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You are here: Home / Politics / Domestic Politics / President Obama’s Statement

President Obama’s Statement

by Betty Cracker|  October 17, 201310:39 am| 135 Comments

This post is in: Domestic Politics, Open Threads

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You can watch it live here.

ETA 1:
Yay! He’s calling bullshit on the Republicans for manufacturing crises! Pointed out that shutdown was costly and damaging. Pointed out that deficits were already falling. “The only thing putting us at risk is repeated brinksmanship” — quote from credit analysts.

ETA 2:
“To all my friends in Congress, the way we do business has to change.”

“We need to stop focusing on lobbyists, bloggers [WTF?!?!–ed.], activists on talk radio, and do what we were sent here to do…that’s why we’re here.”

ETA 3:
Three things we should focus on:

1) Balanced approach to a responsible budget — “budget shouldn’t be an ideological exercise…deficit is getting smaller, not bigger now…need to close corporate tax loopholes and invest in education, research, infrastructure…”

2) Finish the job of fixing our broken immigration system — “broad coalition behind reform…Senate has a bill with strong bipartisan support…if the House has ideas on how to improve it, let’s hear them…”

3) Pass a farm bill — “One that farmers and ranchers can depend on…one that helps vulnerable children…Senate has passed bipartisan bill…if House has ideas to improve it, let’s see them…”

ETA 4:
“I hope all of us have learned that smart, effective governance is important…Americans got an idea of what government does…we’ve heard ‘government is the problem,’ but we’ve learned we rely on it in many ways…”

ETA 5:
“Don’t treat government like the enemy or make it work worse. If you don’t like a policy — or a president, win an election. Don’t break it.”

Message to returning government workers: “Thanks for your service. What you do is important. It matters…”

ETA 6:
That’s all, folks. Very strong statement that put the blame squarely where it belongs, thanked those who deserve it and called out the saboteurs.

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  1. 1.

    hildebrand

    October 17, 2013 at 10:42 am

    I want him to reenact my two favorite movie scenes of this whole shut-down mess – Godfather II’s “here is my offer”, and Willy Wonka’s “You get nothing!”

  2. 2.

    dmsilev

    October 17, 2013 at 10:42 am

    I suppose it’s too much to ask that just this once, Hail to the Chief be replaced by Queen’s We Are The Champions.

  3. 3.

    John O

    October 17, 2013 at 10:44 am

    He won’t do a little Irish jig, clap his hands, and say, “Eat it, bitchez.” Like I wish he would just for yuks.

    So I suspect it will be boring and un-newsworthy.

  4. 4.

    mai naem

    October 17, 2013 at 10:45 am

    I hope this gave Obama and the rest of the Dems some reiinforcement learning that they can indeed win against the Repubs in hegotiations and I really hope,no, pray that the Wingnuts got a little scared so that they’ll actually negotiate in good faith next time around.

  5. 5.

    Betty Cracker

    October 17, 2013 at 10:45 am

    He’ll be the grown-up, as always. We have to have at least ONE.

  6. 6.

    dmsilev

    October 17, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Funny

    Vice President Joe Biden showed up at the Environmental Protection Agency’s headquarters bearing muffins Thursday morning, and greeted employees as they returned to work after the 16-day government shutdown.

    “I brought some muffins!” Biden said when he arrived, placing few containers of “Coffee Cake Bites” on the EPA security desk, per a White House pool report.

    The vice president spotted a sign on the desk that read, “All visitors must be escorted at all times.” Biden announced: “I’d like to be escorted!”

  7. 7.

    gogol's wife

    October 17, 2013 at 10:48 am

    @dmsilev:

    I love him!

  8. 8.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Live feed: in background, portrait of Abraham Lincoln, seated, head on hand, looking pensive.

    Thinking: “I thought we beat these weasels once already. How many times does it take?”

  9. 9.

    Xantar

    October 17, 2013 at 10:50 am

    There’s still time for Obama to cave!!

  10. 10.

    Napoleon

    October 17, 2013 at 10:52 am

    I am not watching it, but has Ari Shapiro interupted him yet to tell him to change his language to something more acceptable to NPR?

  11. 11.

    John O

    October 17, 2013 at 10:52 am

    @dmsilev:

    The man cracks me up. I find his goofy sincerity genuine and endearing.

  12. 12.

    Botsplainer

    October 17, 2013 at 10:52 am

    “‘S’cuse me while I whip this out” as he reaches down to take a scroll out of his waistband is all I want to hear.

  13. 13.

    gogol's wife

    October 17, 2013 at 10:54 am

    @Napoleon:

    What are you referring to?

  14. 14.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 10:56 am

    @dmsilev:

    I love VP Joe. Funny.

  15. 15.

    dmsilev

    October 17, 2013 at 10:57 am

    @gogol’s wife: The reporter in question threw a hissy fit at a White House press briefing because the press secretary used the word ‘ransom’ to describe what the Republicans were asking for.

    Never mind that it was an accurate word.

    Crowd noise just quieted down, so Obama should be showing up soon.

  16. 16.

    NotMax

    October 17, 2013 at 10:59 am

    @gogol’s wife

    Jay Carney used a word (“hostage,” IIRC) and the reporter said something akin to “Could you use another term? That one doesn’t fit our narrative.”

  17. 17.

    Dr. Loveless

    October 17, 2013 at 10:59 am

    I just want someone in the WHPC to ask him, “Mr. President, what is best in life?”

  18. 18.

    JPL

    October 17, 2013 at 11:00 am

    @Elizabelle: The President will act in his usual bipartisan nature but maybe, he’ll unleash Biden to say what needs to be said about the shutdown. The repubs cost the economy 24 billion and will blame the slowdown on the President. They need to squished like the ants that they are.

  19. 19.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:00 am

    I like seeing the press corpse just sitting there, like kids in a time out.

    ETA: Good on Obama for making them wait.

    PBO arrives.

  20. 20.

    Napoleon

    October 17, 2013 at 11:01 am

    @gogol’s wife:

    See this

    washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/10/10/white-house-faces-an-insurrection-over-metaphor…

  21. 21.

    dmsilev

    October 17, 2013 at 11:01 am

    “Democrats and responsible Republicans came together”. Never mind the _other_ Republicans…

  22. 22.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:01 am

    @Dr. Loveless:

    Inside joke? What’s reference?

  23. 23.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:03 am

    “Increased our borrowing costs, which adds to our deficit.”

    Good. He’s back in paint by number mode. As his audience deserves.

    “There was no economic rationale for this ….. and our deficits were cut in half.”

  24. 24.

    JPL

    October 17, 2013 at 11:03 am

    @JPL: He’s not acting in his usual bipartisan nature, so I correct my comment.

  25. 25.

    dmsilev

    October 17, 2013 at 11:04 am

    @Elizabelle: It’s from the film _Conan the Barbarian_:

    Khitan General: My fear is that my sons will never understand me… Hao! Dai ye! We won again! [Cheers] This is good. But what is best in life?
    Khitan Warrior: The open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
    Khitan General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
    Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!
    Khitan General: [Cheers]…That is good.

  26. 26.

    The Dangerman

    October 17, 2013 at 11:04 am

    Seems a little PO’d this morning; did they give him decaf (evil personified) or something?

  27. 27.

    Botsplainer

    October 17, 2013 at 11:05 am

    @Dr. Loveless:

    To crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of their women…

  28. 28.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:05 am

    “Repeated brinksmanship. That’s what the credit ratings agency said…..

    that also happens to be the opinion of our diplomats [who are talking to people internationally]

    now talking about “spectacle” on display these past several weeks.

    Bring it!

  29. 29.

    Frankensteinbeck

    October 17, 2013 at 11:06 am

    @Xantar:
    We only got a couple of ‘Obama Caves’ idiots this time. While I’m impressed at the power of narratives built out of dozens of debunked accusations, I think this one is dead and we can ignore the odd troglodyte who’s been locked in his cave the last five years.

  30. 30.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:06 am

    @dmsilev:

    Thank you. Had seen quip a few times.

    PBO looks like a badly disappointed dad, who wonders if his kids are up to understanding his point.

  31. 31.

    dmsilev

    October 17, 2013 at 11:07 am

    ‘Stop focusing on the lobbyists and the bloggers…’

    Sob! Doesn’t he love us anymore?

  32. 32.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:07 am

    “professional activists who profit from conflict”

    yea! they wuz called out. Maybe bloggers too.

  33. 33.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:08 am

    glad he called out people who accuse others of not loving their country …

  34. 34.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:09 am

    First up: negotiate over a budget. And not approach as an ideological exercise.

    Reminds us again the deficit is down, half of what it was, and down fastest in 50 years.

    Challenge is not short-term deficits but longterm — like social security and medicare ….

    talks about closing corporate loopholes. Yess!

  35. 35.

    John O

    October 17, 2013 at 11:10 am

    Happily edgier than I thought it would be. He’s doing fine-to-great, as usual.

  36. 36.

    dmsilev

    October 17, 2013 at 11:10 am

    “Close corporate tax loopholes, free up resources for infrastructure and research”.

  37. 37.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:11 am

    second: fix our broken immigration system.

    Knew that was coming.

  38. 38.

    dmsilev

    October 17, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Coming up next, immigration reform. Passed the Senate, currently languishing in the House.

  39. 39.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:13 am

    number three: we should pass a farm bill

    ETA: “what are we waiting for? Let’s get this done”

    By the end of the year. If our focus is on what’s good for the American people

  40. 40.

    dmsilev

    October 17, 2013 at 11:13 am

    Priority the third, a farm bill that doesn’t gut food stamps. Again, passed the Senate and is sitting in the House.

  41. 41.

    Comrade Mary

    October 17, 2013 at 11:14 am

    @dmsilev:

    Never mind that it was an accurate word.

    Also, too, never mind that Republicans like Mitch McConnell had already described what they learned from their 2011 attempt in these exact words:

    “I think some of our members may have thought the default issue was a hostage you might take a chance at shooting,” he said. “Most of us didn’t think that. What we did learn is this — it’s a hostage that’s worth ransoming. And it focuses the Congress on something that must be done.”

  42. 42.

    The Dangerman

    October 17, 2013 at 11:15 am

    House, meet woodshed.

  43. 43.

    gelfling545

    October 17, 2013 at 11:16 am

    @The Dangerman: The man probably hasn’t had any sleep in a month or more. Caffeine will only get you so far.

  44. 44.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:16 am

    We shouldn’t hold back on areas where we could or should agree just because of politics.

    There’s no reason we can’t govern responsibly … without lurching from manufactured crisis to manufactured crisis

    now a shoutout to govt: it matters.

    It turns out we rely on it in a lot of ways.

  45. 45.

    John O

    October 17, 2013 at 11:17 am

    He’s having his way with the House of Representatives. I can hear wingnut heads exploding already.

  46. 46.

    Frankensteinbeck

    October 17, 2013 at 11:17 am

    I don’t see any real chance that any of this stuff will pass the House. I doubt Boehner will bring them to a vote. The only thing that has changed is that next time the Teabaggers demand a shutdown and default, Boehner and the coward caucus may – may – have learned to ignore them.

    Still, it’s the president’s job to constantly remind us of what the country needs under these bizarre circumstances.

  47. 47.

    Mike E

    October 17, 2013 at 11:17 am

    @mai naem: I hope these TEAfuckers go Full Mental Jackass all the way up to Feb, only to be thwarted by, wait for it, The Super Bowl. Idjits.

  48. 48.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:17 am

    @The Dangerman:

    woodshed, when some of them deserve a cell

    will leave it to you whether’s it’s padded or just barred

  49. 49.

    different-church-lady

    October 17, 2013 at 11:18 am

    I can hardly wait to read about how he won this showdown all wrong.

  50. 50.

    dmsilev

    October 17, 2013 at 11:18 am

    ‘Don’t like a particular President? Go out there and win an election’

    Somewhere, Mitt Romney is crying leaking lubrication fluid.

  51. 51.

    aimai

    October 17, 2013 at 11:18 am

    @dmsilev: That guy has so much fun it ought to be illegal. If they listened to me at all they would absolutely tape Biden’s emories of these standoffs and sell them to us at Christmas time. I bet he is hysterical and can do incredible imitations of all the major players. Every time the Republicans assured themselves that Obama was biting his knuckles and crying over the tension in the Oval office I bet he and Biden were kicking back and joking about it.

  52. 52.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:18 am

    Don’t break what we’ve spent two centuries building.

    That’s not what this country is about.

  53. 53.

    kindness

    October 17, 2013 at 11:19 am

    So what that linky says is that Obama hates bloggers?

  54. 54.

    Sloegin

    October 17, 2013 at 11:19 am

    Sequester is still in place, budget is still at Ryan levels; there’s a hell of a ways to go before calling this a win. Calling it a win cements the Rs gains.

    @Napoleon – Screw NPR. Waaaah, we can’t use such a controversial word, even if it’s the only accurate one. I’m still mad at when they decided they couldn’t use the word ‘torture’.

  55. 55.

    different-church-lady

    October 17, 2013 at 11:20 am

    Apparently the GOP learned one lesson since 1995: this time they waited until after he was reelected to shut down the government.

    Maybe this time they’ll wait until after the mid-terms to impeach him.

  56. 56.

    Anya

    October 17, 2013 at 11:20 am

    @Xantar: My cousin informs me that he’s worse than Bush on drones, immigration (deporter in-chief), civil liberty and she believes he personally ordered the Brits to detain GG’s partner. I give her a break because she’s 22 years old. Though, I was never that clueless when I was 22.

  57. 57.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:20 am

    and now a hug to government workers, especially the young, who come to this city to serve.

    Excellent, excellent speech.

  58. 58.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:20 am

    and now a hug to government workers, especially the young, who come to this city to serve.

    Excellent, excellent speech.

  59. 59.

    aimai

    October 17, 2013 at 11:20 am

    @Botsplainer: Heh. I posted that video this morning.

  60. 60.

    dmsilev

    October 17, 2013 at 11:21 am

    Closes by quoting the Pledge (‘One Nation, under God, with Liberty and Justice for All’) and walks off.

  61. 61.

    Mike in NC

    October 17, 2013 at 11:22 am

    I’d hoped the president would end with a Reagan-esque comment, such as: “I’ve just signed legislation outlawing the Republican Party forever. We begin bombing in five minutes.”

  62. 62.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:22 am

    That is one great president.

    It’s appalling he needs to turn out to say this. Teenage wasteland in the House of Representatives.

    (Apologies to actual teens, who aspire to grow up one of these days.)

  63. 63.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:24 am

    @kindness:

    he did call out bloggers, but I suspect those in thrall to the red state crowd.

  64. 64.

    Roger Moore

    October 17, 2013 at 11:24 am

    @Dr. Loveless:
    Speaking as a Californian, I can tell you that I don’t want people in charge channeling their inner Conan the Barbarian. I’ve had far more than enough of that already, TYVM.

  65. 65.

    Mike E

    October 17, 2013 at 11:26 am

    @aimai: I hear the new microbrews are particularly tasty.

  66. 66.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Fleeing C-Span. It’s got the Fix the Debt zombies up.

    C-Span 3 has Democratic Governor Steve Beshear, who did a great job with Kentucky’s health exchanges.

    Nice Kentucky has a realist or two in office.

  67. 67.

    gogol's wife

    October 17, 2013 at 11:27 am

    @Napoleon:

    Thanks. The comments are very good.

  68. 68.

    JPL

    October 17, 2013 at 11:28 am

    How soon before the whackos complain about the President’s partisan speech?

  69. 69.

    Joey Maloney

    October 17, 2013 at 11:28 am

    @Elizabelle:

    woodshed, when some of them deserve a cell

    will leave it to you whether’s it’s padded or just barred

    Sealed. Airtight. WIth a chair. And under the chair is a bowl and a small capsule that will drop into it…

    As long as those fucks are around, they’ll be causing trouble. For all of Obama’s strong and uplifting language, tomorrow it’ll be back to business as usual, with the House as attractive and productive as a severely impacted colon.

  70. 70.

    Roger Moore

    October 17, 2013 at 11:28 am

    @dmsilev:

    Never mind that it was an accurate word.

    That’s what’s so terrible about it. If we start describing what the Republicans are doing accurately, it will be obvious that there’s a right side and a wrong side, and the whole both sides do it, report the horserace narrative will go kaplooey.

  71. 71.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:29 am

    Excellent recap of speech’s major points, Betty.

  72. 72.

    cckids

    October 17, 2013 at 11:31 am

    @aimai:

    That guy has so much fun it ought to be illegal. If they listened to me at all they would absolutely tape Biden’s emories of these standoffs and sell them to us at Christmas time

    For anyone who does Facebook, try “Motivational Biden”. It is hysterical. I enjoy sending them to my wingnut relatives.

  73. 73.

    catclub

    October 17, 2013 at 11:33 am

    @different-church-lady: Um, it occurred in Dec 1998, also after the midterms.

  74. 74.

    catclub

    October 17, 2013 at 11:35 am

    @Elizabelle: ” It’s got the Fix the Debt zombies up.”

    oy.

  75. 75.

    Cermet

    October 17, 2013 at 11:35 am

    Did we, the believers that facts are what reality is all about, do good voting this smart guy into office? Yes, we did good!

    Congratulations for all of us that voted this man into office! In President Obama we trust … uh, at least for now … later, maybe not so much … .

  76. 76.

    raven

    October 17, 2013 at 11:37 am

    Tweety is raging against the confederates!

  77. 77.

    dogwood

    October 17, 2013 at 11:38 am

    Thought it was interesting to read today that it was the “caver in chief”, Obama, who nixed the Susan Collins deal in the Senate. Several Dems had signed o to it and Reid was serious about it. The White House basically said – ” no fucking way.”

  78. 78.

    Another Botsplainer

    October 17, 2013 at 11:39 am

    @raven: As per my usual, but what does Pat Lang think ?

  79. 79.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:39 am

    “So for those more concerned about political power than Kentucky’s families I have some words to say: Get Over it!”

    — Gov. Steve Beshear, after reminding that Obamacare is the law of the land.

    I like, like, like this guy.

    Talking now about how Obamacare is NOT a trainwreck.

    Makes such a difference to have a state with a well-planned website.

    “You don’t have to like the President. You don’t have to like me. … it does not cost you a dime to [check out the state’s website, and they will come away happy.]”

    C-Span 3; maybe they’ll rebroadcast. From October 3 at National Journal.

  80. 80.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:41 am

    @raven:

    If you would, put up the clip when it’s up.

  81. 81.

    Cassidy

    October 17, 2013 at 11:41 am

    @raven: He was on fire on Maher this weekend.

  82. 82.

    raven

    October 17, 2013 at 11:41 am

    @Another Botsplainer: Not much new. One of his dogs is real sick and his last post was about the 5th Mech.

  83. 83.

    EconWatcher

    October 17, 2013 at 11:42 am

    Even Karl Rove is admitting they royally screwed up (although claiming that somehow Obama goaded them into it).

    With apologies to Godwin, I’m reminded of the fact that the Nazis did not generally report battlefield setbacks in their media. But the defeat at Stalingrad was so profound that they felt they had to. It was announced over the radio, with funereal music in the background.

    The Republicans’ Stalingrad? I report, you decide.

  84. 84.

    rea

    October 17, 2013 at 11:42 am

    @dmsilev: That Conan the Barbarian quote was lifted from a 1927 book by Harold Lamb, in which (apparently with some basis in medieval chronicles) he attributes it to Genghis Khan.

  85. 85.

    raven

    October 17, 2013 at 11:43 am

    @Elizabelle: Hmm, I’ll see if I can find it but I bet he’ll have the same schtick tonight.

  86. 86.

    Waspuppet

    October 17, 2013 at 11:43 am

    “We need to stop focusing on lobbyists, bloggers [WTF?!?!–ed.], …

    He means Erickson.

    P.s. Can we just make Biden VP for life? He’s exactly what you want in a veep and he loves it so.

  87. 87.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:44 am

    @raven:

    At least until Tweety gets his next mancrush on a Republican.

  88. 88.

    raven

    October 17, 2013 at 11:45 am

    @EconWatcher: I was just reading about how, after the Kasserine Pass and Rommel’s exit, they just made up all kinds of shit about their strength.

  89. 89.

    gelfling545

    October 17, 2013 at 11:46 am

    @kindness: No, he hates congressmen who will sell out their country for a favorable mention in a blog.

  90. 90.

    TAPX486

    October 17, 2013 at 11:46 am

    @Elizabelle: On point 4 – Yesterday I saw an article from a S. Dakota paper in which the local ranchers were complaining that the feds weren’t there to help them out of the mess that last week’s blizzard created. They did not seem able to make the connection between no federal help and the TP congress critter that they had elected. To many people want the government to be like a fire extinguisher – out of sight collecting dust until needed and then it should be fully charged and ready to go.

  91. 91.

    nemesis

    October 17, 2013 at 11:47 am

    Wow. That was awesome, Mr President. Keep it up.

  92. 92.

    some guy

    October 17, 2013 at 11:47 am

    nice bitchslap, and the “deficit is getting smaller, not bigger now” line needs to be put on an endless loop.

  93. 93.

    raven

    October 17, 2013 at 11:47 am

    @Elizabelle: Does his necrophilia with St Ronnie count?

  94. 94.

    Belafon

    October 17, 2013 at 11:47 am

    @Sloegin: No, it counts as a win, and a pretty major one. I’ll give Republicans credit: This was Gettysburg. The North didn’t win the war at Gettysburg, but the South received a pretty major defeat. The same here. We still have to deal with Cruz (I’ll fill in the oval twice next time to get him out) and the rest of the tea party, but this was a win.

  95. 95.

    Cassidy

    October 17, 2013 at 11:49 am

    @EconWatcher: Nah. I’d say Edgehill.

  96. 96.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:51 am

    @raven:

    Yeah, the Reagan worship is tiresome.

    Tweety seems not to be informing that the issue is the Congress has changed so much. More reaching across the aisle earlier.

    Reagan and Tip O’Neill were around just before PAC financing took off, weren’t they?

    Matthews is enthusing about the “good old days”, when congresscritters represented their constituents, and not just their funding sources.

    It’s a different world, and one of those two great parties is not like the other.

  97. 97.

    different-church-lady

    October 17, 2013 at 11:52 am

    @catclub: Huh… there I go misremembering my history again.

    Since Ken Starr had already completed an extensive investigation, the House Judiciary Committee conducted no investigations of its own into Clinton’s alleged wrongdoing, and it held no serious impeachment-related hearings before the 1998 mid-term elections. Nevertheless, impeachment was one of the major issues in the election. In November 1998, the Democrats picked up seats in the Congress.

    It was, GOP: “Let’s impeach him for Lewinski!” COUNTRY: “Uh, we’re sick of Lewinski, don’t do this.” GOP: “Well if we’ve already paid the price, we might as well go ahead with it!”

  98. 98.

    Higgs Boson's Mate (Crystal Set)

    October 17, 2013 at 11:52 am

    @Belafon:

    I’d count it as a win because Republicans now seem determined to make the FAIL Parade, led by Cruz and Ryan, a quarterly event.

  99. 99.

    mister anderson

    October 17, 2013 at 11:53 am

    so my email has been innundated by crap this morning but there seems to be a quote from Mark Levin (yes, I know) that seems to be getting traction in the fever swamp.

    The president must first pay interest on the debt under the 14th Amendment. The federal government collects 10 times as much revenue each month as it needs to cover those payments. As long as the president complies with the Constitution there can be no default. ”

    Being the lazy ass that I am, what’s the pushback on this?

  100. 100.

    Cassidy

    October 17, 2013 at 11:54 am

    @Elizabelle: he doesn’t worship Reagan; he worships his old boss. Reagan has to be thought well of for Tip’s legacy to be shiny.

  101. 101.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 11:59 am

    @Belafon:

    Speaking of Ted Cruz: we were laughing at the Houston Chronicle’s regret in endorsing him in their “Why We Miss Kay Bailey Hutchison” editorial yesterday.

    The Ted Cruz endorsement, made 369 days earlier, had its own gift:

    Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison’s warning about Cruz. After saying he was smart and wanted to be effective:

    Direct quote:

    She added a warning, noting that the people who supported Cruz in the Republican primary and runoff are from small states with different interests than a large state such as Texas. “He’s going to have to choose early between being loyal to [Sen.] Jim DeMint [R-S.C.] and [Sen.] Mike Lee [R-Utah] and the needs of the people of Texas.”

    The Chron deserves raspberries. In their very own Cruz endorsement, they seemed to like the Democratic candidate — Paul Sandler — better, but didn’t think he was electable. They blamed Democrats for lack of interest and support in the Sandler campaign.

    Um, Chron? Newspaper endorsements can make a big difference.

  102. 102.

    Botsplainer

    October 17, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    The sunk cost fallacy will get you every single time.

  103. 103.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    @Cassidy:

    You are more astute than I was.

    Again!

  104. 104.

    ira-NY

    October 17, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    @EconWatcher:

    It was more like Pickett’s charge.

  105. 105.

    Bruce K

    October 17, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    @ira-NY: Complete with reality-challenged death-or-glory commanders and people who knew damn well before the trumpets sounded that they wouldn’t make it to the wall.

  106. 106.

    Cassidy

    October 17, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    @Elizabelle: I deserve no credit. It dawned in me listening to him go full metal liberal on Maher this past weekend that he has a very deep nostalgia for the Tip-Reagan era. His idolization of Tip has to have Reagan as the reasonable Republican to fit his memories. One of the things he said was that Reagan didn’t go starting wars, that it’s a new conservative thing. I had to rewind and listen to make sure he said that.

  107. 107.

    Redshirt

    October 17, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    Alright, now that this is all wrapped up, let’s get back to the Snowden Wars.

  108. 108.

    fuckwit

    October 17, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    @dmsilev: He’s referring to Erick Son of Erick. He should have called out Limbaugh and hate radio too.

  109. 109.

    Kay

    October 17, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    @aimai:

    He really is entertaining. Here he is welcoming the EPA workers back:

    “I brought some muffins!” Biden said when he arrived, placing few containers of “Coffee Cake Bites” on the EPA security desk, per a White House pool report.
    The vice president spotted a sign on the desk that read, “All visitors must be escorted at all times.” Biden announced: “I’d like to be escorted!”

  110. 110.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 17, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Oh, fuck that “under God” part. I want that gone.

    I’m tired of this fucking invisible sky buddy shit.

  111. 111.

    boatboy_srq

    October 17, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    I hope all of us have learned that smart, effective governance is important

    Nice, but vain. “Smart, effective governance” and “Grand Auld Pahty” don’t belong in the same sentence. I’m looking forward to the day when the GOTea gives up all pretense and rebrands itself as the Anarchist Party.

  112. 112.

    Sloane Ranger

    October 17, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    Thanks to all those who welcomed me on to this blog by responding to my comment in one of the threads below. I haven’t seen the speech but there will certainly be extracts (at least) shown on the news over here in Blighty.

    From the highlights above it seems the President delivered a well crafted speech, avoiding overt triumphalism while still managing to make clear who was to blame for the shutdown and the economic and personal damage they caused. Good that he called them out on their lies about the deficit. The Head of the OECD was interviewed recently and he described the US as the one bright spot in the world, fiscally speaking.

    Also, as a former British public sector worker I was pleased to see that President Obama took time out to praise government workers and note the important work they do. I know how low our morale over here is with all the redundancies and re-organisations that have taken place as a result of Osbourne austerity and I can feel for my colleagues over there who must feel liked they’ve been kicked in the teeth, not only by the financial pressures they’ve been under due to not being paid but by the absolute contempt the Republicans have shown towards them and what they do for your country.

    Has anyone responded from the Repubs yet or are they keeping their heads down? I’m tempted to dive into the swamp that is Red State to see if they’ve reported it and, if so, what the commentators are saying.

  113. 113.

    aimai

    October 17, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    @rea: Oh my god, I read that book. Also, was into Conan before Conan was cool. Wish I still had my original paperbacks with the Frazetta covers.

  114. 114.

    Chickamin Slam

    October 17, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    Seeing all the comments posted on my right wing nut jobs (I mean congressperson’s) facebook the consenus is: The Republicans sold the country into slavery. They are no different than Democrats and yes … it’s true they want Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin for Pres/VP in 2016. Right after they primary the RINOs in 2014. “Where are the true patriots?” they bemoan …

    Hard to believe these people even exist until you are accosted by one in a coffee shop …

  115. 115.

    Meg

    October 17, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    @Elizabelle: Tweety actually told Stephan Colbert that Reagan was much better a president than Barack Obama.

  116. 116.

    Svensker

    October 17, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    @mister anderson:

    The president must first pay interest on the debt under the 14th Amendment. The federal government collects 10 times as much revenue each month as it needs to cover those payments. As long as the president complies with the Constitution there can be no default.

    Because they don’t just have to pay the interest. They have to pay principal. There’s a large tranch of bonds rolling over in the next few days. In order to pay them, Treasury has to issue new bonds…which they can’t do without the debt ceiling being raised. Large investors (and small, too) who are expecting to get all their principal would not be happy to be given an interest payment instead.

    Levin and Co. have no idea what they’re talking about. But it “sounds good” and it goes against what liebruls are saying, so AOK.

  117. 117.

    catclub

    October 17, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    @raven: Tweety always piles onto a bandwagon.
    Not indicative of any convictions.

  118. 118.

    mai naem

    October 17, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    @Cassidy: I am sick and tired fo Chris Matthews and his stupid book. I’m sure part of it is because he’s been on pretty much every show I watch. What he ignores about Reagan, is that Reagan was where the “gubmint is ” very very very bad’ and less gubmint is “very very very good”, along with the solution to any problem is cut taxes. The Reagan tax cuts were what really started to accelerate income inequality in this country. Furthermore, Matthews doesn’t being up PATCO and nobody asks Matthews about it either.

  119. 119.

    chopper

    October 17, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    @Dr. Loveless:

    hey, i made that same joke last week.

  120. 120.

    Tom Levenson

    October 17, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    @Roger Moore: Cohen the Barbarian — now that’s a different story.

  121. 121.

    Cervantes

    October 17, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    @rea: That Conan the Barbarian quote was lifted from a 1927 book by Harold Lamb, in which (apparently with some basis in medieval chronicles) he attributes it to Genghis Khan.

    With some basis, maybe, but it’s a disputed attribution. Some of those chronicles were propaganda commissioned by the Persian Ilkhanate.

  122. 122.

    Jockey Full of Malbec

    October 17, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    @Cassidy:
    I grew up in Tip’s district. IMO it’s quite possible to “love” Tip and “hate” the Reagan.

    Matthews is an Irish Catholic of a Certain Age. His Reagan-crush may have more to do with that than anything.

    (Fun Fact: I once saw Tip O’Neill, flanked on either side by Secret Service, staggering out of Frank’s Steak House on Mass Ave in Cambridge one afternoon. I was carrying the Strat I had just bought myself for my 20th birthday. To this day, I call that guitar “Tip”).

  123. 123.

    stinger

    October 17, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: I always replace it with “under the Constitution”. More syllables, but then they fill up that long pause before “indivisible” that annoys me almost as much as the religion reference.

  124. 124.

    JenJen

    October 17, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    @Waspuppet: Yup! By bloggers, he absolutely meant Erickson. He was practically running the Heritage war room from his bunker in Macon.

  125. 125.

    Paul in KY

    October 17, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    @dmsilev: That is actually a paraphrase of what Genghis Khan is supposed to have said about that same topic (what is good in life, not government shutdown).

  126. 126.

    Paul in KY

    October 17, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    @aimai: Would like to see VP Biden become President.

    Whoa! The edit function has made it’s every 100 year return!

  127. 127.

    Jamey

    October 17, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    @Dr. Loveless: Gotta love “CtB!” A year ago, I was using the term, “The lamination of the women**” as a stand-in for “binders full of women.”

    (**I know it was lamentation.)

  128. 128.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    @Paul in KY:

    I would love to see President Joe Biden too, but qualify that with “in January 2017” please. Not a second before the scheduled inauguration.

    Please, please, please.

  129. 129.

    Elizabelle

    October 17, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    @Meg:

    Reagan > Obama, in Tweety’s view.

    Ahem. Glad to have never seen that Colbert show.

  130. 130.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 17, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    Vicious jackals and hyenas of BJ, it is time for a Happy Dance, because we averted a major crisis.
    Thankyou Mr President and Senate Majority Leader.

  131. 131.

    jl

    October 17, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    I hope the House GOP feels respected, now that a bigshot, gave a speech, with a special emphasis just for them.

    If I were Obama, I would have sent Biden out to do it, and would have asked him to put in some gaffes.

  132. 132.

    nastybrutishntall

    October 17, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    @NotMax: From TPM:

    “I think some of our members may have thought the default issue was a hostage you might take a chance at shooting. Most of us didn’t think that,” said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) after the 2011 standoff. “What we did learn is this — it’s a hostage that’s worth ransoming. And it focuses the Congress on something that must be done.”

    Yeah, but what does Mitch know?

  133. 133.

    Scott P.

    October 17, 2013 at 6:04 pm

    More Biden fun.

  134. 134.

    SiubhanDuinne

    October 17, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Yeah, personally I agree with you. When I am in a situation (rare to never, these days) when I am expected to recite the Pledge, I always close my mouth during the “under God” part.

    But why would Obama want to invite a(nother) shitstorm of freakout by deliberately omitting those two words? Sometime, discretion really is the better part of valor.

  135. 135.

    Paul in KY

    October 18, 2013 at 9:32 am

    @Elizabelle: Of course! Elected in 2016 & inaugurated in 2017!

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