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In Preparation For This Afternoon’s American Rugby-ish Semifinals…

by Tom Levenson|  January 19, 20142:24 pm| 196 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Sports, The War on Your Neighbor, aka the War on Drugs

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Given that the recreational enjoyment of that ever-popular friend, Mary Jane, is now legal in both the states in which NFL conference championships will be decided today, I can’t think of a better musical commentary than this one:

Party w. discretion y’all, mindful of the state of the law in the state you are.
Oh, and of course:  Go Pats! Go Niners!
Open thread, folk.
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  1. 1.

    2liberal

    January 19, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    should have been called: “The Patriots Victory open thread” but that’s just me.

  2. 2.

    Steeplejack

    January 19, 2014 at 2:28 pm

    I’m leaning Seahawks and Broncos. Wouldn’t kill me if the Patriots win, but for some unknown reason that has only recently come to light I don’t like the 49ers. Go figure.

  3. 3.

    Tom Levenson

    January 19, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    @Steeplejack: Born, raised in the Bay Area, lived for the last ~three decades in/around Boston. Got no choice, me.

  4. 4.

    Chickamin Slam

    January 19, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    Screw the Patriots. How many rings does Brady or Belichick need anyways? Enough to adorn all their digits? 11? Is Bill Belichick the Phil Jackson of the NFL? Is he having a “Zen” moment now?

    America cannot afford the Patriots in another Super Bowl. It’s against Freedom or Jesus or something.

  5. 5.

    Geoduck

    January 19, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    I’m a Seahawks fan, but I’m pulling for Denver, just because it would be amusing to have the two former AFC West rivals end up facing each other in the Super Bowl.

  6. 6.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 19, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    @Steeplejack: I’ll be pro-Seahawks because of Russell Wilson and because fuck the ‘Niners. I prefer Brady to Manning, but there’s Monte Ball. So who knows?

  7. 7.

    p.a.

    January 19, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    Denver 34 Pats 14. Brady’s window slams shut as Pat’s management cheaps out on wideouts again. I’m not bitter, I saw them win 3. 3 more then I ever hoped for in the dark days post-Chuck Fairbanks.

  8. 8.

    rikyrah

    January 19, 2014 at 2:37 pm

    I want to see this exhibit:

    Exhibit Shows Adelman’s Civil Rights-Era Photos
    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    JAN. 19, 2014, 11:39 A.M. E.S.T.

    MIAMI BEACH, Fla. — Flipping through a stack of color images he shot during a 1965 march from Selma to Montgomery, Ala., photographer Bob Adelman is casual about the history they represent.

    He pauses at the image of a group of people with clasped hands raised in victory at a Montgomery, Ala., cab stand, where people had gathered during the city’s long bus boycott a decade earlier, and calls them “real King fans.” Pointing to the second floor of the Alabama Capitol, behind a line of green-helmeted troops, he chuckles as he remembers, “Gov. Wallace was hiding behind the curtains up there.”

    Then there’s the man with his fist raised in mid-speech, whom he calls “Doc” — better known as the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

    “Now they seem like momentous events. At the time, they were covered in the back pages of newspapers, for the most part. The only time blacks appeared in newspapers at that time was when there was violence,” Adelman said.

    The images are among roughly 150 assembled at Nova Southeastern University’s Museum of Art-Fort Lauderdale for an exhibit marking the half-century since the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964.

    Adelman volunteered his services as a photographer to the Congress of Racial Equality and the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. He went on to shoot the covers of national magazines and the front pages of national newspapers, but he always considered himself an activist.

    “Unlike photojournalists trying to get the shot, this is somebody that is part of the circle really recognizing the role he can play in bringing about change through his images,” museum director Bonnie Clearwater said.

    The exhibit is titled “The Movement,” referring to both the efforts to end segregation in America and Adelman’s aesthetic as a photographer, Clearwater said.

    Adelman wanted to capture the spirit of the demonstrations on film, but frame after frame focuses on bodies — how the people in the movement physically moved.

    Another image from the march to Montgomery shows King and his wife at the front of a crowd that seems endless behind them, in spite of the rain that has dampened their clothes. The descendants of enslaved people who had no rights to their own bodies were marching en masse across a landscape in which signs and white people told black people where they could and could not go.

    “I told my friends, ‘This is history,’ even though it was not apparent to many people,” Adelman said. “I thought this using your body to try to change things, whether you tried to vote or went to the bathroom or you were trying to go into a movie theater or whatever — that was inescapable and it was I guess very, very provocative and confrontational.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2014/01/19/us/ap-us-civil-rights-photography.html?hp

  9. 9.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    @Steeplejack: I am against all things Harbaugh.

  10. 10.

    2liberal

    January 19, 2014 at 2:39 pm

    @Chickamin Slam:

    Screw the Patriots. How many rings does Brady or Belichick need anyways? Enough to adorn all their digits? 11? Is Bill Belichick the Phil Jackson of the NFL? Is he having a “Zen” moment now?America cannot afford the Patriots in another Super Bowl. It’s against Freedom or Jesus or something.

    the patriots haven’t won it all since the 2004 season. Its time! They deserve it for playing so well for so long. And so do their fans (like me) deserve it. I want a Pats Super victory that isn’t by a field goal.

  11. 11.

    PsiFighter37

    January 19, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    After 5.5 hours, I am finally housing the famed brisket at Franklin’s. Phenomenally delicious, but it’s hard to justify waiting so long.

  12. 12.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 2:43 pm

    @rikyrah:

    “The (Occupy) Wall Street people — I think the whole country was outraged at Wall Street’s behavior, but they didn’t have a plan. It was more emotional, it had no stated goals other than protest,” Adelman said.

    Does anyone think we would be talking about income inequality, our disparate economy and the poor without the Occupy struggle?

  13. 13.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    January 19, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    I beseech of the Flying Spaghetti Monster but one thing: No Broncos-Niners Super Bowl.

  14. 14.

    the Conster

    January 19, 2014 at 2:45 pm

    @p.a.:

    I’m with ya, that’s the most likely outcome. Wouldn’t it be fun though to watch Brady carry his team of misfit toys, once again, and win his final one, in the Jets home stadium? Against the Niners? That would be an epic finish to a magical career, forever vanquishing the stench of those Schaefer Stadium years.

  15. 15.

    Betty Cracker

    January 19, 2014 at 2:47 pm

    Go Broncos! Go Sea-hens!

  16. 16.

    Roger Moore

    January 19, 2014 at 2:48 pm

    @2liberal:

    the patriots haven’t won it all since the 2004 season.

    Are we supposed to feel sorry for the Pats because they couldn’t win in their last two tries? Besides, the Broncos haven’t won the Superbowl since the 1998 season, so complaints about how long it’s been since winning one seem unreasonable.

  17. 17.

    raven

    January 19, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    All I ask are two great fucking games. It’s nice not to give a shit who wins and loses.

  18. 18.

    kdaug

    January 19, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    @PsiFighter37: I did say “once in a lifetime”. Bucket list, and all that.

    How long are you down for?

  19. 19.

    JPL

    January 19, 2014 at 2:51 pm

    @the Conster: this.. It is a team of misfits though but after last week’s win, who knows what will happen. I’d feel better about it if it were a home game though.

  20. 20.

    Lizzy L

    January 19, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    I live in the Bay Area. I used to watch the Niners play at the Stick in the 80s. I once shook Ronnie Lott’s hand.

    Go Niners!

  21. 21.

    Geoduck

    January 19, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Besides, the Broncos haven’t won the Superbowl since the 1998 season, so complaints about how long it’s been since winning one seem unreasonable.

    cough cough. Except for a couple of wins by the Storm, the women’s basketball team, the Seattle area hasn’t had a professional sports championship since the 70’s. Only Cleveland has managed to rack up a greater record of futility.

  22. 22.

    raven

    January 19, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    @Lizzy L: Did he have all his fingers then?

  23. 23.

    raven

    January 19, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    Well, let’s see, upon further review. Champ and Knowshon, go Denver!

  24. 24.

    LanceThruster

    January 19, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    It’s in God’s hands now.

  25. 25.

    Linnaeus

    January 19, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    Gotta cheer for the Pats, if for nothing more than I like Brady better than Manning. And I’m glad I have the Seahawks to cheer for, given that my natal NFL team has some work to do, still.

  26. 26.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 3:08 pm

    @Lizzy L: High four!

  27. 27.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    @Linnaeus:

    my natal NFL team

    I…uhhh…?

  28. 28.

    Anoniminous

    January 19, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    Have to root for the Niners. I used to go jogging* with Jerry Rice and Roger Craig.

    * Meaning we’d be on the track at the same time during the off season with them running 2 laps for every one of mine.

  29. 29.

    Baud

    January 19, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    The bobble pass!

  30. 30.

    raven

    January 19, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    @Anoniminous: Roger with that high step!

  31. 31.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    Decker just cheerleader slapped that cheer enthusiast!

  32. 32.

    p.a.

    January 19, 2014 at 3:14 pm

    @JPL: #&%*ing Miami loss cost home field.

  33. 33.

    KG

    January 19, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    @Geoduck: San Diego has never won a title, and like Seattle, lost a basketball team… Ok, it lost the Clippers which is sorta like losing a basketball team. Cleveland has definitely had the worst of it though

  34. 34.

    p.a.

    January 19, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    @Corner Stone: @Linnaeus: there was an NFL franchise in South Africa?

  35. 35.

    Baud

    January 19, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    The sun really is our greatest nemesis.

  36. 36.

    Anoniminous

    January 19, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    @raven:

    I can also claim to have partied with Montana.

    We bought our booze at the same liquor store.

    (Touched with Greatness, I is.)

  37. 37.

    Yatsuno

    January 19, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    @Linnaeus: Allez les Seahacks. Though I find myself dreading this game for no logical reason.

  38. 38.

    Baud

    January 19, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    Hannah or Joe?

  39. 39.

    kindness

    January 19, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    I think it’ll be Denver. The late game is too close to call. But I do want the Niners.

  40. 40.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    A couple weird opening drives so far. I guess that’s what happens when you have a couple rookie QB’s.

  41. 41.

    Anoniminous

    January 19, 2014 at 3:29 pm

    @Baud:

    Ralph. He sold those pre-stale bags of peanuts at the ‘Stick.

  42. 42.

    raven

    January 19, 2014 at 3:29 pm

    @Anoniminous: I partied with Studwell and Gar Fencik for reals.

  43. 43.

    kindness

    January 19, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    @KG: Being friends with several Cleveland folk they have convinced me every management they’ve had in the last 40 years have been idiots. Bad trades, bad draft choices, bad coaches. To me that means bad owners. And Cleveland has had a couple. The original Browns went to Baltimore. Model screwed ’em right there.

  44. 44.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    Just watching through some of today’s The Kornack on MSNBC. If there has ever been a better NJ pol for Jon Stewart to do an impression of other than Jon Bramnick (R) NJ Assembly Minority Leader, I have yet to see them.
    That guy screams Daily Show lampooning.

  45. 45.

    The Sailor

    January 19, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    Is the fix in for the Pats?
    Bizarre play calling by the zebras.

  46. 46.

    pseudonymous in nc

    January 19, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    I do like the idea of the Patriots getting to the handegg final with a squad made up of Brady plus a pile of spare parts. Also, fuck Papa John. Seattle all the way on the NFC side, though.

  47. 47.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    @Anoniminous: God. Stale nuts. What an awful human being.

  48. 48.

    burnspbesq

    January 19, 2014 at 3:39 pm

    I’m not sure I want to know how this happened, but my kid somehow got invited to go to the game in Seattle. In a corporate suite.

  49. 49.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    @The Sailor: Yes. The refs are still planning to fuck the Colts in this game.

  50. 50.

    Anoniminous

    January 19, 2014 at 3:41 pm

    @raven:

    OK. You win.

    Living in Belmont, a small city south of San Francisco, in the late 80s it was impossible to avoid running into Niners. And retired mafiosi. The first made it an interesting town as one never knew who one would see. The second made it a very safe town as nobody could be quite sure they weren’t robbing “Banana Nose” Maldoni.

  51. 51.

    doug r

    January 19, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    @Corner Stone: Yup. Occupy the voting booth. OFA.

  52. 52.

    Anoniminous

    January 19, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    But remember, one can always wash the taste away with a $10 cup of watery beer.

    (Why I no longer go to pro sports games. Reason #17)

  53. 53.

    doug r

    January 19, 2014 at 3:46 pm

    @Anoniminous: Dave Cutler was my Cross Country teacher in grade 8.

  54. 54.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    How did Welker adjust to that pass?

  55. 55.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 19, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    @Anoniminous: Part of a branch of my wife’s family lived in the Bronx in the 70’s and 80’s (Bonfire of the Vanities-era Bronx, if you get my drift) on a street so safe you didn’t have to lock your car. Same reason: some of their neighbors were known to be the types of independent businessmen whom it was exceedingly unsafe to upset.

  56. 56.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    He was absolutely holding Decker.

  57. 57.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    He got the 1st

  58. 58.

    The Sailor

    January 19, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    Omaha, Omaha, Omaha!

  59. 59.

    JPL

    January 19, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    fck

  60. 60.

    monkeyfister

    January 19, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    I am making these delicious creamy shrimp enchiladas. Thay are delicious before they are done! http://www.the-girl-who-ate-everything.com/2013/05/creamy-shrimp-enchiladas-and-dinner-and-a-movie-with-the-dating-divas.html

    Ready for half-time activities.

  61. 61.

    Baud

    January 19, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    Too late, Chevy.

  62. 62.

    Goblue72

    January 19, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    @Corner Stone: we could possibly be talking about it even more if Occupy hadn’t devolved into a sh$itshow fail parade of homeless encampments and anarchist douchenozzles.

  63. 63.

    BruceFromOhio

    January 19, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    @raven: This.

    @Geoduck: Gaia save us, this, too. I live vicariously through the winning teams of other cities.

    @kindness: OK, I’m gonna go load up the bong and then eat some brownies, you guys are killing me with all the ruminating on Cleveland.

  64. 64.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 4:03 pm

    @Goblue72: You’re right. I guess we could still be talking about the fucking deficit, non-stop. Like every god damned politician was for two years until that point.
    Sorry they let you down.

  65. 65.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    I guess we could also still be talking about all the voter registration success ACORN has accomplished. Wonder whatever happened to them, anyway?

  66. 66.

    raven

    January 19, 2014 at 4:05 pm

    Early look at culinary themes for superbowl jam. Last time the Pat’s were in my wife made Whoopie Pies!

  67. 67.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    I seem to recall ACORN had a goal, a mission statement, and a plan. Probably produced a few powerpoints also.
    Where’d they go, anyway?

  68. 68.

    BruceFromOhio

    January 19, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    … and if the Broncos want to put it away, they’re going to have really run up the score. Three times this year I’ve seen the Patriots conjure up wins out of being down in points, yards, first downs, pick a stat. Watching people heading for the exits at Gillette, giving up on the home team, only to have the home team turn around and win it anyway, in ‘hahaha, fuck all you all’ style.

    @Goblue72: FREE MUMIA

  69. 69.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    That was a fantastic open field tackle!

  70. 70.

    Baud

    January 19, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    Damn good D there.

  71. 71.

    Betty Cracker

    January 19, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    The mister briefly mistook Der Gropenfuhrer Schwartzenegger in his wig and tennis get-up for Martina Navratilova. Yikes.

  72. 72.

    Scout211

    January 19, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    Go Niners, of course!

    However, if Seattle wins, I will gladly cheer for them in the Super Bowl. Daughter and SIL live near Seattle and it’s SIL’s very first year as an American football fan. After living here for 8 years, he finally decided that football may well be as fun to watch as futbol.

    It doesn’t hurt to live near Seattle right now, to get excited about that team. The whole area is crazy for the Hawks. Even the schools all had Seahawks Day on Friday.

  73. 73.

    LanceThruster

    January 19, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    How come some players have ridged helmets and some smooth?

  74. 74.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 19, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    @Goblue72: ’72. I remember that year, my first of eligibility to vote. The blue team didn’t do very well, as I recall.

  75. 75.

    Bob In Portland

    January 19, 2014 at 4:15 pm

    Not much love for the Niners at BJ. But here in Portland it’s like a border state in the Civil War. Traditionally Portland has been a satellite of Seattle, but there are a lot of Californians who moved up here over the last ten years, including me and the lady, so it’s hand-to-hand in the streets, which isn’t easy because everyone’s got a microbrew in one of their hands.

    The story is that the last two times the Niners played in the Cink they were smacked around by the Seahawks. However, the Niners have been trending upward while Seattle has been a little flat. Russell Wilson’s receiving corps is a little weak (no Harvin once again) while the Niners’ return of Crabtree has really sparked things and Kaep is playing well. They’ve won eight straight. The last time the two teams played the Niners prevailed. Harbaugh may be an asshole, but he’s our asshole. And he’s a much better asshole than Chris Christie.

  76. 76.

    James Gary

    January 19, 2014 at 4:16 pm

    Given that the recreational enjoyment of that ever-popular friend, Mary Jane, is now legal in both the states in which NFL conference championships will be decided today, I can’t think of a better musical commentary than this one:

    Tom, I beg to differ:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UUPY902Ph0

  77. 77.

    PsiFighter37

    January 19, 2014 at 4:19 pm

    Gotta say the Broncos are looking good. Frankly, with that kind of receiving corps, it’s a minor miracle the Pats made it this far.

  78. 78.

    Cacti

    January 19, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    No real rooting interest in either game. Pulling for the Seahawks to win the Super Bowl, because every other team left has two or more Lombardi trophies.

  79. 79.

    scav

    January 19, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    For OT non-football lurkers or a dull period of whatever-it-is that is happening, there’s the UKIP weather forecast.

  80. 80.

    Cacti

    January 19, 2014 at 4:27 pm

    Denver probably has the best postseason home field advantage in the NFL, between the cold and the altitude.

    But if anyone can still step on their own crank with both of those things in their favor, it’s Peyton Manning.

  81. 81.

    rda909

    January 19, 2014 at 4:28 pm

    @Corner Stone: Uh, yes, because long before anyone did a “mic check” our President had called up Elizabeth warren to the big leagues, talked about it himself for years,
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9G8XREyG0Q

    and was already touring the country using the “bully pulpit” to pass actual legislation (American Jobs Act) to add to the major stimulus of 2009 that he got passed:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jobs_Act

    During W. Bush’s time, the media would barely mention, if it all, major protests againt the Iraq Invasion where 100K+ would show up, so it was odd to me when 50 people in some small park in NYC were all of a sudden front page news, while President Obama’s Jobs Act push went to the backpages. “Occupy” was used by the media to hurt the chances of the American Jobs Act passing in any form, and to continue their “divide and conquer” tactics of liberals, and unfortuntely most of them are too dumb to see it.

  82. 82.

    p.a.

    January 19, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    @Cacti: SHawks orig unis were awesome. New ones (fitting for Seattle I guess) are muddy/dull.

  83. 83.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    @rda909: Your links, and post, do not comport with reality. I would suggest you try again, but I’m pretty sure you would fail.
    The “Why Obama Now” YouTube video is from Oct 2012. By some accounts, Occupy was in 9/2011. No mention of Warren in either of your links.
    “On October 11, the bill was voted on in the Senate where it failed to garner the necessary sixty votes to proceed. In response Obama vowed to break the bill into several smaller derivative bills”

  84. 84.

    Baud

    January 19, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    @Cacti:

    That’s my thinking also.

  85. 85.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    January 19, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    I keep seeing cars driving past with diplomatic flags on each front fender, flapping in the wind, me wondering momentarily what country it is but not close enough to see. Then finally one day one passed me close enough for me to see that the flags said “49ers!”

    Culture shock of coming back to the Bay Area.

  86. 86.

    2liberal

    January 19, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    @Cacti:

    Denver probably has the best postseason home field advantage in the NFL, between the cold and the altitude.But if anyone can still step on their own crank with both of those things in their favor, it’s Peyton Manning.

    LOL on this.

  87. 87.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    Man, that is almost unfair sticking D. Thomas against that undersized CB.
    Brutal beatdown.

  88. 88.

    2liberal

    January 19, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    ugh. 20-3 now. The Pats are going to need a break, or two. C’mon, refs! EARN your money! Give them something to complain about! You know you want the Patriots to win!

  89. 89.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 4:57 pm

    I guess we could still be talking about “tightening our belts” and how the scary deficit was going to come and murder us all in our beds if we didn’t freeze the wages of every federal govt employee and fire a fuckton of teachers in the states.
    That was a productive tack.

  90. 90.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    @2liberal: I’ve been thinking the first team to turn the ball over would lose…but that’s starting to be a stretch at this point.
    NE needs something dynamic to get back into this. Still plenty of time.

  91. 91.

    RobertDSC-PowerMac G4 Dual 1.25

    January 19, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    @Cacti:
    Not this time. We’re getting Omaha’d the fuck out. Very disappointing for this Pats fan.

  92. 92.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    This 3 and 5 yd passing route BS…not going to get them back in this.

  93. 93.

    jake the snake

    January 19, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    @Bob In Portland:

    I tend to agree, Jim may be an asshole, but he’s our asshole.
    Mostly due to the Harbaugh family’s association with my Alma Mater, Western Kentucky.
    Jack coached there for years, saved football after he nearly killed it, and won the 2002
    FCS title. Jim worked as an unpaid assist and lead recruiter. John also helped though
    not as much as Jim.

  94. 94.

    Linnaeus

    January 19, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    I…uhhh…?

    Referring to the team I grew up watching.

  95. 95.

    PsiFighter37

    January 19, 2014 at 5:05 pm

    Water biking on the Colorado beats watching football

  96. 96.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:06 pm

    It used to be cold in January here in the Greater Houston Metro Area. Had to bundle up and start a nice fire in the evening. Not crazyballs like the Norsemen, but a good clean crisp winter.
    I’ve had my doors and windows open all week as it is mid-60’s.

  97. 97.

    rda909

    January 19, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    @Corner Stone: That speech in the video was from years earlier, not to mention there’s video of him saying that same kind of thing from the 1990s. You need links for Elizabeth Warren…seriously? The AJA ended up having trouble passing after months of the media using Occupy to distract and divide. Bringing that up just proves my point. Once again, Occupy had nothing to do with these issues being raised, and in fact hurt the chances of real, tangible progress being made on the issues they claim to care about.

  98. 98.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:10 pm

    @rda909: No, I disagree. Post something better and then try again.

  99. 99.

    The Sailor

    January 19, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    No matter what the zebras do, Broncos are still gonna win it.

  100. 100.

    raven

    January 19, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    Rut ro, refs ain’t got shit to do with this.

  101. 101.

    MikeJ

    January 19, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    Just back from QFC. Got my Skittles.

  102. 102.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    @rda909: The link to the fucking video you posted was a re-election video for Obama in 2012. Stop fucking bullshitting and watch your own links.

  103. 103.

    different-church-lady

    January 19, 2014 at 5:12 pm

    Welp… just getting beaten by a better team.

    All I know is that Peyton is gonna throw at least one silly interception before this is over, but it won’t matter.

  104. 104.

    MikeJ

    January 19, 2014 at 5:12 pm

    @PsiFighter37: Have you seen the bats yet?

  105. 105.

    BruceFromOhio

    January 19, 2014 at 5:13 pm

    Mmm, freshly toasted Patriot. Goes well with a nice IPA.

  106. 106.

    different-church-lady

    January 19, 2014 at 5:13 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Does anyone think we would be talking about income inequality, our disparate economy and the poor without the Occupy struggle?

    Yes. Next question.

  107. 107.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    I’d throw to J. Thomas pretty much every route, actually. Who can stop him?

  108. 108.

    bewleys

    January 19, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    @2liberal: Aaaah, how cute.
    Call me ¨Carnac¨, told ya, Broncos go to Bowl.

  109. 109.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:15 pm

    @different-church-lady: Because we so were before. Yeah, good call.

  110. 110.

    2liberal

    January 19, 2014 at 5:16 pm

    kicking a FG on 4th and 2 would have made up one of the three scores the Pats need. and they still can’t stop them. This is all but over.

  111. 111.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    We talked non-stop about the stupid fucking deficit for 2+ years. But, yeah, we were totes gonna stop doing that.

  112. 112.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 19, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    @MikeJ: I remember QFC, used to walk down the hill to the one near the U.

  113. 113.

    Baud

    January 19, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    I’m also streaming the game. You can select the cable cam view which is pretty cool. Only problem is that the stream is about 30 seconds behind the TV.

  114. 114.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    @2liberal: Get a TAINT, and who knows what can happen?

  115. 115.

    rda909

    January 19, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    @Corner Stone: Will try again: the…speech….was…recorded…long….before….the…video…was…made. There’s this thing called “video editing” where they can take the audio from some other point in time, and add new visuals to the older audio. That’s what was done with that video. Hope that’s clear to you now.

  116. 116.

    Joel

    January 19, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    Oh well… Go Seahawks, I guess.

    And let’s hope for some great snow on the slopes in two weeks!

  117. 117.

    Svensker

    January 19, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    @BruceFromOhio:

    Heh. Yup.

  118. 118.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    I’d just throw to J. Thomas the rest of this game.

  119. 119.

    different-church-lady

    January 19, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    @Corner Stone: Perhaps you’ll be amazed by this, but people were suffering from income inequality, a disparate economy and poverty before Occupy took up the banner.

    Would the media have had a two-month Occupy orgy without Occupy? No. Would people struggling to get by be talking about it? Yes. Might something else have put it on the radar screen? Who knows.

    Did much change after Occupy? You decide.

  120. 120.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    @rda909: That’s fine. Where’s the link to the original speech?

  121. 121.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    @different-church-lady: Well, we have seen our politicians, including the president, stop talking about the stupid fucking deficit “problem” and start mentioning income inequality. So, yeah.
    Would they have ever done that without Occupy happening? I say probably not.
    But the facts are clear that they were not before that event. They were talking about belt tightening and deficits.

  122. 122.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    January 19, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Yes, we were. The difference being that “1%” hadn’t become a Facebook meme before Occupy.

  123. 123.

    Joel

    January 19, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    @efgoldman: That’s pretty much the sum of it.

    If I recall correctly, the Patriots still have a cap hold on Hernandez.

    I can’t complain about being a Patriots fan, and nor can anyone else. As Charles Barkley pointed out, 99% of the time in any sport, your team sucks, Having a chance to win a title for about 12 consecutive seasons is ridiculous. Never mind the three world series’ over that span (and the NBA and NHL titles).

    If anyone wants to see what having a team that sucks looks like, they can take a gander at the Celtics.

  124. 124.

    different-church-lady

    January 19, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    @Corner Stone: And in the end all of it is talk.

  125. 125.

    different-church-lady

    January 19, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): You said it better than I did.

  126. 126.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): “We” were. I agree because I know I was, have been and continue to.
    But that was absolutely not a dominant “meme” anywhere for our media or politicians. Including the president.

  127. 127.

    different-church-lady

    January 19, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    OK, let’s get this back on topic: at least make ’em sweat a bit, Tom.

  128. 128.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    @different-church-lady: I agree. I am, and have been, outraged that we’ve tossed the long time UI people and families to the fucking trash pile.
    We did this, not just Republicans.

  129. 129.

    kindness

    January 19, 2014 at 5:28 pm

    Stick a fork in this one, it’s done. Gimmie the late game.

  130. 130.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    Yeah, calling out the “1%” was so heinous and stupid.
    http://www.cbo.gov/publication/42537

  131. 131.

    JPL

    January 19, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    How come when Peyton has the ball, I can hear Omaha come across my tv loud and clear. When the Pats have the ball, nothing.

  132. 132.

    Jewish Steel

    January 19, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    Almost time for the false dawn of garbage time in this game.

  133. 133.

    raven

    January 19, 2014 at 5:31 pm

    Jailbreak Brady’s ass!

  134. 134.

    Baud

    January 19, 2014 at 5:31 pm

    @JPL:

    Crowd noise?

  135. 135.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    If I were Denver I would start subbing in my second and third team D players.

  136. 136.

    different-church-lady

    January 19, 2014 at 5:33 pm

    @JPL: Crowd gets quiet for the hometown quarterback, but roars to drown out the audibles from the visiting quarterback.

    As a sound professional I’m very impressed with the new mic’ing for football coverage this year. I think they’re hiding radio mics in the back of the centers’ jerseys. It’s also possible the mic on the Patriots center has stopped working.

  137. 137.

    MikeJ

    January 19, 2014 at 5:33 pm

    They just demonstrated how I broke my nose playing football at Mizzou. Rushing the qb, collided with a teammate.

    We played co-ed flag football for keeps.

  138. 138.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:33 pm

    Ok. This may be it.

  139. 139.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    January 19, 2014 at 5:33 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Media, yes, I agree- if you’re talking about the mainstream media. But when were they ever out front on a liberal, populist issue?

    Politicians. not so much in agreement. The progressive third- including Obama- was having the discussion.

  140. 140.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:34 pm

    Brady throwing to Kareem Abdul Jabaar in the end zone.

  141. 141.

    The Sailor

    January 19, 2014 at 5:35 pm

    @Baud: “Crowd noise? ”

    Oxygen.

  142. 142.

    different-church-lady

    January 19, 2014 at 5:35 pm

    Well, that might make it look like less of a beatdown.

    The problem is now our defense has to go back on the field.

  143. 143.

    KG

    January 19, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    @LanceThruster: different brands of helmets. The NFL and NCAA have four or five approved brands, I think it is. Player preference.

    @JPL: crowd noise?

  144. 144.

    Baud

    January 19, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    Manning can end it right here with a nice long drive.

  145. 145.

    Yatsuno

    January 19, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    @different-church-lady: Good news: The Pats scored a TD!

    Bad news: They’re doing it wayyy too late in the game. Now it’s only two scores! THEY CAN STILL WIN IT!

  146. 146.

    taylormattd

    January 19, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    BOOOOOOOOOO Niners.

  147. 147.

    different-church-lady

    January 19, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    @Baud: Or make it interesting with one of his prototype picks. (Which will only make it interesting.)

  148. 148.

    taylormattd

    January 19, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    @Yatsuno: I’m starting to freak the fuck out Yat.

  149. 149.

    MikeJ

    January 19, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    @Bob In Portland:

    Traditionally Portland has been a satellite of Seattle,

    And there are a fair number of Portlanders who will cheer against Seattle because of that.

  150. 150.

    different-church-lady

    January 19, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    @Yatsuno: It’s still possible, but I think they’ve just run out of Junior Varsity Magic for the year.

    Ooh… ALMOST the pic I predicted.

  151. 151.

    LanceThruster

    January 19, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    @LanceThruster:

    Does it serve a function like facemasks or is it like choosing ‘classic’ team colors (but left to the player) ?

  152. 152.

    different-church-lady

    January 19, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    When the Pats have the ball, nothing.

    Oh, wait, I thought you were talking about the sound, but you’re actually talking about their play.

  153. 153.

    Keith G

    January 19, 2014 at 5:41 pm

    @rda909:

    “Occupy” was used by the media to hurt the chances of the American Jobs Act passing in any form, and to continue their “divide and conquer” tactics of liberals, and unfortuntely most of them are too dumb to see it.

    One of the more bizarre assertions I have read here.

  154. 154.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:42 pm

    Don’t know why’d you go for big yards there. Just dip and duck it down.

  155. 155.

    Baud

    January 19, 2014 at 5:42 pm

    Nice kick.

  156. 156.

    raven

    January 19, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    @LanceThruster:

    NFL players are permitted to wear any brand’s helmet as long as the model is approved by NOCSAE, the National Operating Committee on Standards for Athletic Equipment

  157. 157.

    Yatsuno

    January 19, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    @taylormattd: I’ve been freaked since we won last week. But nothing would make me happier than to send Kaepernick home to kiss his biceps and turtles for comfort.

  158. 158.

    raven

    January 19, 2014 at 5:47 pm

    @Yatsuno: How’s your rehab coming? I’m having to decide whether or not to have a shoulder surgery that will require a long and nasty one myself.

  159. 159.

    Yatsuno

    January 19, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    @raven: I’m working with a really good rehab guy right now except for his scheduling practises. He calls about an hour before he’s ready to head over to the ranch and I have basically an hour to get ready. It’s a bit annoying. Good news is the pain has gone way down in the past couple of days. I hope it’s not illusory.

  160. 160.

    raven

    January 19, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    @Yatsuno: Good! If memory serves it comes and goes.

  161. 161.

    different-church-lady

    January 19, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    TD here would at least add some drama to the proceedings.

  162. 162.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    Say what now?

  163. 163.

    Baud

    January 19, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    Prevent defense prevents you from winning.

  164. 164.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    For some reason I thought I heard whistle blowing during the play, but I guess I did not.

  165. 165.

    LanceThruster

    January 19, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    Thx KG/raven.

  166. 166.

    Keith G

    January 19, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    Always a good plan to forgo intense pressure on the passer.

  167. 167.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    Need the ball twice in 3 minutes. Gonna be tough.

  168. 168.

    different-church-lady

    January 19, 2014 at 5:55 pm

    “Remember, New England has all of its time outs.”

    Yeah. Thanks for that.

  169. 169.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:55 pm

    Put in Osweiler!!

  170. 170.

    Corner Stone

    January 19, 2014 at 5:57 pm

    No turnovers in this game? That’s pretty tight football.

  171. 171.

    max

    January 19, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    @Keith G: One of the more bizarre assertions I have read here.

    Muh?

    @rda909: During W. Bush’s time, the media would barely mention, if it all, major protests againt the Iraq Invasion where 100K+ would show up,

    Well, yes. Because the media was cheerleading the Iraq invasion. And obviously, those damn dirty hippies who showed up to protest Iraq were hurting the chances of peace and of Democrats for ever and ever, if I remember my New Republic school of thought correctly.

    so it was odd to me when 50 people

    Bit more than that. Quite a bit more.

    in some small park in NYC were all of a sudden front page news,

    OK, I absolutely agree with the implicit assertion that the media loves dissent during Democratic presidencies and becomes avoidant during Republican presidencies.

    while President Obama’s Jobs Act push went to the backpages.

    Yeah, they had just started that up – partly because of the previous escapades around the debt ceiling which damaged the economy. (They introduced the bill on 9/8/2011 and Occupy started up on 9/17/2011.) But then media were ignoring it right off the bat because they considered it dead on arrival, which it was. The House GOP was never ever going to pass it.

    “Occupy” was used by the media to hurt the chances of the American Jobs Act passing in any form,

    FEH. Obama approval’s rating had gone into the toilet in August – pre-Occupy. A House GOP that hates Obama and is trying to position for an election in 2012 and further believes that they are on the cusp of final conservative victory is not going to pass a Democratic bill. One could point out that the bill (or anything like it) has still not passed in 2013, in spite of Obama’s reelection. One also could note that a gun control bill and an immigration bill have not passed either.

    and to continue their “divide and conquer” tactics of liberals, and unfortuntely most of them are too dumb to see it.

    The entire hinge of your argument is that somehow the House GOP of 2011 would have passed the AJA if Occupy hadn’t shown up.

    max
    [‘Someone around here is too dumb to see something.’]

  172. 172.

    The Sailor

    January 19, 2014 at 6:00 pm

    Imma warning you folks, it’s 2 minutes.

  173. 173.

    LanceThruster

    January 19, 2014 at 6:01 pm

    @raven:

    Very interesting and informative. It pays to ask those.in the know.

  174. 174.

    Baud

    January 19, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    It’s over.

  175. 175.

    The Sailor

    January 19, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    FEH. Obama approval’s rating had gone into the toilet in August

    Really?

  176. 176.

    Yatsuno

    January 19, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    @Baud: I kaz haz new handegg thread? Kthxbai!

  177. 177.

    Keith G

    January 19, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    @max:

    OK, I absolutely agree with the implicit assertion that the media loves dissent during Democratic presidencies and becomes avoidant during Republican presidencies.

    Yeah, like those 2006 immigration reform protests that were so tots (that’s too gay even for me) totally ignored by the media.

  178. 178.

    PaulW

    January 19, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    Colorado now representing the Doobie Bowl.

    Didn’t California have a “medical marijuana” law or did that get struck down? Otherwise we gotta wait on Seattle to win.

    I am, by the by, a non-smoker, but I support moderated legalization of marijuana because the current war on drugs is skewed against pot instead more lethal drugs, because marijuana can be a well-taxed cash crop, because alcohol can be worse for physical and mental health and yet we’ve tried banning that and it didn’t work.

    Just waiting for next season though for the Bucs to turn it around and make their own Super Bowl run again.

  179. 179.

    burnspbesq

    January 19, 2014 at 6:17 pm

    @MikeJ:

    And there are a fair number of Portlanders who will cheer against Seattle because of that.

    Portlanders don’t cheer, except for the Timbers. You gain hipster cred by joining the Timbers Army, and lose it by cheering for anyone else because it’s so non-ironic.

  180. 180.

    Yatsuno

    January 19, 2014 at 6:22 pm

    @raven: Could be a sign the healing is done. I only get occasional aches on the scar area but that’s pretty much par for the course. What’s getting under my skin now is that the right side is KILLING me. It’s going to be a long six to eight months until I can get the bionics on that side as well.

  181. 181.

    raven

    January 19, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    @Yatsuno: That’s exactly what I’m looking at in terms of time. The torn labrum surgery puts you in a recliner for a couple of months and then long, crucial rehab to regain strength and ROM. Did I mention healing can be longer for old people?

  182. 182.

    opiejeanne

    January 19, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    @PaulW: California still has medical mj.

    Washington is struggling with how to regulate pot now that it’s legal. I saw an article that mentioned in passing that the price for legal pot was the same as buying it illegally, can’t remember but I think that was Colorado. Not sure why they aren’t undercutting the street price, which has been one of the arguments for legalizing it.

  183. 183.

    GHayduke (formerly lojasmo)

    January 19, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Does anyone think we would be talking about income inequality, our disparate economy and the poor without the Occupy struggle?

    Don’t know about you, but I was concerned with, and talking about these things before occupy.

  184. 184.

    PsiFighter37

    January 19, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    This should be a good game – these guys dislike each other.

  185. 185.

    Yatsuno

    January 19, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    @opiejeanne: I think WA is watching CO very carefully for any of the major bugs so things can get addressed early. I think taking it slow will make things go much more smoothly.

    BTW thanks for the visit! I did want to do stupid human tricks for you but probably better that you left at halftime. Oh and MikeJ was sick as a dog that’s why he didn’t show.

    @PsiFighter37: Trying to decide if I should be as nervous as I am. I guess if they get the option to defer to the second half that it’ll make me feel a bit better. But oh please Hacks get this thing DONE!!!

  186. 186.

    tybee

    January 19, 2014 at 6:43 pm

    well, that didn’t start well

  187. 187.

    raven

    January 19, 2014 at 6:46 pm

    @tybee: all a matter of perspective

  188. 188.

    PsiFighter37

    January 19, 2014 at 6:48 pm

    SF has to be kicking themselves – gotta score a TD with that short a field.

  189. 189.

    opiejeanne

    January 19, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    @tybee: No, it’s not going well, not yet.

  190. 190.

    kindness

    January 19, 2014 at 7:31 pm

    It’s going well for SF.

  191. 191.

    Ruckus

    January 19, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    @raven:
    I went through 6 months of rehab for my torn rotator cuff starting just a few days after surgery. I couldn’t move nearly as well right after the surgery as before. But then it got a lot better. This was also 10-12 years ago when I was 30 yrs younger.

  192. 192.

    PaulW

    January 19, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    go Bucs.

    next year.

  193. 193.

    rda909

    January 19, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    @Keith G: Huh? That’s exactly what happened, and continues to happen as liberals continue to argue if Occupy or President Obama is more concerned about income inequality. Mission accomplished for the media owners.

  194. 194.

    rda909

    January 19, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    @max: When Occupy showed up on the cover the NYT, it was a small group of people in Zuccotti Park. I was pointing this out at the time while it was happening how strange it was, that this small protest was getting front page and lead story treatment day after day. President Obama’s “bully pulpit” push across the country for the AJA became a back page story right away, and his charge to get people to call their representatives went basically unnoticed from that point on. That’s a simple fact.

    It was bonus for the media owners that the privileged progressives carried this further and added to their consistent “Obummer fails again” narratives. Divide and conquer all the way.

  195. 195.

    kindness

    January 19, 2014 at 10:20 pm

    Exciting game. Niners lost. Boo hoo. Still good game.

    Let the Legal Weed Bowl commence. NY cops are hard core on pot smokers. Be careful out there.

  196. 196.

    opiejeanne

    January 20, 2014 at 12:17 am

    @kindness: One of our idiot players was suspended for the entire season for weed.

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