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I hate to do this, but you all know that I am the Grand Chapter Advisor for my college fraternity, which is kind of unlike most college fraternities in that we aren’t a bunch of trust fund douchebags with unlimited pockets, and we have a bunch of great kids from across the full spectrum of America. At any rate, we are running low on funds because some kids dropped out of school (meaning fewer dues to pay our insurance and operating costs). They are going to be doing some demolition work on weekends to make a couple grand for a local contractor, but for Homecoming, we are holding an open raffle for some steaks and crab meat. The price for a raffle ticket is 10 bucks, and you get three packs of Omaha steaks and crab meat, and it is all for a good cause.

If you are interested and want a chance at winning some steaks and helping some really good kids (and, by proxy, reducing yet another stress point for me as I continue to juggle ways to keep the house financially solvent), the link to enter the raffle is here, and we will ship them to you.

I do everything I can for these boys- I have paid dues for at least four members and had them work it off at my house, I’ve catered all their recruiting and formal events out of my own pocket, I’ve even dropped a grand to drive the kids across country in a rental car to stay in a hotel while they are at a three day conference, but I can’t dig us out of this hole. I hate using this website for this bleg, as it is not political or related to animal rescue, and I know many of you hate the whole concept of fraternities.

We reorganized three years ago, and we are still saddled with a bunch of old debt from before, and if we can just make it through this hump, we’ll be good, because we have spent three years building alumni support and are going to have an unprecedented turnout on Homecoming, and we really are on the cusp of finally making it after decades of the Chapter floundering. We have good leadership, we have built an alumni network and have weekly calls. We just need a little bit more help to keep this thing alive for a while before we are out of the woods. I’m so sick and tired of lying in bed wondering where the money is going to come from for these guys, but I really feel like we are reaching critical mass with out alumni outreach.

Regardless, trust me, your help would be appreciated, though, because I am really at my wits end. I just want these kids to have the same kind of positive experience I had and that so many other kids with more means have. Plus, you might win some awesome steaks!

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  2. 2.

    SiubhanDuinne

    John, I’ll go in for $20 but in the (admittedly very unlikely) event that I win the steaks and crab and all, I would like it to go to a homeless or feed-the-hungry cause in the Bethany area, choice to be made by the brothers. Can that be arranged?

  3. 3.

    raven

    I’m getting a notice that says the site is insecure and then this”

    There are no events for that receipt. Please verify your link.

    I’m gonna hold my breath and fire.

    I hit PAY NOW and get

    Page Not Found

    That page you requested does not exist. Please use the site map below to find what you are looking for.

    Below is a helpful site map of our website.

  8. 8.

    PsiFighter37

    John, happy to chip in to the cause – but is there any way that my donation can be identified so that the steaks are given to those in need of it (if I happen to hit the lucky numbers)? I like SiubhanDuinne’s suggestion above, but there’s nothing on the donation page that has a comments section or such.

  9. 9.

    CT Voter

    Lurker here. I’m in. They sound like a great group, and could use a break, so sure, some total stranger in Connecticut will now care about Homecoming at some place in West Virginia. The intertubes are grand.

  11. 11.

    Mary G

    Pledged $50. Sorry it can’t be more, but Martin put up a link earlier that told me I make $52,000 less than the median of my zip code.

  14. 14.

    raven

    I hate using this website for this bleg, as it is not political or related to animal rescue, and I know many of you hate the whole concept of fraternities.

    I don’t think this is much to ask for what BJ gives. No one has to do it if they don’t want to and no one is more anti-greek than I am (Sigma Nu legacy or not!)

  17. 17.

    tokyo ex-pat

    Just bought two tickets. My dad is a Bethany alum from the ’50s and I know he has lots of good memories of going to school in W. Va. Hope the fundraiser is a success.

  18. 18.

    John Cole

    @cathyx: Brotherhood. They do everything together. Study, party, date, go to class, go to each other’s sporting events and go to other sporting events with our colors on to support the team, numerous charity work, I set up a cabinet in the ritual room that is full with notes brothers took from previous courses to help others during study sessions, etc. Our motto is to better the man, and I think we have some of the best kids on the planet. Like I have said before regarding my interactions with them, I just hope I do not fuck them up.

  20. 20.

    Jill

    @John Cole:

    Same here. In the unlikely event I win would ask you to donate the food as well. I trust you know all too many places where people are in need of a good meal.

    Thanks

  22. 22.

    JPL

    If this is not a secure site, I will haunt you forever. If I win please donate the food to the soup kitchen.

    @Mary G: haha.. The same thing happened to me.

  23. 23.

    Walter Henkels

    First off I need to thank JG for getting the word out. I am an Alpha Sig Alumni and have been helping these kids out for the past few years. They need coaching? As we all did at that age, and we have put together a Grand Chapter Council to do this. We were once the strongest and most honored house on campus but times change much to our dismay. I could go on and on about what the Fraternal life did for me but I will spare you. Once again, thank you for the support and for the offer of donating winnings to those in need. Peace my interweb friends.

  24. 24.

    PsiFighter37

    @John Cole: Tossed in a donation – hope it helps out. If you can see them by name, you already know my real name – so just mark the steaks down for donation should I win.

  25. 25.

    bystander

    Christ, Cole. You really could wring blood out of a stone. You have no idea how unlikely a contributor I am… half the time, I don’t even think I like this joint… but, I’m in for $20.

    Ditto on donating a most unlikely win to your charity of choice.

  26. 26.

    MikeJ

    You might make that link to the page where you enter your credit card number an https instead of an http.

  31. 31.

    PopeRatzo

    @Mary G: @Mary G:

    Sorry it can’t be more, but Martin put up a link earlier that told me I make $52,000 less than the median of my zip code.

    I can relate. We’re the po’ folks in a very rich neighborhood here in Chicago. We bought our house before the neighborhood got all posh. President of the Univ of IL Chicago lives across the alley, city councilman is my neighbor, even a Nobel laureate on my block. We can barely afford to pay the taxes on the place, but I’ll be goddamned if I’m gonna move from the house my daughter grew up in just because the 1% moved in all around me. When we got here, the old mansions on the block were rundown and we were only blocks from skid row. There was at least one drug house and a brothel. But we were walking distance from our offices, and there was a great school. Property values went crazy in the 80’s and 90’s and fortunately we never took any equity out, so we’re OK.

    Now, it’s snobsville. There was one other guy who bought in before gentrification, but he’s getting up there. Right now, my 16 year-old Mazda is parked between a Mercedes S-Class and an Astin-Martin DB9. All the other dogs on the block are purebreds, but my old border collie mix says, “Fuck ’em”.

  32. 32.

    silvery

    Usually a lurker here but I really want to help out with this. Just can’t bring myself to enter cc info on a non-secure site. Can I just donate via your paypal link and note that it’s for the brothers?

  33. 33.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @John Cole: That link is not allowing me to select a quantity (how many raffle tickets). Instead, I get a dialog box that says something like, Gosh, sorry we’re not around right now but we’d love to chat.

    No. I just want to make my donation and settle back with a glass of wine. Any chance of another fix? Thanks.

  40. 40.

    geg6

    Although I am not generally a fan of frats (and my John’s tales of his frat days don’t help), I owe you (and all of BJ) for bringing my Koda into my life. But I want the fucking steaks and I don’t care how mean spirited that makes me!

  42. 42.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    I’m in for $20.00 if only for the thought that a homeless person gets to go to dinner and eats a steak instead of soup or stew. I would so love to see that face.

  44. 44.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @JPL: Yeah, thanks, but that’s the one I used that won’t let me select quantity. I’m just going to mail an actual hand-filled-out paper cheque to the fraternity with a cover note specifying what it’s for.

  47. 47.

    SIA

    Link didn’t work. Will try again. If I win, I want John, accompanied by the piglets and Steve, to hand deliver the steaks wearing only a mop and his fraternity pin.

  48. 48.

    Violet

    In the link, the title of this raffle is listed as “Omaho Steaks”. Is that some kind of house brand version of Omaha Steaks?

  49. 49.

    Nina-the-first

    I am so not a winnah, def a loser, but I’m in anyway–someone’s going to win no matter what. And it’s amazing how JC can get donations–even from a chronic loser.

  50. 50.

    burnspbesq

    @Jeremy:

    Nope. At least not me. NAFTA has on balance been a good thing for this country, repeal of Glass-Steagall would have worked if Republicans hadn’t gutted the SEC’s and CFTC’s enforcement authority, and chained CPI isn’t nearly as bad as some folks with axes to grind make it out to be.

    And on top of that, some of us have enough common sense to not turn minor policy hiccups into shibboleths that prevent putting a solid person into a job for which she is amply qualified.

    Any other questions?

  54. 54.

    MikeJ

    @burnspbesq: Frankly, all I care about is continued QE. I didn’t have anything against Summers because he wanted good policy. If I thought he would be in favor of good monetary policy I wouldn’t care if Obama named Bush the dumber. Of course I doubt that he would be in favor of good policy, so it’s moot.

  55. 55.

    burnspbesq

    Gamma Delta Iota here, but on behalf of my brothers (a Sig Ep and a SAE), I will kick something in when I get back to my personal computer. If I win, give the cost of the stuff to a homeless shelter.

  57. 57.

    burnspbesq

    @JPL:

    I could have just called the guy a dick, but I felt like giving a substantive response.

    And ‘sides, by mclaren standards I am the soul of conciseness.

  58. 58.

    Jane2

    Done! Now, if I win, we’ll need another raffle because there is no way the Canadian authorities will allow that Yankee beef into the heart of Canadian grass-fed cattle country.

  60. 60.

    JPL

    @currants: The real fun comes when you click next, it tells you want pets you own, what cars you drive and what you drink in your income category.

  61. 61.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @burnspbesq: I am also Gamma Delta Iota for social Greeks but was active (chapter president, in fact) of the professional music fraternity (women’s fraternity, does no one study classics?) Sigma Alpha Iota.

  62. 62.

    Jane2

    WP I hate you…if I’m not in moderation, I get random “you do not have permission to edit this comment” when there are 3 minutes to go.

    ANYWAY, I see you have a homeless shelter, an excellent destination for my potential prize!

  63. 63.

    Jeremy

    @burnspbesq: I agree with all the points you made. I think all of the anti Chained CPI stuff was nonsense. The Presidents proposal exempted SSI and the poor, and a bump up on the benefit floor. Also Lawrence Odonnell and Bob Shrum pointed out that the CPI was adjusted numerous times in the past and SS recipients have been doing fine.

    I just can’t stand the hypocrisy from the “purity” crowd.

  64. 64.

    PurpleGirl

    @Mary G: Thanks for putting in the link. I put in my last salary from former job and I was $4,415 below the median for Woodside. Argh. Not too bad but still below the median.

    On topic: I will contributing something but I have finish paying bills first. I will also ask that the steaks and crab meat go to a food program in the Bethany area.

  65. 65.

    PsiFighter37

    @PurpleGirl: The one thing I wasn’t clear about – is this site measuring household income, or individual? I was thinking household based on what it said, i.e. whomever is working under the same roof.

  67. 67.

    April

    I tried twice but was unsuccessful. I would be happy to send a check. The check might not be in time for the event, but maybe would help a little anyway.

  68. 68.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @SIA: Hi SIA! It is such a small school I will take my chances with Treasurer, Alpha Sigma Phi fraternity, Beta Gamma chapter, Bethany College, Bethany, WV 26032.

    O/T, is your schedule any easier these days? Would love to meet up with you and I suspect JPL would too, although I obviously cannot speak for her. Email if you want to SiubhanDuinne (at) gmail (dot) com.

  69. 69.

    Nicole

    I’m in. I have no use for Greek life, but my brother and my dad both really loved their time in their fraternities, so okay. You’re a good egg, Cole.

  70. 70.

    PopeRatzo

    @Jeremy:

    Well it looks like Janet Yellen supported Glass Stegall, NAFTA, and Chained CPI when she was in the Clinton administration according to Ezra Klein. So after everyone attacked Summers are they going to go after Yellen ???

    God, I hope so. There is no rule that the Chairman of the Fed has to be an ex-Citigroup banker like Summers, Yellin, Jack Lew, Geithner, etc.

    There are several very highly-qualified economists who could do the job without turning the Fed into Citigroup-Sachs piggy bank.

  71. 71.

    Lymie

    I contributed because of the blog, but FSM I hate fraternities (Dartmouth alum) fucking misogynistic institutions. I will be happy to put the crab to good use, but I never win, so not a worry.

  72. 72.

    Jeremy

    @PopeRatzo: Not every person who works for a bank is some evil person. Jack Lew worked for Tip O’neill and he has been a long supporter of entitlement programs. Many people have changed their opinions on the deregulation era of the 80’s and 90’s.

    I just can’t stand the purity brigade which reminds me of a left version of the teabaggers.

  75. 75.

    SIA

    @SiubhanDuinne: I think my schedule is going to ease up by October, and would enjoy meeting up. You both live “way up north” right? I’m in east Atlanta near Decatur.

  76. 76.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    I bought a few tickets. I hope it helps. I used a different e-mail address than the one I use here. In the unlikely event that one of my tickets is picked, I assume that you’ll drop me a line so that I can say you should donate the winnings to a good service group rather than shipping it.

    You’re a good man, JC.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  77. 77.

    Suzanne

    @Mary G: Is this household or individual? I can’t tell, because my zip code straddles some posh areas as well as some don’t-open-your-car-windows neighborhoods.

  79. 79.

    MazeDancer

    Lots of people want to help these young men. But need the Vegetarian/Don’t give name and info to a web site option. Note how most people want to make sure the meat goes to a food pantry or something.

    It’s just like every pet bleg, people like an easy, more anonymous, PayPal link. Or an address where to send a check/money order.

    Is the “Help the Brothers Out” with no raffle entry option possible? Thanks.

  81. 81.

    Suzanne

    On topic, I would love to donate, but my freakin’ fridge went out yesterday and I am foodless until pay day plus facing repair cost even though the damn thing is only three years old and it was new when we bought it.

    Grumble grumble grumble.

  82. 82.

    PurpleGirl

    I went back to the income site and in a few sentences at the top it implies individuals and then right before the fields, it says household income. Doesn’t matter for me, I’m single and the only income in the household.

  83. 83.

    Felonius Monk

    @Suzanne:

    my freakin’ fridge went out yesterday

    Was it jealous of the new dishwasher? :)

    ETA: I know how this really sucks. It has been an annual event here for the past 2 yrs and this one is also only about 3 yrs old. Thank FSM for service plan.

  84. 84.

    Belafon

    My oldest joined a fraternity at his college. It’s the only chapter (no national, though it was the first frat west of the Mississippi according to it’s history). A couple of days after he told us, he sent me a text: “Want to know that I picked the right frat? Everyone’s more excited about the new Legend of Korra than dinner.” Last year they finally got back to big enough to move back into their old frat house.

    For those who don’t know, the Legend of Korra is the sequel to Avatar: The Last Airbender. It’s a cartoon on Nickelodeon. The original TV series was really good, and then got ruined by a really crappy movie.

  86. 86.

    Suzanne

    @Felonius Monk: Probably. The duct/vent/whatever that carries cold air from the freezer into the fridge iced over and so the fridge got hot. It’s a Whirlpool Gold, only three years old, and not a bottom-of-the-line one, either. (Not a high-end one, but certainly not cheap.) GRRRR.

  90. 90.

    PopeRatzo

    @Jeremy:

    Not every person who works for a bank is some evil person. Jack Lew worked for Tip O’neill and he has been a long supporter of entitlement programs.

    No, of course not. But don’t you think maybe that it’s time to have a Fed chair that’s not from Citi or Goldman Sachs?

    And isn’t it interesting that these good people who have supported entitlements and been such great friends to Democrats always manage to enact policies that enrich those two banks (while letting others go under) and create greater poverty below the top 1%?

    I just can’t stand the purity brigade which reminds me of a left version of the teabaggers.

    And I can’t stand the striped-pants Democrats who will suddenly find great value in globalization, entitlement “reform”, deregulation and corporatist policies. They remind me of a left version of the striped-pants Republicans.

    There’s no “purity” involved, here, Jeremy. I don’t imagine you can understand that a Center-Right Democrat is still on the Right. Since 1980, we’ve been seeing these policies suck the wealth and life out of the middle class, cause millions to lose their homes and retirement savings, all while making the pals of Summers and Yellin and Lew and Rubin and Bernake wealthy beyond imagining. Did we really go through all that in 2008 and 2012 just so that the same policies can be re-affirmed? I’m tired of seeing working people lose a little more of their future and their hope year after year. The policies of the central bank have been the major driving force of this social decay, and we’ve been stuck in this revolving door with the same faces showing up in administration after administration. That’s not what we fought for in ’08 and ’10 and ’12 and in local races all over.

    Not about purity at all…so maybe it’s time to be a little less pure in our unwavering support for administrations who have kept these policies in place.

  98. 98.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    @PopeRatzo:

    But don’t you think maybe that it’s time to have a Fed chair that’s not from Citi or Goldman Sachs?

    Um, you realize that Ben Bernanke wasn’t from Citi or Goldman-Sachs, right? He was an academic.

    HTH.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  101. 101.

    Citizen_X

    To both of the following guys,

    @burnspbesq:

    NAFTA has on balance been a good thing for this country

    @PopeRatzo:

    The policies of the central bank have been the major driving force of this social decay

    I have to say: seriously? Show your work, please.

    This has been my personal BOTH SIDES DO IT! for the day.

  103. 103.

    Genine

    I bought a couple of tickets. If I win, I’d like the food to go to a homeless shelter. I’ll see if I can do more later this week. I am having oral surgery on Thursday and my dental insurance covers 80%. But 80% of what is the question. :-)

  104. 104.

    diana

    In exchange for this — and not to denigrate Cole’s great work here, just to balance what he says — can we have a thread where everyone talks about their experience of frats?

    As in, everyone, really, not just the guys who had a good time?

    As in, all the advice every woman remembers from college, don’t accept a drink (it might contain a roofie), don’t go to the second floor, make sure your friends find you when they leave, etc?

    As in, frats asked to leave the campus?

    As in, colleges and universities asked to scrutinize their budgets to make sure they weren’t supporting the frats in any way?

    As in, why these other perspectives existed?

    Like I said, not trying to rain on the parade. just at some point wanting another thread here.

  105. 105.

    dogwood

    Purchased a couple of tickets. I’ll leave it to your discretion, Cole, to distribute the prize as you see fit if I win.

  108. 108.

    Suzanne

    @raven: Thanks for the recommendation. We’ve cleared the condensate drain a few times now (oh yes, this has happened NUMEROUS TIMES), but apparently if it keeps happening, the regulator is fucked. That is most definitely beyond my skill set. “French manicure” is more my skill set, BTW.

  109. 109.

    mainmati

    I attended a PA liberal arts college that had frats and sororities (1970s). Not my scene. They were mainly jerks/partiers. Well the movie Animal House made of them pretty much described these folks except they were smart conservatives because this was a highly selective college. But most students were actually Indies or hippies. I was the head of campus SDS and was so not part of that scene at all.

    So I guess I am biased against the Greek scene but apparently some of them are now trying to be more socially integrated. Who knew? But that’s great. I’m not at all against social orgs per se. So I’ll pony some coins in. Glad you’re doing this John.

  113. 113.

    dogwood

    @diana:
    I was a sorority woman and had a great experience. A lot depends on the campus. I was at the University of Idaho (a few years before Sarah Palin), an idyllic campus of about 9000 undergraduates in rural northern Idaho. The Greek system there was very strong and stable. Lots of alum support for the 16 frats and the 9 sororities. It was also a system where all the Greek houses were national and representative of most of the largest and oldest geek organizations. The snobbery and elitism associated with sororities is pretty minimal on a campus like Idaho were most of the students are rural and not all that sophisticated. It does have a reputation as a big-time party school so there was plenty of drinking, but when I was there the drinking age was 19 so frat parties weren’t a big deal. People frequented the local bars and night spots that catered to the college crowd. Washington State U is 6 miles away and since the drinking age in Wash. was 21, Moscow was where all the action was. But I must say, that despite the rural character of the U of I, it is an artsy/hippie school in many ways. I learned a lot in those four years from the more trivial like how to make a proper introduction and some of the finer points of table manners to important things like how to make an agenda, run a meeting, plan an event, and the importance of volunteerism. If someone were to ask me what being a Pi Beta Phi did for me, it say it instilled in me the fine habit of volunteering.

  114. 114.

    Sarah in Brooklyn

    I’m in for $10, John, but if I win you guys can have the steaks, ’cause I don’t eat meat.

  115. 115.

    Tommy

    @dogwood: Delta Tau Delta here. Western Illinois Univeristy. It was kind of a messed up place but to be honest folks were kind of nice. I didn’t know that before. I recall it was the first place I leaned Roberts Rule Of Law trying to run things. I got stories …..

  118. 118.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Tommy: I safely avoided a tattoo. Would you like to be embarrassed about DTD? Paul Ryan was one at Miami of Ohio. OTOH, Justice Brennan was a Delt at Penn.

  119. 119.

    Tommy

    One of the best experiences of my life. Bar none. Literally until your post I had not thought so much about my frat. Well none.We got a few nice members out there.

  120. 120.

    moderateindy

    @Tommy: Also, a WIU alum, and I am not a fan of fraternities as a concept. They are by nature an exclusionary force, often deciding whether or not include somebody in your group based on spending a few minutes with them during a rush week, and of course there is also an exclusion based on pure economics, where people can’t afford to even considering pledging because of their financial situation. But they are different from campus to campus. Western, being a medium sized state school, the frats tended to be less insular in nature. Frat guys didn’t only hang with their brothers. A place like University of IL is so large that the whole fraternity thing becomes much more a source of cliques, where it seperates the student population.
    In praise of the DTD at WIU, back in the day they held one of the most fun annual University wide parties the Big Wheel Races. The house was located on top of a long hill, and people would race Big Wheels down it. Also, a good point about the difference in how the frat system worked there, everyone on campus was invited.

  121. 121.

    hamletta

    I’m in for one, but I’d rather have them for my church’s homeless ministry.

    It’s called “Room In the Inn,” and we take in a handful of guys for a night and make them a nice dinner, breakfast in the morning, and a sack lunch to go. I didn’t see anything similar in Wheeling, but I may not have been looking in the right place.

    I’d rather serve a handful of guys a really swanky dinner than have all that primo meat cut up and thrown into a stew to feed a horde. That’s what shred-meat and short ribs are for.

    My preference would be for crab meat, because I’m a Maryland girl, and I can make some crab cakes. But whatever.

  123. 123.

    John Cole

    Omnes and Tommy- you do understand that the founding house for Delta Tau Delta, and I am not exaggerating, 150 yards from my house. If that. If you look at that picture in wikipedia, to the left of the DTD house is my neighbor’s house. I am one house to the left of her and I have a clean line of sight to the DTD house.

    Small world.

  127. 127.

    satby

    I’ll be in on Friday (payday). And with most others, I also want the prize donated if I win. Great idea!

  128. 128.

    drew42

    @SIA: If the URL begins with https:// (instead of http://) and there are no warnings about an expired certificate, that means the credit card information you submit will be securely encrypted (recent revelations about the NSA notwithstanding).

    Depending on your browser, you’ll see a “padlock” icon either to the left or right of the address bar, and it should be closed/locked. Click the padlock to view the certificate information.

  129. 129.

    Hillary Rettig

    Such is JC’s credibility and persuasiveness that he can even convince veg*ns to enter a steak raffle! (Sarah in Brooklyn and me!)

    If I win, please donate the steaks, etc., to an animal shelter.

  132. 132.

    stinger

    Funds for John’s boys, steak for some homeless people — win/win. I foolishly didn’t check the URL for https, so if the (apparently non-functioning) site didn’t work AND my card info isn’t stolen, I’ll send a check per SiubhanDuinne’s suggestion at #70 above.

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    MLRjr

    I’m in…because Junior and Senior year I lived in a house that had AGR on the East and Sigma Nu on the West….and got up knowledgeable about nice guys versus entitled rapists!

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