Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

The current Supreme Court is a dangerous, rogue court.

This chaos was totally avoidable.

They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

Narcissists are always shocked to discover other people have agency.

If you are still in the gop, you are either an extremist yourself, or in bed with those who are.

They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.

It is possible to do the right thing without the promise of a cookie.

Live so that if you miss a day of work people aren’t hoping you’re dead.

“What are Republicans afraid of?” Everything.

The “burn-it-down” people are good with that until they become part of the kindling.

Just because you believe it, that does not make it true.

the 10% who apparently lack object permanence

“Loving your country does not mean lying about its history.”

Shut up, hissy kitty!

Museums are not America’s attic for its racist shit.

“But what about the lurkers?”

Pessimism assures that nothing of any importance will change.

The republican caucus is covering themselves with something, and it is not glory.

Come on, media. you have one job. start doing it.

If you cannot answer whether trump lost the 2020 election, you are unfit for office.

Prediction: the gop will rethink its strategy of boycotting future committees.

“When somebody takes the time to draw up a playbook, they’re gonna use it.”

This must be what justice looks like, not vengeful, just peaceful exuberance.

The Giant Orange Man Baby is having a bad day.

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  4. 4.

    Corner Stone

    I say he’s the greatest living Chicom mole ever to bang a totes hot pole dancing girlfriend in Hawaii.
    While we can’t know for sure, it’s clear we should speculate that The Smoking Man recruited him to pull docs from the NSA. But then the black liquid eyed aliens got wind of his existence and forced him to run to HK, then Russia!
    I heard from Andy K and VDE that Snowden is also doing gay snuff pron. With furries and, if the price is right (wink, wink) other special requests.

  6. 6.

    Skerry

    Airing of the grievances: Sitting here waiting on my ex-husband to show up. We have always done Christmas together with the kids. He was supposed to be here 4 hours ago. He is bring the meat for our meal, too. Not a very good Christmas so far. Kids aren’t little anymore, but come on. They don’t want to open presents without their dad here.

  8. 8.

    Yatsuno

    @Baud: He’d better keep his mitts off my Zoroastrianism dammit. That religion has fire, his hair weasel might get singed.

  9. 9.

    Botsplainer

    Awaiting the movement to substitute Griftwald, Snowjob, Assange and Ronaldus Magnus on Mt Rushmore in place of the failures depicted there now.

  10. 10.

    Dead Ernest (Thought wrangler)

    @Soonergrunt:

    SoonerG, gee, perhaps you were thinking if there were a few more threads (open or not) devoted to this subject, that maybe the other threads would be left alone?
    I think its a bit more like piling up extra shit and watermelon a few feet from the picnic table to keep the flies off it since they would have their own feast. I think you just end up with even more flies in your yard.
    None the less, I appreciate the effort.

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    Amir Khalid

    The kindest thing I can think about Ed Snowden is that he meant well, but chose a course of action that probably caused needless damage to his country’s interests while not helping his own credibility. Also, getting himself exiled from the US wasn’t too smart.

    Repost from previous thread:
    I’ve seen Captain Phillips, and I really like it. Best movie I’ve ever seen about a hostage situation; it rings true at every moment and never tries to dress reality up to create storytelling beats. Tom Hanks is superb as Phillips, and newcomer Barkhad Abdi is utterly believable as the lead pirate. (And comparisons between Abdi’s acting and Hanks’, claiming that the newbie blows the two-time Oscar winner away, are just stupid. Acting is not a competitive sport in that sense.)

  15. 15.

    Botsplainer

    @Skerry:

    In all seriousness, that sucks. You might want to rethink that tradition going forward. (25 years of family law practice speaking).

  18. 18.

    Botsplainer

    @Corner Stone:

    @Botsplainer: No, did you send them to Cole to forward to me?
    That would be awesome, dudebro! Thank you so much!

    Uh oh. Maybe they got, uh, diverted.

  21. 21.

    Soonergrunt

    @Dead Ernest (Thought wrangler): Alternately, you could recognize blindingly obvious snark when you read it and then talk about something you find interesting, the thread being open, and all.

    @Amir Khalid: I haven’t seen Captain Phillips. I’ll watch it when it comes to HBO or PPV. On a side note, there’s still some question about what happened to all the money that was taken from the ship’s safe (several thousand dollars) and was taken into the lifeboat by the pirates, as I understand it. I don’t know the story, but the speculation ranges from Phillips having taken it to one or more of the SEALs having taken it. If the latter is true, they’ll get caught, eventually. I’d like to believe that nobody did anything wrong, but that’s usually not the way the world works out.

  23. 23.

    Villago Delenda Est

    Ahem.

    Alex Jones is the greatest living American and the greatest American of all time.

    According to Alex Jones, in his own little world of paisley skies and unicorns.

  27. 27.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Yatsuno:

    Surely there must be a floating building somewhere that can be maneuvered over Rand Paul and then stop floating, making the world a much better place.

  29. 29.

    ruemara

    I had a girlfriend come over for a bit of holiday and made her get up early because she was sleeping next to the kitchen and I got up to bake paleobiscuits and cook bacon and brussel sprouts. Then I made her a batch of healthy 2 ingredient cookies, only I tripped and accidentally spilled a whole bag of peanut butter chips into the batter. Whoops. I wish she could have stayed longer. I took her out to see where the wild turkeys nest and they showed up 10 minutes after I put her back on the train. All in all, most excellent holiday.

    @Villago Delenda Est: You have interesting ideas and I’d like to subscribe to your newsletter. But I do think that counts as cruelty to buildings.

  30. 30.

    Botsplainer

    “Ed Snowden is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.”

  31. 31.

    hoodie

    @Amir Khalid: We enjoyed Captain Phillips. You’re right about Hanks and Abdi, both excellent in their own ways. Interesting juxtaposition of Phillips going on the lifeboat to protect his crew, and the Abdi character abandoning it to save his own ass (the latter a fine example of Randian ethics). The SEALs were scary good at their job (if the account is to be believed), can’t imagine making those shots under those conditions.

  33. 33.

    gogol's wife

    My cats are sensing that invaders are coming into their realm in just half an hour. They are nervous and antsy and driving me nuts. But as soon as a strange human enters, they will cease to give any signs of life. Louis will go in the bedroom closet and Sasha will curl up under twelve blankets in the upstairs study.

    Merry Christmas, everyone! Or whatever you may be celebrating.

  36. 36.

    danielx

    Surely you jest….everybody knows that Dick Cheney….er, Bush, George W. Bush! is the greatest living American and was teh GRATEST PREZNIT EVAR.

    Just ask somebody. Anybody. Anybody?

  39. 39.

    Dead Ernest

    @Soonergrunt:

    Shucks. Looks like we crossed the streams (of irony). While I don’t think I’d combine ‘obviously’ and ‘blinding’ myself, I was attempting to leverage what you said, to amplify *my interest* in diminishing the overwhelming of Open Threads (by those people) with those comments.

    I accept that I failed.
    ::looks at own shoes. Shuffles away::

  40. 40.

    Roy G.

    Why not change things up and have a jack0ff session for all of the Keith Alexander fanbois that infest these threads? Some good hard authoritarian love and Total Information Dominance from a man in uniform ought to cure those nasty thoughts about Snowden.

  41. 41.

    Felonius Monk

    Too bad Ed Snowden isn’t a real, true patriotic American like Phil Robertson ’cause Freedom and Duck Dynasty.

  42. 42.

    lol

    Why haven’t we gotten a Christmas message from Snowden’s fellow whistleblower, Aldrich Ames? Probably because Obummer still has him jailed as a political prisoner.

  44. 44.

    Dead Ernest (Thought Wrangler)

    @Dead Ernest:
    .. Still an aspiring Thought Wrangler, but like what can happen to the other rodeo clowns, sometimes the Thoughts wrangle back …and best ya.
    Wrangling Thoughts is tricky.
    No idea how them Thought Leaders pull that off (unless the thoughts are sickly, weak, and you just gotta lead em to the abattoir).

  50. 50.

    Arclite

    So, Ed Snowden–Greatest Living American, or Greatest American of All Time?

    Nope, Glenn Greenwald.

  51. 51.

    maya

    Let’s just leave it at “American of the Century”. Who knows who Ayn Rand will inspire long after we’re Monsanto Meal.

  52. 52.

    Corner Stone

    Man, how exactly did the unabomber go through all this beard growing bullshit?
    I miss a couple days of shaving and it’s like all crazytown up in this piece.
    How do you bearded wisemen/wisewomen of BJ freakin’ stand it?

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