Remember Trestin Meacham, the Utah man who was on a weeks-long hunger strike to oppose same-sex marriage? Looks like he can go ahead and snarf down a Chick-fil-A with a side of hate today:
Marriage equality advocates were dealt a heavy blow on Monday, as the U.S. Supreme Court moved to grant Utah’s request for a temporary halt on same-sex nuptials.
The decision ends a two-week stint of gay couples’ marrying in the Mormon-dominated state, one of the reddest in nation and the 18th to legalize same-sex marriage. All weddings between couples of the same sex will now be on hold until an appeals court hears the case.
Bummer for those who were hoping Meacham would self-deport from the planet. On the other hand, the article John cited in the earlier post linked above said this:
Meacham claims he will fast until Utah decides to nullify the court’s decision — nullification being a theory that the states have authority in all matters, not the federal government.
And since Utah sought a stay from the US Supreme Court rather than nullifying a federal court decision, technically, Meacham should continue to starve himself to death in a bigoted snit. But I’m betting he leaps on this ruling like a homophobe on a ham sandwich.
Just Some Fuckhead
Meacham has started a dialogue about gay marriage, like Snowden. I don’t think I’ve seen a clearer parallel in this thread.
max
And since Utah sought a stay from the US Supreme Court rather than nullifying a federal court decision, technically, Meacham should continue to starve himself to death in a bigoted snit. But I’m betting he leaps on this ruling like a homophobe on a ham sandwich.
Sticking by what I said earlier – he’s not a clinically diagnosable nut, he’s just an schmuck throwing a tantrum. (I suppose that would warrant a diagnosis of OPD – Obnoxious Personality Disorder.)
max
[‘No Ghandi that one.’]
BGinCHI
My mama told me that if I didn’t have anything nice to say to say nothing at all.
max
Forgot the TPM link to the above story, don’t want to get moderated.
max
[‘Sigh.’]
MBL
Perhaps we’ll get lucky and someone will shove that Chik-Fil-A down his throat.
YellowJournalism
@max: So he did it for free pizza? What would Ghandi order…
I hope he gets sick from scarfing so much food too fast and too soon.
Villago Delenda Est
I was planning a trip to Utah to piss on this asshole’s premature grave, too.
Oh well.
Cassidy
@Villago Delenda Est: Sometimes evolution needs a push.
MattF
“Just because I do everything a homophobe would do and approve of what homophobes do doesn’t mean I’m a bad person.” Well, y’know what? It does. There’s a very special kind of guilt by association, when the bad person you’re associating with is yourself.
Violet
Or like a Mormon on jello salad and funeral potatoes.
Citizen_X
BAG OV DIKS?
Ben Franklin
I won’t be impressed until he moves from fasting, to Home Spun.
ThresherK
A stay?
Like “This is the governor. Don’t execute that guy in the electric chair right now.”
To prevent irreperable, undoable harm? I’m missing the meaning here.
Forked Tongue
Sheesh, no sooner do we get gay marriage shoved down our throats than someone wants to shove their grabby fingers down our throats and pull it out again.
Ben Franklin
@Just Some Fuckhead:
You can run from the Snowden analogies, or you can face them Fuck Head-On.
Just Some Fuckhead
@Forked Tongue: This is a major assfucking for sure.
scav
Pizza Boy ain’t no Cnut, confusing a ripple (worse, a federal ripple) and calling out for moocher pizza, while ignoring the tide and sea level change behind him. Poor Low Rent Heroes they’re having to worship.
max
@YellowJournalism: So he did it for free pizza?
“All I wanted was one
Pepsifree pizza, just onePepsifree pizza! and she wouldn’t give it to me!”I am guessing he’s going to scarf away until the Tenth Circuit rules. If the Tenth Circuit decides to uphold then he has go back to ‘starving’ himself.
max
[‘Overweight? Got gold? Concerned about the state of the country? DISCOVER OUR RADICAL NEW AMAZING WEIGHT TEA PARTY LOSS DIET! SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER TO FIND OUT HOW!’]
rea
Marriage equality advocates were dealt a heavy blow on Monday, as the U.S. Supreme Court moved to grant Utah’s request for a temporary halt on same-sex nuptials.
WTF? I’d rather they hadn’t, but it’s pretty normal as a matter of procedure to stay something like this pending appeal, and is not usually an expression of any view on the outcome ofthe case.
LanceThruster
“This is what I say to the most conservative person that’s so terrified of gay marriage becoming legal: Just because the state says it’s legal, it’s not like God’s gonna let them into heaven?! You can still sleep sound every night, knowing that goal line defense is up at the pearly gates going, “You’re not getting in here, f4ggot“ ~ Daniel Tosh
PS – Before anyone gets upset about his terminology, understand that he was parodying the haters who think God shares their hatred of gays.
Belafon
@BGinCHI: Sometimes mom is wrong.
Patricia Kayden
@max: I don’t understand how starving himself will end gay marriage in his state. I must be missing something. But it’s a wonderful publicity stunt to get his name in the news. Who would have heard about him outside of Utah if he hadn’t dedicated himself to being so reckless?
Belafon
@Ben Franklin: Or you can obsess over them like a gold ring.
Chris
@MattF:
This is one of the things I loathe most about people like that – the hurt “you don’t know me, how can you say I’m a bigot?” argument, backed up by the argument “I don’t hate gay/black/wev people. Not in my heart. I just think…” Dude, nobody gives a flying fuck what’s “in your heart.” The world is made up of more than just “your heart,” and your actions have consequences regardless of the warm fuzzy fee-fees you say were behind them. If you support things that specifically target and harm gay people, you’re a homophobe. Period.
shortstop
@BGinCHI: My mama told me not to come. You’d think they’d get together on the maternal advice thing — for farther reach and the power of repetitive messaging.
BGinCHI
@Belafon: Agreed.
I think we ought to stop paying attention to the wingnut fasters. Wake me up when they start self-immolating.
shortstop
@Villago Delenda Est: You could have done a fantastic national parks tour had these fools not screwed it up for you.
BGinCHI
@shortstop: I’m still mad about the “can’t go back into the water for an hour after eating” thing.
I should have recognized that earlier as total bullshit.
Roger Moore
@ThresherK:
Yes, a stay. It means that they put the ruling on hold temporarily, usually until some other legal action can happen. Normally on something like this that’s sure to be appealed, the judge who makes the ruling will stay it himself because he knows perfectly well it’s not going to go through without a bunch of further litigation. Not giving the stay can seen as extreme confidence on his part that his ruling will be upheld, anger at what he sees as injustice in the law he’s overturning, and being a dick by refusing to stay a ruling that will result in people getting marriages that might be thrown out when all the litigation is over.
shortstop
@BGinCHI: Yeah, that one had no scientific support whatsoever. Keeping forks out of toasters I can understand. But being beached after a peanut butter sandwich is just wrong.
Mnemosyne
@max:
Not really surprised it turned out to be a temper tantrum. At least now we all get to taunt him if the stay is vacated and the Supreme Court gives the green light: Come on, you said you were willing to die rather than allow gay marriage — what are you, a coward?
Ben Franklin
@Belafon:
I think that’s Obsession Projection, as in shooting the messenger, or protecting your ox from a goring.
srv
If only the John Cole’s of the Left had the courage to put their principles where their mouths are.
We have to look to Republicans for examples of Ghandi now.
BGinCHI
@shortstop: Sadistic even. But then again they did have to wipe our asses for several years. Jonah Goldberg’s mother is still doing it, so you know he’s not swimming after lunch.
BGinCHI
@srv: Cole on a hunger strike?
Oxymoron.
Ben Franklin
@srv:
Is that a shot at Cole, or the Left? I don’t see much confluence, but I’m willing to discuss it.
GHayduke (formerly lojasmo)
@Just Some Fuckhead:
Just like snowden, the conversation started years ago. You’re right…the comparison is appropriate. Also, they’re both major league assholes.
Belafon
@srv: Hey, I will defend someone else’s right to starve himself.
ranchandsyrup
@BGinCHI: The closest Cole got was when he listened to Hunger Strike by Temple of the Dog in the 90’s
Just Some Fuckhead
@GHayduke (formerly lojasmo): Alas, we can’t have the conversation we need to have because of Corner Stone.
Ben Franklin
@Just Some Fuckhead:
As good as any excuse, I guess.
Gex
He’s not grateful for the stay. Or for a free pizza. He’s having a fit because he wanted a much bigger celebration of his heroism. Specifically he personally thought he’d be getting more stuff.
Sounds about right.
scav
@Gex: Where is his gravy train and damn it, he wants the full 15 minutes and caboose!
GHayduke (formerly lojasmo)
@Just Some Fuckhead:
There may be something to that, but I doubt it.
BGinCHI
@ranchandsyrup: Lulz. Or when the drive-thru was closed that one time.
GHayduke (formerly lojasmo)
There is a justice on the 10th circuit who was appointed by LBJ
burnspbesq
@Roger Moore:
Or, as in this case, it can be the result of the Utah Attorney General’s office being pig-ignorant of the fundamentals of Federal appeallate procedure and screwing up the filings needed to get the stay from the Tenth Circuit.
SiubhanDuinne
@BGinCHI:
Always good advice.
schrodinger's cat
BTW is he related to John (Jon) Meacham, formerly of Newsweek?
schrodinger's cat
@SiubhanDuinne: Here’s me not following that advice with a review of Downton Abbey.
Violet
@schrodinger’s cat: It’s unlikely since Jon Meacham is from Chattanooga, TN and his family has been there for several generations. Could be a distant relative.
Paul in KY
@schrodinger’s cat: I wondered if he was related to the POS who was governor of Arizona back in the day.
catclub
What are the similarities and differences between the Colorado state law on marijuana conflicting with federal law, and the utah state law on same sex marriage and federal rulings?
Is the fact that one seems to be a negative and one a positive law make a difference?
Could a federal court rule that the Colorado law is invalid?
Villago Delenda Est
@Paul in KY:
Yes, I wondered the same thing.
Shortstop
@Paul in KY: @Villago Delenda Est: that was Mecham. Still, they’re both LDS and their family trees may converge at some point, with one branch spelling it differently from the other.
Anonymous At Work
Supreme Court has its work cut out for it. It’ll be appealed to Supreme Court, who will have to deal with “divorcing” 900 people after they have been married for at least a year. If the state loses the next round, it’ll be one year, plus maybe some extra couples. If the state wins the next round, I’d request “en banc” review, to add an extra year. Couples who have been married for 2 years…that’s a lot of court-mandated divorces with no laws on the books for how to divide property, decide parenting rights, etc.
That’s why this process was a one-way street. Marriages are simple (legally) but divorces are nothing but messy.
Paul in KY
@Shortstop: Didn’t know (or had forgotten) it (the former governor) spelled name without ‘a’. Was probably too stupid to spell it right. Thanks for info tidbit.
Violet
@Anonymous At Work: Couldn’t the court just say the marriages were never valid to begin with and leave the people to sort it out? There have to be cases for people who present as married and do things as such, but the marriage isn’t valid. They don’t have to get divorced do they?
burnspbesq
@Violet:
Are you a Utah family law attorney in disguise? What you’re suggesting would lead to decades of full employment for family lawyers. I expect that if a Federal appellate court were to say the marriages in question were void ab initio, it would suggest (but probably could not mandate) that the unwind be done “in a manner that is consistent with the principles of Utah’s ‘equitable distribution’ system for dividing property upon divorce.” But my first look at a high-level description of those “rules” leads me to think that those rules allow for waaaaaaay too much judicial discretion.
Draylon Hogg
@Patricia Kayden: God will see his actions and send an angel.
Draylon Hogg
Anyone know if he’s he tithing the pizza?
Bill E Pilgrim
Testing something. Don’t mind me.