“This isn’t about some aging rockstar way past his prime that simply needs to go away,” Davis said during her remarks at the Texas Democratic Women Convention in Austin. “This is about Greg Abbott. It’s about his character, his judgment, his values when he stands on a stage next to someone like that and refers to him as his ‘blood brother.’”
Feel free to discuss whether this is about some aging rockstar, or something else entirely.
Marc
Good for her. When your opponent is sinking, throw him an anvil.
gbear
It’s always about the aging rock star. Just ask Christie.
Baud
Such incivility. Tsk, tsk. /Village
TR
Wait, a Democrat who knows how to campaign? How can this be?
Baud
@gbear:
Speaking of (Newsmax):
I missed this story on Karnacki this morning. Anyone want to go sewer diving and tell us what this is about?
Commenting at Balloon Juice since 1937
Its about someone who brags about defecating in their pants and preying upon underage girls.
Cassidy
@TR: She’s not pure, though.
Anya
@TR: The best part is, you know Nugent has no self control so he’s going to say something really offensive about Wendy Davis. Then it’s another Nugent related controversy the Abbott campaign has to address.
Kay
@Commenting at Balloon Juice since 1937:
She goes to the underage girls thing later in the speech.
Democratic women candidates speaking at “Democratic women” events in Ohio are always a little more freewheeling than the general theme. I don’t know why that is, but it’s true.
Must be the same in Texas.
Anya
@Baud: I am more interested in the healing bible verse.
GRANDPA john
So the character honesty. and integrity of the candidate and his associates are not issues in the race? only if you are a repub
Baud
@Kay:
Must be all the testosterone.
Wait…
Mustang Bobby
I presume that only in Texas could you be in favor of open carry and still be “restricting the 2nd Amendment.”
Corner Stone
But was she in the trailer park long enough?
I say no.
Amir Khalid
His musical has-beenness aside, Ted Nugent is known for abject cowardice in the face of military service, having his way with underage girls, and less-than-gentlemanly manners in public. And I doubt he could articulate the Republican policy agenda on anything. Is it really a winning proposition for Greg Abbott to campaign with him who is called the Yosemite Sam of rock?
Corner Stone
@Mustang Bobby: Crazy as it sounds to everyone, there is one line in Texas you simply can’t cross. No matter what party you belong to.
Baud
@Anya:
Google “Republican Alternative to Obamacare.”
Higgs Boson's Mate
Nugent should have “Poor Impulse Control” tattooed across his forehead.
Baud
@Corner Stone:
When’s the election? Maybe she can move into a trailer park now to make up the extra credit hours she needs.
Honus
Wendy Davis hit it perfectly. It’s about Abbot calling Nugent his “Blood Brother” (and Cruz refusing to repudiate Nugent). Make the republicans own Nugent. And Limbaugh, and all their ilk.
Corner Stone
@Baud: It’s too late. She has an education now. She’s dead to us.
Cacti
At 65, I’d call Ted aged not aging.
Not to mention, when was the last decade that he could credibly be called a rock star?
PurpleGirl
@Baud: No Newsmax diving but some Googling… The official NJ governor’s mansion is called Drumthwacket, it’s outside Princeton. There is a charitable foundation that pays for it’s upkeep and maintenance, and also paid for restoration of the building. Christie and his wife are president and vice president of the Foundation. The CEO of Prudential Ins. and his wife are chairman and vice chairman of the Foundation. The major role all these people play is in fundraising.
There are different stories going round of donors getting political favors when they made significant contributions to the Foundation. And example is Trump making contributions of some $25,000 over several years and getting permission to build a private, family cemetery in NJ.
ETA: Christie and family do not live there but it is used for official functions; they have used it every few days since he was elected.
Kay
@Baud:
You have to go to one. I can’t explain it- laughing, ridicule, a lot of milling around and refusing to clear the aisles. It’s different. She’d be perfect in that room.
Corner Stone
@Baud: I just hope people keep telling us all how she really wasn’t divorced until she was 21, only lived in a trailer for some number of months, and then earned higher education while her partner handled other family matters.
Kay
@Corner Stone:
“He raised her children” While she was sitting in the bar?
It just grates on me.
Corner Stone
Oh, and James Moore and Wayne Slater are perfect illustrations of the Old Boy Texas Democratic Party.
Just shut your pie hole, fools.
Baud
@PurpleGirl:
Thanks. Too many things to keep track of with that guy.
@Kay:
I’ll try to attend one. I’ll have to watch some old episodes of Bosom Buddies first to learn how to blend in.
Baud
@Corner Stone:
I can’t say I think she’ll win, but maybe Abbot will say something stupid about “legitimate rape” (or the Texas equivalent since …. well…. you know).
Thor Heyerdahl
@Amir Khalid:
That’s so unfair to Yosemite Sam to be compared to a shitting Republican.
WaterGirl
@Baud: I recommend Nuns on the Run, as well.
Anoniminous
@Kay:
Different styles. Women tend to be more comfortable in networks. Men tend to be more comfortable in hierarchies. Granted that’s a cliche. It also happens to be true(ish.)
Neither style is inherently “better” than the other.
PurpleGirl
@Baud: You’re welcome. That Newsmax title caught my attention and I wanted to find out information on the mansion. Gotta love the name Drumthwacket.
Corner Stone
@Kay: Wendy Davis has, possibly, the most tricky path to election of any candidate running for elected office this term.
I’m not on board with some things, but have committed lots of time and money so far. That’s just the way it is right now with Democrats running in TX.
It should piss you off. It pisses me off. I hope it sticks in the craw of all women in TX.
AdamK
They should change the name of this blog to Kay Juice.
PurpleGirl
@efgoldman: I didn’t see any reference to that, but the stories hinge around stuff like corporations getting permission to do things like move into newer office buildings, or, like Trump, getting permission to build his own cemetery.
Baud
@Corner Stone:
I think it will, based on my read of Texas women, which is based entirely on three episodes of the show Killer Women.
Kay
@Corner Stone:
I just really like her. I understand that she’s a long shot. I like how she handled that controversy. I’m tired of women apologizing. People lead complicated lives. We all do, but women are the only ones called to explain everything. I’m sick of that.
Violet
Posted this in a previous Ted Nugent thread, but in case anyone missed it:
Ted Nugent wasn’t just acceptable in 2012, his endorsement was “cool”.
Baud
@AdamK:
Kay’s my favorite blogger, but that title is … um….no.
Corner Stone
@Kay: Well, my son and I both have Team Wendy T-shirts, plus a few fridge magnets in addition to outright donations. Field work has been a little tougher to this point in wingnutville. All the people I worked with for the Bill White campaign are really slow rolling this effort. I’m hoping Abbott sticks his joint in the mashed taters and we can pry some resources loose.
She seems pretty brave.
WaterGirl
@Baud: It took you 3 episodes to figure out how bad that show was? It only took me one*.
*But I continued to watch anyway, even knowing it was sure to be cancelled, because I like three of the male actors in the show.
RSA
@Cacti:
The last time one of his singles was in the top 40? That was 37 years ago, in 1977. Coincidentally, the median age in the U.S, per Wikipedia, is 36.8.
ruemara
@Kay: Women. Having more balls when it counts, simply because you have to to get ahead, since… forever.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
When Balloon Juice is slow, bad things happen.
ruemara
@WaterGirl: Aww, I really liked that show. I’m a sucker for the leads.
Corner Stone
@Baud:
Don’t get body slammed by a lowland gorilla.
WaterGirl
@Baud: So true.
What was with that thread the other night about Matt Tabbi? It didn’t seem to matter how many people explained that First Look Media was not the same as the new place Ezra is putting together, people just kept on discussing things like they were one and the same.
Were people just
punchingpunking one another?Edit: autocorrect turned punking into punching.
Mike in NC
Drumthwacket sounds like something out of a Harry Potter book.
NotMax
@PurpleGirl>/a>
Yes, New Jersey found its own capital, Trenton, too crappy to put the governor’s mansion there.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
Given my experience here, I’m going to say “yes.”
Seriously, that was weird. I don’t follow our punditocracy as much as others, so it was all very confusing.
ETA: I like “punching” better.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: The original Pyewacket was one of the familiars of an English witch detected by Matthew Hopkins. He/she/it was an imp not a cat.
WaterGirl
@Baud: That weird thread sent me googling to figure out what was what. First Look Media looks like a really interesting concept to me, and I think Ezra kind of missed the boat by going the direction he did.
But I’ve gotten kind of turned off by Ezra, so I’m not losing any sleep over it. I wonder if he might be, though.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: I always thought that the name was a great touch in the movie. Also too, Novak was sexier as a witch than as mortal.
Don K
@efgoldman:
Wouldn’t that be the Woodrow Wilson bedroom, since he was actually governor of NJ (Cleveland was born there, but moved to NY for his elective career)?
dmsilev
@Violet: Yes, but to be fair, anything that a Mittlet refers to as ‘cool’ has to be graded on a curve.
PurpleGirl
@NotMax: Drumthwacket is taken from two Scottish Gaelic words meaning “wooded hill”. It is in Princeton, it was built in 1835 on land that was the site of the 1777 battle of Princeton. It was sold to the State in 1966 but the restoration was on hold until years later when they could raise the money needed.
http://www.drumthwacket.org/history.html
John Revolta
@Mike in NC:
They were going to go with “Pluckenlyre” but it somehow didn’t make the cut.
NotMax
@PurpleGirl
Been there. Princeton is lovely. Trenton, on the other hand, looks like every Hollywood-inspired urban dystopia rolled into one.
There’s a reason that NJ is the only state (of those which have a governor’s mansion) that doesn’t site it in its capital.
Omnes Omnibus
@NotMax: Ohio’s is in a Columbus suburb.
NotMax
@Omes omnibus
I stand (well, type) corrected. Same for Wisconsin and Tennessee, apparently. Trenton is still a pit.
Vermont (bless ’em) sold off the governor’s mansion back in mid-last century.
Omnes Omnibus
@Omnes Omnibus: Wisconsin’s is in the Village of Maple Bluff – virtually Madison, but not quite.
JoyfulA
@Omnes Omnibus: Pennsylvania’s governor’s mansion was in Fort Indiantown Gap, in a whole different county from Harrisburg. After some decades of various governors’ complaints of how far away they lived from the office and how bad the commute was, etc., a new one was built not far from the Capitol.
In the flood zone. So the first governor who lived in it had to evacuate it for a couple of weeks when a hundred-year flood hit.
Anne Laurie
@Omnes Omnibus:
I remember reading that ‘Pyewacket’ was also a slang term for the female genitalia — along the ever-popular folksong trope of going to the heather. Male hysteria about what women might be, um, getting up to when not strictly supervised was of course a large part of that Witchfinders craze…
PurpleGirl
@NotMax: Back when I worked as a paralegal I spent several weeks going to insurance rate hearings at an office outside Princeton. Most of the time I stayed at a hotel at an office park. Yes, the Princeton area is beautiful.
Smiling Mortician
@Corner Stone: I have laughed each time that one’s come up throughout my sporadic Olympics viewing.
Heliopause
All rock stars are aging except the dead ones. Arguably, even them.
Cervantes
@Kay:
And how:
Cervantes
@Anne Laurie:
Do you recall where?
Cervantes
@Higgs Boson’s Mate: And elsewhere.
Cervantes
@Amir Khalid:
And neither can John Boehner — so there’s that.
Cervantes
@Baud: That was excellent. My hat is off.
Anne Laurie
@Cervantes: I can tell you it was at least 40 years ago, but if I could track it any more closely I’d have included the attribution!
Cervantes
@Anne Laurie: Thanks regardless.
PIGL
@Higgs Boson’s Mate: and then he should run into and threaten Hiro Protagonist.
Citizen Alan
@Omnes Omnibus:
The ending of Bell, Book & Candle always saddened me. This powerful sexual woman, broken by love, abandoned by her familiar, and forced to wear shoes. I bet Jimmy Stewart made her sell the store and stay at home to bake cookies and raise kids.
Mnemosyne
@Citizen Alan:
I saw a really funny cartoon by a (lesbian) cartoonist where Gil uses her magic powers to turn Shep into a woman and they live happily ever after as witches together.
Personally, I prefer I Married A Witch, which doesn’t require anyone to give up their powers for love.
BobS
@Violet: Tagg Romney obviously doesn’t know shit about music. You could fill a radio station playlist 24/7 with truly great Detroit music without giving a second thought to Ted Nugent (okay, probably makes the list with a single song, Journey to the Center of the Mind as a member of the Amboy Dukes) or Kid Rock (just a fucking caricature of a rock star). Along with New Orleans, Memphis, and very few others, Detroit has been one of the premier cities of American music for decades- McKinney’s Cotton Pickers & Don Redman, John Lee Hooker, Jack Scott, the Jones brothers, Smokey Robinson, the Four Tops, the MC5, the Stooges, Marvin Gaye, Aretha Franklin, George Clinton, James Carter, Stevie Wonder, the White Stripes, Eminem, and a legion of others. Calling Ted Nugent and Kid Rock “great Detroit musicians” is a slight to all of the immortals who actually deserve the tag.
GregB
Pud brothers, a pair of dicks if there ever was.
Ben
@BobS:
Not to mention Death
Fred
I used to like The Amboy Dukes back in the day but then I liked Iron Butterfly too. My only excuse is I was a kid.
Does Nugent buy those camouflage cowboy hats by the case? Seems like he’s been wearing the same damn one for near forty years. That kind of anal retentive smacks of pro wrestler costume more than musician chic. Guess it beats getting a job.