Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Pessimism assures that nothing of any importance will change.

You cannot shame the shameless.

Compromise? There is no middle ground between a firefighter and an arsonist.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

Second rate reporter says what?

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. keep building.

So it was an October Surprise A Day, like an Advent calendar but for crime.

The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.

The rest of the comments were smacking Boebert like she was a piñata.

People are complicated. Love is not.

Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

if you can’t see it, then you are useless in the fight to stop it.

When your entire life is steeped in white supremacy, equality feels like discrimination.

Please don’t feed the bears.

He imagines himself as The Big Bad, Who Is Universally Feared… instead of The Big Jagoff, Who Is Universally Mocked.

Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

They are lying in pursuit of an agenda.

I’m starting to think Jesus may have made a mistake saving people with no questions asked.

The most dangerous place for a black man in America is in a white man’s imagination.

If ‘weird’ was the finish line, they ran through the tape and kept running.

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

Never forget that he train is barreling down on Trump, even as he dances on the tracks.

Relentless negativity is not a sign that you are more realistic.

You know it’s bad when the Project 2025 people have to create training videos on “How To Be Normal”.

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Late Night TV Open Thread: “Game of Thrones: Foreshadowing”

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A palate sweetener for the Blogmaster. Just in case anyone’s missed it, via NYMag and Grantland. Season Four coming to HBO April 6, I believe. Since I haven’t read the books or watched the earlier three seasons yet, can’t tell you how spoilerific it might be, but surely HBO is professional enough to avoid the obvious pitfalls…

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    Anne Laurie

    @John Cole: Didn’t want you to fall asleep & miss it entirely!

    It should cheer you up, somewhat. There’s lots of blood and jokes about violence…

  3. 3.

    Mj_Oregon

    Watched this last night and am looking forward to the clean-up following the Red Wedding. Season 4 has lots of potential!

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    Betty Cracker

    I’m at the ER with my mom, waiting for her to be re-admitted. I’m pretty much hating every fucking thing right now.

    We had some interesting co-care-waitees, though. There was a toddler who’d been bitten in the face by a dog, a woman who’d been thrown from a horse and trampled and a drunk 20-something woman who was brought in by a cop and handcuffed to a gurney. Not sure what she did.

  5. 5.

    Mart

    I skeptically bought the first edition of the first Thrones book for 25 cents in the throw away pile at the library (paperbacks were a dime). It was about 1,000 pages for 25 cents, so I thought, great return on investment. On the downside, it said it was “Fantasy”. I quit reading Fantasy when a could not get more than 100 pages into the Hobbit/Lord of the Rings books. I gambled my 25 cents and bought it. Blew me away. Shared with neighbor lady and she flipped out. We were both buying sharing the other books in the series. There are issues with author GRRM’s frequency of published books, but you need to ignore this and jump on in.

    One funny thing, the internet says the 25 cent first edition library book worth a pretty good pile of money.

  7. 7.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Betty Cracker:

    and a drunk 20-something woman who was brought in by a cop and handcuffed to a gurney. Not sure what she did.

    Was she attractive and, if so, could you get her phone number for me?

    Seriously though, my sympathies for your situation.

  9. 9.

    Anne Laurie

    @Betty Cracker:

    I’m at the ER with my mom, waiting for her to be re-admitted. I’m pretty much hating every fucking thing right now.

    Can’t blame you for that. Your mom’s lucky to have you with her, though!

  14. 14.

    Calming Influence

    Must. Not. Watch. Trailer. We really like the show but are a season behind because we don’t subscribe to HBO. I was reading the books but stopped after #4 because they’re Fing massive and it started to feel like a full time job. Hope the new season (for us, last season for the rest of you) is as good as the rest.

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    Chris T.

    Since this is an open thread … regarding the talk about cars earlier, and the Fisker Karma that I like more than the Tesla Model S. Some of you may have seen the news article about Carlos Santana crashing his Karma near Las Vegas (he fell asleep while driving—perhaps it’s too comfortable…).

    Well, rumor has it that he liked it so much, he’s bought two to replace it!

  18. 18.

    max

    @Betty Cracker: I’m at the ER with my mom, waiting for her to be re-admitted. I’m pretty much hating every fucking thing right now.

    Yes. That is the suck. Pullin’ for mom.

    @Betty Cracker: a drunk 20-something woman who was brought in by a cop and handcuffed to a gurney. Not sure what she did.

    DUI something. Probably sick because of the fun drugs.

    max
    [‘More a teaser than a trailer.’]

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    Schlemizel

    @Betty Cracker:

    Sounds like a typical ER in FL, particularly the dog bite. On our side of America’s dick the paper reported at least one serious dog attack a week. Usually it was a kid but often it was an adult who just happened to be biking by.

    Hoping your sty is brief, your mom gets the help she needs quickly and gets better even faster. Good luck.

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    BruceFromOhio

    …surely HBO is professional enough to avoid the obvious pitfalls…

    HBO is trapped in orbit around Martin’s World, little choice there. Pity the lot waiting for the punishment to stop, the author clearly hates his audience, his characters, his story, for why else does he taunt all comers?

    The local library has listed a number of his non-Throne titles under the science fiction category, and though the temptation is strong, it reeks of further madness.

    @Betty Cracker: May Gaia bless you with perseverance, patience, and forgiveness. Would that every mother had the good fortune of a caring, doting daughter. I keep you both in a positive light.

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    WereBear

    Supposedly, Game of Thrones was born out of GRRM’s frustration with the Things You Can’t Do On Television when he was working on Beauty and the Beast.

    At least we’ve been saved from the carnage that would have followed had he worked on Little House on the Prairie.

  24. 24.

    Ash Can

    @Betty Cracker: Damn. I hope all goes well.

    @Baud: Again, damn. She was a cute kid who grew up to be a great lady. Yes, she was on Nixon’s side, but if every Republican today was like her the world would be a much better place.

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    JPL

    Wahoo, the first weather system is rain but tonight it is suppose to turn to freezing rain. Power outages are likely but the mutt and I are prepared.

    @Betty Cracker: As others have stated, please take care.

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    PsiFighter37

    Can’t wait. That said, I don’t read the books and I know he’s been slowpoking it…the series has almost caught up to him.

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    OzarkHillbilly

    @JPL: Was thinking about you. You guys are gonna get it hard with the freezing rain for the next day or 2. My money is on lots of electrical outages. I would just stay home, but then, I am a pvssy.

  34. 34.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @raven: Should… as long as your electricity comes from it. We’re 2nd from last on the transmission lines in a sparsely populated area. Last thing I did the first winter here was buy a generator. Should of been the first thing I did,

  36. 36.

    Aimai

    @Betty Cracker: I feel for you. E.R’s are the worst. I’ll be thinking about you both all day. My love go your husband, too. I know he’s going through his own stuff right now with his father. Makes you wish for sister-wives to hold the fort and take care of you while you do your part.

  40. 40.

    OmerosPeanut

    Nonspoiler spoiler: Somebody dies. Somebody is betrayed. Somebody has sex while they or another character gives a monologue.

  46. 46.

    Sherparick

    Digby had this story on her blog about Conservative right’s reaction to the marijuana legalization movement.

    http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2014/02/good-thing-they-started-making-hostess.html

    And I looked this up:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Sembler

    A couple of comments:

    1. Like so much of the so called Conservative Movement, it has quickly moved through Eric Hoffer”s three stages of “mass movements.” First, it starts as a cause, then becomes a business, and ends up a racket.

    2. I think the mass incarceration of the Black and Browns and White working class through the drug laws is a “feature” not a “bug.” It is a way of social control and creating a large class of “untouchables” who are limited in their employment and education options and who are easily stigmatized.

  48. 48.

    Morzer

    @Sherparick:

    No-one who sees that poster is going to overestimate the collective intelligence of the Drug Free American Foundation anytime soon. Heckuva job, Betty Sembler!

  53. 53.

    Citizen_X

    @Sherparick: Re: that poster, how the hell is that prediction a “fact?” (Indeed, one might ask, “What are they smoking?”)

    Somebody’s junior high science teacher needs to grab them by the arm and explain the whole “data” and “interpretation” thing again.

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    feebog

    I have read all the books, gobbling them down as soon as they were released. But PSI is right, HBO has a problem in that GRRM is maddeningly slow in getting the sixth book out and the series is now into the fourth book. Incidentally, I did not care much for the fourth book. It was partially left over chapters from book three and a mishmash of chapters that did little to advance the (many) story lines. Loved Book five however, and HBO could easily take three seasons to cover both four and five.

  62. 62.

    Bart

    @Mart:

    One funny thing, the internet says the 25 cent first edition library book worth a pretty good pile of money.

    I doubt that very much. The real first edition (the one that is valuable) had a very small run; your library copy will undoubtedly be a later and cheaper reprint.

    @feebog:

    But PSI is right, HBO has a problem in that GRRM is maddeningly slow in getting the sixth book out and the series is now into the fourth book.

    GRRM will reportedly reveal the endgame to the producers of the TV show if they’re outpacing him.

    Incidentally, I did not care much for the fourth book. It was partially left over chapters from book three and a mishmash of chapters that did little to advance the (many) story lines.

    No, it wasn’t. Sure, there were leftovers from the previous book, but its biggest problem was that while writing it GRRM discovered he had a problem: he wanted to do a time jump, but that caused some logistical issues. And when he started again he noticed the book was going to be massive, so he split it — except he did not split it in time, but he grouped the chapters for a bunch of characters (most of them not fan favorites) into book four and put the remaining ones (which happen at the same time as the ones in book four) in book five. Also, he fired the person who edited the first three books and it kinda shows.

  63. 63.

    Xantar

    @feebog:

    Actually, I believe this current season is covering the second half of the third book.

    On the other hand, Season 5 will cover Books 4 and 5 together. That’s going to be the drop dead point for GRRM.

    You know who needs to get their act together and release the next installment? Valve Software. You know what I’m talking about.

  65. 65.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I enjoy the show, especially Peter Dinklage, Charles Dance and Diana Rigg, but I have trouble keeping track of who all the supporting players are. I’d say about 60% of the cast are virtually interchangeable middle aged bearded Englishmen.

  67. 67.

    PJ

    @Paul in KY: Season 4 is the last third of the third book, plus stuff from books 4 and 5 (you can see some of those scenes from the later books in the preview.) My guess is that season 5 will have most of the rest of books 4 and 5 (there’s a lot of extraneous material in those volumes that will not make gripping TV – or reading – drama) plus one of the beginning events of book 6, since neither book 4 or 5 contains the spectacular conclusions to which they are leading up.

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    Mart

    @Bart: Embossed lettering on shiny silver slip cover, 9.5 inches tall, price $21.95, 1996, black book cover w/ silver lettering – also embossed, BVG 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1. It all lines up. Book is in really good shape, slip cover a bit wrinkled. I have check several internet tube references, and it always matches up perfectly.

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