Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

Dead end MAGA boomers crying about Talyor Swift being a Dem is my kind of music. Turn it up.

New McCarthy, same old McCarthyism.

with the Kraken taking a plea, the Cheese stands alone.

Shallow, uninformed, and lacking identity

We cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation.

Russian mouthpiece, go fuck yourself.

Elections aren’t won by handwringing, cowering, and/or bashing your own candidates.

Black Jesus loves a paper trail.

Celebrate the fucking wins.

if you can’t see it, then you are useless in the fight to stop it.

The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.

There are more Russians standing up to Putin than Republicans.

Every reporter and pundit should have to declare if they ever vacationed with a billionaire.

The lights are all blinking red.

It is possible to do the right thing without the promise of a cookie.

Bark louder, little dog.

The rest of the comments were smacking Boebert like she was a piñata.

The fight for our country is always worth it. ~Kamala Harris

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

Never entrust democracy to any process that requires Republicans to act in good faith.

If ‘weird’ was the finish line, they ran through the tape and kept running.

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

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Jon Chait, NYMag:

… Most of us expected, at some level, that the election would cool the right’s apocalyptic fervor. Instead, the opposite has occurred. Paul Ryan candidly explained the calculation: “The reason this debt limit fight is different is, we don’t have an election around the corner where we feel we are going to win and fix it ourselves. We are stuck with this government another three years.” This is a remarkable confession. Republicans need to compel Obama to accept their agenda, not in spite of the fact that the voters rejected it at the polls but precisely for that reason.

The exhaustion of electoral channels against Obama has spurred the party to seize power through non-electoral channels. Their opening demand that Obama sign Mitt Romney’s entire economic plan into law in return for avoiding a debt default, while historically bizarre, followed perfectly from their legislative strategy this year…

Their aversion to compromise has been accepted as settled fact in Washington, reimagined not only as a new normal but as the way it’s always been. Republican Dana Rohrabacher defended the use of debt-ceiling threats to pry concessions from Obama like so: “People have to recognize there’s never any compromise until the stakes are high. In our society, that’s the nature of democratic government.” That is completely false. American political parties have forged compromises for decades without high-stakes threats to bring them to the table. Not to mention the fact that, by “compromise,” Rohrabacher means unilateral concessions by the president…

The hostage dynamic of the debt-ceiling fight has created a dangerous, historically unusual set of circumstances. One aspect of it is to set up a precarious, high-stakes negotiation, the failure of which could set off large, immediate, and irreversible damage. The second is to reset the balance of power between the president and Congress, allowing the latter to compel the former to submit to its agenda without concessions. Both these changes would permanently and dangerously alter the character of American government….

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That being said, what’s on the agenda for the start of the weekend?

Reader Interactions

121Comments

  1. 1.

    Botsplainer

    Bill O’Reilly writes a book on Jesus.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/27/1241865/-Bill-O-Rielly-s-new-book-says-Jesus-died-to-free-the-Jews-from-taxation

    The basic argument of the book is that Jesus died because he interfered with the taxation-heavy Roman revenue stream. The reason the Jews eagerly anticipated the Messiah, writes O’Reilly, is, “When that moment arrives, Rome will be defeated and their lives will be free of taxation and want.”

  3. 3.

    srv

    Render unto Obama the things that are Obama’s.

    I, personally, am OK if a few dozen Republicans want to be crucified over that.

  4. 4.

    beltane

    @Botsplainer: This must be a different Jesus than the one who said “Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s”.

    They say that if you play the audio of O’Reilly’s book backwards, you will hear the actual Gospels in their entirety.

  5. 5.

    Violet

    I heard that Ted Cruz somehow messed up something about “Green Eggs and Ham”. I was too busy to follow the whole talkathon and haven’t had time to follow up. Can someone tell me what happened? Did it just read it wrong? Or did he misinterpret something?

  11. 11.

    Cacti

    I think it’s safe to call the GOP the 21st century Confederate party without fear of being hyperbolic.

    Last time a faction of government was willing to wreck the country because they didn’t get their way in an election?

    1860

  12. 12.

    fuckwit

    Republicans need to compel Obama to accept their agenda, not in spite of the fact that the voters rejected it at the polls but precisely for that reason.

    Is this is not treason? Cavuto wants to know, and it would be irresponsible not to speculate.

    They are deliberately attempting to undermine the legitimately-elected government of the United States of America, by anti-democratic means, and by force, if not by violence. So I don’t know if Treason is a stretch, or totally a legit description of what the are doing. At very least, seems to me they are in violaion of their oaths.

  13. 13.

    Anoniminous

    Obama’s said he’s not going to make concessions over the debt ceiling.

    Apparently Faux News are going brain-melt.

  15. 15.

    Hal

    I was listening to Tell Me More on NPR on the way to work today, and there is a Friday section called the Barbershop, which is a round table discussion with several guys. It’s the typical mix of conservatives, liberals, gay,.straight etc. Today’s guest was Michael Steele, so I had to force myself to not switch the channel, but at one point Steele pointed out how, wait for it, both sides look bad in this debate. The funny thing to me was the host who just drolls out “wow, what a surprise.” It almost sounded like one of those comments you think and just say out loud before you can help yourself.

    What killed me about this discussion was that the round table basically said Ted Cruz was going with what his constituents wanted, and Obama should have sold the Healthcare law much better. No discussion on how Ted Cruz is a verbal bomb throwing liar or the rampant racism and hysteria behind the rise of such a person, just oh well, he’s just going with what the voters want. Oh that Liberal NPR.

  16. 16.

    Davis X. Machina

    @Cacti:

    Tom Harkin thinks so.

    It’s dangerous. It’s very dangerous. I believe, Mr. President, we are at one of the most dangerous points in our history right now. Every bit as dangerous as the break-up of the Union before the Civil War.

  19. 19.

    Sly

    Most of us expected, at some level, that the election would cool the right’s apocalyptic fervor.

    And then there are the rest of us who are not taking hallucinogenic drugs.

  20. 20.

    Cacti

    @fuckwit:

    Frightening but absolutely true. And, I suspect, for a lot of the same reasons too. BLACKITY BLACKITY BLACK!!!

    And they’re pretty much from the same group of states that tried to wreck it the first time around.

  22. 22.

    Hal

    @Violet:

    I like what slate said about Cruz’ reading and the law as a whole, which I 1000% agree with.

    Conservatives like Cruz claim that this is wrong. That Americans will taste the green eggs and ham and they’re going to hate it. But their actions speak otherwise. They’re desperate to repeal the law before it’s implemented. And in terms of the 2012 elections, that was fair enough. But they lost in 2012. Now instead of acting like they’re confident that the voter backlash to the green eggs and ham will power them to victories in 2014 and 2016, they’re engaging in flailing desperate tactics to make sure nobody tries the green eggs and ham. Because deep down they fear that Dr. Seuss was right.

    Conservatives are petrified the law as a whole will work, and that will completely negate the gubmint is all bad mantra they’ve been running on for decades.

  23. 23.

    piratedan

    wonder what the Dem Ultimatum list would be…..

    Fully funded CCPA (Consumer Credit Protection Agency sic) until 2025
    Expansion of SEC to authorize more auditors and prosecutors
    Approval of all remaining Obama appointments that have already passed thru their individual subcommittees
    tax rate of 50% for all income past the 2M threshold
    End of corporate tax subsidies for Energy and Agribusiness Conglomerates
    Reduction of Student Loans to a standard 3% for undergraduate and 5% for advanced degrees
    National gun registry and stardardized clip/ammo laws to no more than ten per clip, strengthened checklists and cross reference to violent crimes and mental health issues
    Restored government funding for planned parenthood
    standardized science curriculum that recognizes climate change and evolution as fact.
    Restoration of SNAP to 2012 levels
    Restore sequestered cuts
    Resignation of SC Justices, Alito, Scalia and Thomas.

    If you’re gonna play hardball and give up something, you best get something in return

  26. 26.

    Chris

    @Violet:

    Seriously? He missed that? What an idiot.

    His people also tend to miss some key points in the New Testament, the Constitution, and The Wealth Of Nations. So, you know, par for the course.

  27. 27.

    lamh36

    Sup guys.

    So I was on FB yesterday right before going into the bowling alley for my league and I just happened to read this post from my friend He has linked to a comment from some dude about his insurance company cancelling his policy and about his premiums going up. So I just half-read the comment, but once it called POTUS “our fearless leader” and then read the comments in response to it, which were all the same anti-Obama “fearless leader” crap, I told my friend that he needs to start paying attention to the comments on post like that one he posted as a heads up to the fact that maybe the post is not legit and is just another way opponents of the system to muddy the waters on the ACA so that people will be more likely to not trust the system and therefore be more likely to not be able to see the benefits.

    More of his friends posted more comments, basically selfish ass, “I got mine” type of bull, so I gave up on them and decided to post the following to my FB page along with the pic.

    I know I post alot of needless, useless pop culture information on my FB…lol. But occasionally I do post things that are meant to be informative and gives important information. For the past week, at least, I have been posting link to some non-partisan sties and a few partisan sites about the upcoming implementation of the new Affordable Care Adt or “Obamacare”. Why? So that people I know can make informed decisions about the new law and not rely on “he said/she said”, “well I heard”, or whatever the latest conspiracy theorist or chain letter email you receive from your “crazy relative” or what “this dude” you know says. Ignorance is spread when people who know better just let incorrect information stand without being challenged. I’m keep on posting my links. At the very least, I don’t need it to be said that I didn’t try to make sure that my peeps didn’t have as much of the cold hard facts as anyone else!!!

    Excusssse Me!

  28. 28.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Obs, Jesus was a proto-Randian

    Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go and sell all you have and give the money to the poor, and you will have riches in heaven; then come and follow me.”

  30. 30.

    Chris

    @Botsplainer:

    The reason the Jews eagerly anticipated the Messiah, writes O’Reilly, is, “When that moment arrives, Rome will be defeated and their lives will be free of taxation and want.”

    … Right…

    … people expected the messiah to be a political leader, a king, and were surprised when he turned out to be preaching a much simpler message than politics. “Love your god, and love one another.” And that he simply went around helping people instead of starting a revolution.

    SO… is Bill O’Reilly saying we should worship the Jesus who was expected rather than the Jesus we actually got? Actually, that kind of seems like their theology in a nutshell.

  31. 31.

    Kay (not the front-pager)

    @fuckwit: They are attempting a coup against a duly elected, sitting President. It’s that simple. President Obama is being forced to choose between 2 conflicting duties: his 14th amendment duty to see that government bills are paid, and his statutory duty to request permission from Congress to raise funds. I think he is telegraphing as clearly as he can that he will choose his constitutional duty over his statutory duty. Let the Supreme Court decide. I can’t wait to see how Scalia, Thomas and Alito contort themselves to express their hatred on that one…

  32. 32.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @dmsilev: I gather Randians have convinced themselves that Les Miserables is an objectivist tome because at one point Jean Valjean owns a factory. Job creator!

  33. 33.

    Baud

    The party that brought you the war of choice is about to unveil their next act — the economic calamity of choice.

  36. 36.

    Amir Khalid

    I know Slate isn’t highly regarded around these parts. I still read it only for Emily Lithwick and Emily Bazelon, whose analyses of American legal and constitutional issues are the best thing about the place.

    Alas, Slate has just redesigned its front page. It’s a complete mess now, and I can’t find anything.

  37. 37.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Greg Sargent ‏@ ThePlumLineGS 1h
    Intriguing new GOP talking point: Obama finds it easier to negotiate with Iranians than with us. #GoodOne
    Michael Tomasky ‏@ mtomasky 2h
    You’d think they’d be ashamed to admit that.

  38. 38.

    PhoenixRising

    Well, my new oncologist has the power to get labs read same-day, and they were clear. At the same hour, the review copies of the bookstore/library edition of my new book arrived at my office.

    So I’m pretty sure drinking is going to be involved in my plans.

  41. 41.

    danielx

    God doesn’t love me this much.

    Oh please please please let Ted Cruz be the Republican standard bearer in 2016.

    It’s what I expected anyway. My man Ted doesn’t give a fiddler’s fuck about being a senator, and he cares even less about policy and legislation. He figures that if Obama could run after one term as a senator and win, why can’t he?

    To which the response is, of course: because Obama a) had and has a gift for rhetoric that goes beyond preaching to the party faithful, and b) wasn’t an obvious roaring, flaming asshole.

    Note: there is no irritability like the irritability of a cat who couldn’t eat after 9 last night because of getting anesthetized for teeth cleaning today and who isn’t permitted to eat until tomorrow because of that anesthesia. Zoey the Menace is pissed.

  43. 43.

    Mnemosyne

    Enjoying my new car and thinking of fun places to drive this weekend. Unfortunately, this being Southern California, “drive” usually means “sit in traffic behind a 2-ton truck.”

    Also kind of amazed by all of the bells and whistles in new cars (mine was a 1998). It has a USB port! And Bluetooth! And more than two airbags! And a built-in alarm!

  45. 45.

    MattF

    @Amir Khalid: I agree that the Slate redesign is a hot mess. Are they trying to win some contest on many different fonts can you use on a single site? Confusing, confused, slow to load. Bah and ugh.

  50. 50.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @IowaOldLady: I agree, Harkin is a loss for the country, but I have a hard time second-guessing an eighty year old who wants to retire.

    @MattF: and a pop up ad to tell you that they’ve redesigned the site! Brilliant! Slate publishes a lot of crap, but they have some good stuff too. As his ilk goes, Dickerson is pretty good, and Dave Weigel to me is like Josh Barro, if you take a grain of sald for his glibertarian proclivities when you start reading, he’s not bad.

  51. 51.

    Suffern ACE

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: what he meant was “give the appearance if doing that for tax purposes by using fake tax exempt organizations that pay your relations huge salaries and hide the rest in Swiss Bank accounts”.

  53. 53.

    Ash Can

    @PhoenixRising: Hooray for good news!

    @Mnemosyne: Are you anywhere near Mulholland Drive, the Pacific Coast Highway, or Palos Verdes Drive? Those were three of our favorite Southern CA drives when the boyz and I were in CA last month.

  54. 54.

    Violet

    @JPL: I don’t know. I thought he was reading it to his kids as a bedtime story to something. I’ve been so busy, I’ve only caught bits and pieces of the news.

  55. 55.

    WereBear

    @Hal: Conservatives are petrified the law as a whole will work, and that will completely negate the gubmint is all bad mantra they’ve been running on for decades.

    It will and it will.

    And then it will ruin them.

  56. 56.

    Elizabelle

    Anybody know what happened to “Dance Around in your Bones”?

    She has not been around for a long time, at least on threads I read.

  57. 57.

    Mnemosyne

    @Ash Can:

    We may be leaning towards PCH. I’m not quite confident enough yet for Mulholland and I really don’t want to be one of those ironic “woman accidentally drives brand new car off cliff” stories.

  58. 58.

    Suffern ACE

    @Chris: and conveniently, the one they pretend to have a personal relationship with is the best friend who tells them that their anti tax theology is just swell.

  59. 59.

    OzarkHillbilly

    what’s on the agenda for the start of the weekend?

    Well, I’ve got a date with a .38 cause the wing nuts are…. well… wingnuts. And I am tired. And I don’t see how this ends well.

  60. 60.

    PsiFighter37

    Fuck the GOP. Seriously, I feel like they’ve gotten even crazier in the past few weeks.

    Can we even figure out what peak wingnut means anymore?

  62. 62.

    Amir Khalid

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
    Unlike the Republicans, the Iranians really do mean to negotiate, rather than to demand that Obama concede everything up front. It’s not that they don’t understand this, the Republican party; it’s just that, being hostage to an unreasoning party base, they have no leeway themselves to make any concessions. So they must count on Obama being stupid or spineless enough to give away a winning position.

  66. 66.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Alex Pareene meets Maria Bariromo, in re Jamie Dimon.

    Pareene: “I could do just as well at ignoring the London whale”

    The CEO-worship and condescension to Pareene is unbelievable
    “It would serve us right if someone as obviously brilliant as Jamie Dimon left the greatest bank in the world”
    FoxNews can’t be much worse than this.
    ETA: they ask Pareene if he has any evidence of corruption at JPMC, and he points to a report of nepotism and hiring children of govt officials was in the NYT
    Bartiromo, with sarcasm: “Oh! The New York TImes!”

  70. 70.

    Mnemosyne

    @WereBear:

    I still feel a little weird about it because I was able to afford a new car thanks to some of the life insurance money I got after my dad passed. On the other hand, it’s not like I ran out and bought a Mercedes. I got a nice, safe, sensible Subaru that I’ll probably drive for another 15 years.

  72. 72.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @schrodinger’s cat: No idea. A quick google search tells me CNBC’s ratings are at a twenty year low. I haven’t watched them since the tech bubble burst, but I see around the internets that she’s a hard core GOOPer. She and her fellow travellers are one of the reasons (after Tom Brokaw and Brian Williams) that I chuckle whenever I see wingnuts whine about MSNBC, who give Gingrichite Scarborough three times the airtime they give kindly Doc Maddow or the mild mannered Mr Hayes.

  73. 73.

    ruemara

    @PhoenixRising: MANY YAYS!

    I’m striving to focus on the volunteer project I was volunteered for. But I’m tired, I’m stress as heck, I have an article coming due and not enough to cover all the bills. I want to curl up with books, kittens, bad tv and warm coffee.

  74. 74.

    PhoenixRising

    Thanks, everybody.

    In addition to these blessings, my kid got her new hearing aids fitted and talked to me on the phone for almost 10 minutes. For the first time in her life. She’s almost 14.

    Also while I was getting blood pulled, Lambda apparently bagged NJ. 14 states down. It’s hard to recall that when I was sitting in meetings to organize a DP registry (closed this week, as even the liberal Berkeley, CA no longer needs one) marriage was impossible, now that it’s inevitable.

    @IowaOldLady: Nope. All those things are good. Needing care transferred to new oncologist=treatment outlasted old doc’s career. The cancer I got isn’t cured after 5 years, it’s the kind that’s now treatable indefinitely. Never been a better time to have it!

    And of course: if you ain’t seen my book yet…linky in my pseudonym.

  80. 80.

    CarolDuhart2

    What a way to negotiate, Obama has nothing to lose anymore, and they aren’t giving him anything even close to what he would have to give up.

    He’s probably laughing at the ransom note right now.

  81. 81.

    evodevo

    @Botsplainer:

    Wellll, actually he’s right, at least according to the little smidgeons of history that can be extracted from the overwhelmingly tendentious and legend-filled Gospels, and from Josephus’ accounts of the period. That said, I haven’t read the book, and probably wouldn’t find much else there to laud. Most Christians and even atheists are totally ignorant of the well-known contentions of biblical scholars/critics accumulated over the last 200 years. Makes for fascinating reading. Try Carmichael’s Unriddling of Christian Origins, or Bart Ehrman’s Jesus Interrupted for good overviews.

  83. 83.

    MomSense

    @Mnemosyne:

    Still driving my safe, sensible Subaru 15 years later! I love it. It isn’t as pretty as it once was but it still goes everywhere in all road conditions!

    Love Isn’t it Romantic!

    I think at some point you have to liveblog a movie so we can all watch together.

  86. 86.

    MomSense

    @PhoenixRising:

    Happy, happy, happy to hear all your good news.

    Ok, BJers I am running off to a concert and I’m going to let my hair down for a few hours because I have to work all weekend.

  89. 89.

    Elizabelle

    @PhoenixRising:

    That is beyond wonderful.

    I hope there are only good things for PhoenixKid to hear.

    And very glad about New Jersey news today, too.

    Would Chris Christie really appeal this? Is it in his longterm best interest? I think not.

  90. 90.

    Villago Delenda Est

    My recommendation to President Obama is to unleash SEAL Team 6 on these terrorists, with very liberal rules of engagement.

  91. 91.

    Mnemosyne

    @WereBear:

    That’s what G keeps saying, and he’s probably right. I would have caught a lot of crap if I’d bought a hybrid, though, since my dad was a daily Rush listener. :-p

    @MomSense:

    I think at some point you have to liveblog a movie so we can all watch together.

    Interesting idea! It would definitely need to be on a weekend or holiday since we all have jobs. I’ll add it to my ideas list.

    @gogol’s wife:

    I had to Google the lyrics because I have trouble with French accents sometimes. Luckily, LorenzHart.org had the original lyrics. I don’t remember Ella singing the line about her future spouse scrubbing her back in the shower, but maybe I wasn’t paying attention!

  92. 92.

    Yatsuno

    @Mnemosyne: PCH definitely. I’ll go that way intentionall from LA to San Diego if I can. It’s such a fantastic drive. It ends just 80 miles west of me you know. Just watch for the sparkly people.

    You stuck a song in my brain. Also. Too. One of those rare ones where I like both versions. But Kenny has Grace, so therefore winning.

  93. 93.

    Mnemosyne

    @Yatsuno:

    Well, one time in my much-missed Celica I started heading home after a movie and ended up at Hearst Castle, so who knows? ;-) Though I suppose these days I have a spouse who would start to worry if I called from the road and said I was 300 miles away.

  94. 94.

    CarolDuhart2

    @Elizabelle: Appropriate. I’ve seen drunks make more sensible demands and more equitable ones as well. It’s a product of at least one drunken, desperate Boner trying to cobble together his own caucus.

    Which is what you should do before presenting your demands.
    Which is another reason Obama is laughing. He knows they are not capable of a real negotiation because they can’t agree on what they want and are trying to also get him to capitulate. Since when has that really happened, and why should it happen now?

  95. 95.

    TAPX486

    I think we have gone past the point of no return in being a world class country. Dick Gregory thinks it would be an acceptable compromise to pass a clean CR to keep the government open and then fight to the death on the debt limit. Does he really understand what the heck is talking about (that is a rhetorical question folks).

    Tweetie was letting a GOP critter lie like a rug and never called him on it. According the GOPER Obamacare was jammed down the throats of Congress with no hearings and no chance to debate the bill. This is a standard GOP talking point and it depends on the media not discussing the history of the health care debate in the 2008 primaries and general election, the 10 or more months that it was the lead story on cable, the gang of 6 or 8 or whatever the number was and the Romney pledge in the 2012 election to repeal the act. Barack, Nancy and Harry just snuck the bill past Congress and the American people in the dead of night.

  96. 96.

    Mnemosyne

    @danielx:

    Our vet now offers anesthesia-free teeth cleaning — you should ask and see if yours does. Two of our cats are good candidates for it, but the third isn’t given that one of her many nicknames is “Miss Bitey.”

  97. 97.

    Suffern ACE

    @CarolDuhart2: nope. They basically want him to give them Romney’s platform and cede regulation authority making to a Congress that can’t even pass one bill so that in two weeks they can demand he privatize Medicare. All so that next September they can demand more? And as they demonstrated before, even if he agreed, Cantor would show up, preen for the cameras and insult him.

    I think the government shutdown will last until November 5. I wish my government worker friends well.

  99. 99.

    gogol's wife

    @Mnemosyne:

    No, Maurice sings a lot of lyrics that nobody else does.

    I got the original sheet music on eBay, so I have his face leering out at me from the piano.

  101. 101.

    Raven OnTheHill

    To put it the health care discussion in perspective, I asked a checker at my local super-mini-market what his health care plans were. He didn’t even know if he had insurance through his employer! Ah, youth.

    On the other hand, the IPCC released “The Working Group I (WGI) contribution to the IPCC Fifth Assessment Report,” which “provides a comprehensive assessment of the physical science basis of climate change in 14 chapters, supported by a number of annexes and supplementary material.” A nice summary is available at RealClimate.

  102. 102.

    CaseyL

    I hope, oh how I hope, Obama has the NSA listening in on every one of those GOP lickspittles. Let one of them opine about how great it’ll be when they bring down the economy and the country in order to oppose Obama, and how the country will then rise up in open revolt.

    Then send the whole barking mad lot of them off to Gitmo.

  105. 105.

    Dedc79

    There was always the kid growing up whow would react to losing a soccer/baseball/football/basketball game by taking the only ball and going home. One of our two major political parties is that kid and the game is our ****ING economy

  107. 107.

    Mnemosyne

    @gogol’s wife:

    He sings the show’s lyrics in character, but I don’t think those are the ones that are part of the “standard” (as in “song standards”) version. The show lyrics are a hoot:

    Kiddies are romantic
    and if we don’t fight we soon will have a troupe.
    We’ll help the population,
    it’s a duty that we owe to dear old France.
    Isn’t it romance?

  109. 109.

    Ksmiami

    When the Iranians sound more cogent than you do maybe it’s time to give it up. I friggin hate the GOP traitors

  111. 111.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Hal: They air it from 8:00-9:00 p.m. on my local NPR station, so I just finished hearing it. My reaction was the same. Nice Polite Republicans (and just in time for the Fall Pledge Drive, too!)

  113. 113.

    Rob in Buffalo

    If what the Republicans are doing now isn’t grounds for impeachment I don’t know what would be.

  114. 114.

    jharp

    Dad’s weekend at my son’s college.

    Tailgating and taking in the football game.

    Does not get any better.

  116. 116.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Elizabelle: Mind meld, I was just wondering about her myself and half-preparing to ask the question.

    Dance, if you and your bones are around and happen to see this thread, do please wave hello.

  119. 119.

    sm*t cl*de

    “People have to recognize there’s never any compromise until the stakes are high. In our society, that’s the nature of democratic government.”

    This probably sounded better in the original Pashtun.

    Rohrabacher et al, with their Keyser Sose act and their “We-want-the-world-and-we-want-it-NOW” lists of demands, are not making it easier for your media courtiers to present them as reasonable partners for negotiation. It is all the other side’s fault for stubbornly refusing to give them a few face-saving concessions? Yeah right.

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