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Open thread

by DougJ|  August 31, 201312:26 pm| 225 Comments

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Talk about whatever. College football, for example!

This must be the best song Big Star never did.

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  1. 1.

    gogol's wife

    August 31, 2013 at 12:29 pm

    I thought this was cute — “28 Things Only Russian Majors Understand”:

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/kirstenb4/28-things-only-russian-majors-understand-8dys

    Caution, Buzzfeed link, and don’t go there if gifs make you dizzy.

  2. 2.

    Botsplainer

    August 31, 2013 at 12:29 pm

    Juicebox Jesus is out.

  3. 3.

    MikeJ

    August 31, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    Before I hit click to play I asked myself if the best non Big Star Big Star song would be Teenage Fanclub or Matthew Sweet.

  4. 4.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    August 31, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    Who’s been trying to follow every EPL game on NBC and its cable affiliates? Have all of the feeds been terrible, or has it been limited to the games on NBC?

  5. 5.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    August 31, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    @Botsplainer:

    Vince Young got the axe, too.

  6. 6.

    burnspbesq

    August 31, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again):

    Ditto Matt Leinert.

  7. 7.

    PaulW

    August 31, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    The Tebow Abides. Another team will take him once his contractual obligations are cheap.

  8. 8.

    Hal

    August 31, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    I’m not into sports at all so I readily admit I don’t know what I’m talking about; but is my impression that Tim Tebow is terrible at football accurate? If so, why the hell does he keep getting picked up?

  9. 9.

    PaulW

    August 31, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    For your blog-reading consideration:

    http://noticeatrend.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-secret-about-white-voters.html

  10. 10.

    PaulW

    August 31, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    @Hal:

    Tebow is only terrible at throwing the ball downfield, which for a QB is not a good thing. He’s not a Pro Style quarterback, which a lot of the league uses for their offensive schemes: there’s only certain schemes – Option, I believe – he fits in well. It doesn’t help him that teams are not patient enough to give him time to fix his throwing mechanics.

    He’d be better off selling himself as an RB/FB type player right now, and give it a few years before showing if he’s got his throwing and accuracy improved.

  11. 11.

    Paddy

    August 31, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    I posted this with the BJ gang in mind.

    Video- Best Cat Adoption PSA Ever!

  12. 12.

    burnspbesq

    August 31, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    I imagine there will be no shortage of poutrage among the Neanderthals over Beth Mowins doing play-by-play on the Ohio State game.

  13. 13.

    Botsplainer

    August 31, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    @PaulW:

    He’d be better off selling himself as an RB/FB type player right now, and give it a few years before showing if he’s got his throwing and accuracy improved.

    But he’s a leader, a leader, goshdarnitall, and God will not be mocked!

  14. 14.

    Anoniminous

    August 31, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    @Hal:

    He’s a cheap date. Also picking him up gets your team a couple of million in free advertising and another couple of million when he is released.

  15. 15.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    August 31, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    @PaulW:

    Until then, he’s fodder for articles in The Onion about unemployed milennials moping around in their parents’ basements.

    I think Tebow would be best off following his cranky uncle’s advice and join the Navy.

  16. 16.

    Doug Milhous J

    August 31, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    @Hal:

    He had an amazing college career.

  17. 17.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    College football, for example!

    Ahhh…like slipping into a nice hot tub, dirty martini pitcher ready. It’s sooo good.

  18. 18.

    virag

    August 31, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    ‘a catholic education’ is a brilliant album. i certainly dug the ‘bandwagonesque’ stuff, but not as much as the first sloppy noise. the post ’91 stuff didn’t wear as well.

  19. 19.

    Botsplainer

    August 31, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    He’s a cheap date. Also picking him up gets your team a couple of million in free advertising and another couple of million when he is released.

    ESPN may not give him press for his next hire, as his sell by date is long past.

  20. 20.

    Betty Cracker

    August 31, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    Go Gators!

    PS: I bet TBogg is sorry he didn’t delay his retirement a bit — a chance to trash Tebow goes by the boards.

    Re: Tebow — in my admittedly partisan Gator opinion, he was a fantastic college QB and a pretty good guy despite the excessive god-bothering.

    I agree with the comment above that he’s better suited to a FB role in the NFL. I could see him playing a John Riggins / Mike Alstott game. The kid is tough as nails and all heart.

  21. 21.

    Botsplainer

    August 31, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    Deadspin is being delightfully shitty.

    http://deadspin.com/patriots-qb-tim-tebow-a-remembrance-1231805316

  22. 22.

    burnspbesq

    August 31, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    This isn’t good news for the US national team.

    http://www.soccerbyives.net/2013/08/sidelined-hamstring-qualifiers.html

  23. 23.

    PaulW

    August 31, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    The Tebow is out of the NFL and yet Mark “Buttfumble” Sanchez still has a starting job. There may be a God, but there is no Justice…

  24. 24.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    August 31, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    @PaulW:

    It’s not so much that he can’t throw downfield, but that he can’t zip the ball out into the flat (it’s the same reason Leinart can’t latch on anywhere). When he’s behind center, the corners can play soft man coverage and still effectively take away large swaths on the edges of the field.

  25. 25.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    @Hal:

    but is my impression that Tim Tebow is terrible at football accurate?

    As others have said, it’s not that he’s *bad* per se, but that he’s completely unsuited for the level of competition in the pro’s.
    He’s fast but not quick, way too big a target, and not even Jeebus Himself could repair that sundial clock style of a throwing motion.
    He has good arm strength but is inaccurate and takes way too long to setup, much less deliver the ball. That gives defensive players the split second they need to recover if a wide receiver has fooled them on a route.
    He can’t throw people open (meaning anticipating where a receiver will be in 2 seconds, and his inaccuracy is murder when throwing at people who are covered.
    Not to mention he’s not very bright, from what I’ve been told and I have not seen any sign that he can pick up an NFL style offensive scheme.
    For the people saying he should be a TE/RB, never happen. Running routes, timing, using body position, taking hits from full grown men every play. There are 100 people (easily) coming out of college with more skill and better risk value than trying to change Tebow now to sell tickets.

  26. 26.

    Anoniminous

    August 31, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    @Botsplainer:

    OK, I’ll buy that.

    Still has good name recognition, tho. Maybe he should move into advertising and promote shaving cream?

  27. 27.

    Thlayli

    August 31, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    @PaulW:

    Buttfumble Sanchez is injured. It’s not exactly no justice….

  28. 28.

    mellowjohn

    August 31, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    @Botsplainer: and where is tbogg when you want a nice big helping of schadenfreude?

  29. 29.

    Botsplainer

    August 31, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    excessive god-bothering

    That’s the part that makes me want to see him unhappy.

    When some tattooed kid off the rough part of the street does god-bothering, it’s tolerable, because you know that he’s seen some shit, and still has his rough patch days – plus, his parties are still all Hennessey and Hypnotiq. When Juicebox Jesus does his “gollygeewillikers, you guys” bit, normal men want to ram a fist through the TV set, because underneath all the Jello, Koolaid and church camp cookies, we’re convinced that he beats off into a sock over gay German Schiesse porn.

  30. 30.

    SarahT

    August 31, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    @virag: what you said.

  31. 31.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    August 31, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    Well Ohio State is stomping Buffalo, but somebody should be checking up on John, William & Mary is ahead of West Virginia.
    As for Tebow, what will Skip Bayless do now?

  32. 32.

    shelly

    August 31, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    Round these parts looks like it’s gonna be a rainy Labor Day weekend. Chance of thunderstorms every day.

  33. 33.

    p.a.

    August 31, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    I’ve heard people say Tebow should go to the CFL, but there’s even more passing there- 3 downs per series. This is his 4th year in the league and his mechanics are still bad. I’m sure as hell no qb coach, but just compare any decent qb’s footwork and release to his. Don’t know about him as a rb. Quarterbacks just are not used to getting hit as much as a halfback does. And fullbacks aren’t used much, but have to be good blockers.

  34. 34.

    Botsplainer

    August 31, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    @mellowjohn:

    where is tbogg when you want a nice big helping of schadenfreude?

    He has been tweeting, but 140 characters is inadequate. He did get a dig in at Dennis Miller and Tebow at he same time, though, so there’s that.

  35. 35.

    SarahT

    August 31, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    @virag: best ever TFC song – still not abailable in mp3 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctYYFETItUc

  36. 36.

    handy

    August 31, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdCUpiI1MSA

  37. 37.

    handy

    August 31, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdCUpiI1MSA

  38. 38.

    burnspbesq

    August 31, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    @Mr Stagger Lee:

    what will Skip Bayless do now

    I’d like to vote for “disappear, never to be seen again.”

  39. 39.

    jon

    August 31, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    Tebow has destroyed any chance of a career because he held on to the dream of playing a position that he just can’t play at this level. He could be a decent-enough small Tight End or a Fullback or something, as he does have decent hands and can run and understands offense even if he can’t actually control one.. But he has by all appearances been unwilling to learn anything new. Don’t know if it’s believing in all the hype or believing in the Magic Sky Fairy, but he needs to face reality if he doesn’t want to sell cars or motor homes.

  40. 40.

    handy

    August 31, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    I promise that DP was all FYWP. Delete my account Kos DougJ!

  41. 41.

    different-church-lady

    August 31, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    @PaulW: Nope — I see CFL in his future.

  42. 42.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    @Mr Stagger Lee:

    what will Skip Bayless do now?

    It’s just a wild ass guess, but I bet he’ll find someone new to obsess on. Either obsessional hatred/vilification or obsessional giddy delusion.

  43. 43.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    I see CFL in his future.

    Assistant coach or waterboy?

  44. 44.

    PurpleGirl

    August 31, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    Further in the story about the two kittens saved from the subway tracks: Joe Llota — former MTA chairman and Republican currently seeking to be mayor — says he wouldn’t have stopped trains to try to rescue the kittens.

    Sorry Joe, even though there was little chance I’d vote for you, you definitely lost my vote over this.

    In the wake of Llota’s comment, Democrats have come out saying they’d have stopped the trains. Someone commented that the mayor doesn’t decide these things, the MTA does. And the MTA decided to try to save the kittens.

    Kittens are safe in a shelter getting medical checkups and food, etc. and will be with other kittens their age for socialization.

  45. 45.

    Keith G

    August 31, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    @burnspbesq: I have always been fascinated by the stylistic method of choosing as one’s premise an imagined upcoming negative event.

    In a related note, I bet you will be shown to be wrong in your “imaginings”. Yeah, one can always round up someone who opposes change. Are they all neanderthals?

    I am an OSU alum, but I haven’t had time to get to a place that shows this game (it’s only Buffalo…who?). So, I haven’t heard Beth Mowins do her thing. I will say this, I do find play-by-players with voices in a higher pitch to be distracting, male or female. I could listen to Mary Carillo do play-by-play for any sport all day (assuming adequate knowledge and technique of course). If I had to listen to Terry Bradshaw do play-by-play…::shutters::

  46. 46.

    burnspbesq

    August 31, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    This match may be meaningless in the grand scheme of things, but Crystal Palace and Sunderland are putting on a highly entertaining display.

  47. 47.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    @Corner Stone: And with all that said, I do have to agree with Skip on one thing – Tebow would absolutely win more games in J-ville than Gaebbert will.
    In fact, when Denver was looking to move him my contention was, and still is, that Jacksonville was the only team that made any sense for him to go to.

  48. 48.

    different-church-lady

    August 31, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    @Corner Stone: Holy crap: 197 words and not one of them was a swipe at your fellow commenters.

  49. 49.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    @handy: It’s not like you to disavow a DP. You feeling okay?

  50. 50.

    Betty Cracker

    August 31, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    @Botsplainer: Considering his parents’ floridly crazy fundamentalism, I consider Tebow’s devotion to Christmas Baby Jeebus a sign of being heroically well adjusted.

  51. 51.

    different-church-lady

    August 31, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    @Botsplainer: Am I the only one who didn’t find his act all that annoying? I mean, it’s not his potential fapping that bugged me, it was the people who fapped to him that made me all stabby.

  52. 52.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    @different-church-lady: Now *that’s* the level of tedium I’ve been longing for!

  53. 53.

    different-church-lady

    August 31, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    @Corner Stone: See, I knew there was a reason I liked you, in spite of it all.

  54. 54.

    Botsplainer

    August 31, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    Exhibit A on why I despise him:

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/tim-tebow-released-by-patriots-but-testifies-faith-provides-him-peace-in-whatever-circumstance-103477/

    After the game, Tebow told reporters his faith helped the anxiety he may have otherwise felt about his football future.

    “I’m blessed, because of my faith, that I don’t have to worry about the future because I know who holds my future,” Tebow told reporters. “It’s something I try to live by. It really gives you a lot of peace in whatever circumstance I’m in.”

    Other people don’t need that crutch, you stupid fuck. They deal with disappointment and failure with discretion, discernment, reflection and character that isn’t dependent on celebrity or status within the deliberately pig ignorant confines of American evangelicalism.

  55. 55.

    NotMax

    August 31, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    @different-church-lady

    Or Chaplain of the House of Representatives.

  56. 56.

    Mnemosyne

    August 31, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    For the cat lovers, Maru got a kitten. No videos yet that I could see, but the photos look like everything is going very well and Maru is getting his due as Senior Cat.

  57. 57.

    max

    August 31, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    Statement on Syria by the President supposedly starting now. Video here.

    On a Saturday afternoon. Must be bad.

    max
    [‘Now I get to watch flags blow around.’]

  58. 58.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    @NotMax: Actually, if he doesn’t do something affiliated purely with religion, I could very easily see him becoming a very successful politician in FL.

  59. 59.

    Botsplainer

    August 31, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    Am I the only one who didn’t find his act all that annoying? I mean, it’s not his potential fapping that bugged me, it was the people who fapped to him that made me all stabby.

    Nah, his whole shtick that leads to people fapping to him is part of the grand package that makes me long to be the war crime committing commandant of one of Obama’s FEMA re-education camps.

  60. 60.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 31, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Considering his parents’ floridly crazy fundamentalism

    are you giving that adverb a regional twist?

  61. 61.

    taylormattd

    August 31, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    Go Dawgs!

  62. 62.

    Betty Cracker

    August 31, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    @different-church-lady: Agree that it was the hallelujah chorus that is/was the major irritant rather than Tebow himself. I find all god-bothering annoying, but Tebow’s wasn’t any worse than, say, Kurt Warner, Deon Sanders or any other deluded bible-humper.

  63. 63.

    NotMax

    August 31, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    @Mnemosyne

    Not meant to be a put-down or a dig, but what did cat people do before the internet?

    Were there samizdat-like (cattusdat?) portfolios of photos passed hand to hand or distributed via a network of faxes?

  64. 64.

    handy

    August 31, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    I see Drudge is in fine form today. He just declared Putin the leader of the free world.

  65. 65.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 31, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    @different-church-lady: it was the people who fapped to him that made me all stabby.

    I agree the way his worhsippers talk about him is worse than anything he says. He seems to have toned it down some since leaving college, or at least since that (admittedly pretty neutral) PSA he did with his mom. I wonder if someone in Broncos organization had a word with him, or when they gave him that monk’s tonsure (blessed be whoever thought of that, and his descendants for many generations) tipped him off that he was overdoing it.

  66. 66.

    Thlayli

    August 31, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    Eers are losing at the half. Wouldn’t want to be in the Cole house right now.

  67. 67.

    different-church-lady

    August 31, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    @NotMax: Cat posters. Duh.

  68. 68.

    Mnemosyne

    August 31, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    @NotMax:

    Oh, please, like dog people are any better. At least we don’t dress our animals up.

    But, yes, we would take still pictures and pass them around. Really crazy cat ladies would have whole albums.

  69. 69.

    different-church-lady

    August 31, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    @max: At least it’s the Rose Garden and not the Oval Office.

  70. 70.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 31, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    @different-church-lady: I’ll take what I can get

    Do not expect an announcement of military intervention, the White House tells TPM.

  71. 71.

    NotMax

    August 31, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    @Mnemosyne

    Thank you for not blowing it off and responding with a measure of candor.

    It’s a phenomenon totally alien to my experience, and was honestly curious.

  72. 72.

    Hunter Gathers

    August 31, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Warner and Sanders never cut a slut-shaming, anti-choice commercial with their Mommy that aired during the Super Bowl.

  73. 73.

    different-church-lady

    August 31, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Dude is running late — wonder if he’s working a three-team deal.

  74. 74.

    NotMax

    August 31, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    @different-church-lady

    He had to stop to pray in the secret mosque in the White House basement.

    /wingnut

  75. 75.

    Keith G

    August 31, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    The Prez speaks.

  76. 76.

    burnspbesq

    August 31, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Obama puts Congress in the game. Good.

  77. 77.

    shelly

    August 31, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    They said the Prez was gonna speak at 1:15, which translates to at least 2:00.

  78. 78.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    I missed the inro. Did Obama say we “should” use military action?

  79. 79.

    Botsplainer

    August 31, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    @NotMax:

    He had to stop to pray in the secret mosque in the White House basement.

    And is too weak to order a strike which is necessary and which Reagan would do, but will be the reason why he should be impeached.

  80. 80.

    raven

    August 31, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    Obama will seek authorization from congress.

  81. 81.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    Oooooo…Congress!

  82. 82.

    Betty Cracker

    August 31, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    @burnspbesq: Excellent.

  83. 83.

    different-church-lady

    August 31, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    Shorter Prez: don’t make me count to ten…

  84. 84.

    Mnemosyne

    August 31, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Still keeping my fingers crossed that Assad has agreed to let the UN take control of his chemical weapons, but that’s a long shot.

  85. 85.

    raven

    August 31, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    @Corner Stone: Would.

  86. 86.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    FY Congress! Eat hot shit and enjoy it you whiny beaches!
    /President Obama

  87. 87.

    different-church-lady

    August 31, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    Will seek authorization from congress.

  88. 88.

    Dee Loralei

    August 31, 2013 at 1:55 pm

    Yea, Congress needs to own this too. I’m glad he’s getting them to vote on it.

  89. 89.

    Botsplainer

    August 31, 2013 at 1:55 pm

    Oops. He dumped it on Congress.

    Rand Paul is shitting his pants. So is my Teatard, as are those of the progressive caucus.

  90. 90.

    raven

    August 31, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    Ok all you asshole bitching about him waving his dick and seeking another Nobel?

  91. 91.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 31, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    @burnspbesq: Yup. I’m not given to optimism, but if this turns around a thirty year trend, some could has come of this mess.

  92. 92.

    Mnemosyne

    August 31, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    Well, it’s better than an announcement that bombing starts in five minutes. I’ll be fascinated to see how it goes in the House.

  93. 93.

    Dee Loralei

    August 31, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    I think he’s making a pretty strong case for international norms being enforced.

  94. 94.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    *Drops the mic*

  95. 95.

    J.D. Rhoades

    August 31, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    I’m relieved that the President is seeking authorization from Congress for a strike on Syria. After Libya, I was worried. Guess he went back and re- read Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution.

  96. 96.

    Keith G

    August 31, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    @raven: I am more interested in those who were crying that we should do nothing in the face of this “atrocity”. And I am glad that Obama is not listening to them.

  97. 97.

    Person of Choler

    August 31, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    I, for one, am glad that Our President has forgotten that Lightworker and Peace Prize crap and is now hot for sending drones and lobbing cruise missiles to kill Brown People.

    Congratulations to Obama and his neo-neocon followers.

  98. 98.

    Thlayli

    August 31, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    We missed a Sunderland goal while Obummer was talking. That’s grounds for impeachment.

  99. 99.

    different-church-lady

    August 31, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    @J.D. Rhoades: Libya was a NATO mission.

  100. 100.

    raven

    August 31, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    @Keith G: Fuck all of em.

  101. 101.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    I hope Congress stays out its full recess and they all get a good fucking earful from their constituents.
    I doubt they will hold any townhalls but that would be such fun to see.

  102. 102.

    shelly

    August 31, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    Love how even thought they were probably told he wouldn’t be taking questions, the reporters still shout out after him as he walks away.

  103. 103.

    NotMax

    August 31, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    @Mnemosyne

    I’ll be fascinated to see how it goes in the House.

    Certain elements will almost certainly call for all costs of any action to be offset by cuts in ACA funding.

    Bank on it.

  104. 104.

    gene108

    August 31, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    Minor scheduling dilemma. On 9/12/2013 for whatever reason several things I want to do have events scheduled all at the same time. I went to the local OfA group and they have an Obamacare planning event on 9/12/2013.

    There’s an on-line social group I’ve gone to a few events at that’s having something going on Thursday night. I’m half thinking the lady organizing it might be interested in me.

    There’s a Toastmasters club meeting, but they meet regularly, so I’m going to blow that off.

    There’s a PKD Foundation webinar about clinical trials for PKD. I can watch it later once they get it up on their website, but I won’t be able to get any questions in if I’m not on the live webinar event.

    What to do?

  105. 105.

    Davis X. Machina

    August 31, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    Every congresscritter secretly dreams of being able to vote for and against the same piece of legislation…without being called for waffling or flip-flopping.

    This should be interesting.

  106. 106.

    NotMax

    August 31, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    @gene108

    Ronco Clone-O-Matic.

  107. 107.

    Linnaeus

    August 31, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    Glad Congress is being brought into this, but I’m still not convinced it’s a good idea. Even if Congress gives approval.

  108. 108.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    @NotMax: Ted Cruz has already specifically said that very thing.
    “Sen. Ted Cruz on Wednesday tied Obamacare and Syria together, saying the two issues are linked “by an arrogance of this administration.”

  109. 109.

    gogiggs

    August 31, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    A Catholic Education and Bandwagonesque are great, but I like the later stuff just as well. I probably listen to Songs From Northern Britain the most of any of their stuff.

  110. 110.

    raven

    August 31, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): O Canada. . .

  111. 111.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 31, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    @Linnaeus: I wonder if slowing it all down, discussing the facts of it, amplifying the debate won’t make it harder for Russia to defend it. That said, does anyone have any leverage with Russia? Seems to me Russia has a pretty strong hand.

  112. 112.

    Keith G

    August 31, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    @Mnemosyne: It will pass. I imagine his earlier conversations with leadership was part “testing the climate”. I doubt he would have given this exact speech without the notion that a vote to confront a war crimes atrocity would be successful – at least I hope not.

  113. 113.

    raven

    August 31, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    @Keith G: Ha, he’s just put the Jedi mind trick on their asses know what a bunch of morons they are.

  114. 114.

    lol

    August 31, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Cruz is also in the Obama-Bad-for-wanting-to-intervene-and-Obama-Bad-for-not-intervening-earlier camp.

  115. 115.

    Keith G

    August 31, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    @Corner Stone: I love our junior Senator. I think that as history plays out, he will shorten the time it takes Texas to turn purple by at least half a decade. It’s like seeing a team you hate trade for Tim Tebow.

  116. 116.

    raven

    August 31, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    Newt is agin it! But thinks it will pass.

  117. 117.

    Steeplejack

    August 31, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again):

    I watched a couple of games this morning, and the feeds were crystal clear (and HD!) on Cox Cable.

  118. 118.

    Yatsuno

    August 31, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: The only real leverage anyone has on Russia right now is Sochi. That is Putin’s showpiece and thanks to the anti-gay laws is already a bit bruised. I’m not suggesting a boycott over Syria, but there are other ways to bring pressure to bear.

  119. 119.

    Baud

    August 31, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    So I guess there will now be bipartisan support in Congress for shutting down the government ASAP.

  120. 120.

    PurpleGirl

    August 31, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    @NotMax: I thought Acme made the Clone-A-Matic.

  121. 121.

    The Dangerman

    August 31, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    I will have to amend my prediction from yesterday a little bit:

    (1) Nothing will happen (because Congress won’t authorize it).

    (2) The Republicans will bitch up a storm about a weak President (after not authorizing the action; yes, it’ll be completely contradictory positions, but when has that ever stopped them previously).

    Yes, (2) is still like shooting really big fish in a really, really tiny barrel.

  122. 122.

    Person of Choler

    August 31, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    @gene108: Skip those and organize an anti war protest. Could draw a crowd, those things used to be quite popular.

  123. 123.

    gene108

    August 31, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    In the It Is a Small World file, I got my eyes checked Tuesday in my neck of the woods in Southern New Jersey.

    The optometrist, who worked that evening is relatively new to the practice.

    She started with the usual small talk, “are you from New Jersey”

    Me: “No, I moved here after college”

    Her: What college did you go to?

    Me: NC…North Carolina State University…in Raleigh…(after giving me a strange look, I figure she’s never heard of it and figures I went to Chapell Hell)…

    Her: Nooooo Waaaaay, I’m from Raleigh and I went to NCSU

    Me: Your from Raleigh, I finished elementary school to high school in Raleigh, what high school did you go to?

    Her: Enloe

    Me: Wow, same here, though I probably graduated a few years before you (so we couldn’t do a I know ‘x’, do you know ‘x’)

    Turns out she went to eye-doctor school in Philly and her and her hubby settled in Philly for now. She works at a couple of practices in NJ.

    I did not expect that from my optometrist, when I went to get my eyes checked.

  124. 124.

    Keith G

    August 31, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    @Baud: No the Authorization vote will be first. A chance for a bit of bipartisan bridge building. Asad has done Barak a favor.

    Edit:
    @The Dangerman: You need to amend your prediction from yesterday a bit more than that.

  125. 125.

    Howard Beale IV

    August 31, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    Grab yer popcorn, folks.

    Now will see who’s zooming who over the course of the next 4 years.

  126. 126.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 31, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    @Yatsuno: In a perfect world they would cancel the G20, but I guess that’s a bridge too far for many reasons. And Sochi, too

  127. 127.

    Dee Loralei

    August 31, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    ‘Eers just tied it up, all is well in the Cole household.

  128. 128.

    nastybrutishntall

    August 31, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    @virag: every picture that I paint…damn, that song. but alcoholiday was a great song from bandwagonesque. also this song, which was an ep single, I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_XYLJ7xaO8

  129. 129.

    Felonius Monk

    August 31, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    @Botsplainer:

    we’re convinced that he beats off into a sock over gay German Schiesse porn.

    That statement will be indelibly etched into the Commenter’s Hall of Fame!

  130. 130.

    Baud

    August 31, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    @Keith G:

    I was joking about our congresscriters desire to avoid making hard decisions at all costs.

  131. 131.

    raven

    August 31, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    @Dee Loralei: Maybe he’s thinking up more cute little shit about the Nobel Prize?

  132. 132.

    The Dangerman

    August 31, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    @Keith G:

    @The Dangerman: You need to amend your prediction from yesterday a bit more than that.

    Was that the one where I said Buffalo would scare Ohio State? I plead drunkenness.

    ETA: Just peaked at the score – 30 to 20 is far closer than I ever expected (and haven’t started drinking yet).

  133. 133.

    Dolly Llama

    August 31, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    @Dee Loralei: To quote Steely Dan:

    “I said whoa, no/William & Mary won’t do now …”

  134. 134.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    August 31, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    @raven:

    Curling?

    @Steeplejack:

    I’m talking about the satellite feeds, either from the stadium or from the production center in the UK. These last two weeks, the featured (NBC) games have been glitchy as all fucking hell. Last week, the booth production/direction was pretty bad, too.

    I’m not very happy with NBC’s coverage. To be clear, I mean the OTA entity. No pre-game show- directly from kids programming to kickoff…And they missed the kickoff last week. Spotty direction and production. They’re blowing a golden opportunity.

  135. 135.

    raven

    August 31, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): That’s where Tebow is headed.

  136. 136.

    Dee Loralei

    August 31, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    @raven: LOL or an apology. But perhaps he’s trying to figure out how to enjoy the football without the beers. Or maybe he’s cooking and playing with Steve and the girls. Who knows what goes on in our esteemed hosts mind.

  137. 137.

    the Conster

    August 31, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    @Botsplainer:

    My gay BFF is determined to live long enough to see Tebow and Jeeter both come out.

  138. 138.

    Keith G

    August 31, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    @The Dangerman: That one too, though I never saw it.

  139. 139.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    August 31, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    @raven:

    Or some other job involving a broom.

  140. 140.

    Dee Loralei

    August 31, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    @Dolly Llama: Hahahah now that’s a perfect earworm for John.

  141. 141.

    different-church-lady

    August 31, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): Me, I’m really looking forward to tomorrow, so I can find out what new crap the guys in the graphics truck have added to the screen to make the game even more unwatchable.

  142. 142.

    raven

    August 31, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    @Dee Loralei: It took me a season or 2 to get back into football and music without alcohol. You find out really quickly if you are serious about quitting when you are in a tailgate situation or seeing Tom Petty sober. After a while you understand that it’s better but no one wants to hear that, I didn’t.

  143. 143.

    The Dangerman

    August 31, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    @Keith G:

    @The Dangerman: That one too, though I never saw it.

    Shit, don’t tell me I was THAT hammered and imagined it…

    …in the immortal words of whoever said it first, “hair of the dog”.

  144. 144.

    raven

    August 31, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Go Illini! You won’t hear that much this year but a 100 run back is nice even against the Saluki’s!

  145. 145.

    Keith G

    August 31, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    I said this yesterday, but I shall repeat. the Chromecast is the best $35 tech expenditure going. I am reviewing game highlights flawlessly.

  146. 146.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 31, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    EvenTheLiberalMSNBC anchor Cavuto-asks if a congressional vote on military action sets a “dangerous precedent”.

    What the fucking fuck.

  147. 147.

    raven

    August 31, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Cavuto isn’t an MSNBC anchor.

  148. 148.

    Felonius Monk

    August 31, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Oooooo…Congress!

    Oh, really? Do we still have one of those? Didn’t they all go AWOL a few years back?

  149. 149.

    Dee Loralei

    August 31, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    @raven: Yea. I get that it’s hard, especially in social situations. I have faith in the old stubborn bastahd, ya know?

  150. 150.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 31, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    @raven: I was referring to the tone of the question, i.e. not really a question

  151. 151.

    raven

    August 31, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    @Dee Loralei: I’ve been around too long. I hope for the best and expect the worst in all cases.

  152. 152.

    Botsplainer

    August 31, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    @the Conster:

    My gay BFF is determined to live long enough to see Tebow and Jeeter both come out.

    Tebow, yeah. Jeter, no way, if you see the pics of his girl.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=derek+jeter+girlfriend&safe=off&client=safari&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=xDgiUpySLpSqsQSWqYD4Cw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAA&biw=1024&bih=672

  153. 153.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    August 31, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    I was concerned they’d go the route Fox went with the NHL- glowing pucks and robots. NBC’s graphics haven’t been intrusive, though.

  154. 154.

    raven

    August 31, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Literally?

  155. 155.

    Dee Loralei

    August 31, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    @raven: he meant the “Cavuto mark”, stating something kinda outrageous and adding a question mark at the end. So you can say,” I didn’t say that, I was just asking a question.” Something like ” African Americans, the real racists?

  156. 156.

    The Dangerman

    August 31, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    In the interest of making predictions prior to drinking and games, the vote will be close, but it will go down; the Right won’t vote to authorize Obama to take a piss (“the President should just man up and hold it and can we impeach him if he takes the wizz?”) and the Left is having none of this thing.

    /pops the top on the first one

  157. 157.

    askew

    August 31, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    So, Obama is asking for Congressional approval? He really played the media and Congress for fools here. The left and right pundits have been calling Obama a dictator, etc. because he is jumping into war without approval. Then he turns around and asks for approval. I won’t hold my breath waiting for the pundits and bloggers to admit they were wrong.

    And Reid looks like he is going to make a smart move and call back Senate from recess so they can vote while the do-nothing House is still on recess. Smart move. Shows a contrast between Democratic leadership and Republican leadership.

    I also wonder if the wait until 9/9 or so will allow more diplomatic measures to happen before we strike.

  158. 158.

    bemused

    August 31, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    Speaking of excessiveness in religious believers, earlier this month I read some interesting comments in the Telegraph I think from the former Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams. He said religious believers who say they are a persecuted minority should grow up, that “not being taking seriously” or “being made fun of” shouldn’t be confused with systematic brutality, real persecution.

    “Persecution is not being made to feel mildly uncomfortable”.

    This could also be said of whities who are up in arms for being called on their racism.

  159. 159.

    the Conster

    August 31, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    @Botsplainer:

    All beards. My gay friend has it on some kind of gay coconut telegraph authority.

  160. 160.

    gene108

    August 31, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    Saw Kick Ass 2. It was O.K. I really had to check my brain out though. The suspension of disbelief required to enjoy it was really hard. I’m not talking about Mindy on the roof of the van. That’s par for the course in Hollywood.

    It’s the roving street gangs in lower Manhattan making walking around dressed oddly dangerous that’s hard to digest, plus the cookie cutter – relatively new construction looking – houses in what could only be some sort of West Coast interpretation of what Queens or Brooklyn look like.

    I mean it’s one thing to have the Friends cast or Seinfeld cast living in housing that seems well beyond their means in NYC, because that seems relatively common device for T.V. going back a good many years but they really wanted to treat NYC like it was in the 1970’s, with crime soaring and subways painted with graffiti.

    The subplot of growing up with a secret identity and what it meant to be a super hero should’ve been more the focus of the film.

    All in all not bad for a movie that requires you to check out and just giggle at the absurdity.

    The let down was that Kick Ass had such a “holy shit, they did that!” factor from the opening of father-daughter bonding till the very end, with the rocket launcher, it’s just so hard to top it. I’m glad they didn’t try too hard in that regard, but they had a really good opportunity to go the other way, with regards to friendship, normalcy, and other dramatic type of issues that they could’ve done something very different with the superhero / comic book movie.

  161. 161.

    Botsplainer

    August 31, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    EvenTheLiberalMSNBC anchor Cavuto-asks if a congressional vote on military action sets a “dangerous precedent”.

    A strong president would have demonstrated leadership by going it alone without Congress arglebargle.

  162. 162.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    August 31, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    @raven:

    …the Saluki’s…

    “Saluki” is tied for my favorite Chicagoese-pronounced word. The other is “Belcher”, as in former MLB- and Saluki- pitcher, Tim Belcher. If there is nothing else I remember from time spent in Union Station, there is always that one overheard conversation.

  163. 163.

    different-church-lady

    August 31, 2013 at 2:50 pm

    @bemused:

    This could also be said of whities who are up in arms for being called on their racism.

    ‘Course, I’m all in favor of them being made to feel something more than “mildly uncomfortable”.

  164. 164.

    raven

    August 31, 2013 at 2:50 pm

    @Dee Loralei: Hey, I’ve got one game online, two on the tube and trying to keep up wit da nuance ain’t my strength anyways!

  165. 165.

    raven

    August 31, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): God we used to party in Carbondale. Whew.

  166. 166.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    @Felonius Monk:

    Didn’t they all go AWOL a few years back?

    They’re still around, just all queuing up in the green rooms of Morning Joe or Fox and Friends all the time.
    No time for a vote or oversight, ya see, we’re too busy doing constituent service by Congressplainin’ it all to the little people!

  167. 167.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    @Dee Loralei:

    ‘Eers just tied it up, all is well in the Cole household.

    I’m sorry, but when they “tie it up” against W&M and it’s halfway through the 4th Q, then I can categorically tell you with no doubt that “all is *not* well” wherever Cole is.

  168. 168.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    @Keith G: He’s like a bright, shining star. Leaving a trail of fading light and detritus wherever he goes.
    He’ll make his run at the WH, fail spectacularly, and then keep trying to feed red meat to a shrinking base in TX.

  169. 169.

    Keith G

    August 31, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    @askew: Sorry dude, stop the revisionism. If Cameron had won, the missiles would be being armed as we speak. This needs to be done sooner rather than later and the President knows it. He is making applesauce out of squishy apples.

    @The Dangerman:Just remember the second level selling point.: A vote against the use of very limited force is a vote for Vlad Putin.

  170. 170.

    Yatsuno

    August 31, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    @the Conster: Jeter’s sexuality is the worst-kept secret in NYC. But he’ll never admit it until he retires. If even then.

  171. 171.

    MomSense

    August 31, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    Obama = worst dictator ever.

  172. 172.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    @raven: I’ll repeat for the eleventy-eth time, Jacksonville should pick Tebow up.
    It’s a win-win. He’d win them games and put butts in the seats.

  173. 173.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 31, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    @MomSense: It’s a question of what he’s worst at, Dictatoring or soshulisming.

  174. 174.

    The Dangerman

    August 31, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    @Keith G:

    This needs to be done sooner rather than later and the President knows it. He is making applesauce out of squishy apples.

    Pretty much this; the President punted without punting and got some CongressCreeps to shit their pants this morning. Wins all around.

  175. 175.

    raven

    August 31, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    @Corner Stone: Who cares? I sold my tix for the Ga-Fla game, they are in the upper deck sections that they tarp for NFL games. I was stunned how much someone in Delaware paid. Fucking Corso picked the dogs and we’re 0-3 when he does.

  176. 176.

    raven

    August 31, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    @The Dangerman: Not for the whiny emo-prog firebaggers.

  177. 177.

    Linnaeus

    August 31, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I think slowing it down helps far more than it hurts. Gives Assad time to think (which may not amount to much) and allows for more time to deal with Russia & China. May not matter, but it’s worth trying.

  178. 178.

    The Dangerman

    August 31, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    @Yatsuno:

    Jeter’s sexuality is the worst-kept secret in NYC.

    He always has some hot Chick on his arm; damn, what a few dollars can do for a guy.

  179. 179.

    the Conster

    August 31, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    @Yatsuno:

    My friend says it’s a mother thing with him, so maybe after she’s gone. I like to imagine Tebow and Jeter coming out together, like, as a couple. Do you think ESPN could survive the direct hit?

  180. 180.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    @The Dangerman:

    the vote will be close, but it will go down; the Right won’t vote to authorize Obama to take a piss

    IMO, I actually don’t think this is a hard call for the right wing crowd. Their Tea Party bloc is against it (largely), and this way they can say NO! to Obama and still get to call him weak, ineffectual, feckless, timid, arrogant, clueless, adrift, and so on and so forth. Their MIC and neocon component will be unhappy but not too unhappy since Obama is doing his best to say he wants a very, extremely constrained action. Not even bllod and guts or profit there for the MIC crowd to get too up about.
    And if Congress says NO! and he authorizes something anyway?
    SHITBALLS!! To the Impeachment Walls citizens!

  181. 181.

    Keith G

    August 31, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    @Corner Stone: Nope

  182. 182.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    @raven: I actually like watching him play, even though I think he’s about as far from an NFL QB as you can get and still be able to walk on two feet for longer than a few yards at a time.
    He’s entertaining, at the very least.

  183. 183.

    gene108

    August 31, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    @Yatsuno:

    Maybe Jeter’s the baseball George Clooney?

    Being a single, nearly middle-aged man, without a significant other, I find the speculation that people my age, like Jeter, are somehow gay to be unnerving.

    When did the folks get to decide all single men over 35 are gay? Is this part of the homosexual agenda, I’ve been warned about?

    The gays can’t turn us all gay, so they just spread rumors that so-so is gay or something. I don’t know.

    Anyway, when’s Clooney coming out of the closet? Or does he get a pass from the rumor mongering?

  184. 184.

    raven

    August 31, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    @Corner Stone: He’s a fucking Gator, he sucks donkey balls.

  185. 185.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    @Linnaeus:

    Gives Assad time to think

    Do you think the prospect of being hung from a rampart will become somehow more appealing over the next two weeks?

  186. 186.

    Redshift

    August 31, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    I went to our local McAuliffe rally & canvass this morning, and I have to say, I was pretty pleased with McAuliffe’s speech (more than I expected to be.) He came out firmly against the SOLs (our version of state standardized tests) and any state money going to private schools, among other things. Tom Periello was there, and his speech was fun, too.

    I also took a couple of photos in my ongoing series of “things you won’t see at a Republican rally.” In this case, it was the collection of speakers and candidates up front — Charnielle Herring, our female African-American state party chair, Cesar del Aguila, our Latino county party chair, and a collection of other candidates, local officials, and party officials, male and female. An Asian state delegate and another Asian delegate candidate were supposed to be there, but didn’t make it. You’d be forgiven for thinking that it was deliberate, but in fact, if you just invite all the Democrats in my local area, that’s who you get.

  187. 187.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    @raven: Indeed. Indeed.

  188. 188.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    @Keith G: Wow.

  189. 189.

    Botsplainer

    August 31, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    @The Dangerman:

    Pretty much this; the President punted without punting and got some CongressCreeps to shit their pants this morning. Wins all around.

    The country will get to see their Teatards in action. Every stupid utterance, every bit of reflexive contrarianism, every bit of them not giving a shit about the victims just to score points with the Teatard base. Most of the manic progressives will fold early, leaving that shitbag Grayson to twist in the wind with the Teatards.

    This could become the biggest factor in swinging the House. Cruz and Paul are going to destroy their own upward mobility on the Senate side, the rest of those GOPers being smart enough to remain pretty quiet.

  190. 190.

    Keith G

    August 31, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    @gene108: I blame the National Enquirer. They’re saying Boehner is gay-dating Mitch McConnell – Which makes sense since once McConnell is on his back, he doesn’t get back up.

  191. 191.

    MaryJane

    August 31, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    @askew:

    And Reid looks like he is going to make a smart move and call back Senate from recess so they can vote while the do-nothing House is still on recess. Smart move. Shows a contrast between Democratic leadership and Republican leadership.

    Which will be lost on 99% of Repubs and 50% of Dems.

  192. 192.

    the Conster

    August 31, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    @gene108:

    Maybe Jeter’s just gay and on the down low. Hence all the rumors.

  193. 193.

    Botsplainer

    August 31, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    @raven:

    Fucking Corso picked the dogs and we’re 0-3 when he does.

    Corso is never right. It is always best to assume that from the start.

  194. 194.

    Mnemosyne

    August 31, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    @gene108:

    I think the question you need to answer for yourself is, are you interested in the lady who might be interested in you? If so, I would go to her social function. If not, go to the OFA event since it’s a good excuse.

  195. 195.

    Mnemosyne

    August 31, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    Also, one day I will be rich enough to buy my furniture pre-assembled and won’t have to deal with the giant pain in the ass that is unpacking a box only to discover that one vital part is broken and the entire 50-pound package has to be packed back up and returned to the store. Fuck.

    (In this particular case, it’s from World Market, which usually has better quality control than this.)

  196. 196.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    August 31, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    @raven: For me, it’ll be 3 years in a couple of weeks. I’ve not been back to a game and tailgating yet, though the wife wants to go to a game this year(probably UW). However, I’ve been in social situations where lots of drinkin’ was going on, so I’ll be alright.

  197. 197.

    raven

    August 31, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Yea, that’s a good amount of time for sure.

  198. 198.

    Yatsuno

    August 31, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    @gene108: Clooney has been married twice. He has publicly stated he is not suited for the institution, and I say more power to him. The speculation on Jeter is based on more than his stubborn bachelorhood.]

    EDIT: It’s also their damn business and none of mine. Though I’ve confessed before I’d do Tebow. I lurves me some innocent boys. They tend to…not be.

  199. 199.

    Hal

    August 31, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    @gene108:

    When did the folks get to decide all single men over 35 are gay?

    I’m in that mid to late 30’s group and have noticed a very large portion of people I know either back from high school or that I have met over time are not only not married, but they have never been married. No kids.

    I wonder if this is just part of those falling marriage statistics and greater independence for Women who might also feel far less pressure to be married by a certain age? Also, I’m sure a certain number are gay. People my age who are gay grew up at a time when things like gay marriage were a dream, and things have changed so fast, I think for some of us being closeted at work, or at home, was not uncommon, and probably to some extent still is not. I actually like the speculation because in some weird way it’s indicative a greater acceptance and awareness, and that can’t be a bad thing…unless someone tries to blackmail you.

  200. 200.

    Keith G

    August 31, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    @Corner Stone: Even hating the Prez will not counter (for most) the evidence and the story (with horrible visuals no less) describing what happened and happened again and again. Then there is the Putin angle, and then there is the Iran angle and even the North Korea complication.

    I think the speech was an hour late as the Obama team and others were finding out what they needed to know (down to the wire) to be as certain as they could be that this speech was not going to cause a later problem – as some of his earlier comments have done. Part of it is/was working out who are the sure votes so that others can have their chance to loudly vote “no” to please the yokels.

  201. 201.

    Mnemosyne

    August 31, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    @Yatsuno:

    Heck, Jeter could be bi and sleeping with both girlfriends and boyfriends. Not like he would be the first one.

  202. 202.

    Amir Khalid

    August 31, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    @gene108:
    I didn’t find it all that hard to suspend my disbelief for Kick-Ass 2. No harder than for the original Kick-Ass. How much plausibility were you expecting from a comic-book movie, anyway?

    This movie was indeed all about trying to find the balance between superhero and normal life, living with the cost that one thing exacts from the other, especially for Dave and Mindy. The novelty of the situation couldn’t be there the second time around; but what we did get seemed to me a pretty satisfying continuation of the story and not just a rehash.

  203. 203.

    bemused

    August 31, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    I concur.

  204. 204.

    PaulW

    August 31, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    @mellowjohn:

    and where is tbogg when you want a nice big helping of schadenfreude?

    (somewhere in the Antarctic wilderness)

    (shouted as from a long distance) damn you bastards, I just want to LIVE!

  205. 205.

    Yatsuno

    August 31, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I cannot discount this possibility either.

  206. 206.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    @Keith G: While I’m willing to be persuaded by the argument that Obama would never have said these things unless he felt solid about the outcome, I believe the rest of your contention falls flat.
    The right does not give one shit about gassed babies in Syria. Or babies anywhere else outside the womb, not even three blocks away from them. You could show them war pr0n and ask them to stand up so you could check for their tiny little boners poking into their zippers.
    Putin will always be Putin and they love a good Russky to hate on. The belief that we would give Obama the Go sign to somehow humiliate or infuriate Putin just doesn’t register far enough up the scale for me.
    IMO, I feel you are drastically overweighting actions you hope might be taken and conflating them with a rationale to support them.
    I’ll just say that, IMO, the right wants nothing more than to humiliate Obama. There will be every underhanded damn dirty political trick in the book attached to any vote. It will give the R’s cover to vote however they need to to not get primaried while at the same time give them plenty of soundbites.
    We’re about to see the mother of all lame-duck arguments coming to peak. He’s a lame-duck on the economy and national concerns and now he’ll be a lame-duck on foreign policy issues as well.
    That will be the effort they want to get stamped into the MSM’s brain.

  207. 207.

    PaulW

    August 31, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    @The Dangerman:

    It’s part of Obama’s long-game, although it gets frustrating. He plays it out while his critics go overboard, then he sets up a position where those critics either have to eat their words or pull a 180 to stay relevant. It’s why Andrew Sullivan’s hagiography of Obama is going to be titled “Meep-Meep”.

  208. 208.

    Linnaeus

    August 31, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Do you think the prospect of being hung from a rampart will become somehow more appealing over the next two weeks?

    No, I don’t. But that need not be the outcome, either.

  209. 209.

    Hal

    August 31, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    All I know is many people really need to turn in their psychic cards, especially from the media who were all but assuring us we would be in full out war with Syria by labor day.

  210. 210.

    Dolly Llama

    August 31, 2013 at 3:46 pm

    @raven: Law of averages, brother. Best news I’ve heard all day. We will win this son of a bitch.

  211. 211.

    gene108

    August 31, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    Have you ever left a movie and felt satisfied with the ending, while others you left feeling like you wanted more? I think the latter category can be good movies, but Kick Ass 2 left me feeling like the could’ve done more with the real-life / costume life balance. EDIT: I thought it was a good movie and generally enjoyed it.

    Also, my brother has been living in NYC for close to 20 years. I’ve been there quite often, so I have a hard time thinking about NYC as a crime ridden town, in need of superheroes. NYC had problems with crime in the 1970’s and 1980’s, but now it’s one of the safest big cities in the U.S. A family friend of ours lived in Queens in the 1980’s.

    The FBI, U.S. attorneys* and police really cracked down hard on the mafia in the late 1980’s and 1990’s, across the U.S. I’m sure the mob still exists, but I don’t think they have the sort of clout they once had.

    If the movie was set in a fake city, instead of trying to integrate a fictional premise in a real city, I’d be more willing to let go of my disbelief that the city this movie was set in needs super heroes. It’s just hard to let it go, when I was there last weekend and will be going there on Monday for a co-worker’s son’s wedding.

    *Rudy Gulliani made his name as the lead U.S. Attorney prosecuting mobsters in the late 1980’s and 1990’s, as well as looking at potential malfeasance on Wall Street.

    @Hal:

    I wonder if this is just part of those falling marriage statistics and greater independence for Women who might also feel far less pressure to be married by a certain age? Also, I’m sure a certain number are gay.

    What gets me is the assumption that everyone is equipped with a functioning gaydar, because I think the average gaydar people have installed tends to register too many false positives.

    Why do I care?

    Because I don’t want to be judged for being something I’m not and the what seems to be the conventional wisdom that single men beyond a certain age are by default gay gets me lumped into a group I do not belong to.

    @Yatsuno:

    Clooney has been married twice. He has publicly stated he is not suited for the institution

    Marcus Bachmann’s married with kids and people assume he’s gay, when his wife was running for President.

    I’m not sure how gaydar works, but I think fewer people actually have it than is evident by the level of speculation about who is and who is not gay.

    I’ve had serious problems with depression, which has made getting into relationships impossible for me.

  212. 212.

    Hal

    August 31, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    @Yatsuno:

    Clooney has been married twice. He has publicly stated he is not suited for the institution, and I say more power to him.

    Why would Clooney want to get married? He’s loaded, never short on female attention, and hangs out in Villa in Italy when he isn’t acting. He also has one of those acting careers where he gets big bucks, and acclaim and awards. Why ruin it by getting married?

  213. 213.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    @Hal:

    especially from the media who were all but assuring us we would be in full out war with Syria by labor day.

    They were hopeful.

  214. 214.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    @Linnaeus: He’s either dead or he’s winners. In a world of shades, this is a black and white outcome for him. He’s not going anywhere voluntarily. Either he’s dead or taking pics of his enemies heads on pikes.

  215. 215.

    Linnaeus

    August 31, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    You may be right. I guess my point is that slowing things down is a wiser course of action, IMHO.

  216. 216.

    Corner Stone

    August 31, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    @Linnaeus: I would agree that the potential for better outcomes is served by slowing things down.
    So I don’t think we disagree on your point, just stating IMO Assad has no choice but to continue. Will he do it more wisely? I’m not sure he can.

  217. 217.

    rikyrah

    August 31, 2013 at 5:04 pm

    @gene108:

    Maybe Jeter’s the baseball George Clooney?

    Jeter is good looking, rich, lives in NYC, and has access to not only the usual bevvy of good looking women that a rich man can have, but also actual models.

    why would he get married?

    seriously?

    while he’s still playing?

    he can have a Ho in every city..

    why would any professional athlete get married until their careers were over?

  218. 218.

    Jamey

    August 31, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    @virag: bka, “I was into them before they went mainstream.” IMO, “13” is among the greatest rock-and-roll albums ever made.

  219. 219.

    Ben Cisco

    August 31, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    FSM just put in an appearance at the Alabama – Virginia Tech game.

    Bless his noodly appendages.

  220. 220.

    sneezy

    August 31, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    @PaulW:

    … teams are not patient enough to give [Tebow] time to fix his throwing mechanics

    He’s been out of college for nearly four years. How much time does he need?

    [He should] give it a few years before showing if he’s got his throwing and accuracy improved.

    He’s 26 years old. He hasn’t got “a few years.”

  221. 221.

    Tom

    August 31, 2013 at 10:33 pm

    @MikeJ: Late to the party but appreciate the TFC / Matthew Sweet linkage — was ripping Altered Beast earlier tonight for a post first date CD burn where I’m kicking well beyond my coverage so I’m looking for all the help I can get. Love the jangly guitars from all these guys (and hope she does too !)

  222. 222.

    Tom

    August 31, 2013 at 10:34 pm

    @rikyrah: I think Tiger Woods answered that question for you

  223. 223.

    gogiggs

    September 1, 2013 at 1:17 am

    I dunno, Jamey. You can’t really call “before they went mainstream” on this one because a) they never really went mainstream and b) Bandwagonesque was SPIN’s album of the year (over Nirvana. historically indefensible, artistically entirely defensible) THAT was as mainstream as TFC ever got.

    But I’m totally with you that later TFC albums are just as good as the ones people know.

  224. 224.

    virag

    September 1, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    @SarahT: i am a sucker for dissonant noise, especially when it is made by cuddly and mildly intoxicated dobbers.

  225. 225.

    virag

    September 1, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    @Jamey: ’13’ was a great album the first couple of times it came out under the big star label. ‘ace’ is just my kinda fun. i bought it on vinyl, so i really was into them before they got famous. except they never got all that famous, so, nice try.

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