Obama shaking Raul Castro’s hand is why we can’t have _________________.
I say immigration reform. How about you?
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Obama shaking Raul Castro’s hand is why we can’t have _________________.
I say immigration reform. How about you?
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dmsilev
A pony.
And single-payer health care.
Damn you, Castrobama!
Mnemosyne
“Gun control.” Because, yanno, if we don’t have dozens of guns in every American household, there’s no way we can prevent an island nation with fewer citizens than the entire state of Ohio from successfully invading us.
Yatsuno
Nice things. Evar.
Cassidy
@Mnemosyne: You haven’t watched the documentary Red Dawn have you? Only ‘Mericans with guns can save us from those people. WOLVERINES!
Betty Cracker
Magickal dolphins.
PhoenixRising
The best snorkeling in the Caribbean. Because PBO just bought another 60 years of embargo.
danielx
Banking regulation. Because Commies.
russell
lunch
scav
Reeeeligeous Frrreeeeeeedom, let alone a GI-Christ-approved Chiiiiiiiiistmaaaaaaas! (with Mas Christ!)
PeakVT
I really hope the Repukes put their full effort into this meltdown.
Petorado
… trade with those other damnable communists the Chinese. But it’s OK if Rusty gets to smoke a few of those Cuban cigars ’cause it lets him blow smoke in liberal’s faces.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I will be interested to see how Jorge Diaz-Balart reacts, his ‘wing-nut congress-brothers were both professional Castro-haters, IIRC. I’m sure Raul Labrador will be triple-dog opposed to immigration reform now.
The Red Pen
Apocatastasis.
MattF
Rational foreign policy. Because it would mean having to distinguish between actual left-wingers and scary Kenyan Muslim teleprompter-readers.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Peace in our time?
How is this man considered a foreign policy sage, rather than our embarrassing national uncle. Yes, yes, I know: Boomer daddy issues and Vietnam guilt.
Comrade Jake
more Toto music videos?
Baud
Gay marriage, because that’s what men shaking hands leads to.
Just Some Fuckhead, Thought Leader
Christmas this year!
Ash Can
Environmental regulations.
Xecky Gilchrist
A break from wingut panic-screeching. But we weren’t going to get one anyway.
Phil Perspective
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Don’t forget, Cranky McSame’s father and grandfather were both admirals in the Navy. Cranky was stuck with being a 5th-rate pilot and corrupt, dickwad Senator.
Ash Can
Financial regulations.
Hungry Joe
A Major League team in Havana.
Citizen_X
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: You know who else shook hands with a Castro?
Comrade Scrutinizer
casual sex free from the fear of STDs.
Forkbeard
A wet suit and some “marital aids”?
Roger Moore
@Yatsuno:
This.
Yatsuno
@Phil Perspective: How else do you think Grandpa Walnuts was allowed to keep flying after three crashes? Navy regulations ground you after one. And I’m not even going to get into the Forrestal incident.
Cassidy
@Comrade Scrutinizer: Craigslist lies!
Just Some Fuckhead, Thought Leader
@Baud: I could shake your hand for that.
Kay
I heard it on the car radio. Wolf Blitzer. Big and Breaking.
Can we do a graph? How many days out does it reach peak screech then head down?
dmsilev
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
No, it’s more the undying media search for “serious” Republicans. See: Ryan, Paul.
Yatsuno
@Just Some Fuckhead, Thought Leader: Yer gonna have a lotta splainin’ to do to Mrs Fuckhead.
@Kay: I think Rush already cut his show for the day, so at least tomorrow.
Bill
… less expensive sugar.
jl
But in Florida, we can have Festivus!
Residents Of Tallahassee May Air Grievances With ‘Festivus’ Pole At State Capitol
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tallahassee-to-celebrate-seinfeld-holiday-festivus
I’ll have to look up where I can listen to Alex Jones, who will explain how it’s all connected, and what the real agenda of the Obama/Scott gang is, and how it connects up with sinister county child welfare agencies.
Mistermix is part of the plot, how else can a reasonable person explain a post full of distraction about some handshake with the Hitler-Stalin-Mao of the U.S. with the new Hitler-Stalin-Mao of Cuba?
ruemara
nonfat, nonsugar, noncarb donuts. Jelly donuts.
dmsilev
@Kay: I’ll go with “peaks on Sunday”. Lets the gasbags voice their Outrage on the talk shows, and by early next week we should have the draft budget proposal as the latest Shiny Object to distract them.
Botsplainer
@Comrade Scrutinizer:
Can I at least have casual sex with treatable STDs? Pretty please?
I am not a kook (Supreme Thought Leader)
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Err, I’m confused since Obama is sometimes both in the same sentence, but which is which in this case?
Comrade Scrutinizer
@Cassidy: Thou hast committed Fornication: but that was in a far country, and besides, the wench is dead.
Yatsuno
@dmsilev:
Heard tell Patty has beaten Paulie Boy up enough that a lot of the actual running the government budgets are done and they might try to pass that then come back to the rest of what needs to be settled. Can’t find the article now though. Doesn’t matter anyway: Nobummer shook a Communist’s hand!!!
Just Some Fuckhead, Thought Leader
Obama shook Raul’s hand with the same hand he shook John McCain’s hand with so that’s just like John McCain shaking Raul Castro’s hand by the Transitive Property of the Law of Cooties.
Comrade Scrutinizer
@I am not a kook (Supreme Thought Leader): Perhaps he shook hands with his own self?
Monkeyfister
Obama shaking Raul Castro’s hand is why we can’t have Conservative’s without exploded heads.
Patrick
@Kay:
This is beyond stupid, even for the dumbed down version of the pundits in DC.
Rumsfeld shook hands with Saddam Hussein, McCain himself shook hands with Quadaffi. Where was the outrage? Hell, where is today’s outrage that Reagan was for apartheid and had condemned Mandela?
I could literally care less whether Obama shook hands with Castro since the media could care less that McCain shook hands with a mass-murderer.
Cervantes
Obama shaking Raul Castro’s hand is why we can’t have:
A solution to the P vs. NP problem?
A proof of the Erdős–Faber–Lovász conjecture?
Or even a definitive sighting of the Loch Ness monster?
MomSense
a budget.
Mustang Bobby
…a nice quiet dinner at a restaurant on Calle Ocho in Miami without hearing about how Kennedy/Obama sold them down the rio.
Patrick
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Excellent question. This man was very much in favor of the idiotic, ill-fated Iraq war. Yet, some people think he is a guru. Go figure. It is rather like the Seinfeld episode; the US should start doing the opposite of what McCain wants to do.
Jewish Steel
Cuban 1st baseman Jose Abreu will be playing for the White Sox this year. Coincidence? You decide!
Ash Can
A well-funded public education system.
Petorado
@Patrick: Narratives have to be maintained, and every instance that can be exploited to further the narrative must be seized. Otherwise, people might be inspired by Obama’s speech if that was what the media would allow to be covered.
Yatsuno
@Patrick: How DARE you! Don’t you know that John Sidney McCain III was a Prisoner of War™? He has GRAVITAS on that basis alone! We should be worshiping the very ground he strides upon and fawn over his every utterance!
Linda Featheringill
Sometimes I think that we don’t deserve to have good people in high offices.
PaulW
Obama shaking Raul Castro’s hand is why we can’t have:
food for impoverished families,
a functional federal government,
an end to unlawful imprisonment of innocent men in the Guantanamo prisons,
Dick Cheney and John Yoo taking their rightful place in prison,
a genuinely good Wonder Woman movie instead of a hoped-for cameo in the Superman/Batman blockbuster,
a miracle pill that keeps the fat off our guts and thighs without turning us into mutated zombies or something,
pink fluffy unicorns dancing on rainbows,
Greg Schiano fired from Bucs coaching,
and emotional and spiritual balance for myself and thousands of other introverted, love-shy, possibly Aspergers afflicted persons.
Napoleon
Legal Cuban cigars.
Elizabelle
Obama’s shaking Raul Castro’s hand is why we can’t have
a mainstream media that we take seriously.
some guy
Mona Charen is aghast that an American spy is sitting in a Cuban jail cell? did we lose a war or something?
TopClimber
We can’t have faith in Obama’s patriotism.
His handshake was meant to thank the Castros for supporting his surrogate daddy Mandela when red-blooded types like Reagan and Cheney were doing their best to keep him locked up.
Roger Moore
@Patrick:
Buried under the outrage at whatever stupid thing the Republicans have drummed up this week. That’s the whole point of the right wing perpetual outrage machine. The goal is to get people to ignore the bad stuff the Republicans have done/are doing by throwing up a constant stream of accusations against the Democrats.
dedc79
Can’t wait for the national journal to tell us how/why this handshake sunk the Congressional budget agreement that was nearly finished.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@some guy: Mona Charen is still with us? The Obama-Castro handshake is why I can’t maintain my blissful oblivion of this fact.
Cassidy
@Napoleon: The tobacco shop I used to frequent had a really good cigar selection. I asked the owner about Cubans and he told me that all the Honduran and Dominican tobaccos came from the Cubans immigrants bringing their seeds and that the soil quality was very similar. So, while not exact, the Cubans really aren’t that different. In his opinion, they weren’t better cigars and he preferred Honduran.
Jebediah, RBG
democratic elections, ever again.
some guy
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
yes, she’s the In-House Granny over at NRO, and according the the paragraph Drum cited, she is ashamed to be American. I too am ashamed she is an American, so we share that, at least.
scuffletuffle
Decent pictures of Cole’s pets.
shelly
Obama shaking Raul Castro’s hand is why we can’t have good pie crusts!
Tim I
A good cigar.
Aji
A functioning government.
Or a functioning society. It comes to the same thing.
LABiker
Sharks with fricking laser beams on their heads.
The Red Pen
….aaaaaaand we’re done.
Trollhattan
…a hot-tub-and-oil session with Penelope Cruz. Darn you, Obamastro!
MomSense
Anyone see the top headline at Newsmax?
S. Carolina bill would nullify ObamaCare.
Keith G
@Baud:
In my day, we usually shook something else first.
Paul in KY
any empathy for poor people, who are all just future Commies anyway.
Trollhattan
@MomSense:
Ooh, it’s a nullification Christmas at the Colbert house!
Cacti
A public option.
Chyron HR
Private sector snow days.
SFAW
@I am not a kook (Supreme Thought Leader):
Apparently, Obama’s Official Schedule for this week lists who he’ll be on which day:
Today: Chamberlain
Tomorrow: Hitler, the Obamacare tyrant
The day after that: Chamberlain, the Iran appeaser
The day after that: Hitler, the Butcher of Benghazi
The day after that: Kenyan Mooslim usurper (hey, it’s a day of semi-rest)
The day after that: The Anti-Christ (*because it’s Sunday, the Lord’s day, or some such)
Next week: TBA, but he’s looking at how to become Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili, or FDR.
Stay tuned!
Aji
@The Red Pen: Hmm. I think they thought they could get it out of the starting gate a little faster using McCain. Who, of course, just looks even more than usual like the sad pathetic resentful old asshole that he is.
But it’ll play perfectly to their base.
beltane
@The Red Pen: Uh-oh, now Raoul Castro will feel empowered to invade the Sudetenland. I is skeered.
SFAW
@PaulW:
Hey, the rest of us here have ’em – where were you when Cole handed them out last week?
p.a.
Let’s hope they do go nuts. Anyone under, what, 65 will be all WTF is wrong with these people.
Paul in KY
@PhoenixRising: You know, if we all went down there & snorkled, etc. pretty soon that pristine area would be trashed.
Sloegin
Florida in 2016
SFAW
@beltane:
Hey, better there than The Village, where the Cuban Chinese expats are being persecuted.
(No, not the “Village” of “Villago Delenda Est” fame; we’re talking lower Manhattan.)
Trollhattan
@beltane:
“We’ll be hanging out our
laundryhammers-&-sickles on the Maginot Line.”Jebediah, RBG
@Trollhattan:
No, you can still have that. (“Penelope” is Ted’s code name, right?)
Paul in KY
@Phil Perspective: It took every string those 2 admirals could pull to get Grumpy McCrappypilot commissioned in the 1st place. Best thing that happened to his career was being a POW.
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
@Jewish Steel:
Along with Cuban SS Alexei Ramirez and Cuban LF Dayan Viciedo.
scav
See ubermanly Rumshakes with Husseins and codpiece-swinging sweet hand-holding with Saudis for proper international touching of fingerflesh. The celebrated face-slap-fest diplomacy of Ronnie is what brought down the Berlin wall, single-handedly no?
Trollhattan
@Jebediah, RBG:
I can still tell the difference–she has a lower voice.
Melissa
Fidel Castro, Jimmy Carter, the Aga Khan, and Leonard Cohen were pallbearers at Pierre Trudeau’s funeral. I don’t remember anything in the press about Fidel & Carter, but he was no longer president.
Melissa
Fidel Castro, Jimmy Carter, the Aga Khan, and Leonard Cohen were pallbearers at Pierre Trudeau’s funeral. I don’t remember anything in the press about Fidel & Carter, but he was no longer president.
PhoenixRising
@Paul in KY: Si, claro. I don’t WANT all of you to be able to go. Just the cool ppl who think the embargo is crap who also like to swim to the reef from the beach. Because Commie Cuba doesn’t have power boats to trash the coral, right?
(my kid once videotaped men in masks who appeared to be doing a drug deal between cigarette boats, to document their intrusion of the no-wake zone in the Yucatan; I’ve never experienced actual fear for my life, aside from that moment as the proud parent of 47 pound self-appointed eco-cop. The end of the story: they thought she was cute.)
Botsplainer
This is better than any comedy going.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cornyn-tea-party-sets-an-impossible-standard
Paul in KY
@some guy: God, Mona Charen is still alive! The Barbara Evilsneer lady who died on 911 was probably more nasty, but Mona Charen is a repulsive, scumbag, harridan who would have been right there beside Madame DeFarge in ‘A Tale of Two Cities’
IowaOldLady
The media talking about anything substantive.
Jebediah, RBG
@Trollhattan:
Match point to Trollhattan, and nicely played!
Paul in KY
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I thought that poor excuse for a human was dead too! Fuck!
Paul in KY
@some guy: She’s about as ‘American’ as Joe Lieberman.
Paul in KY
@Melissa: Who were the other 2, David Bowie and Don Cherry?
Ash Can
@Jewish Steel:
@J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford:
Awright, that does it!! IMPEACH!!!
Signed,
Cubs fans everywhere
Paul in KY
@PhoenixRising: Her cuteness might have been what saved the camera from a salt water bath! Hope you get to snorkle there some day.
If you want to, I hear you just go up to Canada & then take a plane down there as no other nation does this stupid embargo.
Cacti
@Sloegin:
Agreed.
There’s no chance that Obama carries Florida in 2016.
Ash Can
@Botsplainer:
That’s priceless. If he’s going to keep spouting howlers like this, this could be the best primary campaign EVAR.
Cassidy
More St. Greenwald: This time he’s in exile!
Suffern ACE
As an aside, everyone at my funeral will be cordial. It is expected. I demand 90 minutes of pleastant greetings, followed by refreshments in the basement.
Thymezone
Obama shaking Raul Castro’s hand is why we can’t have marriage between one man and one really gorgeous Cuban woman.
beltane
The BBC has a nice clip of the crowd going nuts when Obama’s image shows up on the screen and then booing loudly at Jacob Zuma because of reverse racism or something. I predict Jacob Zuma will be embraced as a new wingnut hero. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-25313718
Ash Can
@Cassidy: He insists he wants to come back to the US. And I’m sure he will, as soon as the statute of limitations for aiding and abetting an act of espionage runs out.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Ash Can: It is truly amazing. Tweety and Howard Fineman were bemoaning the fate of poor Mitch McConnell, facing a primary for being willing to save the world from the consequences of US default. IIRC, McConnell was the biggest voice in favor of the block everything strategy Dec ’08/Jan ’09, when some squishes were advocating cooperation with Obama.
Suffern ACE
I think Obama should have used the funeral to get some of our so called allies to beef up sanctions against Cuba–or else. Mandela wouldn’t have wanted it any other way.
Fred
@Napoleon: You’re thinking of Monica Lewinski.
Mike in NC
@Paul in KY: Actually, some US travel agencies now have excursions to Cuba, but they’re billed as people-to-people cultural interactions rather than vacations. Most importantly, you’re not supposed to spend money on the local economy and you sure as hell aren’t allowed to bring anything back, like rum or cigars.
Kay
@dmsilev:
Wolf Blitzer was all chirpy. They love this shit.
I’m surprised they didn’t go with “gaffe” though. I think they like to pretend Obama is always offending diplomatic “conventions”, or something. Remember how much time they spent on bowing, early in his presidency? He was always bowing wrong. All of a sudden, the specific UN aspirational bowing norms were strictly enforced.
jonas
Obama’s handshake made us look weak in front of the Soviets.
beltane
@Suffern ACE: A speech attacking the new axis of evil: Cuba, Iran, and the Vatican would have gone over well, don’t you think?
Mandalay
@Sloegin:
As the Batista chickenrunners in Miami die off, so will hostility towards normalizing relations with Cuba, which has always been an infantile and worthless policy.
I am hopeful that supporting the embargo against Cuba will soon become a surefire way to lose an election in Florida.
Patrick
@Kay:
Which is utterly hilarious if one recalls when Bush did his awkward backrub to Merkel of Germany. But whatever, the black guy can’t do anything right – at least if one was to believe the media clowns in DC.
Mnemosyne
@Suffern ACE:
Most funeral homes won’t let you have alcohol on the premises, so my father-in-law very thoughtfully planned his wake to take place at the funeral home across the street from his favorite bar.
mophene
Pensions.
Mandalay
@Ash Can:
Heh. Two years in a row.
soonergrunt
@Yatsuno: Whatever else his failings as a pilot and an officer may have been, the Forrestal incident cannot be fairly laid at his feet.
Cassidy
I cannot put into words how being represented by this yayhoo makes me feel.
hildebrand
The Levin ward of the right-wing is working itself up into a lather about Michelle Obama looking displeased with something at the memorial. I didn’t bother to actually find out what they were wigging out about.
Cacti
@Mandalay:
Not likely.
That means he’ll have to start paying on those $100,000+ in tax liens and judgments against him.
ruemara
Thread needs something. Here, have a cookie.
The Red Pen
@ruemara: Ooo.
Villago Delenda Est
an NSA free World of Warcraft
Villago Delenda Est
@jonas:
Not to mention the Ottomans.
Kay
@Patrick:
I think the fact that Bush was a third generation politician and the son of a “foreign policy” President never got enough recognition as far as favorable media coverage of his presidency. He benefitted from an assumption that he knew what he was doing. They’ll never admit it, but that’s what happened.
I do think Obama gets way more shit because he’s African American, so I’m not in the “they do this to every Democratic President!” camp, but they did treat Clinton like a used car salesman who had mistakenly wandered into the White House. They don’t now, but they did then. There was some class thing going on there with Clinton that was very disconcerting to me, like he had moved too far up. I read his (crazy long) biography, Clinton. He was very aware of it. My sense was he’s always been vulnerable there, wanting to “belong” in the places his incredible ambition took him.
Villago Delenda Est
@Paul in KY:
I disagree. Mona Charen would have been right after Marie Antoinette. And justifiably so.
Paul in KY
@Mike in NC: Did not know that, Mike. Thanks!
Villago Delenda Est
@Botsplainer:
Well, an obvious RINO would say that, after all.
Botsplainer
@Mike in NC:
I’ve looked at the itineraries, and they suck ass. Expensive, too, considering how suck the itineraries are. I have no desire to observe the methodology of collective sugar farms, experience life on a family tobacco farm, or see a community project for children. I especially have zero interest in experiencing a reading of and lecture on the importance of Afro-Caribbean poetry and its meaning in contemporary Cuban life, particularly as I’m generally disdainful of poetry.
I want to go lay on a beach, eat local food, drink in local taverns, scuba dive, spend money and do all the things that Canadians, Brits and Europeans get to do there.
Cassidy
@Botsplainer: Take a boat. Worked for Colin Farrell.
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
…high-flush toilets, of course.
GregB
I think we can safely assume from these photos at Hot Air that Michelle Obama hates white women.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I absolutely agree on all counts. This goes back to thread of a week or so ago when we talked about race, class and politics. Clinton was viewed by his enemies– and by the skeptical– in a very different way than Obama. He’s kind of come out the other end now, sees himself as an elder statesman very conscious of his status. If you saw his appearance on Colbert– when Colbert started his twitter account under the name IIRC PrezBillyJeff– Bubba has very little sense of humor about himself. He was very stiff and wary
Botsplainer
Here’s the National Geographic itinerary. Fun, fun, fun, right?
jl
@Botsplainer: Do they have any casinos left?
Anyway, not sure why you have to stick with the tour.
And where is the seminar on the importance of Afro-Caribbean poetry and its meaning in contemporary Cuban life held, and who are tutors? On a nice beach, by gorgeous hunks and hunkettes, I would hope.
In other words, have you done your due diligence before you declared it an edu-tour drag?
Yatsuno
@ruemara: COOOOOOOKIE!!!
@Villago Delenda Est: I believe the phrase you’re looking for here is, “Please proceed wingnuts”.
jl
@Botsplainer:
” Learn about the restoration and changing landscape of Havana from a local preservation expert. Then, set out to explore Old Havana, stopping in at local businesses and meeting the workers. On Calle Obispo, meet some of Cuba’s cuentapropistas (self-employed), who are part of an expanding private sector. ”
What kind of self-employed workers? I see possibilities for that day.
Botsplainer
@Cassidy:
A guy I know used to run bootleg charters out of Key West when he had a sizeable sailboat, pre-divorce. According to drunken acquaintances, he’d sail in and bribe the Havana harbormaster so your passport wouldn’t get stamped. The downside was that if you got in any kind of a jam, you were on your own with no consular assistance.
They apparently had a blast.
raven
@Botsplainer: My old man used to fly down there when he was a Navy officer before the revolution, talk abut a blast!
Botsplainer
@jl:
Possibly some, ah, collective action. Collaboration and cooperation among compatible workers leads to outstanding results!
pseudonymous in nc
@Cassidy:
On the one hand, there’s the whole forbidden fruit thing. On the other hand, I’m not sure whether smuggled cigars have been handled as well as legal ones.
I’m not a cigar smoker, though I have appreciated a R&J Petit Corona every so often, and at a wedding I went to a number of years back a box of Cohibas was placed on each table. All not in the US, of course. The embargo on Havana Club pains me a lot more.
dmsilev
@hildebrand: Apparently the Prime Minister of Denmark took a self-photo of her and Obama.
This is of course the _newest_ Worst Scandal Ever.
Botsplainer
@pseudonymous in nc:
Heat in storage (as well as excessive jostling) murders them.
Jebediah, RBG
@Cassidy:
From the Sun article:
Prayers are cheap, Rep. Yoyo. How about some actual action on their behalf?
My elected representatives are certainly not perfect, but I think I have been fortunate to have never been represented by someone like that.
Chris
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
And a worldview that judges our foreign policy by how well it lines up with the advice of documentaries like the Rambo movies, or maybe Transformers if you really like SFX. (I would include Rand Paul and the like in this worldview as well, only substituting Bourne and other conspiracy movies for Rambo).
Kay
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Oh, it was all class. It’s funny, because it backfired. I think people recognized it. Remember how completely nuts they were about “restoring dignity” to the White House, like the Clintons were really bad tenants who we were all just THRILLED to finally be RID of? I defended him much longer than I might have otherwise almost solely because of Peggy Noonan turning her nose up at him. Merit-based, my ass. They’re most comfortable with a pedigree.
What’s amusing about it is how parochial and small-town it is. It’s not sophisticated at all. They sound like our local (ancient) magistrate, who tells me things like “her grandfather stole from his employer in 1971”. Oh, well, then! It’s in the blood! Let’s go right to sentencing!
Amir Khalid
@GregB:
Check out the pic of George W and Laura. See the lettering on the advertising board in front of his seat?
hildebrand
@dmsilev: I actually followed a link to one of the sites on the dark side – good lord, they are trying to work the whole ‘selfie’ thing up into some form of jealous fit that Michelle was having about the president hanging out with a white woman.
Would it be bad of me to hope that Levin has a stroke on air?
Chris
@Patrick:
The entire establishment escaped with their Very Serious Person status intact, despite having been completely wrong on the Iraq War from front to back. Failing upwards is the way of Official Washington.
Cassidy
@pseudonymous in nc: I wouldn’t know; I’ve never had a Cuban. When I was in Iraq, we could get them, but they looked dried out to me. When I smoked, I rolled my own and smoked a pipe with the occasional cigar and I always went for something I hadn’t tried.
raven
The idea that something can be judged by a still photo is so fucking stupid it shouldn’t even be discussed.
Fester Addams
“Shake the hand
that shook the hand
of P. T. Barnum
and Charlie Chan”
Ash Can
@Botsplainer: Are you kidding? That sounds fantastic! Fuck laying around on the goddamned beach and drinking; you can do that anywhere.
scav
@Jebediah, RBG: Funny how they ask for cash and not the all-important and all-powerful prayers when it comes to getting elected and their own butts into power. How selfless of them. The lectures from behind security barriers and in gated communities about the necessary unfettered freedum of guns is cute, too. Or, are they using prayers instead of metal detectors and wands now in federal buildings?
Mandalay
@Botsplainer: There is a reason why that itinerary is necessary, and it is nothing to do with Cuba. While you may have intended your post to be an knock on Cuba, it is actually a withering indictment of your own government.
From your link:
The US government is telling its citizens where they can and cannot go, and you lap it up, oblivious.
Suffern ACE
@dmsilev: A selfie at a funeral? Ugh.
PurpleGirl
@ruemara: They look really good… thought I could reach in and take one. (What kind of cookie are they?)
Gene108
@Kay:
I would say, in 1992, it was also Bill’s relative youth, the fact he smoked a joint in college, and generally – for whatever reason – was dubbed the embodiment of 1960’s counter culture versus Papa Bush’s serious life and traditional values; yes, for a lot of voters Bill was a DFH.
Also, the Internet is really saving Obama from the media. The Internet allows a way to quickly get information to counter the media narrative, so the garbage does not stick like it did 20 years ago.
soonergrunt
@Cassidy: We could get Cubans in Iraq and Afghanistan, but I found that I preferred Honduran.
Belafon
@hildebrand: The picture of the three leaders – Obama, Cameron, and Thorning-Schmidt – is pretty funny in part because Michelle is sitting so stern faced. But we’ve see that before, and I think that’s the dynamic between the two of them. Probably has something to do with the fact that they have two girls.
Botsplainer
@Mandalay:
Actually, I have no knock on Cuba, and blame my government for that shitty itinerary. Frankly, the Cubans that put it on are probably bored with it as well.
Chris
@Kay:
I only remember the nineties a little, but I feel like that was one of Clinton’s strengths – the “class” thing and the way Official Washington and the entire GOP reacted to it. Everything Republicans claim to be, to love and to represent, he was – the white, heartlander, salt-of-the-earth kid born in less than ideal circumstances, but who persevered, worked, studied and eventually climbed his way to the very top of the pyramid through his own hard work and talent. Everything the Bushes, McCains and Romneys of the world weren’t.
And when he got to Washington, it turned out that a lot of these people were uncomfortable with the idea of a shitkicker from flyover country sharing the place with them. And Clinton got to say (or didn’t even have to say) “see? I’m the one who’s one of you. All these people were just full of shit the entire time.”
Anybodybuther2016
@Elizabelle:
This. After that wonderful speech the sorry bastards in the media decided that what he said during the speech wasn’t important. The fact that he wasn’t a rude asshole to a head of state is what was news worthy. If the revolution ever gets here they should be first in line at the guillotine.
Suffern ACE
@hildebrand: Let’s see. We can work this up. Having viewed one photo of this, it isn’t very good to pose for a self pic at a memorial service. But I imagine we’re going to here about how selfies wouldn’t be necessary if the president would allow greater access to pool photographers from the Fournier camp. And we’ll get to here the “white women” screeching from that set of clowns. And heck, the Greenwaldians can go off on how Michelle doesn’t like it when Barak is caught by cameras, but does nothing to step forward when the NSA has made your cell phone into a weapon against you. This should have a few legs.
jl
@Belafon: The problem was caused by the Cameron boy. He’s a bounder. His fault. The Queen will deliver a stern talking to him when he gets back, but he’ll pay no mind,
Cassidy
@soonergrunt: I’m more of a cavendish guy. Glad I quit smoking, but I do miss my pipe.
Botsplainer
@Ash Can:
I’m a complete hedonist. My travel experiences have to be done on my terms, and my interactions done on a whim.
Jebediah, RBG
@Amir Khalid:
Fortuitous framing!
Belafon
@Belafon: I should also add that I don’t think she looks mad. She’s just the less excitable of the two. He’s the extrovert and she’s the introvert.
Also, GWB had someone take a picture of him and Bono with his phone, which he posted on instagram.
MinbariSafari
…anything nice. Zathras can never have anything nice.
Cassidy
@Botsplainer: Do not bicker with coffeehouse progressives. They will sling superiority at you until you feel like Sabrina Deep.
jl
@Belafon: Michelle has a nice eye-roll in one of the pics, after the hubby straightened up.
Harding would have gotten up and tried to leave with a chick he met, but I guess that was the roaring twenties where anything went.
Phoenician in a time of Romans
Obama shaking Raul Castro’s hand is why we can’t have _________________.
An opportunity to see them comparing notes on who has imprisoned and tortured more political prisoners on Cuban soil.
KS in MA
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: We need a new term to replace “Boomer,” don’t you think?, since so many boomers were and still are DFH’s.
jl
@Belafon: ” Also, GWB had someone take a picture of him and Bono with his phone, which he posted on instagram. ”
Nice that Dub could get a pic with a celeb!
Botsplainer
@Belafon:
I just figure that she’s like every other middle-aged woman – not only is she bound by rules of propriety that nobody but other middle-aged women care about, she expects her husband to give as much of a damn about those rules as she does and is irritated when he has a pleasant moment in seeming violation of those rules.
This is a corollary to a household rule at my home, discovered by my children – the sound of laughing children makes mom angry.
(Botsplainer ducks)
Chris
@Anybodybuther2016:
Wait until they find out that Reagan not only wasn’t a rude asshole to communist chiefs of state, but actually sat down and negotiated with several of them…
… wait. Reagan was white, wasn’t he? Never mind, they won’t find out.
Ash Can
@Suffern ACE: I can’t get too worked up about the selfie either, probably because I’ve grown up with a tradition of memorial events being equal parts solemnity and fellowship/celebration. During the service itself, yes, sit respectfully and listen and no i-phones. Before and after, however, by all means meet and greet. Since the Danish PM took the pic with Obama sitting there next to her (as opposed to on the stage waiting for his turn to speak or listening to the other speakers), it seems a good bet that there wasn’t anything of moment happening at the time. So why not?
Roger Moore
@Belafon:
Which shouldn’t be the least bit surprising. Politics is ultimately about people, so extroverts have a built-in advantage. Highly successful introverted politicians are extremely rare.
LanceThruster
…anyone but GOP WASPs (or their lackeys) in charge!
Heliopause
I’ll be honest, I was shocked by the handshake. The notion that you can shake hands with a country that has waged a 5 decade plus economic war on you, invaded you, attempted assassinations of your leaders, encouraged and shielded terrorists who have engaged in mass murder of your citizens is, well, shocking.
Mnemosyne
I was listening to the BBC World Service on the radio while running errands and they did a few “man in the street” interviews from Havana about The Handshake. It was basically what the rest of us are saying: it probably meant nothing, but it would be nice if it led to a thawing of relations. So who knows?
Mnemosyne
@Heliopause:
And yet Mandela shook hands with deClerk. Coincidence?
Cervantes
@Heliopause:
But perhaps less shocking at the funeral of one such as Nelson Mandela.
scav
Let us set quietly and listen to our cultured betters lecture us on the necessary dignity of behavior required at memorial events (c.f. Snowblower Cheney at Auschwitz) and with female heads of state (c.f. Fingers Forty-Three).
AdamK
Quiche.
Yatsuno
@Mnemosyne: You know what kicked off the thaw with Iran? We returned a chalice to them that had been sitting in a customs warehouse that had been stolen from them. The little gestures matter, even if they’re not flashy.
Sloane Ranger
Being British I was suprised by the informality of the entire event. Even on the platform people seemed to get up and wander around to chat with friends and acquantancies all the time even crossing behind the speaker. And the Stadium started emptying out after Obama’s speech. The BBC interviwed one guy who said that he had to go to work as the government hadn’t made it a National Holiday.The weather was awful too.
Mnemosyne
@Sloane Ranger:
Socially speaking, I wonder if it was considered more of a funeral/memorial service (which is formal and has a specific structure) or a wake/viewing, which is much more freewheeling because people wander in and out. You can still have speeches and prayers at a wake/viewing, so that wouldn’t necessarily turn it one way or the other.
(Not sure what they call it in Great Britain, but the wake/viewing is usually a day or two before the funeral and the family basically has an “open house” at a funeral home. This is essentially what we did for my dad, but we called it a “memorial,” which it really wasn’t, but it also wasn’t a wake/viewing because neither he nor his ashes were there.)
rodnchance
That is why John Cornyn cannot have sex with a Box Turtle
Teddy Salad
Transfats.
Sloane Ranger
@Mnemosyne: The Irish have wakes and some Scots may have as well. In England it’s more common for people to pay their respects privately at the undertakers before the funeral and then either return to the deceased home or a hired room for a cup of tea and a sandwich after the funeral. Alcohol may also be available but is not mandatory.
ruemara
@PurpleGirl: cocoa mint chip cookies. This was a test of my emergency cookie recipe recall system. Went well. No recipe followed beyond memory and new flavor innovated.
For those who like to bake:
2 sticks butter
2 cups brown sugar
Cream together
Add 1 teaspoon vanilla
In a separate bowl mix
2.25 cups of all purpose flour
.5 cups of good cocoa
.5 teaspoon of baking soda
~1 teaspoon sea salt
Dash of pumpkin spice
Add 2 large eggs to creamed sugar & butter. Fluff.
Slowly integrate cocoa flour mix with eggs & sugar.
Take about a cup or so of peppermint candies you smashed the bejeezus out of or be a fancy slacker with your fancy mint chips. Add that to the cookie dough. Mix well, bake at 350 for about 12-15 minutes-just pay attention, slacker. Makes… a lot. Bag, give away, dominate world. Your welcome. Tweak recipe with dried cranberries, white chocolate chips & Orange zest-no cocoa, for another type I made.
Mnemosyne
@Sloane Ranger:
As I mentioned above, my father-in-law scheduled his wake across the street from his favorite bar. But they’re Irish-American.
:-)
Mnemosyne
@ruemara:
I’m only pointing out that you posted this on the wrong thread because otherwise people will be mad you didn’t put it on the baking thread.
ruemara
@Mnemosyne: did it more in response to Mme. Purple. Also, too, I wear booty shorts, I do what I want!
Mnemosyne
@ruemara:
I’m just saying, when the other thread breaks out the pitchforks and torches, don’t come cryin’ to me.
ETA: I’m making figgy pudding tonight. We’ll see how it goes.
The Art of Compromise
@Roger Moore: you are so right. So why don’t progressives; liberals stop following the outrageous shiny objects and make the narrative about Reagan, Cheney and the like supporting apartheid and calling Mr. Mandela a terrorist, etc. Our posts and storylines should be about President Obama inspirational speech, ACA good stories, unemployment benefits, SNAP, judges being nominated, you get the point. Democrats govern for the majority of people and republicans obstruct and say stupid and outrageous things constantly.
Jebediah, RBG
@Mnemosyne:
I thought I read somewhere that his formal funeral would be in his home village.
Paul in KY
@Ash Can: Also, the memorial is about celebrating the life of a 95 year old man. Not like the funeral is for a child or young adult (a much more sad occasion).
I edited this post! 1st time being able to in about 3 weeks. FYWP.