskins are winning. Sorry Cole.

  105. 105.

    Yatsuno

    August 19, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    @Comrade Jake: This part from the state chairman struck me as funny:

    “I found the energy coming from those aligned with the ‘Liberty Movement’ to be terrific,” said Bennett, adding that the movement has helped draw more young people into the Republican fold. “I think all of that has been very good for our party.”

    Denial is a helluva drug.

  106. 106.

    ruemara

    August 19, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    @eemom: I submit “twerp”.

  107. 107.

    Baud

    August 19, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    @eemom:

    (“Probly some loser posting on FB.” “Wrong!”)

    The truth is soooo much worse.

  108. 108.

    Suzanne

    August 19, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    @Mnemosyne: @Steeplejack: When I was in Munich, I toured an experimental project called “the micro compact home village”. Each unit (approximately 9x9x9) was a fully self-contained housing unit. Bathroom, kitchen, living/bedroom, and dining. The “village” was a steel armature that carried the services to the units and had nice common outdoor living space. That took “compact” to absurd levels.

    I know it is architectural snobbery, but I want to build my own rammed earth home. Modern, of course. Two-foot-thick walls. Ohhhh yeah.

  109. 109.

    Redshirt

    August 19, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    @efgoldman: 3rd parties are real in Maine, so I hope they do leave the Repukes and form their own “Liberty Party” or whatever and then siphon off votes from the treasonous Rethugs. Death by a thousand Paultards would be just, up here.

  110. 110.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    August 19, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    @eemom: “I was kind of partial to “fucking 5 year old throwing a temper tantrum.’ “

    Just the kind of behavior we all look for in leading journalists!

  111. 111.

    James Hare

    August 19, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    This game doesn’t matter. I am still wearing my jersey. Go Skins!

  112. 112.

    Baud

    August 19, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    @Odie Hugh Manatee:

    Yeah, that’s some Edward R. Murrow shit there.

  113. 113.

    Redshirt

    August 19, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    @efgoldman: Well, I’m not referring only to the Governor’s race, but all the races. Any/every election that features a rival Conservative party is A-OK with me – let them fight each other.

    As for the Governor’s race, I am confident the Dem – Mike Michaud – will win. Enough ostensible Naderites have seen what splitting the vote can bring.

    I’m more interested in who takes Michaud’s congressional seat. He was one of the few remaining Blue Dogs, so it could go any number of ways.

  114. 114.

    Steeplejack

    August 19, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    @Suzanne:

    Heh, I thought you would be into all that hippie stuff. I recently replaced my old copy of Nomadic Furniture (originally published in 1973), a great book that got me thinking (as a carpenter) not just about furniture but about interior spaces and design in general. And now I’m itching to dig out my copy of A Pattern Language: Towns, Buildings, Construction, by Christopher Alexander et al. (1977), which is in a box somewhere. Another great meditation on the spaces in which we live—personal and public—and how we can make them better and more “livable.”

    What are your touchstones for architectural style and design?

  115. 115.

    burnspbesq

    August 19, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    @eemom:

    I’m still working, so I’m still in lawyer-word mode.

  116. 116.

    ? Martin

    August 19, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    In today’s edition of the GOP is totally not racist:

    Two Republican lawmakers confirmed the comment when asked directly by a Press Herald reporter, but asked that their names be withheld for fear of political retribution. Each said LePage talked about how Obama could have been the best president ever if he highlighted his biracial heritage. But, LePage said, the president hasn’t done that because he hates white people.

  117. 117.

    James Hare

    August 19, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    @TriassicSands: Dude loves the Steelers so much he’s named two cats after players and you want to lecture him about watching football?

  118. 118.

    Dead Ernest

    August 19, 2013 at 10:20 pm

    @Roger Moore:
    In best Inspector Clouseau voice:
    “Ah, the old ‘legs up’ ploy for fitting into small spaces.”

  119. 119.

    Jennifer

    August 19, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    You could have watched The Man With the 132 Pound Scrotum on TLC.

    I’m not making this up.

  120. 120.

    Suzanne

    August 19, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    @Steeplejack: I don’t do residential architecture, but the houses of Rick Joy inspire me a great deal. Renzo Piano designed my favorite building EVAR (California Academy of Sciences expansion). Also love Jean Nouvel, and SANAA, and Shigeru Ban. But I think the work of the Rural Studio is the best example of what I want to be as an architect.

    Books/texts-wise, I think it is hard to argue with Jane Jacobs “Death and Life”. I find most architectural criticism and urban theory hopelessly pretentious and elitist, actually. Margaret Crawford wrote this whole piece in which she essentially marveled at The Poors and how they oh-so-ingeniously inverted the paradigm of their front yards in South Central LA by having yard sales. Architecture and urban design are really full of trust-fund babies who don’t even consider that urban experiences often suck for poor people, women, children, old people, and disabled people. I call it “hipster urbanism”, and I hate it.

    “Bird on Fire” is a great book about my city. A clarion call.

  121. 121.

    Yatsuno

    August 19, 2013 at 10:31 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Sure, as long as they coalesce behind one Dem or progressive independent on the other side.

    I think I see the flaw in the plan…

    Do you think they’re gonna’ TeraHadi primary Collins?

    Does the Pope shit in the woods?

  122. 122.

    Redshirt

    August 19, 2013 at 10:36 pm

    @Yatsuno: There might be some Yub-Nub who tries to primary Collins, but she ain’t going anywhere. She’s a “moderate”, you see, and that’s all anyone cares about up here, apparently.

  123. 123.

    Mnemosyne

    August 19, 2013 at 10:37 pm

    @? Martin:

    Here, I’ll translate that for you: If Obama had been willing to sell black people down the river like Clarence Thomas or Herman Cain did, he would have been a great president!

  124. 124.

    TriassicSands

    August 19, 2013 at 10:39 pm

    @James Hare:

    I’m not lecturing him about watching football, but reminding him about the ambitious list of things he said he wants to do. He’s unlikely to make a dent in that list sitting in front of the television. Of course, John can take it as lecturing or a reminder, that’s up to him. It”s not my fault he pours out his thoughts, hopes, and dreams on BJ. (And the problem isn’t football, per se, the problem is television.)

  125. 125.

    Suffern ACE

    August 19, 2013 at 10:43 pm

    Hmmm. I guess if I care to look on the bright of things…when Assange and manning’s leaks were the talk of the town, we actually had the press tracking reporting on what Sarah Palin had to say about events (hint: she didn’t think Obama was doing a good job by allowing Assange to walk around unmolested). I don’t think I’ve heard one report of one peep out of her on Snowden. I think that’s progress?

  126. 126.

    different-church-lady

    August 19, 2013 at 10:45 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Yeah, but you can throw the toddler in his room and shut the door until he gets to the sobbing himself to sleep stage.

    Doesn’t anyone know how to use duct tape anymore?

  127. 127.

    eemom

    August 19, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    I’m still working, so I’m still in lawyer-word mode.

    You’ve been in the genteel confines of Orange County practice too long.

    Here in teh deecee BigLaw jungle, “fucking five year old throwing a temper tantrum” brings up multiple hits on firm bios.

  128. 128.

    Yatsuno

    August 19, 2013 at 10:47 pm

    @Redshirt: It won’t stop them from putting up someone to oppose her, even if the exercise a futile endeavour. I can’t really see any scenario under which Collins loses, unless she actually does lose the primary and can’t pull a Murkowski.

  129. 129.

    Redshirt

    August 19, 2013 at 10:55 pm

    @Yatsuno: Yeah, the odds are exceedingly slim to flip Collins’ seat. There’s no charismatic nutbag who could challenge her from the right, and no Dem with the clout to take her down straight up.

  130. 130.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    August 19, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    @Suzanne:

    Thanks for responding. Will write when I get home. Giving a friend a ride home from work (retail).

  131. 131.

    burnspbesq

    August 19, 2013 at 11:20 pm

    @eemom:

    Here in teh deecee BigLaw jungle, “fucking five year old throwing a temper tantrum” brings up multiple hits on firm bios.

    The pie is shrinking, and everybody wants a bigger slice. Conducive to bad behavior.

  132. 132.

    JW

    August 20, 2013 at 12:27 am

    Steelers got spanked. My idea of a good football game.

  133. 133.

    Tripod

    August 20, 2013 at 12:39 am

    Seriously, if you’re a fan of the game, don’t watch the pre-season. The Super-fan freakouts about who ends up 8th on the linebacker depth chart are just…. dumb. Don’t be the freak who thinks the third string QB is the second coming of Joe Montana. The coaching staff are working through which scrubs get to be tackling dummies. It doesn’t matter materially to your team’s prospects for the season.

  134. 134.

    Steeplejack

    August 20, 2013 at 12:56 am

    @Suzanne:

    It has been a long time since I read Jane Jacobs’s book. Might be time for a reread.

    I’ll have to check out Bird on Fire. It looks interesting. Possibly reminiscent of Mike Davis’s two books about Los Angeles, City of Quartz (1990) and Ecology of Fear (1998), although Davis seems to be more “sociological” and not just focused on development and sustainability.

    And thanks for the tips on the architects. I’ll check out their work.

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