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The Great Northern Menace

by $8 blue check mistermix|  December 9, 201312:42 pm| 81 Comments

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Canada is trying to steal the North Pole. We must Preserve Our Essence and keep their gravy-stained, poutine-grabbing paws off of Santa’s homeland. Do you think a pre-emptive strike on Mississauga and Chicoutimi is the right way to show them who’s boss? Or should we just cut to the chase by invading the tar sands of Alberta? Discuss that or anything else in this open thread.

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  1. 1.

    scuffletuffle

    December 9, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    Yutsano in 3…2…1…

  2. 2.

    Villago Delenda Est

    December 9, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    I blame Canada. Oh, wait…you already did.

    Or those Russkies. Can’t trust them. As the people of the Ukraine should know by now…in fact, most of them do.

  3. 3.

    Knight of Nothing

    December 9, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    The hell you say!? Everyone knows Santa is Finnish.

  4. 4.

    The Red Pen

    December 9, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    ICYMI

  5. 5.

    Yatsuno

    December 9, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    It’s either the Canucks or the Russkies. Take yer pick.

  6. 6.

    Belafon

    December 9, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    I say we build a wall dividing the Northern North Pole from the Southern North Pole.

  7. 7.

    Yatsuno

    December 9, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    @scuffletuffle: I am nothing if not prompt, even if I’ve been doing medical shit all morning.

  8. 8.

    Jane2

    December 9, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    Go for it, Yankee infidel. Remember The War of 1812.

  9. 9.

    Gin & Tonic

    December 9, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: It’s “Ukraine”, not “the Ukraine.” You don’t say “the France”, do you?

  10. 10.

    Roger Moore

    December 9, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    @Yatsuno:
    Why not the USA? We have Alaska, after all, so we’re about as close to the pole as those other guys.

  11. 11.

    shelly

    December 9, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    Palin can see Santa’s workshop from her house

  12. 12.

    ranchandsyrup

    December 9, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    don’t sleep on Denmark, they could trump everyone.

    Also, if Russia’s claim prevails, Putin is likely to name Snowden whistleblower leaker Emperor of the North Pole.

  13. 13.

    PeakVT

    December 9, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    I think extending continental shelf “rights” that far is ridiculous, but I suppose I’d rather have Soviet Canuckistan claim it than Soviet Russia.

  14. 14.

    Steeplejack

    December 9, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    While France was never “the France” (except in French), Ukraine was “the Ukraine” until relatively recently.

    [. . .] the Ukrainian government officially requested that the article be dropped in 1993, shortly after independence.

    I will skip over “the Argentine” and “the Congo.”

  15. 15.

    MattF

    December 9, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    You’re all just completely ignoring the civilization under the North Pole:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_Earth

  16. 16.

    Roger Moore

    December 9, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    I will skip over “the Argentine” and “the Congo.”

    And the United States of America.

  17. 17.

    Lee

    December 9, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    My oldest daughter battles depression.

    I found this shortish video really helpful.

  18. 18.

    MattF

    December 9, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    @Steeplejack: Also, ‘the Lebanon.’

  19. 19.

    Villago Delenda Est

    December 9, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    In German, you say “The Turkey” and “The Czechoslovakia”.

    Ok, unless you’re a Mitt Romney foreign policy adviser, you don’t say the second in any case.

  20. 20.

    burnspbesq

    December 9, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Not to mention The Ohio State University.

  21. 21.

    Mike in NC

    December 9, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    Americans tried to invade Canada at least three times between the 1770s and the 1870s, and it never ended well.

  22. 22.

    peach flavored shampoo

    December 9, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    Wait…Denmark is claiming the North Pole? Not only are they not the northiest, they’re not even in the Artic Circle. I think Poland ought to get the North Pole, just because it’s seems appropriate.

  23. 23.

    burnspbesq

    December 9, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    @MattF:

    You’re all just completely ignoring the civilization under the North Pole:

    Sy Hersh says Hollow Earth is real and Obama misrepresented the evidence in his public statements on the subject.

  24. 24.

    PeakVT

    December 9, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    @peach flavored shampoo: You forgot Poland Greenland.

    Map.

  25. 25.

    Steeplejack

    December 9, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    @MattF:

    Don’t know if you’re snarking, but I’ve never heard “the Lebanon” used outside the Human League song. “The Levant,” yes, but that’s an area that encompasses Lebanon, Syria and other parts of the eastern Mediterranean.

  26. 26.

    Villago Delenda Est

    December 9, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    No, that was Glenn Beck. Nice try, though!

  27. 27.

    burnspbesq

    December 9, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    “Mr. President, we cannot allow a North Pole Gap.”

  28. 28.

    burnspbesq

    December 9, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Whackaloonia) announced today that the House Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations will hold hearings on how the Obama Administration lost the North Pole.

  29. 29.

    scav

    December 9, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    I don’t know, looking at the stuff Santa’s elves can churn out, they might be able to put up a hell of a fight, albeit sometimes with nerf ammo — their lego battalions are impressive and you can’t match the speed and pin-point accuracy of their delivery systems either. No wonder the concerted global effort to drown them out first.

  30. 30.

    Punchy

    December 9, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    @peach flavored shampoo: Do you think Poland would go to war…saw over this claim?

    I agree that the Danes must be playing some tendentious tectonic tomfoolery if they think they have a legit claim for a land that is not only not contiguous, but not even in the same time zone or climate. Good lord.

  31. 31.

    MattF

    December 9, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    @Steeplejack: In fact, Robert MacNeil, back in the days of the MacNeil-Lehrer Report, always used to refer to ‘the Lebanon’. It was an affectation even at that time, but I think that back in the ’20’s and ’30’s, ‘the Lebanon’ was the standard name for the area.

  32. 32.

    Thor Heyerdahl

    December 9, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    @Roger Moore: Uh no. Barrow, AK is the northermost US town at 71 degrees 17 minutes north.

    Russia, Denmark (via Greenland), Canada and Norway all have inhabited settlements, let alone weather stations much further north than Barrow. Alert in the Canadian arctic is approx. 760 miles north of Barrow. Lonyearbyen in Svalbard (Norway) is approx 480 miles north of Barrow, Qaanaq (formerly Thule) in Greenland is about 410 miles north of Barrow.

  33. 33.

    DougJ

    December 9, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    He’d be damned if any Canucks gonna put their greasy poutine-stained hands on his boy’s birthright.

  34. 34.

    redbeardjim

    December 9, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    @Punchy: Yeah, it’s almost as bad as the US laying claim to some volcanic island chain in the middle of the Pacific. And then having the gall to say that people from that chain are eligible to be President!

  35. 35.

    scav

    December 9, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    And what about the Evangelical and Cheney-Repub (keeping it in the family) claims to the North Pole?! Valuable natural exploitable resources and clearly a part of the War on Christmas as well! Two-fer! Especially as they already control the real math (and presumably geometry which is exactly the same as geography, right?)

  36. 36.

    MikeJ

    December 9, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    @MattF: The Lebanon.

    @Knight of Nothing:

    Everyone knows Santa is Finnish.

    Actually he’s Turkish.

  37. 37.

    Thor Heyerdahl

    December 9, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    @Thor Heyerdahl: And while Alert is a manned weather station, the settlement of Grise Fjord is still at 76 degrees north approx 350 miles north of Barrow.

  38. 38.

    handsmile

    December 9, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    Preferred nomenclature aside, foreboding developments today in Kiev, “[The] Ukraine riot police enter central Kiev amid rumors of attack on square”:

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/09/ukraine-riot-police-kiev-square-klitschko

    Toppling statues of former leaders may be all good fun, but apparently threats to march upon his home were a little too much for President Viktor Yanukovych.

  39. 39.

    Thor Heyerdahl

    December 9, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    @MikeJ: Lots of Finns head to Antalya in the winter…

  40. 40.

    MattF

    December 9, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    @handsmile: And, not unrelated, Putin kills off the only more-or-less unbiased official news source in Russia:

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/12/09/ria_novosti_russia_today_putin_replaces_a_state_run_news_outlet_with_a_state.html

    I know, it’s a Slate link, but the news reports aren’t telling the whole story.

  41. 41.

    Punchy

    December 9, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    amid rumors of attack on square”:

    So the fucking ‘Kraines hate geometry, too? Wait till they lay waste to the rhombus.

  42. 42.

    Gin & Tonic

    December 9, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Let me know when this blog starts being written in German.

  43. 43.

    Knight of Nothing

    December 9, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    @MikeJ: Ha! Actually, that requires you to believe (1) that Santa is Christian, and (2) St Nick and Santa are the same dude. I think the evidence points to a different conclusion.

  44. 44.

    ericblair

    December 9, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    @Thor Heyerdahl:

    And while Alert is a manned weather station, the settlement of Grise Fjord is still at 76 degrees north approx 350 miles north of Barrow.

    So, give it 50 years and a few bazillion more tons of atmospheric carbon, and we’ll have a Club Med resort with infinity pool? Might start buying up land around there now before the rush starts.

  45. 45.

    Origuy

    December 9, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    The word “Ukraine” comes from an Old Slavic word meaning “borderland”. I guess the Ukrainians felt that using the article (in English; Ukrainian like Russian doesn’t have articles) made their country sound like the hinterlands of Russia.

  46. 46.

    handsmile

    December 9, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    @MattF:

    Thanks, this AJA article provides a little more information on Putin’s action to dissolve RIA:

    http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/12/9/putin-dissolves-rianovostinewsagency.html

    Though for the time being at least, RIA Novosti’s website is still active:

    http://en.ria.ru/

  47. 47.

    caroln

    December 9, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    @Steeplejack:
    http://www.lyricsdepot.com/roger-waters/three-wishes.html
    I wish they were all happy in the Lebanon

  48. 48.

    Gene108

    December 9, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    @Lee:

    Nice video.

    People have also liked this blog post http://www.hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2013/05/depression-part-two.html?m=1

    My only quibble with the video and blog post is the idea that not feeling is as bad as depression gets. From my experience becoming actively psychotic is worse.

    Positive reinforcement is needed for recovery. Anytime you can think to praise someone recovering do it. Even the “simple” stuff like getting out of bed, taking a bath and getting out of the house can take a lot of will power, if the crazy voiced are kicking in.

  49. 49.

    Mnemosyne

    December 9, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    What about the Netherlands?

  50. 50.

    ottercliff

    December 9, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    This is just another shot in that insidious War On Christmas.

  51. 51.

    Svensker

    December 9, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    @MattF:

    We know a Hollow Earther! He claims the entrance to the H.E. is via an unmarked Holiday Inn somewhere in Nevada or thereabouts. Makes perfect sense to me.

    Also, not all us Canuckistanians have gravy-stained fingers. Mine are donut-stained, if you must know.

  52. 52.

    Gene108

    December 9, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    @Mike in NC:

    I do not think the 1770 invasions should count, since it was part of the Revolutionary War and unlike the War of 1812, not an overt attempt at gaining territory.

    The only thing we would need to resolve is, if we do invade Canada and pay them back for torching the White House, should just settle for buildings in Ottowa or since Canada is still part of the Commonwealth and the British King/Queen is still their head of state, should we trash Buckingham Palace because the White House is not only the seat of government but also doubled as where our head of state is.

  53. 53.

    PIGL

    December 9, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    Invade the tarsands? You can have them. Please take Alberta with you, but leave is a free transit corridors, and make Edmonton a free city.

  54. 54.

    ericblair

    December 9, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    We know a Hollow Earther! He claims the entrance to the H.E. is via an unmarked Holiday Inn somewhere in Nevada or thereabouts. Makes perfect sense to me.

    The Hollow Earth hypothesis must be true. It is the only logical place where our missing socks from the laundry could be accumulating since the only alternative would be an easily detectable new moon. QED. Because science.

  55. 55.

    Yatsuno

    December 9, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    @Svensker: Mmm…Timbits…

  56. 56.

    MattF

    December 9, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    @ericblair: I’ve always held to the view that Missing Socks are a consequence of the Axiom of Choice:

    http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/15668/axiom-of-choice-examples

  57. 57.

    Spike

    December 9, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    All of this definite article silliness reminds me of the comic who would start his act with “Hello I’m A. Whitney Brown. Someday I hope to be The Whitney Brown.”

  58. 58.

    El Caganer

    December 9, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    Senator John McCain has demanded that the Administration provide weapons and supplies to the Free Elves Army, saying “No people, no matter how small and pointy-eared, deserve to live under the tyranny of socialized medicine.”

  59. 59.

    canuckistani

    December 9, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    Come and take it, if you’re ready for a mukluk up the ass.

  60. 60.

    low-tech cyclist

    December 9, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    I say that we tell the Canadians that if they don’t behave themselves, we will give them Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, and Oklahoma, and then run and hide so they can’t give ’em back.

  61. 61.

    Cermet

    December 9, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    Great idea – we invade, declare we lost and surrender only if they agree to absorb us. We all get single payer health care, and best of all, get rid of congress – win/win.

  62. 62.

    ? Martin

    December 9, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    That’s bullshit. Canada already owns the magnetic north pole. They want the geographic one too?

  63. 63.

    Villago Delenda Est

    December 9, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    @Origuy:

    More like the Belgium of Russia, where all the invasions by the Huns/Krauts start.

  64. 64.

    Villago Delenda Est

    December 9, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    @El Caganer:

    But they like it! Just like the house elves of Hogwarts!

    Darn S.P.E.W. radicals…

  65. 65.

    currants

    December 9, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: La France?

  66. 66.

    Steeplejack

    December 9, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    The Netherlands, Holland . . . and the people from there are Dutch? I can’t deal with that level of fucked-up-ness.

  67. 67.

    Steeplejack

    December 9, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    @Spike:

    Alas, now he’s “who’s Whitney Brown?”

  68. 68.

    Hightower

    December 9, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Excellent use of funny Canadia city names. You also could have gone with Medicine Hat and Moose Jaw.

  69. 69.

    Jay C

    December 9, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    And not only that, but the capital of The Netherlands is at The Hague! Attitude, much, Dutchies??

  70. 70.

    Citizen_X

    December 9, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    YOU JUST TRY AND TAKE IT, JOHNNY CANUCK

  71. 71.

    Roy G.

    December 9, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    “The Ukraine is weak. It’s feeble. I think it’s time to put the hurt on the Ukraine.”
    -Cosmo Kramer

  72. 72.

    jefft452

    December 9, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    @Gene108: “I do not think the 1770 invasions should count, since it was part of the Revolutionary War and unlike the War of 1812, not an overt attempt at gaining territory.”

    Yeah it was
    They wanted all 20 colonies, not just the 13 that they ended up with

  73. 73.

    jefft452

    December 9, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    Plan Crimson is still on the shelf somewhere, isn’t it?

  74. 74.

    The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

    December 9, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    Leaving the article off The Ukraine just sounds so freakin’ illiterate. That and The Sudan. I guess I’ve been fatigued into compliance on The Lebanon and The Labrador and The Gambia and The Cameroons—and even the calculus—but I dig my heels in with those two.

  75. 75.

    Roy G.

    December 9, 2013 at 6:34 pm

    @Hightower: Not to mention Dildo, Newfoundland.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:DildoNewfoundland.jpg

  76. 76.

    Just One More Canuck

    December 9, 2013 at 7:27 pm

    I’m sure that TROC (The Rest of Canada) would be fine if Toronto were to suddenly disappear

  77. 77.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 9, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    @Spike:

    “I have with me in the studio tonight Anne Elk.”

  78. 78.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 9, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    @Just One More Canuck:

    TROC (The Rest of Canada)

    We used to call it “Trocadia.”

  79. 79.

    Just One More Canuck

    December 9, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    @Roy G.: It’s just down the road from Come By Chance

  80. 80.

    Snarki, child of Loki

    December 9, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    @Mike in NC:

    Americans tried to invade Canada at least three times between the 1770s and the 1870s, and it never ended well.

    But now that there are Tim Horton’s in upstate NY, there’s no more reason to invade.

  81. 81.

    Steeplejack

    December 9, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    @The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge:

    The Sudan! That’s the one I couldn’t remember. Been nagging at me all day. Thank you.

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