Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Republicans can’t even be trusted with their own money.

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

Today’s GOP: why go just far enough when too far is right there?

People are complicated. Love is not.

Roe isn’t about choice, it’s about freedom.

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

Seems like a complicated subject, have you tried yelling at it?

Prediction: the GOP will rethink its strategy of boycotting future committees.

New McCarthy, same old McCarthyism.

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

Why is it so hard for them to condemn hate?

Impressively dumb. Congratulations.

I wonder if trump will be tried as an adult.

Reality always lies in wait for … Democrats.

“Jesus paying for the sins of everyone is an insult to those who paid for their own sins.”

Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

“Everybody’s entitled to be an idiot.”

They’re not red states to be hated; they are voter suppression states to be fixed.

Wow, I can’t imagine what it was like to comment in morse code.

But frankly mr. cole, I’ll be happier when you get back to telling us to go fuck ourselves.

We cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation.

We’ll be taking my thoughts and prayers to the ballot box.

A consequence of cucumbers

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  2. 2.

    Yatsuno

    I was a wee bit worried for The Dangerman’s heart there for a bit. But then out of nowhere UCLA remembered how to play football.

    Oh and GO ILLINI!!!

  7. 7.

    Botsplainer

    Only a broadcast team from ESPN could be so in the tank for the SEC that they could pretend that a 4th and 10 play with 1:40 left to go (and 14 points to cover) would potentially lead to a win.

    I’m calling them ESECPN from now on.

  8. 8.

    Amir Khalid

    You said college football open thread, right? So …
    It’s been a good Saturday for Liverpool FC in the English Prem. Last week’s second placed club, Chelsea, have lost 0 – 1 at Everton; so on Monday, Liverpool need only beat Swansea, mired in the relegation-zone, to return to the top of the table with a three-point lead.

  9. 9.

    Yatsuno

    @Botsplainer:

    I’m calling them ESECPN from now on.

    You just noticed this now? I swear Corso gets wood every time he says SEC. Kinda like Grandpa Walnuts and wars.

  10. 10.

    Tommy

    @Yatsuno: I am an SEC guy (LSU). But live in Big Ten country (go Ilini). Look the SEC is really good (see all the national championships in a row), but if I wasn’t a SEC guy I am sure I’d be pretty sick of hearing how good we are. My parents always taught me when you are good at something you don’t have to talk about it.

  12. 12.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Tommy:

    My parents always taught me when you are good at something you don’t have to talk about it.

    Your parents were a little different than mine. My old man taught me that if you can’t kick a man when he’s down, when can you kick him? ;-)

  15. 15.

    OzarkHillbilly

    After looking at that pic, I’d bet you don’t let your little one play in the yard, do you Betty?

  20. 20.

    Tommy

    @OzarkHillbilly: File this under I might yell someday to “get off my lawn.” Your comment got me thinking about what I said to somebody, a parent the other day.

    I live in a rural town of 5,500. Maybe the safest town in America.

    I live on the edge of town, heck a 5,000 acre soybean field in front of my house.

    Walking to the 7-11 type store yesterday to get a soda. Kids where coming home from school on the bus. I’ve seen this many times before, but I never say anything. Parents drive like 2-3 blocks from their homes to pick their kids up from the bus stop. These are not 4 year olds. Almost teens.

    I noted to a mother it was like 82, not a cloud in the sky. I’d seen parents doing this for years and I just had to ask, couldn’t they just walk home?

    I was politely told to mind my own business, which I should have, but I just had to ask.

  24. 24.

    Tommy

    @raven: Well I am sure there was, East St. Louis is only a few miles from me. Folks killed there it seems almost daily. But in my town nothing like that. I look at the crime report each year and crime breaks down to this (1) Kids being kids. (2) Way to many men beating their wives/girlfriends (filed under domestic violence calls — and seems to be “covered” up). Outside that nothing. Heck I don’t even lock my front door and I don’t know other people that think/worry about that either.

  26. 26.

    The Dangerman

    @Yatsuno:

    I was a wee bit worried for The Dangerman’s heart there for a bit.

    I’ll admit, I thought they were done; they could have come out sky high OR flat as a pancake…

    …I didn’t think that OR could have been an AND, but it was. Fine, fine win.

    That wasn’t really a squeaker, so I guess that means Bama will win in a close one.

    ETA: Nah, Bama is gonna kick their ass.

  30. 30.

    pamelabrown53

    Dear Betty,

    Cocks, Croks or Gators?

    I live in a rich republican hamlet of Florida, Gators rule.

  31. 31.

    Dolly Llama

    God fucking DAMN, A&M just made Alabama look stupid. Fuck. I harbor nothing but ill will for Johnny Signball, but damn. That was what it was.

  32. 32.

    The Dangerman

    I’m still not buying what A&M is selling…

    …but I’ll settle for an exciting game. Or a blowout and a nap. I’m easy.

  34. 34.

    Tommy

    @Baud: LOL. Outside of a few elderly folks, I am about the only person of child raising age (44) that doesn’t have kids within a block or two of my house. They are everywhere. I bought my parents house I grew up in, so I know this area as a kid. Within a baseball throw of my house, or at least a nine iron there are enough kids to start a football team. I never see them outside. They never walk home from school. I am sorry, I just find that strange.

    Now just to note as a kid my dad and I built a computer from a kit in like 1982. I had every gaming system. Pong. Atari 2600. Commedore 64. I was a geek, but after an hour or so I was told to go outside and play. I don’t see kids playing outside.

  36. 36.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @raven: Well, I was thinking specifically of the Loyalty Song. But on doing some Googling, I am finding some contrary information, and if I’m wrong I beg to offer an unqualified non-apology apology :-)

    When I was growing up (third-generation Oak Parker) it was an unquestioned article of faith that the song was written for OPRFHS and later adopted by U of Illinois. My grandmother and great-aunt were OP class of 1910, and it was well-established by then as the school fight song. But I can’t track down a date of first use in OP. A couple of sources tell me it was written for Illinois in 1906, so certainly possible they were there first, but not for long.

    Not that it matters. Great fight song, I’ve always thought.

  37. 37.

    Jerzy Russian

    @efgoldman: I have two questions regarding the Huskers:

    1. How do you prevent the Huskers from scoring over 50 points?

    2. What does the N on their helmets stand for?

    The answers will be forthcoming.

  38. 38.

    raven

    @SiubhanDuinne: It’s the singer not the songgggg/

    The same old places and the same old songs
    We’ve been going there for much too long
    There’s something wrong and it gives me that feeling
    inside that I know I must be right
    It’s the singer not the song
    It’s the singer not the song
    It’s the singer not the song

  41. 41.

    Hill Dweller

    The 2nd false start call on Alabama was BS, but they showed very little composure in that first series.

  42. 42.

    MattF

    I hope everyone realizes that the croc on the front page is only a baby. Less than six feet, looks to me. Just a cutie pie! AWWWW…

  43. 43.

    Tommy

    I dislike Bama as an LSU guy, but I actually might hate A&M, if for no other reason then when I went to the campus there are large parts of it where there are signs telling you not to walk on the grass (no clue if they are still there). Oh and when I was at LSU in the early 90s they were a powerhouse and we had them the first game of the year (and we totally, totally sucked). They put up like 50+ points on us just cause they could.

  48. 48.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Baud:

    Have you considered the possibility that maybe it’s you they’re afraid of?

    Heh. Some years ago I moved into an apt in not the greatest neighborhood in south St Louis. I had a walking stick with a goat skull mounted on it (long story). When I moved out, the landlord told me I was making the neighbors very happy, as they would no longer have to worry about me working a “voodoo curse” on them.

  54. 54.

    Hill Dweller

    Saban has to either quit the bump and run coverage or give his left corner some help over the top, because he is getting scorched thus far.

  58. 58.

    Tommy

    @OzarkHillbilly: I am a pretty laid back, easy going guy. Lived my entire adult life in DC until I moved back here to rural, southern IL where I grew up. I used to fly this flag (still do BTW). A person said people didn’t know what it was and thought I might support some communist nation. It is mostly red with red stars.

    I was like that is the flag for the District of Columbia, you know the nation’s capital.

  59. 59.

    Corner Stone

    @raven:

    Need pressure up front.

    Bama can’t. If they don’t maintain gaps then Johnny will run for 15 every snap.
    That 5’10” corner looks like a middle schooler against that beast A&M calls a wide receiver.

  65. 65.

    Tommy

    @raven: 64 to 51 and I am at your “people’s” place. Not that far. Maybe 30-45 minutes (if that). I am outside of Belleville/Scott Air Force Base.

  66. 66.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @efgoldman: Remember the joke about the Crocogator, the meanest animal in the world?

    – He has the head of a crocodile on one end (snap, snap, bite you to death!) and the head of an alligator on the other end (snap, snap, bit you to death!)
    – So if he has a crocodile head on one end and an alligator head on the other end, how does he shit?
    – He don’t. That’s what makes him so mean.

    Well, it was amusing when I was about 14.

  68. 68.

    Tommy

    Does Bama not have a defense or is A&M actually this good? Good thing I am not a betting man, cause I didn’t think A&M was for real.

  71. 71.

    IowaOldLady

    @Tommy: I used to walk the dog the single block to meet my kid’s school bus until he was 11 because both the dog and the kid liked it. I was never worried about his safety. I just liked meeting him.

  75. 75.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @raven:

    It’s early.

    Don’t sell A&M short. I doubt they will win, but they are good, from what I have read anyway. Not that I will ever watch them. I swore off Texas a long time ago in all it’s forms. I have relatives there.

  76. 76.

    PaulW

    Knock-knock. Land Shark.

    Seriously, though, I hope to GOD USF Bulls beat Florida Atlantic tonight. Please God, don’t make South Florida go 0-12 this year…

  78. 78.

    Tommy

    @IowaOldLady

    I got NO problem with a parent walking down there. I think that is cool. Even better if you are taking a pet out for a walk. These folks drive 1-3 blocks on a sunny day, low 80s. Before I moved back here I lived in a large metro area. Downtown. I didn’t drive for days and walked all the time. So I walk here to the little store on the corner for a paper, soda, or candy bar. I recall once, only been here a few weeks, the lady that lives next to me stopped in her car and asked if I needed a ride. I just laughed, nope I am walking. It is only four blocks round trip, nice day. She looked at me like I had a third hand growing out of my forehead.

    I guess folks just are lazy and/or they really like their cars :).

    BTW: I should note so many folks do this that the lady that owns the house where the bus stops, put up stakes and string along her yard so people won’t park their right front tire on her lawn.

  82. 82.

    IowaOldLady

    @Tommy: Oh. Somehow I missed the driving angle.

    My dog loved that walk, a love that was increased when one winter day we were waiting inside the entry to the middle school/high school where the bus stopped, and the dog found a cookie under a radiator. Every time we went after that, he checked under that radiator, it being the place where cookies were evidently stored.

  83. 83.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    When will the NCAA step up and put an end to the uniform madness at Phil Knight University?

  87. 87.

    Dolly Llama

    Good God. What piss-poor tackling on the Tide’s part there.

    ETA: I can’t believe the announcer used “signature” and “Johnny Manziel” in the same sentence just now.

  89. 89.

    Keith P

    Good lord, how the hell does Bama let Manziel convert on a 3rd down like that? Shoulda been a sack, but even discounting that, no way should their secondary let A&M catch that ball.

    EDIT: OK, redemption is found in the endzone.

  90. 90.

    Tommy

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): It is amazing isn’t it. RGIII got fined for wearing a non-Nike tee-shirt in the pre-game of a NFL pre-season game this year. I played some sports at a pretty high level (up to DI) and I was totally anal about what I wore, really anal about my shoes. I’ve always wondered if a player didn’t want to wear their gear what if anything could they do (nothing of course).

  97. 97.

    Tommy

    @raven: If A&M doesn’t get some kind of rush, this is going to be a really long day for them. I don’t care how good your D-backs are, they can only cover folks for so long before coverage breaks down and somebody is wide open (see recent Bama drive).

  99. 99.

    Keith P

    @raven: Doesn’t matter if it’s Joe Montana – that was just a bad play on Bama’s part. Manziel threw the ball into a crowd of people, ala a Hail Mary. Shoulda been batted down at worst. Matters not, though. Bama intercepted later and got a TD on a solid passing drive.

  100. 100.

    Hill Dweller

    @Tommy: A&M is loading up the box to stop the run. But if they start playing a pass defense, Bama will run it down their throat.

  106. 106.

    Mike in NC

    We have a similar photo of a gator that was wandering around in our development about 5 years ago.

  110. 110.

    Keith P

    @raven: “Land of the free and home of the brave”? Are you high? All I’m saying is that the Bama secondary should have batted the goddamn ball down. Give the theatrics a rest!

  112. 112.

    raven

    @Tommy: Here’s the language, I was wrong about the “next game”. Depends on the half:

    The rule, passed by the Football Rules Committee in February and approved by the Playing Rules Oversight Panel in March, addresses the committee’s concern about player safety by taking more measures to remove targeting, or above the shoulder hits on defenseless players, out of the game.
    The rule in football means that discipline for players flagged for violations will mirror the penalty for fighting. If the foul occurs in the first half of a game, the player is ejected for the remainder of the game. If the foul occurs in the second half or overtime of a game, the player is ejected for the remainder of the game and the first half of the next contest.

  113. 113.

    Tommy

    @raven: I still didn’t know that. But I also wasn’t aware it could be reviewed “upstairs.” I guess that the “targeting” part can be reviewed I kind of like the rule. No review, not so much.

  116. 116.

    raven

    @Keith P: Am I high, shit. They SHOULD have. This the first fucking game you ever watched. Somebody should do something every goddamn play.

  117. 117.

    Keith P

    @Tommy: It’s an OK compromise insofar as it technically keeps replays out of the core game WRT to reversing penalties, but on the other hand, ejecting a player for up to 1.5 games is severe enough that it’s good to let someone take a closer look at and possibly overturn it.

  121. 121.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    Not that I like the Vols much, but I’ll be happy when this certain loss is overturned when the NCAA rules that PKU intentionally blinded the visitors with their unis.

  124. 124.

    raven

    @efgoldman: He’s the Minnesota head coach. He went there from Northern Illinois and has had at least one other one on the sidelines.

    “Kill has worked with doctors to bring his seizures under better control with medication, rest, nutrition and exercise, but the stress of a game day is hard to avoid. Kill suffered a seizure in the locker room at halftime last November during a loss to Michigan State, his third documented episode during a game at Minnesota since taking over here in 2011.

    He had seizures after a defeat by Northwestern last October and also in September 2011, on the sideline near the end of his first game at TCF Bank Stadium, a loss to New Mexico State. Other episodes have occurred elsewhere, without warning as epileptics know all too well.”

  130. 130.

    Keith P

    Killer interception by Bama. That’s just a dagger in the heart after holding Bama to start the 2nd half.

  132. 132.

    raven

    I bought my first color tv for the Illinois-Washington game. . . 41 years ago! I have to watch this on my laptop.

  133. 133.

    Hill Dweller

    That amazing interception return aside, Alabama hasn’t come out ready to play in the 2nd half. They’re flat on both sides of the ball.

  134. 134.

    HeartlandLiberal

    Friend and I went to the Indiana Bowling Green game here in Bloomington. BEAUTIFUL day, clear skies, low 70’s.

    It is hard to be an IU football fan. My friend said he had read a recent survey of how IU’s football program ranks historically. Sounds like this article, in which IU is sixth worst ever:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1188460-the-25-worst-college-football-programs-ever

    Anyway, IU won this game very convincingly, and I enjoyed the fruit smoothie and the chili cheese fires, since these games allow me to indulge in such health food as the latter, balanced by the excusable fruit smoothies.

    Frankly, the team this year is looking best I have seen in a long time, especially the offense, defense still weak. We shall see what happens when we hit Big Ten conference play.

    Oh, well, basketball is coming. Victor Oladipo and Cody Zeller, who left after last season to go pro to the Magic and the Charlotte Bobcats, were in town to visit, and I suspect help with recruiting. Both were in the top 4 picks this Spring, an amazing accomplishment for the program and indication of how far Coach Crean has brought IU basketball back to life.

  136. 136.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    I’m not hip on Johnny Football the next Tebow for Skip Bayless to jack off to, but reading that story about the Alabama sorority story I would like to see the Aggies win, but it doesn’t look it. GO BUCKS BEAT CAL!!!

  137. 137.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    I’m not hip on Johnny Football the next Tebow for Skip Bayless to jack off to, but reading that story about the Alabama sorority story I would like to see the Aggies win, but it doesn’t look it. GO BUCKS BEAT CAL!!!

  141. 141.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    @efgoldman: See, there was this QB coach at TN, worked with a young man named Manning, who then went to Ole Miss to coach another young man named Manning. He’s at Duke now. The coach, that is.

  143. 143.

    Hill Dweller

    Alabama’s defense has been poor in the 2nd half. A long drive and score by their offense would do them a lot of good.

  145. 145.

    Joseph Nobles

    @efgoldman: CBS Sports had it at Aggies +9. #oops

    ETA: Well, just went back and looked. They had it Aggies +9, O/U 64. I don’t know betting that well, so you can tell me what that means.

  147. 147.

    Keith P

    Piss-poor ball handling by Bama. If they can’t close the show at the half yard line, maybe they don’t deserve to win.

    EDIT: That TD may just give Saban a stroke

  150. 150.

    Hill Dweller

    Alabama’s defense has been horrendous in the 2nd half.

    Why play bump and run coverage on 3rd and long at the 5 yard line?

  152. 152.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    Somebody better tell the Aggies about time management, and AJ McCarron has learned well at the feet of the Mannings

  154. 154.

    Keith P

    Jeez, Bama can’t even kick an extra point without drawing a penalty. They need to get this penalty crap under control sooner rather than later. It nearly cost them this game, and at some point, it will cost them a game.

  156. 156.

    Dolly Llama

    Well, that’s that. Johnny Signball gets to suck eggs tonight. I’m flipping over to the Vanderbilt/South Carolina game now. I’d normally be cheering Vanderbilt all the way, but fuck that noise now. Ain’t cheering for a pack of cokehead gang rapists.

  167. 167.

    Keith P

    I don’t know if my nerves can handle watching the fight tonight after sitting through the Bama-A&M game. I was already frazzled from Texans-Chargers. I may need to step away from sports for a while. I’m a big Auburn fan, but I’m not even watching that game today.

  168. 168.

    Hill Dweller

    Why can’t Saban recruit a dominant pass rusher? He has always had good run stoppers, but they’ve never been able to consistently get any pressure on the QB without a blitz and/or stunt.

    Granted, they’re still winning National Championships, and this amounts to nitpicking, but his life would be much easier if his front four could consistently pressure the QB.

  170. 170.

    Alison

    @Scout211: Rather recently created, I believe.

    My dad only went to Cal for one year but that plus living in the Bay Area I feel inclined to root for them, so this is a rather painful beginning…

  171. 171.

    piratedan

    @Hill Dweller: sorry, I won’t shed a tear if Bama can’t buy.. er recruit a dominant pass rusher… cripes, your guys had to get on the plane for the first time in two years, don’t be so bleeping traumatized…. //

  173. 173.

    Keith P

    I’m sure you’ll still hear people telling you that regardless of how mediocre he plays, he’s still a monster, or that he had a great game because he got double-teamed all game.

  175. 175.

    Yatsuno

    @Cassidy: I see zero reason why the options should be mutually exclusive. And I may never forgive South Africa for foisting those upon the world.

  177. 177.

    The Dangerman

    @Dolly Llama:

    Another week, another big bowl of nothing special from Jadeveon Clowney.

    If memory serves (this many beers in, it’s questionable), he would have been the #1 pick in the draft, but he won’t be draft eligible until this year; he may be protecting himself after watching Lattimore ruin his payday.

  180. 180.

    The Dangerman

    @Dolly Llama:

    If so, he may be “protecting himself” right out of the big-money rounds.

    Nah, he’s a dead solid lock as #1 pick; apparently, his numbers that will come up at the combine are off the charts.

  181. 181.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Yatsuno:

    And I may never forgive South Africa for foisting those upon the world.

    Last summer (2012) we had a kind of local Commonwealth Games for the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee. South Africa cheated in the egg-and-spoon race. We would have won, otherwise.

  185. 185.

    Corner Stone

    @Dolly Llama: Uh, OK. Good for you?
    He’s still a multimillionaire come next summer. How’s that taste?
    Does that put more food in your dawg bowl? Golf clap to you.

  187. 187.

    Corner Stone

    @Dolly Llama: Wow. A player who will be a unanimous top 10 pick in the draft, and I’m out of line for saying he’s pretty good?
    Maybe you have a mirror in your place?
    You’re a fucking idiot for putting a career of tape on one or even two games.
    Seems you got an irrational hate on. Why do you hate so much, you fucking troll?

  189. 189.

    Dolly Llama

    @Corner Stone:

    Seems you got an irrational hate on. Why do you hate so much, you fucking troll?

    I just heard so much about God, er, Clowney in the offseason that I guess I just expected to see a little more, that’s all. Have a great night!

  190. 190.

    tybee

    well, free shoes won, penn state is losing to UCF, bama won (although i thought for a while i’d be able to annoy some friends who are tide fans).

    not a bad day.

    now let’s see how innovative atlanta can be while losing to the rams on the morrow.

  192. 192.

    Dolly Llama

    @Corner Stone: The ironic thing about jawing with you about any of this is that tonight’s probably the only night this year I’ll actually be pulling for the Ol’ Ball Sack’s team. Normally I’d be cheering for Vanderbilt, but I can’t bring myself to pull for a coach who would play a guy that, at the very least, aided and abetted a bunch of coke-addled gang rapists. So, yeah, go ‘Cocks, I guess. You personally can still go fuck yourself, though. Have a great night!

  195. 195.

    Joseph Nobles

    @efgoldman: OK, so an over/under bet would be based on that 65 number; and if you had put some serious cash on Over 15, you would be swimming in green right about now?

  197. 197.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Southern Beale: I’ve sent out the bat signal to my cousin, expert and arbiter of all things grilled, smoked, and BBQ’d. Will respond on your blog when I hear from him. Or he may reply directly — I sent him link to your blog.

  198. 198.

    Villago Delenda Est

    One word:

    QUACK

    I apologize for the uniforms, which is now obligatory for all DuckU alumni.

  200. 200.

    tybee

    @Southern Beale:

    i start from here and tweak a bit depending on what i want as a finished productL

    1/4 cup brown sugar
    1/4 cup paprika
    2 Tablespoons coarse kosher salt
    1 teaspoon ground cumin
    3 Tablespoon garlic powder
    1 Tablespoon black pepper
    1 1/2 teaspoons paprika
    1 Tablespoon cayenne pepper

    run it through a grinder.
    rub critter with it.

  201. 201.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @tybee: Man, that sounds awesome. I think i’ll tell my cousin not to bother. (I think i’ll share this with him, in fact.)

  203. 203.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    @raven: Kill has been diagnosed with epilepsy. So having a seizure during a game isn’t really a surprise, particularly since stress is one of the triggers. It played out very differently today than it did the first couple of times he had one while he was here. He and the rest of the staff here have decided that it’s something that’s going to happen from time to time and they should just prepare for it.

    They spent a *lot* of time talking to the team about it so that they didn’t panic like they did two years ago. The medical staff went to help him, the alterations in the chain of authority were predetermined and the team pretty much just went back to work. The party line is that it just isn’t a big deal and that certainly seemed to be borne out by the way they handled it.

    The big event of the day was the women’s hockey team getting their national championship rings between the first and second quarter. That’s the only reason I went.

  206. 206.

    tybee

    @Yatsuno:

    i fired up the server this morn and checked the original document. that second helping of paprika is not in the original.

    dunno.

    coriander is good but i have a person or two that i feed occasionally that don’t like cilantro in any form or fashion.
    i’ve also used oregano or rosemary in that basic mix.
    i quadruple the recipe and keep that in an airtight jar so i can get out the quantity i need and then mix in the other ingredients…curries, ginger, more hot peppers, etc.

  207. 207.

    nemesis

    @Hill Dweller: pass rushing sacks arent a requirement of Sabans defenses. The main thrust is to effect the QB by getting him to move his feet. Causes lots of poor throws. Plus the Bama noseguard is designed to be huge (350 lbs) and occupy two offensive linemen, which leads to lesspass rush push up the middle.

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