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Food, Football, etc. (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  December 29, 201310:04 pm| 116 Comments

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So I made the cannolis. They’re not bad, but next time I’ll cook the shells longer and put more orange zest in the filling.

I’m half watching the ‘Boys-Iggles game and reading a book, “Wild,” by Cheryl Strayed. It’s a memoir about the author hiking the Pacific Crest Trail while attempting to get her shit together following some traumatic life events.

I could use some time alone on a trail in a howling wilderness to think things over. But I’m too attached to cannolis, coffee, wine, etc., to ever commit to such a journey. A leisurely stroll on the beach followed by a nice red zin, a cheese plate and a bowl game is more my speed.

Have you ever taken an arduous journey of self discovery? Got any playoff predictions or cannoli filling insights?

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  1. 1.

    Corner Stone

    December 29, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    Have you ever taken an arduous journey of self discovery?

    Yes.

  2. 2.

    billB

    December 29, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    I urge you all to tune in monday for the great and mighty Oregon Ducks as they crush [or lose to] The Texas College Futbol Team.
    Go Duckers!

  3. 3.

    EriktheRed

    December 29, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    Yesterday when I was driving into the big city (Chicago) I saw some guys hanging out on an overpass I was driving under with great big “IMPEACH OBAMA” signs. It brought a smile to my face when I put my hand out the window and flipped them the bird.

    Just thought I’d share that with ya, folks.

  4. 4.

    lamh36

    December 29, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    Kennedy Center Honors on CBS. 8pm CST. I DVR’d it, so I’m an hour behind, but I’ll just FF through commercials.

    I was too busy, I watching Dirty Dancing on VH1…again.

    Just saying, first of all Baby is like 17! Johnny was too damn old for her. He’s got to be like 35 if he’s a day. And now that I think about it, that makes me feel REALLY old! Damnit! I know, I know, she’s 17 going on 18 according to my sister Jessica, and she’s saying Johnny was in his late 20s…shoot, dude looked like he was at least 35.

    Dirty Dancing is off now, but Le sigh. In my little teenage heart, I totally imagine that Baby and Johnny ran off and got married. She became a lawyer and he opened a dance studio and they had a bus load of kids and they all became dancers and started their own dance crew…it could happen…lol

    My lil sister disagrees. She thinks Baby gets preggo and their life as a traveling dance duo couldn’t support their kids and then they died young…lol. And I’m supposed to be the old and cynical one. She’s supposed to be young and hopeful…lol

  5. 5.

    currants

    December 29, 2013 at 10:13 pm

    No to all of the above.

    But if anyone has a black-eyed pea recipe they’d be willing to share (so I can make it for New Year’s), I’d be happy with that. For now.

    ETA preferably one they’ve made and liked A LOT. First time, here.

  6. 6.

    Gin & Tonic

    December 29, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    “Cannoli” is a plural noun.

    /pedant

  7. 7.

    phoebes-in-santa fe

    December 29, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    @billB: “Leave the gun, take the cannoli”

  8. 8.

    lgerard

    December 29, 2013 at 10:16 pm

    Best cannoli filling

    toasted pine nuts
    bit o’ Frangelica

  9. 9.

    phoebes-in-santa fe

    December 29, 2013 at 10:17 pm

    “Leave the gun, take the cannoli”

    One of the best lines ever.

  10. 10.

    Pogonip

    December 29, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    The arduous journeys I’ve taken kept me too busy for self-discovery.

  11. 11.

    ranchandsyrup

    December 29, 2013 at 10:19 pm

    I went kayaking with these two today.

  12. 12.

    Botsplainer

    December 29, 2013 at 10:21 pm

    Wife did 2/3 of the Camino de Santiago de Compostela (the movie “The Way” covered it) with her sister a couple of years ago – she really enjoyed it. I may join her for the whole thing in a few years.

    For me, my head clearing thing is scuba – there’s something special about it, puts me in touch with myself, especially on a night or dawn dive.

  13. 13.

    JordanRules

    December 29, 2013 at 10:22 pm

    Buddy Guy is killing it right now. I love Kennedy Center Honors. So much talent in a celebratory mood, great art and fun cover band configurations.

    The First Lady looks especially radiant tonight!

  14. 14.

    Helen

    December 29, 2013 at 10:23 pm

    @ranchandsyrup: OK so that baby kinda loves that dog; like about, an infinity.

  15. 15.

    lamh36

    December 29, 2013 at 10:24 pm

    @JordanRules: yes sir, I was just talking about him. I’m 1 hour behind here in CST, but I guess it’s just coming on on the West coast right?

    BTW, Am I the only one who thought Steve Winwood was like IDK, dead or something…

  16. 16.

    Villago Delenda Est

    December 29, 2013 at 10:24 pm

    Playoff predictions: All fall before the mighty Seachickens!

  17. 17.

    Mj_Oregon

    December 29, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    Iggles will lose, alas.

  18. 18.

    rikyrah

    December 29, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    @currants:
    Do you mean something other than the usual recipe of soaking dried peas overnight, and then cooking them with garlic, crushed red pepper, salt to taste, along with a hamhock?
    Serving them with cornbread and giardenera.
    You mean there is another way to eat them?

    If you don’t do pork, then use smoked turkey wings. Cook them low and slow, for at least 2 and a half hours
    One. Hour in, stir in a mixture of corn starch and cold water to thicken up the liquid

  19. 19.

    Spirula

    December 29, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    Got any playoff predictions?

    yes. in each game, a team will win.

    what can i say? i took statistics in grad school and learned to play the best bet.

  20. 20.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 29, 2013 at 10:27 pm

    @lamh36: Steve Winwood started in the music business when he was still a teen.

  21. 21.

    JordanRules

    December 29, 2013 at 10:28 pm

    @lamh36: Yup, just started here.

    Ha, I didn’t think he’d gone home but I surely forgot about him and I’d forgot that for a quick minute when I was around 10, I wanted to be a drummer because of Sheila Escovedo.

    Justice Sotomayer!!!

  22. 22.

    Spirula

    December 29, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    also too, comma and block quote fail. but they didn’t teach that in statistics so i blame society.

  23. 23.

    lamh36

    December 29, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: ahh. so like Michael Jackson, he started so young, it just seems like he’d been around forever.

    But if you started at say 11 like Stevie Wonder, who’s only 63, but he’s been around for over 50 years.

  24. 24.

    Betty Cracker

    December 29, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    @ranchandsyrup: Aw, cute! The dog looks like my aunt’s old Rhodesian ridgeback pup.

    @Botsplainer: I used to do a LOT of SCUBA diving, but lately I just snorkel if I even get in the water at all.

  25. 25.

    lamh36

    December 29, 2013 at 10:34 pm

    @JordanRules: tell ya what though, I could totally have done without Bill O’Reilly, but meh, I guess he and Herbie Hancock are friends????

    Bleh.

  26. 26.

    Tommy

    December 29, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    I’ll have to pick up that book, cause A Walk in the Woods: Rediscovering America on the Appalachian Trail is a stunning read. A pretty out of shape author that just figured he’d try it, years and years ago before it became kind of hip to do.

  27. 27.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    December 29, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    @efgoldman:

    cannolus

    If we’re going to start using Latin spelling here I’d better brush up. Don’t want to spell “Romans go home” the wrong way.

    Italian: Cannolo
    Sicilian: Cannolu
    US: Corn Dog

  28. 28.

    Dead Ernest (Thought Wrangler)

    December 29, 2013 at 10:36 pm

    Betty;

    “Have you ever taken an arduous journey of self discovery?”

    If this whole damn relentless series of rabbit punches and Sideshow Bob Rake Garden strolls of my life is not gonna, at the least, ‘pay-off’ with some “so I got that going for me.” Improved awareness … Well, fuck it, I will not be coming back. Everybody can go find some other Bodhisattva-in-training moron.

  29. 29.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    December 29, 2013 at 10:40 pm

    @lamh36: Stevie Winwood has had that effect on people for years. The secret to it all was that he was 15 when the Spencer Davis Group formed and maybe 16 or 17 when he wrote and sang “Gimmie Some Lovin” and so on. So when you’d see him many years later and he seemed about 30, which didn’t compute, actually he was, and it did.

    Edit: Hadn’t seen your reply. Yep.

  30. 30.

    Tommy

    December 29, 2013 at 10:41 pm

    Have you ever taken an arduous journey of self discovery?

    I wimped out. My boss was cool with it. Taking six months off. Had all the ultra-light camping gear. Had my food packaged and ready to mail by my friends to places I’d drop off the Appalachian Trail.

    But then the dot.com thing happened. Lost my job. Never did it. Maybe sometime in the future, cause I do like to walk :)!

  31. 31.

    Amir Khalid

    December 29, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    I know there aren’t many Formula 1 (or even motor sports) enthusiasts here, but we should still note that F1 legend Michael Schumacher is comatose and in critical condition with serious brain trauma, after he hit his head on a rock while skiing.

  32. 32.

    Betty Cracker

    December 29, 2013 at 10:43 pm

    O Iggles! You dumb fucks!

  33. 33.

    kdaug

    December 29, 2013 at 10:43 pm

    arduous journey of self discovery

    Reckon I’m on one now.

  34. 34.

    Yatsuno

    December 29, 2013 at 10:44 pm

    @Spirula: The NFL allows ties, though I don’t think that rule applies in the playoffs. That would be odd if every team tied out though. How do you determine the advancers?

  35. 35.

    lamh36

    December 29, 2013 at 10:45 pm

    I love this telecast of Kenendy Center Honors for the sight of FLOTUS and POTUS rockin’ to Snoop Dogg tribute to Herbie Hancock. FLOTUS of course throws her hands in the air, but POTUS is rockin’ to it, but he’s like aww no ya’ll ain’t gonna catch me with my hands in the air, but I’m AM still jammin.

  36. 36.

    khead

    December 29, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    I’m so fucking tired of watching QB sneak fail. That’s at least the third one I’ve seen today.

    Hand the fucking ball to the guy that is paid to run the ball.

  37. 37.

    Betty Cracker

    December 29, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    @Amir Khalid: I have no idea who that is, but I hope he recovers fully. Skiing seems more dangerous than swimming with gators.

  38. 38.

    Suffern ACE

    December 29, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    @Yatsuno: AFC uses tug of war. NFC has a caber toss.

  39. 39.

    lamh36

    December 29, 2013 at 10:49 pm

    @NerdyWonka 1m
    Pres. Obama aka President of the Cool likes Breaking Bad, Downton Abbey, The Wire, Boardwalk Empire, House of Cards. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/30/us/obamas-tv-picks-anything-edgy-with-hints-of-reality.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hp …

    What Obama Watches on TV

    New York Times: “These days, when Mr. Obama retreats to the White House residence after a long day on the other end of the colonnade, he is working his way through the DVD box set of AMC’s Breaking Bad, the award-winning TV drama about a drug-dealing high school teacher. The show just ended after five seasons, but the president is way behind and frequently reminds those around him not to give anything away.”

    “Friends say Mr. Obama is also keenly awaiting the new season of the Netflix show House of Cards, which starkly depicts a dysfunctional Washington — a theme that must seem all too familiar. At a meeting of technology executives last week, Mr. Obama jokingly lamented his own inability to maneuver the halls of Congress in the way of Kevin Spacey’s character, Frank Underwood.”

  40. 40.

    Betty Cracker

    December 29, 2013 at 10:49 pm

    @khead: Right? Everyone would be shocked if the running back gets the damn ball!

  41. 41.

    Amir Khalid

    December 29, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    @Betty Cracker:
    A similar skiing injury killed Liam Neeson’s wife, the actress Natasha Richardson.

  42. 42.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    December 29, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    @lamh36:

    at say 11 like Stevie Wonder

    Reflecting on this a little, I think the difference is that we knew Stevie was so young, billed as “Little Stevie Wonder” and all that, they made a big thing of his youth. So it was like watching a child actor grow up, for me anyway, you sort of keep track and aren’t that surprised.

    With Winwood he had this somewhat grainy, lived-in sounding voice, and most people in the US at least never saw what he looked like, so just assumed it was a much more mature person. Thus so many years later, having this 30 year old appear, and a youthful looking one at that, (far left) was just weird.

  43. 43.

    Leia Smith

    December 29, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    @ranchandsyrup: Is that a red heeler?

  44. 44.

    khead

    December 29, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Eagles deserve to lose after that shit.

    I still have hope after Dallas was also too stupid to hand the ball off on their 4th and 1 though.

    Eagles win by > 6.5 = $600. Go Delaware Sports Lottery.

  45. 45.

    The Dangerman

    December 29, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    What kind of horseshit call is that Garrett? 4th and 1 and you have your second stringer in…

    …and you call rollout?

    Yuck.

  46. 46.

    ? Martin

    December 29, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Yeah, I saw that. Really terrible. Apparently he got up and shook it off, but later collapsed due to brain swelling. The surgery was to reduce pressure. Hopefully not much damage was done.

    Shame he could go so many years, including some of the really terrible times in the sport, racing around at 200+ MPH and only really get injured while skiing recreationally.

    I was never a Schumacher fan, but he’s unquestionably one of the best drivers of all time. I think Vettel is going to destroy all of his records, though.

  47. 47.

    Betty Cracker

    December 29, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    @lamh36: Sounds like the prez has good taste in TV shows. I bet Bush watched Teletubbies…and had to have someone explain it to him!

  48. 48.

    lamh36

    December 29, 2013 at 10:55 pm

    @Betty Cracker: ha! With the new painting, I see him watching that PBS show with that white dude with the big afro and the soft voice who always painting landscapes

  49. 49.

    mclaren

    December 29, 2013 at 10:55 pm

    Cannoli secret of the day:

    Cardiovascular specialists call cannoli “heart attack on a plate.” Try eating healthier.

  50. 50.

    Betty Cracker

    December 29, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    @Amir Khalid: I remember that. Very sad.

  51. 51.

    ranchandsyrup

    December 29, 2013 at 10:59 pm

    @Leia Smith: yep a red heeler. Too smart for his own good but he’s a great dog.

  52. 52.

    Tommy

    December 29, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    @mclaren: I am not a vegetarian but almost at times. See I eat really healthy so when I want to eat something so terrible for me, well it isn’t as bad :).

  53. 53.

    Leia Smith

    December 29, 2013 at 11:03 pm

    @ranchandsyrup: I have a blue heeler. Best dogs ever. I adopted my Maisie after reading about John’s adoption of Lily. Hadn’t had a dog since my teens. She has been a good teacher, sweet and like my own shadow!

  54. 54.

    Betty Cracker

    December 29, 2013 at 11:03 pm

    @lamh36: True story: about 20 years ago, my father and that painter dude almost came to blows because the painter set up his easel and camera crew at my dad’s place of business and wouldn’t move.

  55. 55.

    kc

    December 29, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    Have you ever taken an arduous journey of self discovery?

    Nah

  56. 56.

    lamh36

    December 29, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    @Betty Cracker: wow. that painter guys seemed too mellow to even be into fistacuffs…lol.

    I’m trying to remember his name without googling it. It’s at the tip of my brain too.

  57. 57.

    Betty Cracker

    December 29, 2013 at 11:05 pm

    @mclaren: You must be a lot of fun at parties. When you crash them.

  58. 58.

    Spirula

    December 29, 2013 at 11:05 pm

    @Yatsuno: my comment was made in jest.
    the guys at the local drinking establishment tried to get me in on their local pool on the bcs bowl games. i declined. sure, it is certainly a safer bet than on something like the lotto, but the math always works out the same… it really boils down to how willing you are to part with your money.
    me…i’d rather buy food and beer.
    (granted it is anecdotal, but my observation has been that those individuals who have paid less attention to the sport/teams often win the pool. this causes no end of ranting from the “experts” in the pool. quite amusing.)

  59. 59.

    Yatsuno

    December 29, 2013 at 11:06 pm

    @mclaren: Then why the fuck is Fat Tony Scalia still alive?

  60. 60.

    Betty Cracker

    December 29, 2013 at 11:06 pm

    @lamh36: Bob Ross.

  61. 61.

    JordanRules

    December 29, 2013 at 11:06 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Your dad almost fought Bob Ross?? That is freaking fantastic!!

    Watching him relaxes me.

  62. 62.

    Corner Stone

    December 29, 2013 at 11:07 pm

    Has anyone ever thought about chipping Jason Witten off the line?

  63. 63.

    lamh36

    December 29, 2013 at 11:08 pm

    @Betty Cracker: THANK YOU!

    Wow. How out of his “mellow” was Bob if he was ready to blow back at your dad…lol

  64. 64.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    December 29, 2013 at 11:09 pm

    @mclaren: Heart disease rates in Italy are much lower than in the US. Lots of people are questioning old ideas about what causes heart disease in general, even cholesterol isn’t so certain to be the culprit now.

    Actually there is one clear culprit, as described in the following:

    The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than the British or Americans.

    The French eat a lot of fat, and also suffer fewer heart attacks than the British or Americans.

    The Japanese drink very little red wine, and suffer fewer heart attacks than the British or Americans.

    The Italians drink lots of red wine, and also suffer fewer heart attacks than the British or Americans.

    Conclusion: Eat and drink what you like. It’s speaking English that kills you.

  65. 65.

    lamh36

    December 29, 2013 at 11:09 pm

    Steve Winwood for Santana

    Don Henley for Billy Joel

    It’s raiing gray-haired white rockers at the KennedyCenerHonors tributes this year…lol

  66. 66.

    Corner Stone

    December 29, 2013 at 11:10 pm

    That was straight balls.

  67. 67.

    ranchandsyrup

    December 29, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    @Leia Smith: that’s awesome! Same thing for me, my first dog as an adult. He’s almost 10 now. He’s great with our kids too (obvs from pics).

  68. 68.

    Corner Stone

    December 29, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim: Hola Fruta!

  69. 69.

    Spirula

    December 29, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    @lamh36: Bob Ross

  70. 70.

    Helen

    December 29, 2013 at 11:12 pm

    @Dead Ernest (Thought Wrangler): ‘kay so calm down. But YEAH. If we are all (or all a lot of us) athiests. how this life is gonna turn out is kinda irrelevant. This life is not gonna “turn out”. It’s gonna end. As in: the end. We are worm food. Not that we should not be kind to those around us, but it ain’t gonna help us at the worm food stage.

    Betty’s self discovery? Meh. I think you probably mean, not self discovery but more – what do you wanna do, like every day if you did not have to go to work. I’ve done that. And the answer was Piss around, sleep late, read a lot, hang with my friends, eat, and oh yeah, sleep late. Considering we are all worm food anyway – that’s not “self-discovery” It’s……I dunno.

    Also – Stevie Wonder: “For Once in My Life” one of the best songs EVA

  71. 71.

    Spirula

    December 29, 2013 at 11:13 pm

    oops! Betty was there first.

  72. 72.

    Tommy

    December 29, 2013 at 11:13 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim: When I see those studies I don’t know what to think. Personally early in my life I used to be 100 pounds more than I am now. And that was a lot of weight for a 5’4 male. Now only 132. Not 250+.

    I ponder what I eat and how I work out 24/7.

    Maybe I just found what works for me but I eat a ton of pasta/rice and raw veggies. I only eat meat a few times a week, but I got no issues with meat. I just find I don’t need it every meal.

  73. 73.

    ? Martin

    December 29, 2013 at 11:13 pm

    @lamh36: Bob Ross is an unexpected part of the ASMR world.

    Stumbled across that article when it was published, shared it with my wife, she mentioned it to our daughter who belted out an ‘Oh, yeah, ASMR – I listen to those in order to go to sleep. Bob Ross is really calming…’

    Didn’t see that one coming, I tell you.

    @Betty Cracker: He died about 20 years ago. Not saying your dad is responsible, but, well, it’d be irresponsible not to speculate.

  74. 74.

    lamh36

    December 29, 2013 at 11:14 pm

    @ReignOfApril 1m
    Look at all those courageous veterans on the stage. Well done, #KCHonors. Folks don’t know how much @billyjoel has done.<

    Oh and I know Rufus Wainwright is gay, but I heart him sooo much.

  75. 75.

    Leia Smith

    December 29, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    @ranchandsyrup: Maisie was rescued from a hoarder, so I am not sure how old she is, but the vet guesses 11 or so. I’d link a pic but I don’t know how. She is so smart that she has taught herself tricks.

  76. 76.

    lamh36

    December 29, 2013 at 11:19 pm

    So…Billy Joel was from NYC…whoda none it from his songbook…lol.

  77. 77.

    Corner Stone

    December 29, 2013 at 11:20 pm

    HOLY SHIT!

  78. 78.

    Suffern ACE

    December 29, 2013 at 11:20 pm

    Man, people who painted with Bob don’t need to take no journeys of self discovery. The sojourners would visit them eventually. Draw a happy cloud.

  79. 79.

    Corner Stone

    December 29, 2013 at 11:21 pm

    I wanted Kyle Orton to play well, but also wanted Dallas to lose.
    So, this is kind of awkward, either way I guess.

  80. 80.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    December 29, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    @Tommy: It’s a very large and hoary topic. People where I live most of the time eat as much meat as they want, chocolate, drink wine, and on the whole are still infinitely less obese and dying of heart attacks than those in the US. It’s much more a matter of fresh, home-cooked food though and less processed food, and in fact the situation for them is changing (for the worse) which seems to coincide exactly with the rise of fast food and US-style eating habits. So, I know what I think.

    I found this book eye-opening, seemed to at least sort of explain how these things could all be true. Taubes was one of the very the best science writers out there, before he even wrote about this subject, so he had a lot of cred for me going in.

  81. 81.

    Comrade Mary

    December 29, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    @efgoldman: Great. Now I have this stuck in my head. (Summary for those of you without 8 minutes to spare.)

  82. 82.

    ranchandsyrup

    December 29, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    @Leia Smith: so many shenanigans with the cattle dogs. Glad you found yours. :)

  83. 83.

    Betty Cracker

    December 29, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    @? Martin: Yeah, he died a couple of years after the incident with my dad. No direct corollation as far as we know. I blame cannolis.

  84. 84.

    Spirula

    December 29, 2013 at 11:24 pm

    @JordanRules: me too. is that a sign of the onset of dementia? but i was always irritated by his close fitting shirts. maybe that is a sign too.

  85. 85.

    Corner Stone

    December 29, 2013 at 11:24 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim: Isn’t there something about overall portion size/control?

  86. 86.

    Steeplejack

    December 29, 2013 at 11:25 pm

    @lamh36:

    [. . .] that white dude with the big afro and the soft voice who always painting landscapes.

    Rusty Sienna! (Not really his name, but there is a comic strip that has a TV painter guy with that name, which I always thought was hilarious.)

    ETA: When I lived in Atlanta there was a local PBS show called Quilting with Georgia Bonesteel, and I was never able to figure out whether that was the name of the host or of a quilting tool.

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    currants

    December 29, 2013 at 11:26 pm

    @rikyrah: Thank you!

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    lamh36

    December 29, 2013 at 11:26 pm

    Alright, I’m off to bed now.

    Spend most of my day with my baby Maddie. We went shoe shopping as my belated Christmas present for her.

    I bought her a pair of white and pink Princess Sofia tennis shoes and some black boots. She really loved the tennis shoes. They light up as she walks. She kept stomping around to see them light up. Told my mom that she was gonna run out the battery before the day was over.

    Best thing about moving back to Louisiana, Maddie knows who I am except she even knows to call her “nanny” when she wants something…lol

    Next request…Chuck E Cheese for her birthday next month.

    Check out Maddie’s new kicks

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    handsmile

    December 29, 2013 at 11:29 pm

    Not so very arduous, but a journey of self-discovery nevertheless: after crashing and burning in my freshman year of college, I spent the next year traveling by myself across Canada, from the Maritimes to the Yukon. Visited/lived in every province but the Northwest Territories.

    Concluded that journey in northern California to view Christo’s “Running Fence,” the truly most spectacular work of art I’ve ever encountered. Returned home to Massachusetts to work for another year and then re-enrolled. No longer planned to become a lawyer.

    There are, in fact, two cannoli from De Robertis’ Pasticerria (East Village, NYC) now lurking in my refrigerator. Soon there will be just one.

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    Tommy

    December 29, 2013 at 11:31 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim: It is a very hard topic. One I rarely touch, cause you will piss somebody off.

    I follow what you said, fresh food you cook. Not something out of a can or in your microwave. I mentioned I eat a ton of pasta and rice, but also bread. I know so many people on these carb diets and it makes no sense to me. My experience is carbs provide energy and if you eat them earlier in the day. Not a huge plate of pasta before bed, but that really goes for any meal.

    What I found works for me, and when I lost all that weight I starved myself (not something I’d suggest), but as also a small guy, I don’t need huge meals to fill myself up.

    My parents who are both, how do I say it, obese, think I don’t eat enough. I try to explain I monitor what I eat closely and maybe they should eat less. That never goes over well, but alas I hope they live a lot longer and well …. all that weight makes that less likely.

    But I’ve come to think, in a long winded way, that my body might not be the same as yours. What works for me might not work for you or this or that person. IMHO you have to work with your body. Your lifestyle and figure out what will work for you.

    We are not all the same.

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    StringOnAStick

    December 29, 2013 at 11:32 pm

    @Amir Khalid: This head injury from a ski accident stuff is why I quit skiing at ski areas years ago. Now, if I want to ski it I have to climb up it first. Ski areas are where you can get hit by a speeding snow riders playing beyond their skill level; I’ve seen it and had it happen to me or friends too damned many times. I’d rather sweat it up hill and even deal with the occasional less than ideal conditions than deal with the frenzy that is a ski area.

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    ? Martin

    December 29, 2013 at 11:33 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim: There was an interesting article suggesting that it was the combination of fat and rapidly digestible sugar (mostly in liquid form – soda, etc.) that was the culprit. That’s really the backbone of the fast food diet – fat + liquid sugar – that the liquid sugar hits the body so quickly, without the time benefit of digestion of natural sugars, that the body has no ability to process it so it just stores it as quickly as it can – and has plenty of fat available to make that happen. And it doesn’t matter what form the sugar is in – natural or artificial – the body treats them the same.

    In the cultures you mention above, they have one or the other, but not both. The US is somewhat unique in that respect.

    I’ll note anecdotally that I cut out liquid sugar from my diet – no soda or artificially sweetened juices or shakes, etc. I’ll have some ice cream, but that’s it. Mostly it’s decaf coffee and tea, water, 100% juices, milk. As soon as I did that I started dropping weight. Kept the rest of my diet the same. I walk more, but even so, I didn’t cut enough calories or add enough exercise to explain the weight loss. At first I was losing 10,000 calories in weight a week. That’s like 14 miles a day walking. I walk at most 5 miles.

  93. 93.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    December 29, 2013 at 11:35 pm

    @Corner Stone: Definitely. Though there’s something subtle and hard to explain related to that, having to do with not avoiding real, intense, food, and therefore leaving satisfied, thus not nibbling/snacking to make up for it. So I watch my friend, who’s almost underweight, certainly not over, in any case, and generally healthy — scarf down duck with a rich sauce, bread, butter, and a very rich dessert, however these are smallish portions of each, by US standards, and then perhaps feeling satisfied and not grazing all the next day to make up for feeling unsatisfied.

    That’s my own private theory, I really think it’s a matter of them not being afraid of food. Plus the “whole grain” obsession on our side, I really do think that’s part of it. We overdo it.

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    Tommy

    December 29, 2013 at 11:39 pm

    @? Martin: Oh don’t get me started on soda. I don’t mean to sound like I am this “special” person. The rare time I buy a 12-pack of Dr. Pepper I can drink them all in like a single day. I have no will power.

    So I don’t buy them. I find I have more will power when I am in the store shopping compared to how I am when I get home.

    When my parents come stay with me they travel with soda, candy, and chips. I refuse to let them in my household when they are not here cause I know myself. I don’t have the will power.

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    Dead Ernest (Thought Wrangler)

    December 29, 2013 at 11:45 pm

    @Helen:

    @Dead Ernest (Thought Wrangler): ‘kay so calm down.

    Hi Helen.
    Thanks but, in truth, I ain’t distressed yet.
    More having some fun with the concept of: ‘life… arduous …self-discovery …purpose’
    After all, there a Simpsons reference, another for Bill Murray.
    How distressed can someone be while quoting Caddyshack?
    Cheers.

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    Corner Stone

    December 29, 2013 at 11:46 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim: I haven’t had the opportunity to live extensively overseas as you have. But, in my limited exposure, the people I know always exclaim at the plate sizes aka the portions they have placed in front of them. It’s like we’re asking them to eat a meal and also wrap up a snack for later.

  97. 97.

    Tommy

    December 29, 2013 at 11:52 pm

    @Corner Stone: The plate sizes in America blow my mind. My brother and his wife live near an Outback. We went there for dinner the other day. I ordered the Salmon filet with a side of veggies and a baked potato.

    They bring me my salad, and I don’t eat out often, and I was like that is an entire meal by itself. I don’t even need the main dish. Now clearly as I have mentioned I am a pretty small guy. I get a much larger and even fit man might want this much food, but I was like WTF. Really.

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    Helen

    December 29, 2013 at 11:53 pm

    @Dead Ernest (Thought Wrangler): Holy shit so I missed an entire pop culture reference? I (we here) discussed this last night. I am the most backwards stupidest pop culture person ever. So YAY you. Glad you are A-OK.

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    Helen

    December 29, 2013 at 11:57 pm

    @Helen: Oh Also – I met Bill Murray in person. He filmed that movie — you know the one – the one with the family – with Gen Hackman (NOT pop culture) and Gwyenth Paltrow (Yes POP culture) in the building I worked in. Yeah – I am “with it”

  100. 100.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    December 30, 2013 at 12:02 am

    @Corner Stone: Oh definitely. I mean, me too, I’m Stateside now and haven’t eaten out that much but when I do, my jaw drops at the amount they give me.

    I just think it’s related to this other thing, one affects the other. If you have small intense portions of rich food, you don’t crave mountains of it. One trend affects the other.

    It’s sort of like drinking in the UK, friends there tell me the binge mentality largely came from misguided attempts to reduce drinking by forcing the pubs to close at 11. So for years people ordered five pints at 10:45, then threw half of them up on the sidewalk at 11:10.

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    PurpleGirl

    December 30, 2013 at 12:08 am

    @efgoldman: Did he learn his history from The Highlander?

  102. 102.

    Betty Cracker

    December 30, 2013 at 12:12 am

    @Helen: “The Royal Tennenbaums.” I love that movie.

  103. 103.

    MomSense

    December 30, 2013 at 12:13 am

    I could do with a little less arduous but the thought of a journey sounds pretty great. I’ve been dreaming a bit about the idea of a retreat just for me.

  104. 104.

    Tommy

    December 30, 2013 at 12:16 am

    @Bill E Pilgrim: This summer I went to TGI Fridays with a client. Where she wanted to go and I was buying :) I like fried food as much as the next guy and ordered the chicken tenders. The amount of french fries that came with the dish was like a meal or two for me. I was stunned. I’ve ranted on portions here but I can’t get away from it. This was lunch time. If I ate all the food I was served, for like $7.75, I’d have to go home and power nap. I’d be food drunk. Makes no sense to me.

  105. 105.

    ruemara

    December 30, 2013 at 12:17 am

    @Bill E Pilgrim: Stealing this.

  106. 106.

    Helen

    December 30, 2013 at 12:20 am

    @Betty Cracker: Yep that’s it. Wasn’t crazy about the movie but spying things in my very very old building was fun. I actually worked in a building where there was an elevator operator who had a crank that moved the elevator up or down. GOOD TIMES.

  107. 107.

    Dead Ernest (Thought Wrangler)

    December 30, 2013 at 12:27 am

    @Helen:

    Well, two if I sneaked both the Simpsons & Caddyshack past you.

    I think I’m terrifically humorous …which could be the reason (or result) of my spending so much time by myself.

    You met Bill?!!
    I’m envious. Seems as I grow older, celebrities are less compelling for me. But you met Bill?!! He’s not just a celebrity, he’s a Thought Wrangler’s icon.

  108. 108.

    cckids

    December 30, 2013 at 1:08 am

    @Bill E Pilgrim:

    when I do, my jaw drops at the amount they give me.

    We went to Macaroni Grill with some friends; my son ordered the spaghetti & meatballs. I swear, the amount of pasta they brought him could have EASILY fed our family of 4. It was a little obscene.

  109. 109.

    Lurker

    December 30, 2013 at 7:16 am

    @? Martin:

    Apparently, Schumacher is in an induced coma. Neurologists don’t yet know the extent of the damage to his brain. Cross my fingers that he gets through it.

  110. 110.

    Matt McIrvin

    December 30, 2013 at 7:23 am

    @cckids: I had the flipside experience: going to Barcelona and eating in restaurants there, noticing that the portions they gave you always looked oddly small, and then realizing that they weren’t small: they were the right size to actually finish in a meal and feel satisfied. They were small compared to gigantic US restaurant portions.

  111. 111.

    Elizabelle

    December 30, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Late to the thread, but here’s a link to hiking the Pacific Coast trail. California’s apparently treacherous in spots; Oregon is easier.

    BCracker: thanks for the H/T re “Wild”. I’d like to read that book.

    And hike portions of the Pacific Coast trail. On my resolutions list.

  112. 112.

    dmbeaster

    December 30, 2013 at 10:58 am

    I could use some time alone on a trail in a howling wilderness to think things over. But I’m too attached to cannolis, coffee, wine, etc., to ever commit to such a journey. A leisurely stroll on the beach followed by a nice red zin, a cheese plate and a bowl game is more my speed.

    You are probably a candidate for a wilderness trek going from hut to hut. Yosemite has the High Sierra Camps loop. Or you could try the Bearpaw Cabins in Sequoia backcountry. Or something similar in many many other places (like New Zealand). Wilderness hiking with a cabin and cooked meals when you stop each night.

  113. 113.

    KLS

    December 30, 2013 at 11:02 am

    @currants: Ask and you shall receive: this Good Luck Minestrone soup is a winner, and I make it every year. Delicious! http://www.washingtonpost.com/pb/recipes/good-luck-minestrone/7292/

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    dmbeaster

    December 30, 2013 at 11:24 am

    @Elizabelle: Except for the nonsense that is Forester Pass (13,180 foot “pass,” which is simply a shortcut over a ridge that avoided the traditional route around Junction Peak. Here is a good pictorial of a June 15, 2013 hike over the pass in a very low snow year, which would otherwise be crazy and require an ice axe to do safely) , the Sierra Section of the PCT is no big deal — just dont try to hike it earlier than mid-July. The Sierras have remarkably pleasant summertime weather for a mountain range of its size, and the trails are usually well engineered.

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    Sir Laffs-a-lot

    December 30, 2013 at 5:00 pm

    for Betty Cracker:

    http://cheezburger.com/7974324224

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