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Thursday Evening Open Thread: Oh Joy

by Anne Laurie|  January 23, 20145:55 pm| 130 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republican Stupidity

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While you’re busy lamenting that President Obama is constitutionally constrained from winning his third term, here’s news of the guy I predict will be the Republican challenger in 2016. Dave Weigel, reporting on the anti-choice cadres at yesterday’s ‘March for Life’:

… What I found new, and interesting, was the concerted effort to emphasize the fun and beauty of babies, and downplay the Bible-banging and pictures of shredded fetuses. It’s been happening for a while, but it’s explicit now. Even Rick Santorum, who showed up at a pre-March seminar at the Family Research Council, was talking about it.

“This is a movement about unconditional love,” said Santorum. “Not a movement of judgment. That’s an incredible important transition for this movement in, what I think, is a very positive direction… for the young people, this is visual, and it’s hard to see the little baby in there and say it’s not a life.”

Of course, Santorum (who was wearing a jersey from the University of Dubuque), went on to challenge liberals to defend the culture of death. “Why don’t they go out there and say, we need more abortions, if it’s such a great thing?” he asked. And when a questioner asked him to run for president, he confirmed he was thinking about it and reminded everyone that he’d won 11 primaries or caucuses, only some of them binding, in 2012.

Unconditional love! Let the Savonarola rebranding begin!
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Apart from staying on those New-Year-resolution diets (who can eat when considering Rick Sanctorum?), what’s on the agenda for the evening?

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    January 23, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    I’m going to have an abortion because apparently we need more of them.

  2. 2.

    Ash Can

    January 23, 2014 at 6:01 pm

    REBRANDING!!!

  3. 3.

    BGinCHI

    January 23, 2014 at 6:04 pm

    Apparently for Santorum and his ilk, “it’s hard to see the little baby in there and say it’s not a life,” but impossible to see a person of color, or someone who has lost a job, or someone who can’t afford health care but needs it as also a life.

    Fuck their hypocrisy.

  4. 4.

    raven

    January 23, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    Finishing off the navy bean soup with smoked turkey necks, carrots and collard. Soon as the cornbread is done we’ll chow down!

  5. 5.

    aimai

    January 23, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    Ok, I’ll be the first to say it. We need more abortions. And I’d like to start with the entire Republican Candidate line up in 2016–who is with me?

  6. 6.

    jonas

    January 23, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    @BGinCHI: They’re ardent defenders of human dignity, from conception all the way to birth.

  7. 7.

    some guy

    January 23, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    unconditional love.

    unconditional love for increases in WIC funding
    unconditional love for universal pre-K
    unconditional love for subsidized daycare

    uh-huh. unconditional love.

  8. 8.

    TooManyJens

    January 23, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    Um, anyone know what this is about?

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/dinesh-dsouza-indicted-for-campaign

    EDIT: Wait, there’s more: http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pressreleases/January14/DineshDSouzaCharges.php

    Preet Bharara, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, and George Venizelos, the Assistant Director-in-Charge of the New York Office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”), announced today an Indictment charging DINESH D’SOUZA with violating the federal campaign finance laws by making illegal contributions to a United States Senate campaign in the names of others and causing false statements to be made to the Federal Election Commission in connection with those contributions. D’SOUZA is expected to be presented and arraigned tomorrow in Manhattan federal court before U.S. District Judge Richard M. Berman.

  9. 9.

    Bill in Section 147

    January 23, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    Why do Republicans always think that women do not have even a remote concept of abortion and are always trying to Conservasplain how special their special love of women is. Maybe Uncle Sugar should buy the women a hearing aid so when you line the walkways to the clinic they can hear you scream, “When I am in heaven I will still love your poor lost soul burning forever in the fiery pit of hell.”

  10. 10.

    patrick II

    January 23, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    Unconditional love! Let the Savonarola rebranding begin!

    I wonder how much this change in strategy, and particularly for the Catholic Santorum, has to do with the new Pope’s emphasis on love and kindness. Conservative Catholics make up a pretty large segment of the anti-abortion single issue voters.

  11. 11.

    raven

    January 23, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    @some guy: My wife works with WIC and they got their breastfeeding peer counselor program extended.

  12. 12.

    kdaug

    January 23, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    I’ll have two.

    A more interesting question: Where do these scolds come from? What peculiar form of psychosis makes people want to insert themselves into the lives of others?

  13. 13.

    Schlemizel

    January 23, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    Since the most reliable source of news on TV these days is The Daily Show I guess we shouldn’t be surprised that cracked.com does history better than most media. Juicers will appreciate this article

    http://www.cracked.com/article_20777_5-famous-pieces-presidential-trivia-that-are-total-bs.html

  14. 14.

    shelly

    January 23, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    Hell ya, that’s all I do all day long, walk around calling for more abortions cause they’re just so greeeeeaaaat!

    Quoting Charlie Pierce: Have I told you lately what a colossal dick Santorum is?

  15. 15.

    max

    January 23, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    here’s news of the guy I predict will be the Republican challenger in 2016.

    I’m not making any bets, on account I can’t tell who is in (versus who is building the brand). In terms of inside track, Ryan looks like he has a slight edge here. But Santorum will definitely be in the mix. Vague punnery not really intended.

    what’s on the agenda for the evening?

    This here household got one them political survey things from one John Boehner, no less. (No, not a mistaken addressee, which I sometimes get, like the the cheap pro-life postcard printed entirely in red, that indicated that abortion threatens the lives of elderly women.) I really don’t know what they were thinking, but I am thinking about filling it in and sending it back, sans donation.

    “3. Do you agree with the Republican position that lower taxes promote economic growth and job creation?” “Oh, HELL NO.”

    max
    [‘”10. Do you agree that the debt limit should used as an action-forcing mechanism to achieve real spending cuts?” “BAHAHAHA.”‘]

  16. 16.

    some guy

    January 23, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    Santorum 4 President. the jokes write themselves

  17. 17.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 23, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    They keep tossing up the babies, when it’s very obvious from everything they do that it’s really about punishing sluts.

    Santorum is a monster.

  18. 18.

    JPL

    January 23, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    I wonder what the pro lifers think about keeping a brain dead woman alive in order to protect a fetus that is distinctly abnormal according to sonograms. If the fetus can feel pain, which is the belief of many pro-lifers, wouldn’t this be construed as torture. It’s time to let Marlise Munoz rip.

  19. 19.

    LanceThruster

    January 23, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    Unconditional love!*

    *(Some conditions may apply – Not valid in Red States)

  20. 20.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 23, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    @aimai:

    Rih Santorum is, all by himself, a strong argument for the legalization of retroactive abortion in specific cases.

  21. 21.

    LanceThruster

    January 23, 2014 at 6:16 pm

    Sounds like a marketing catchphrase.

    Santorum – When your love is unconditional!

  22. 22.

    sensesfail

    January 23, 2014 at 6:16 pm

    @kdaug:

    With conservatives, it’s worse than that:

    With one breath, they will scream that the government should restrict freedoms for certain groups (e.g. women).

    With the next breath, they will scream about the “evil” government taking away their freedoms.

  23. 23.

    Betty Cracker

    January 23, 2014 at 6:16 pm

    Does anyone seriously believe Santorum will be the GOP nominee? I don’t doubt he’ll run, but does anyone really think he’ll win? I’m not sure even the Republicans are that goddamn stupid, though on the other hand, their bench has been seriously screwed with the fall of McDonnell and Christie…

    @aimai: Co-signed!

  24. 24.

    Violet

    January 23, 2014 at 6:17 pm

    That cartoon made me laugh! Stupid autocorrect!

    As for the forced birthers, I heard some interview on NPR yesterday and whoever from the forced birther side they were interviewing said there were so many young faces at their march and it was incredibly encouraging for the movement going forward.

    Does anyone have any demographic info on the forced birther movement?

  25. 25.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 23, 2014 at 6:17 pm

    @some guy:

    The instant you leave the birth canal, you’re on your own, kid. Good luck.

  26. 26.

    LanceThruster

    January 23, 2014 at 6:17 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    I’m not sure even the Republicans are that goddamn stupid…

    Facts not in evidence.

  27. 27.

    kdaug

    January 23, 2014 at 6:17 pm

    ETA, just read down one post and saw John was asking the same damned question.

    “Who the fuck are you to judge?”

    Screw it. Got a shindig worth braving the crap weather for tonight. I’ll check back and see if y’all have figured it out..

  28. 28.

    ThresherK

    January 23, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    Looking for some advice for an enameled cast-iron skillet.

    I can destroy the seasoning on a standard, brand-new, pre-seasoned Lodge like nobody’s business. Really, I can make one of them rust in the middle of Death Valley.

    Thinking of buying something else. Any name-brand recommendations?

  29. 29.

    Big R

    January 23, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    @TooManyJens: Roll that back. THE Dinesh D’Souza? How do prominent, and presumably intelligent, people (of whatever political stripe) get the notion that this is a good idea?

  30. 30.

    KG

    January 23, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    @max: Ryan hasn’t run for president before, therefore, under the unwritten rules of the Republican primary system, he cannot be the nominee. Ignore the nominations of Ford and GWB, the GOP does. Again, the GOP always goes with whoever is next in line. I see three possible contenders for this title: Santorum, Newt, and Huckabee. Jeb is a wild card because of his lineage. None of these other potential candidates are going to win, that’s just not how the GOP rolls.

  31. 31.

    2liberal

    January 23, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    Apart from staying on those New-Year-resolution diets

    i have lost 10 pounds this month. The real test is next month – goal is to lose 5 LBs minimum and stretch goal of another 10 LBS.

  32. 32.

    Big R

    January 23, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    @ThresherK: Are you cleaning your Lodge with soap and water? Don’t do that, except once a year, after which you immediately re-season.

    Clean that Lodge with kosher salt. Seriously.

  33. 33.

    TooManyJens

    January 23, 2014 at 6:20 pm

    @Big R:

    THE Dinesh D’Souza?

    The very one.

    And to answer your question: “intelligent” assumes facts not in evidence, and “prominent” means likely to believe he can get away with it.

  34. 34.

    Southern Beale

    January 23, 2014 at 6:21 pm

    Right-winger D’nesh D’souza was indicted for campaign finance fraud today. So, that happened.

  35. 35.

    gbear

    January 23, 2014 at 6:23 pm

    @Bill in Section 147:

    “When I am in heaven I will still love your poor lost soul burning forever in the fiery pit of hell.”

    You know, that pretty much sums up everything that the christian conservatives are about.

  36. 36.

    schrodinger's cat

    January 23, 2014 at 6:25 pm

    Republican Utopia

    No access to contraception
    No science education
    Tax cuts for the 1%
    Laissez-faire economics
    Establishment of a state religion
    No safety net

    This will keep any potential immigrants away, so need for immigration reform.

  37. 37.

    PurpleGirl

    January 23, 2014 at 6:25 pm

    Discovering Communications has begun advertising their Puppy Bowl (on Animal Planet channel). I’ll be watching the Kitten Bowl on the Hallmark Channel.

    Puppies and Kitties… Yay.

  38. 38.

    schrodinger's cat

    January 23, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    @Southern Beale: He had it coming!

  39. 39.

    scav

    January 23, 2014 at 6:29 pm

    We wuv you! Submit your lusty body in all its aspects to our Mighty Authoritah!

    Still a bit long for their bumper sticker, but they sure are giving it a hell of a coordinated road test today.

  40. 40.

    SarahT

    January 23, 2014 at 6:29 pm

    I’m having an abortion as I type this. Hang on a minute…ah, that’s better ! Off yto celebrate death, now. Have a good night, everyone.

  41. 41.

    jl

    January 23, 2014 at 6:30 pm

    Like commenter someguy, I am sure that Rih will put one and one together, and realize that if babies are so cute and beautiful, it would be worth working really hard to spring adequate private and public coin to give all those bright and beautiful kids a good start in life.

    But maybe not…

    And the GOP should be cursed wit this guy, who is so mean spirited he cannot resist any cheap shot that crosses his mind:

    “Why don’t they go out there and say, we need more abortions, if it’s such a great thing?”

    Edit: I should have said false repulsive smear, but I am trying for a little civility here.

  42. 42.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 23, 2014 at 6:30 pm

    This is a movement about unconditional love,

    That word, Mr. Santorum…it does not mean what you think it means.

  43. 43.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 23, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    @TooManyJens:

    “intelligent” assumes facts not in evidence, and “prominent” means likely to believe he can get away with it.

    Word.

  44. 44.

    Jim Foolish Literalist

    January 23, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    I heard Mark McKinnon, Beltway-designated moderate-centrist-Republican, say that he thought Santorum will run if Huckabee doesn’t. Peronsally, I think Santorum is the stronger candidate because in between his really weird musings on anything connected with lady parts– the clip of him saying “birth control is NOT okay” skeeves me out beyond snark, the boy ain’t right– he actually talks about jobs as something more than something bestowed by Our Overlords. He was one dumb remark about Kennedy from putting a serious hurt (if not an actual loss) on Our Willard. I think Huckabee would rack up a few Southern states and fade away.

  45. 45.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 23, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    @PurpleGirl:

    Oh, come on now. Richard Sherman is at least as adorable as your average puppy or kitty.

    Also, too, he’s a Seahawk!

  46. 46.

    JPL

    January 23, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    @TooManyJens: One wonders who campaign he was funneling the illegal funds.

  47. 47.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 23, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    @Jim Foolish Literalist:

    Huckabee has his pardon problem, and I don’t think any of Santorum’s kids have engaged in malice aforethought animal cruelty.

  48. 48.

    The Other Chuck

    January 23, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    @ThresherK: Lodge makes good enameled cast iron too. Just as good as Le Creuset and way less spendy.

    I eventually gave up on the bare cast iron fetish, because frankly it’s just annoying. Half the annoyance is listening to all the opinions about seasoning. Here’s mine: Seasoning is just something you put back on occasionally, it’s not a bloody heirloom. Daily soaping is still out, but if the pan’s filthy, it needs washing, period. Seasoning is a hard thin layer of completely polymerized oil, not old rancid grease.

    Oh, and for rust? CLR.

  49. 49.

    PaulW

    January 23, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    @Southern Beale:

    The D’nesh thing needs to be its own thread, BJ peeps. Make it happen.

  50. 50.

    ThresherK

    January 23, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    @Big R: I don’t know how to describe its current state. There was rust, which I scrubbed kosher salt into with a ScotchBrite device. Then after wiping out, I boiled with water and a lot of crud came off. It left me with what I though was no rust, but attempts to re-Crisco it got me to where rubbing that off showed I’d run out of the paper towels before I ran out of dark gunk.

    Are you a fan of the “soaking with vinegar & water, then scrubbing” derusting method?

    (PS Everything I can have ruined with that new Lodge I’ve also done with an old piece or three that have been found in the proverbial late great aunt’s attic.)

  51. 51.

    CaseyL

    January 23, 2014 at 6:38 pm

    Oh, Joy indeed: FBI subpoenas Christie records, D’Souza is under indictment, and the McDonnells are about to test the limits of spousal privilege.

    Not a bad day. Not a bad day at all.

  52. 52.

    Mike in NC

    January 23, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    Obama is constitutionally constrained from winning his third term

    Has any part of the Wingnut Wurlitzer yet sounded the alarm about the plans of “That One” to amend the Constitution to become Dictator-for-Life? So disappointing.

  53. 53.

    JPL

    January 23, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    @TooManyJens: Huffington said he was campaigning for Wendy Long in her bid to beat Kristen Gillibrand. That would just be stupid. Cuomo was correct that NY is a moderate state.

  54. 54.

    raven

    January 23, 2014 at 6:40 pm

    @The Other Chuck: Just keep making roux in it.

  55. 55.

    Cacti

    January 23, 2014 at 6:40 pm

    @Jim Foolish Literalist:

    I heard Mark McKinnon, Beltway-designated moderate-centrist-Republican, say that he thought Santorum will run if Huckabee doesn’t. Peronsally, I think Santorum is the stronger candidate because in between his really weird musings on anything connected with lady parts– the clip of him saying “birth control is NOT okay” skeeves me out beyond snark, the boy ain’t right

    Santorum would finally be a candidate that the true believers would get behind…

    And would go on to a Goldwater-esque curb stomping in the general election.

  56. 56.

    Jim Foolish Literalist

    January 23, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    @Mike in NC: I wonder if Obama would go for three if he could. Bubba would’ve, Reagan’s intimates knew he shouldn’t, Dumbya was bored once he vindicated/trumped Poppy and his war was no fun anymore.

  57. 57.

    Mike in NC

    January 23, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    @TooManyJens:

    D’SOUZA is expected to be presented and arraigned tomorrow in Manhattan federal court before U.S. District Judge Richard M. Berman.

    Stand up guy sacrifices himself to draw heat from Chris Christie scandals. You da man!

  58. 58.

    scav

    January 23, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    @raven: <snort>

  59. 59.

    jl

    January 23, 2014 at 6:43 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Let’s persuade the GOP to draft Sherman for 2016. He can go into ‘respect mah authoratah” mode with dash and flair.

    He can also switch off his jackass mode (edit: at least when he is apologizing or at damage control pressers), which will distinguish him from the other candidates, and if he can slip through the primaries that will be good in the general.

    He apparently has no indictments or convictions, which will distinguish him from the ‘responsible moderate corporatist’ GOPers.

    Jeb can be his VP, for balance.

  60. 60.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 23, 2014 at 6:43 pm

    @JPL:

    He’s not called Dumbshit D’Dumbass for nothing, you know.

  61. 61.

    Comrade Jake

    January 23, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    Love the Dinesh story – couldn’t have happened to a better asshat.

  62. 62.

    raven

    January 23, 2014 at 6:45 pm

    Be the person your dog thinks you are.

  63. 63.

    Jim Foolish Literalist

    January 23, 2014 at 6:45 pm

    @Mike in NC: and draw attention to Obama’s IRS plot against Kelsey Grammar and Jon Cryer!

    @Cacti: Santorum will never be more than a spoiler-shit stirrer. When it looked like he might have a chance last time, the GOP establishment was in a blind panic. The convention would’ve drafted Jebbie or Little Mitch. Just occurred to me, Mitch Daniels looks a bit like Vladmir Putin’s non-tiger-wrestling younger brother.

  64. 64.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 23, 2014 at 6:46 pm

    @jl:

    A problem, though, is Sherman comes off waaaaay too intelligent when he’s not on an adrenalin high after making a play that arguably sent his team to the Superbowl.

    Also, too, the guy has the same problem with melanin that Obama has.

  65. 65.

    srv

    January 23, 2014 at 6:47 pm

    We need an Act Blue for Santorum

    For the children.

  66. 66.

    geg6

    January 23, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    @PaulW:

    Yeah. Too delicious.

    @Cacti:

    Oh please please PLEASE! The FSM doesn’t love me enough though, so I’m not going to get too excited. Yet. Never underestimate the level of stupid among GOP primary voters.

  67. 67.

    ThresherK

    January 23, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    @The Other Chuck: I treasure my Lodge enameled Dutch oven, especially for the interior. It gets dirty (chili, especially) but I can get the actual food matter out of it.

    How do you find the use of “complete enamel” like inside inside their Dutch ovens vs. the “black matte enamel” of the skillets?

    I notice that others like Cuisinart have many of the same restrictions: “Can” be dishwashered, but you really shouldn’t. “Porcelain enamel interior”, no metal utensils/cleaning implements.

  68. 68.

    scav

    January 23, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    Ohhhh I am a mean person. Things may finally get a little unblocked about catching up ‘mercan credit cards to socialíst technology. 1.1million cards at Neiman Marcus over several months. Kee-rist another mess. But hitting closer to those delicate toes whose economic whining changes policy faster.

  69. 69.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 23, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    From the US Attorney’s press release:

    “The charges contained in the Indictment are merely accusations and the defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.”

    So don’t jump to any conclusions. I’m talking to you, Ed Meese.

  70. 70.

    Yatsuno

    January 23, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    @max:

    10. Do you agree that the debt limit should used as an action-forcing mechanism to achieve real spending cuts?” “BAHAHAHA

    Please please PLEASE tell me that was your actual answer…

  71. 71.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 23, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    @Yatsuno:

    Please proceed, Rethuglicans!

  72. 72.

    Schlemizel

    January 23, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    I believe that Huckleberry has a better chance as he pretends to be sane unlike little Rickey. It is possible that he could carry the wingnut primary vote but that would speed the end of today’s GOP as the faux-libertarians and the business wing would see a disaster & want a slightly less frothy candidate. Pasta how I wish that would happen – any decent Dem against Ol Frothy and Ryan/Paul. My guess is the fighting would leak down into the local races & give the new President a sane Congress to work with.

  73. 73.

    geg6

    January 23, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    Meanwhile, John made chicken noodle soup and the Pens are on. Do I drink the only bottle of wine in the house with the soup and good crusty bread? I say yes even though it’s a red, Comfort food and drink on a 7F evening.

  74. 74.

    Mnemosyne

    January 23, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    @kdaug:

    What peculiar form of psychosis makes people want to insert themselves into the lives of others?

    Voyeurism. Most people can fulfill the need with movies and TV, but the lives of fundamentalists are so hemmed in that they don’t have many outlets other than trying to insert themselves directly into strangers’ lives.

  75. 75.

    Schlemizel

    January 23, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    @geg6:

    Waahhhh – if it were 50 degrees warmer water would still freeze here at the moment! Drinking, red, white does not matter, although brown really would be preferred, drinking is the ONLY answer!

  76. 76.

    ranchandsyrup

    January 23, 2014 at 7:00 pm

    Getting ready for anniversary trip this weekend. My wife put up a post about the concert we’re going to see.

  77. 77.

    max

    January 23, 2014 at 7:00 pm

    @KG: Ryan hasn’t run for president before, therefore, under the unwritten rules of the Republican primary system, he cannot be the nominee. Ignore the nominations of Ford and GWB, the GOP does. Again, the GOP always goes with whoever is next in line. I see three possible contenders for this title: Santorum, Newt, and Huckabee. Jeb is a wild card because of his lineage. None of these other potential candidates are going to win, that’s just not how the GOP rolls.

    But Ryan did run for VP so he has that. Right now, the name recognition for the R primaries seems to be Rand Paul/Jeb!/Christie/Ryan, with Christie sinking.

    The R’s lack good candidates, by which I mean they have candidates that represent their public positions and that’s not good for them. (That being the whole point of Christie – a guy who is a hard R but doesn’t SEEM to be a hard R.)

    At any rate, Ryan has lots of establishment love, so a Paul/Ryan race would probably go to Ryan, for example, but there will be other candidates in the mix, and none of them have the proper mix of ‘likability’ and ruthless ideological dedication.

    max
    [‘Jump ball! Where’s Mitt?’]

  78. 78.

    SectarianSofa

    January 23, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    @TooManyJens:
    Heh, just saw that. Came here to see if anyone had mentioned it yet.

  79. 79.

    Elizabelle

    January 23, 2014 at 7:02 pm

    Ah, you’re already discussing Dinesh D’Souza’s legal troubles.

    Another day, another Republican up for public corruption. Indicted yet!

    Dinesh D’Souza, a conservative commentator and best-selling author, has been indicted by a federal grand jury for arranging excessive campaign contributions to a candidate for the U.S. Senate.

    According to an indictment made public on Thursday in federal court in Manhattan, D’Souza around August 2012 reimbursed people who he had directed to contribute $20,000 to the candidate’s campaign. The candidate was not named in the indictment.

    [The candidate appears to be Wendy Long, a fellow alumna of Dartmouth.]

    D’Souza was charged in the indictment with one count of making illegal contributions in the names of others, and one count of causing false statements to be made.

    Federal law in 2012 limited primary and general election campaign contributions to $2,500 each, for a total of $5,000, from any individual to any one candidate.

    “As we have long said, this Office and the FBI take a zero tolerance approach to corruption of the electoral process,” the U.S. Attorney for Manhattan, Preet Bharara, said in a statement released by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Bharara is an Obama appointee.

    Corruption of the electoral process.

  80. 80.

    ThresherK

    January 23, 2014 at 7:03 pm

    @The Other Chuck: I treasure my Lodge enameled Dutch oven, especially for the interior. It gets dirty (chili, especially) but I can get the actual food matter out of it.

    Currenlty mulling over the use of “complete enamel” like inside inside their Dutch ovens vs. the “black matte enamel” of the skillets.

    I noted that Cuisnart’s enameled cast iron skillet also has the same kind of restrictions: No metal utensils, no metal brushes/pads to clean (but I shouldn’t need to), good to 500F, and you can dishwasher it but you really shouldn’t. If that seems to be the way everyone is making the enameled skillets, I can live with those conditions.

    (PS My other comment is in moderation.)

  81. 81.

    Jim Foolish Literalist

    January 23, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    @max: If Ryan goes for it, and fades as I think he will/would, Mika and David Gregory will be bewildered indeed. I think he’s peaked. I’ll defer to the Cheeseheads among us, but I don’t see him as a Senator much less governor. I think Paulie Blue-Eyes destiny lies in the tall grass of Uncle Ruperts broad and verdant pastures.

  82. 82.

    burnspbesq

    January 23, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    Schadenfreudelicious.

  83. 83.

    sparrow

    January 23, 2014 at 7:08 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Also, when you live a miserable, hemmed-in life, one of the perks is supposed to be how much BETTER you are than everyone else. And one of the easiest ways to feel that is to lord it over people who are GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY… of doing something you’ve never even been tempted to do, because you’re a man (so no abortions) and you’re straight (so no gay marrying). It’s all about scoring easy points.

  84. 84.

    burnspbesq

    January 23, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    Here in SoCal, we are getting ready for the realization of the dumbest concept in the history of professional sports in America: hockey at Dodger Stadium.

  85. 85.

    KG

    January 23, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    @max: I don’t buy Ryan, but I can’t think of a GOP VP nominee that lost and ran after, other than Dole, but there was two decades between losing and running again (though he may have had a brief campaign in 1980). It’s possible, but not likely. If I were a betting man (wait, I am, just not on politics), I’d say Huckabee would be the favorite if he gets in. There will be someone running on the basis that it’s “his turn”, and that’s the guy that you should put money on.

    Personally, the only Republican I’d consider voting for would be Huntsman, but I don’t think he’s going to run (and there’s actually rumors of him running for governor of California, which would be… interesting).

  86. 86.

    Botsplainer

    January 23, 2014 at 7:10 pm

    @CaseyL:

    McDonnells are about to test the limits of spousal privilege.

    Most of the time a guy falls on his sword to protect mom on behalf of the kids. The next six months will reveal if he’s got the stones to do it.

  87. 87.

    Anoniminous

    January 23, 2014 at 7:11 pm

    @geg6:

    The No Red Wine with Chicken Rule is overblown. Depending on the seasonings a young zinfandel or other light red is perfectly fine.

  88. 88.

    Schlemizel

    January 23, 2014 at 7:13 pm

    @Jim Foolish Literalist:

    I see Ryan as the default for the Koch wing of the GOP, who else cold carry their water in such a pretty package, with the media supplied aura of seriousness? The wet-dream ticket for them would be to add Ayn Paul as VP to suck in the young & stupid. That only leaves the holy rollers. They will congeal around frothy or huckelberry. Its possible one side will fall in with the other but not for long & not with any enthusiasm.

  89. 89.

    Botsplainer

    January 23, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    This is not the family that people will vote into the White House.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/03/05/bill-maher-childishly-attacks-mike-huckabees-family-being-overweight

    Especially as it turns out that one of those lumps tortured and hung a dog.

  90. 90.

    KG

    January 23, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    @burnspbesq: I dunno, professional football in Jacksonville is a thing. And in two weeks we will see an outdoor, cold weather Super Bowl.

  91. 91.

    Schlemizel

    January 23, 2014 at 7:18 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    What are night time temps expected to be? We went last weekend to the Gopher games outside, it was 10 degrees or colder. They had to WARM the ice in order to make it work (colder than about 22 and what the zamboni lays down will not bond & just chips off). Dumbest damn idea in history. We have not played outside in years for a very good reason.

    We were bundled all to hell & it was not terrible but its a crappy place to watch hockey because you are half a mile from the ice. Log story but we really didn’t have a choice & had to go.

    Outdoor hockey in LA – may be the newest dumbest idea ever

  92. 92.

    Botsplainer

    January 23, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/12/17/details-of-huckabees-dog-torture-episode-coming-out/

    Hung, cut throat of and stoned a stray dog. Mike managed to get the prosecutor fired.

  93. 93.

    Anoniminous

    January 23, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    @Schlemizel:

    With no “it’s his turn” candidate I’d place my bet on the Corporate Wing candidate once they buy decide on one. Jeb is obvious. I’m not convinced he’s interested.

  94. 94.

    KG

    January 23, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    @Schlemizel: high of 79, low of 50. people in the stands will likely be in swimwear will be in tshirts because the game starts at 7.

  95. 95.

    burnspbesq

    January 23, 2014 at 7:21 pm

    @Schlemizel:

    Saturday’s expected high is in the upper 70s, low in the mid-40s. Typical January weather here. Will almost certainly be in the 70s at game time.

  96. 96.

    TerryC

    January 23, 2014 at 7:25 pm

    Perhaps this is a wild concept, but if one really believes that a not-to-be-harmed human life begins at conception (whatever you mean by that), then there is a problem in one’s beliefs far larger than pregnancy termination by humans.

    More than half of all pregnancies end up terminated without a birth and also without human agency causing the termination. I’ve heard 55M abortions by humans mentioned recently. That’s a fraction of the ~800M non human-induced abortions that happened since Roe v Wade that someone did—but it wasn’t Libtards. Hmm.

    If all of those were precious human lives, where’s all the anger at the being responsible for 800M more abortions: Whatever deity one thinks is in charge.

  97. 97.

    BruceFromOhio

    January 23, 2014 at 7:26 pm

    @TooManyJens: What it’s about is, Helium Boy fucked up thinking he wouldn’t get caught, or what he was doing wasn’t worth getting tracked down and cuffed.

    Left to stir the pot of some unbelievably delicious-smelling concoction MrsFromOhio has conjured up out of the Julie Sanhi Book of Magic, sipping some Jim Beam Black, and eyeing a craft-brewed stout as it warms up a bit from it’s stint in the garage, dreading the imminent cold of a 3F Friday morning commute.

    Typical January weather here, too!

  98. 98.

    Yatsuno

    January 23, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: He’s also 25. And considering his background, most likely not sympathetic to the GOP platform. Also too: braids.

  99. 99.

    BruceFromOhio

    January 23, 2014 at 7:30 pm

    “This is a movement about unconditional love,” said Santorum.

    No, it isn’t. You were a ratfuck soulless two-bit sonofabitch then, you are ratfuck soulless two-bit sonofabitch now, and you will always be a two-bit ratfucking soulless sonofabitch. Even so, I love you unconditionally, as much as one can love a dysfunctional in-law who will never amount to much more than a two-bit ratfuck… well, you know.

  100. 100.

    raven

    January 23, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    @Yatsuno: Them’s dreads not braids.

  101. 101.

    Kay

    January 23, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    @TooManyJens:

    They’re called “conduits”. It’s against the law to make a political donation acting as someone else; using a conduit.

    It happens fairly frequently in this state. The usual situation is where an employer gets his employees to write checks to a campaign or candidate and then reimburses the employee. You can’t do that.

  102. 102.

    Kay

    January 23, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    @TooManyJens:

    This was a conduit prosecution. It’s basically money laundering in campaign finance.

  103. 103.

    Patricia Kayden

    January 23, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    @Elizabelle: Couldn’t happen to a nicer man. Hope there is jail time in his near future. Another law breaking Christianist caught with his hands in the cookie jar.

  104. 104.

    Patricia Kayden

    January 23, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    @Elizabelle: Couldn’t happen to a nicer man. Hope there is jail time in his near future. Another law breaking Christianist caught with his hands in the cookie jar.

  105. 105.

    Mnemosyne

    January 23, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    @raven:

    Looking more closely, you are correct — I thought they were braids, too. Dreads are probably easier to keep up when you’re a pro athlete. Still a class marker here in Hell-Lay, and a middle/upper-class marker at that.

  106. 106.

    Kay

    January 23, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    If Christie is out (and I believe he’s out) and Kasich wins re-election as governor I think they push Kasich next because Walker is unelectable and they’re going to want a governor against Clinton, preferably from a state they need to win.

  107. 107.

    Keith G

    January 23, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    Ok, I’ll be the first to say it. We need more abortions. And I’d like to start with the entire Republican Candidate line up in 2016–who is with me?

    Santorum is, all by himself, a strong argument for the legalization of retroactive abortion in specific cases.

    I have never been overly concerned with political correctness, so I am a bit surprised with myself that I am feeling that we are past the point where we can be using the term ‘abortion’ to connotate a punishment, the removal of an irritation, or the ending of an existing life.

    To do so is to energize the word with the very meanings that are used by those who are determined to end access to safe and legal abortions.

    That probably sounds too sensitive and maybe it is.

  108. 108.

    Jim Foolish Literalist

    January 23, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    Ugh. Joan Walsh just got rings run around her by Mcihael Steele on Huckabee and the “libido” comments.

    @Kay: What’s your thumbnail take on Kasich’s chances?

  109. 109.

    Bubblegum Tate

    January 23, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    @Violet:

    Does anyone have any demographic info on the forced birther movement?

    I’m sure it tracks pretty closely with Fox News’ demographic.

    I vaguely recall forced birthers waving around a poll a little while back in which young voters said that they didn’t much like abortion. The forced birthers, naturally, took that poll to mean that the young voters are forced birthers as well; a quick jaunt into the details of the poll showed what you might expect: While young voters don’t like abortion, they have no interest in outlawing it.

  110. 110.

    Kay

    January 23, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    @Jim Foolish Literalist:

    Re-elect or GOP primary?

  111. 111.

    Jim Foolish Literalist

    January 23, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    @Kay: I was thinking GOP primary, but do you think he’ll be re-elected? He’s shown himself to be pretty flexible when it suits him, hasn’t he?

  112. 112.

    tybee

    January 23, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    @ThresherK:

    if you can hose up a plain jane cast iron pan, you’ll do the same to an enamel clad one.

    after cooking, clean it while it is still warm – use soap and water and a scotch pad if you feel it necessary – but after washing it, dry it immediately on a burner and wipe it down with oil or cooking spray when it is completely dried and still fairly warm.

    we have several cast iron frying pans and skillets that are over 100 years old…and they look fine.

  113. 113.

    tybee

    January 23, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    @Southern Beale:

    that made my day. :)

  114. 114.

    geg6

    January 23, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    Oh, I know. But I, myself prefer a white with something so light as soup. But it’s a Pinot noir, so it’s light enough. And will be delish with the raspberry cheesecake we’re having with dessert.

  115. 115.

    Kay

    January 23, 2014 at 8:02 pm

    @Jim Foolish Literalist:

    He polls ahead of the FitzGerald (the challenger) but Kasich is weak himself. A lot of the time Kasich sort of hovers around 40. His Democratic opponent made a mistake and had to replace his lt governor pick, but I think it happened early enough that it won’t hurt him.
    I met FitzGerald when he came out here and I was pretty impressed. I went because people told me “you will be impressed” and I was. He’s very focused and intense.
    But, I would still say Kasich is the favorite for re-elect.
    If he wins his governor race I would think he’d be their strongest primary candidate. I know Republicans here want a governor against Clinton because they will run on how she’s a horrible, out of touch DC politician and their governor is a yeoman farmer toiling away in the laboratory of the states.
    Which isn’t a bad approach, actually :)

  116. 116.

    Schlemizel

    January 23, 2014 at 8:03 pm

    @KG: @burnspbesq:

    The problem is you can chill the ice even if it is 75 or so as long as the sun is not on the ice. It really takes a couple of weeks to get the surface in good playing condition. Ideally you should play a few games on it with kids or seniors as they are not has hard on the ice

  117. 117.

    Schlemizel

    January 23, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    @BruceFromOhio:

    I only hit you because I love you!

    Its all about love

  118. 118.

    rikyrah

    January 23, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    Dinesh D’Souza indicted for violating U.S. election law
    By Jonathan Stempel
    NEW YORK Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:04pm EST

    (Reuters) – Dinesh D’Souza, a conservative commentator and best-selling author, has been indicted by a federal grand jury for arranging excessive campaign contributions to a candidate for the U.S. Senate.

    According to an indictment made public on Thursday in federal court in Manhattan, D’Souza around August 2012 reimbursed people who he had directed to contribute $20,000 to the candidate’s campaign. The candidate was not named in the indictment.

    Attempts to reach D’Souza and a lawyer representing him were unsuccessful.

    D’Souza was charged in the indictment with one count of making illegal
    contributions in the names of others, and one count of causing false
    statements to be made.

    Federal law in 2012 limited primary and general election campaign contributions to $2,500 each, for a total of $5,000, from any individual to any one candidate.

    “As we have long said, this Office and the FBI take a zero tolerance approach to corruption of the electoral process,” the U.S. Attorney for Manhattan, Preet Bharara, said in a statement released by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Bharara is an Obama appointee.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/23/us-usa-politics-dsouza-idUSBREA0M22W20140123

  119. 119.

    Jim Foolish Literalist

    January 23, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    @Kay: their governor is a yeoman farmer toiling away in the laboratory of the states.
    Which isn’t a bad approach, actually :)

    Unless your yeoman spent a couple of years drawing a paycheck from Lehmann Bros, right up to the collapse. I don’t for a moment think he’s responsible or even connected, it looks like he was a pretty part-time employee, but a good campaign consultant, I think especially a Republican one, could make a pretty good ad out of that. I remember Joan Walsh debating Kasich on Hardball and she brought up his Wall St work in response to his attempts to play the earnest incorruptible Heartlander. He didn’t like it at all, and Tweety couldn’t shout her down fast enough. Kasich is his last Republican man-crush now that Christie’s gone down.

    I remember when Kasich was the original Paul Ryan, the earnest, boyish, wonky deficit hawk. I’m sure he’ll use all the weaselly Luztian language when/if he runs.

  120. 120.

    Kay

    January 23, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    @Jim Foolish Literalist:

    Kasich v Clinton would be a horrible race because we will have to re-enact Bill Clinton’s whole era, in some tedious dual-track recovered memory syndrome type deal where Kasich will be bragging about his time as a fiscal conservative in the GOP Congress and Hillary will be pretending she opposed NAFTA and talking about SCHIP.

    I don’t know if I can take that. At this JUNCTURE :)

    I cannot re-litigate that period, as Obama might say. I barely stood litigating it the first time.

  121. 121.

    The Other Chuck

    January 23, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    @ThresherK: I love the enameled dutch oven, best thing on earth for braising. As for my big skillet pan, I just switched to stainless clad aluminum, namely Demeyere. I don’t recall which line, but it was priced pretty similar to all-clad with a much comfier handle. It’s big and roomy and holds and spreads heat awesomely well, but it has a hope of cooling down on time when I do remove it from the heat.

  122. 122.

    Citizen Alan

    January 23, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    Do not mock The Huckaby. I fear The Huckaby more than any other Republican active today. He is as reactionary and conservative as any other GOP politician, but he can still get away with pretending to be a moderate simply because he’s soft-spoken and talks in the dulcet tones of a seminarian. He was the first person I ever saw talk rings around Jon Stewart in an interview. I remain convinced that the most dangerous thing about Sarah Palin and Michele Bachman is that they make The Huckaby seem reasonable in comparison.

  123. 123.

    Kay

    January 23, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    @Jim Foolish Literalist:

    It was weird, though, because that’s what Strickland did against Kasich. Wall Street!

    It just failed miserably.

    The conventional wisdom here is Strickland blew it because he was complacent, he waited too long to campaign, but I don’t know. Media people really had it in for Strickland. I think they actually took him down. They swooned over Kasich, in this sad, pathetic sort of way where he was this big success who had returned “home” and was doing us all a big favor by even dropping by so we all had to kiss his ass. It was appalling to watch. They were like…needy, hoping he thought we were worthy. Just a horrible scene.

  124. 124.

    Mnemosyne

    January 23, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    @Citizen Alan:

    Huckabee has two major skeletons in his closet that even our lapdog media can’t overlook: Wayne Dumond and, more crucially, Maurice Clemmons. Even conservative voters are not going to be able to ignore four (4) murdered police officers.

    Add in all of his other deficits and he goes nowhere.

  125. 125.

    drkrick

    January 23, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    @Botsplainer: Torturing a dog isn’t as good as torturing a poor person, but it will probably be good enough for most of the GOP primary voters.

    But boy were they asking the stripes to do a LOT of work in that picture.

  126. 126.

    Geeno

    January 23, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    @LanceThruster: Between that comment and your nym – you owe me a keyboard.

  127. 127.

    BruceFromOhio

    January 23, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    @LanceThruster:

    Santorum – When your love is unconditional!

    There’s your bumper sticker, people.

  128. 128.

    mclaren

    January 23, 2014 at 11:21 pm

    If by “Republican challenger” you mean “disastrous failed candidate whose campaign doesn’t even get enough signatures to get on the ballot,” then, yes.

  129. 129.

    Cervantes

    January 24, 2014 at 12:05 pm

    @Kay: His father was a mail-man. Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stayed him from the swift completion of his appointed rounds.

    What did Strickland’s father ever do for you?

  130. 130.

    johnny aquitard

    January 24, 2014 at 1:37 pm

    @The Other Chuck: Use a small square of chain mail and hot water to scour the pan. (and no soap, of course)

    Amazon and others sell pieces of maille made with stainless links for that exact purpose. Bought one and it works unbelievably well, better than any thing else, including salt.

    The maille doesn’t scour the seasoning off. Not unless you have mistaken ‘seasoning’ for a blackened crust of dried food bits.

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