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Some Things Never Change

by John Cole|  April 5, 201412:35 am| 89 Comments

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Shawn and I were going through the old photos, and we found this gem:

theloveboat

That’s me and Shawn on the Cunard Princess (or Princess 2, I can’t remember, it was 23 years ago), which during the first Gulf War was docked in Bahrain and used as an R&R destination for soldiers for a while during the conflict. Shawn and I scored a three day pass and were helicoptered there and spent a couple drunken nights and days. When we got there, we had to buy civilian clothing from the ship store because all we had were our BDU’s (and we both felt naked without our LBE and personal weapons- it was like a running joke that we would make the other one drink when someone accidentally reached to check on their firearm- “DRINK MOTHERFUCKER, I SAW THAT!” Fucking sensitive items checks will make you nuts.) and wore the same outfits for three days. We just washed them in the sink every night and then ironed them in our little galley.

We would take a shuttle to this little outdoor pool that had a bar inside the pool, and spent the whole couple of days hanging out with a couple CWO chopper pilots and Navy officer flyboys. It was heaven, even though Bahrain has like 200% humidity.

On the helicopter flight back home, we all puked repeatedly, and when we landed in Kuwait City, Shawn and I had to go to the med tent and get multiple IV’s because we were so dehydrated and it was like 0% humidity in Kuwait.

Good times. I would do anything to be 21 and doing it again. At times it sucked hard, but god damned these were some of the best times of my life. I was just so lucky I was in when I was in, and I didn’t have to go through what guys have been going through since 2003.

And yes, I was drinking scotch.

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  1. 1.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 12:39 am

    sweet.

    I have serious questions to ask, but you don’t like me. can I ask them anyway?

  2. 2.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 12:41 am

    Ironed? While on a three day pass?

    Being 21 again, no. Thirty? Maybe.

  3. 3.

    John Cole

    April 5, 2014 at 12:41 am

    It’s not that I dislike you. I dislike being riddled. Try one comment at a time and gauge the reaction.

  4. 4.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 12:43 am

    and incidentally, will you ever stop monitoring me?

  5. 5.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 12:44 am

    @John Cole:

    okay, do you think that this blog, and most blogs, suffer from groupthink?

  6. 6.

    Amir Khalid

    April 5, 2014 at 12:45 am

    @Little Boots:
    No. So say all of us.

  7. 7.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 12:47 am

    @Amir Khalid: Gabba gabba, we accept you, we accept you, one of us.

  8. 8.

    Violet

    April 5, 2014 at 12:47 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Was going to say the same thing. Ironed? You are your father’s son.

  9. 9.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 12:50 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    least somebody has a sense of humor.

    but I do seriously wonder about this stuff.

    we do not need our own bubble.

  10. 10.

    Mnemosyne

    April 5, 2014 at 12:50 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    It’s funny, I always hear it in that scene as “gooble gobble,” but it’s pretty common for people on the East Coast to say they hear “gabba gabba.” I don’t get it.

  11. 11.

    Mnemosyne

    April 5, 2014 at 12:51 am

    What the heck am I in moderation for? Has FYWP decided that hyperlinks are one to a customer again?

  12. 12.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 12:51 am

    @Violet: Now, I will admit that I got very good at ironing while I was in the army, but, almost on principle, I did not iron any civilian clothes ever.

  13. 13.

    Violet

    April 5, 2014 at 12:54 am

    @Mnemosyne: Is there a restricted word in your link?

  14. 14.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 12:55 am

    omnes, chime in any time. people actually listen to you, even though I’m always right, and you, well, sometimes.

  15. 15.

    ? Martin

    April 5, 2014 at 12:55 am

    And now we have Formula 1 races in Bahrain while people protest the Saudi puppet government.

    Shawn’s got a pretty cool friend. I like him.

  16. 16.

    Violet

    April 5, 2014 at 12:56 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Yeah, that’s the thing. Guys on a three-day bender in a climate like a sauna and they iron their clothes? That’s odd.

  17. 17.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 1:01 am

    @Violet: The dude mops while naked. I am not sure that ordinary behavioral rules come into play. OTOH, I guy I knew in OCS ironed his underwear and tucked his t-shirt into his boxers. He was an MP.

    ETA: He was also married to a German woman who he later divorced for sleeping with just about everyone. (Not me though.)

  18. 18.

    ? Martin

    April 5, 2014 at 1:02 am

    @Violet:

    Guys on a three-day bender in a climate like a sauna and they iron their clothes? That’s odd.

    Depends. Were there any girls around? If so, I’d have ironed my clothes as well.

  19. 19.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 1:02 am

    I think I might have an answer, but John, you didn’t. what do you think?

  20. 20.

    Mnemosyne

    April 5, 2014 at 1:03 am

    @Violet:

    It’s a YouTube link. That sometimes makes FWYP choke.

  21. 21.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 1:05 am

    @? Martin: If there were, they would have been female soldiers on a weekend pass as well. Ironing wouldn’t have made much of a difference.

  22. 22.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 1:08 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I dunno, maybe I’m just in a mood, but I think we need to think about our own bubble. but maybe we don’t.

  23. 23.

    ? Martin

    April 5, 2014 at 1:09 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Sure it would. Guys would outnumber the girls 10:1. The girls would have their pick. An iron might make all the difference.

  24. 24.

    Mnemosyne

    April 5, 2014 at 1:11 am

    The thing you need to know about this series of tweets is that Dolores and Harry are both characters made up by Franklin Habit.

  25. 25.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 1:12 am

    @Little Boots: People do have lives outside of this place. They read other things. They talk to other people. Hell, I was reading the Green Bay Press Gazette earlier; the Packers re-signed John Kuhn for another year.

  26. 26.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 1:13 am

    @? Martin: Early 90s. Grunge. Irons bad. Just saying.

  27. 27.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 1:14 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    the who signed the what?

    yes, I know, but sometimes I get obsessive.

    so I’m totally right about the bubble, right?

  28. 28.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 1:15 am

    @Little Boots:

    so I’m totally right about the bubble, right?

    It probably depends on the person.

  29. 29.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 1:17 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    it probably does.

    but just say I’m right. it’s always the best bet.

  30. 30.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 1:19 am

    @Little Boots:

    but just say I’m right. it’s always the best bet.

    Na Ga Na Hap Pen.

  31. 31.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 1:19 am

    no music?

  32. 32.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 1:20 am

    @Little Boots: I already posted some. Step off.

  33. 33.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 1:21 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    stubborn.

    oh, post something awesome.

  34. 34.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    April 5, 2014 at 1:22 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: What do you mean about reading other things besides Balloon Juice? What are you, some kinda of Commie?

  35. 35.

    ? Martin

    April 5, 2014 at 1:23 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Hey, Cole and I are the same age. While he was having that photo taken, I was finishing up college. A friend of mine from Austria hooked up with the hottest girls. At first I blamed his accent, but he told me he always dressed better than everyone else and that I should try it. So I did. And it worked. It worked really, really well, in fact. And that was 1991.

  36. 36.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 1:23 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Not enough news about the Packer free agency around these parts.

  37. 37.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 1:24 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    he has gone a-whoring after strange blogs.

  38. 38.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 1:25 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    would you post a good song, now?

  39. 39.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    April 5, 2014 at 1:26 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Packer? Wuts that?

  40. 40.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 1:27 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    see. everyone loves you. so tell them I’m right. problem solved.

  41. 41.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 1:29 am

    @? Martin: A few years older than you, but I was running around Europe in my unpressed clothes – it worked for me. I dressed well. I just didn’t iron every-fucking-thing. To be fair, I was and am a fan of Brooks Brothers no iron 100% cotton shirts.

  42. 42.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    April 5, 2014 at 1:29 am

    @Little Boots: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C53QAuOoSgc

  43. 43.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 1:30 am

    @Little Boots: The slut thread is below.

  44. 44.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 1:31 am

    @Little Boots: Here.

  45. 45.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 1:32 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    oh, omnes, so rude.

  46. 46.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 1:33 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    well, finally.

  47. 47.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 1:35 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA: @Omnes Omnibus:

    well, finally.

    see, that is beautiful.

  48. 48.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 1:38 am

    so, monkees. I want to do monkees:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfuBREMXxts

  49. 49.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    April 5, 2014 at 1:42 am

    @Little Boots: I see you Monkees and raise you another Badfinger!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kojWZ5USS3c

  50. 50.

    Steeplejack

    April 5, 2014 at 1:45 am

    Haven’t heard this in a long time, but Badfinger reminded me of it. (Not very similar, just same time frame.)

  51. 51.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 1:45 am

    FWIW I hate my cold. I can’t sleep because I cough when I lie down. I am croaking rather than talking. And any ride I try to take on my bike is painful because I can’t take a deep breath.

  52. 52.

    Mnemosyne

    April 5, 2014 at 1:47 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Do you have a neti pot? If it’s similar to the cold I had this winter, just getting all of the excess crap out of your sinuses will go a long way.

    Though I tried to talk one of my friends at work into using a neti pot for his clogged sinuses, and as soon as I said the words “water up your nose,” he was like, I’m out.

  53. 53.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 1:47 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    nice. really nice., you are awesome.

  54. 54.

    Steeplejack

    April 5, 2014 at 1:48 am

    Dwight Twilley, “I’m on Fire.”

  55. 55.

    Steeplejack

    April 5, 2014 at 1:48 am

    Argent, “Liar.”

  56. 56.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 1:48 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    uh, huh.

  57. 57.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    April 5, 2014 at 1:49 am

    @Little Boots: Neil Diamond wrote that song.

  58. 58.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 1:50 am

    @Little Boots: This was written by Mike Nesmith.

    @Mnemosyne: I refuse to waterboard myself.

  59. 59.

    Steeplejack

    April 5, 2014 at 1:51 am

    The Zombies, “Leave Me Be.”

  60. 60.

    Steeplejack

    April 5, 2014 at 1:52 am

    Sugarloaf, “Green-Eyed Lady.”

  61. 61.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 1:53 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    well,that is nice.

    and you know I just like to pick on you, right?

  62. 62.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    April 5, 2014 at 1:53 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: I’m sure some folks from the previous administration would be more than happy to accommodate you with waterboarding.

  63. 63.

    Anoniminous

    April 5, 2014 at 1:53 am

    Aaron Copland: Quiet City

    Rearranged for brass ensemble, Wynton Marsalis on trumpet.

  64. 64.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 1:55 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    damn, you are aawsome. you know you’re awesome, right?

  65. 65.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 1:56 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Quite so.

  66. 66.

    Steeplejack

    April 5, 2014 at 1:56 am

    Unit 4 + 2, “Concrete and Clay.”

  67. 67.

    muricafukyea

    April 5, 2014 at 1:57 am

    Hey Cole. I was thinking of heading down there for a visit since I have never been there. How about I just stay at your place for a few months. Oh also I would like to borrow your new Subaru. I tend to drive those things into fields btw but I know that is not a problem with you either.

    See ya soon.

  68. 68.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 1:59 am

    I love steeplejack, so much.

  69. 69.

    Steeplejack

    April 5, 2014 at 2:01 am

    Dion, “Abraham, Martin and John.” A good performance from the Smothers Brothers’ TV show.

    I’m slightly surprised there was not more notice taken of the anniversary Friday.

  70. 70.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    April 5, 2014 at 2:04 am

    In memory of George:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddz6GT8810w

  71. 71.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 2:05 am

    @Anoniminous: I couple years ago, I saw the youngest Marsalis (Jason?)brother sitting in on drums at Preservation Hall. The fascinating thing was that he wasn’t familar with a couple of the songs that the oldsters wanted to play; they talked to him – said “it’s a 6:8 with a knd of hard thing on the cymbals” The dude would go “Something like this?” The old dudes would say “Not quite more bass and lighter on the snare” And then he would just nail it. Talented family, with a shitload of knowledge.

  72. 72.

    Steeplejack

    April 5, 2014 at 2:06 am

    The Edwin Hawkins Singers, “Oh, Happy Day.”

  73. 73.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    April 5, 2014 at 2:06 am

    @Steeplejack: I remembered it when my wife told me about the vet appointment today. Also Rev Al did a segment at the end of his show.

  74. 74.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 2:06 am

    can everyone come upsatairs, especially omnes.

  75. 75.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 2:08 am

    @Steeplejack: My dad’s b-day. He turned 25 the day of the assassination.

  76. 76.

    Steeplejack

    April 5, 2014 at 2:08 am

    The Undisputed Truth, “Smiling Faces Sometimes.”

  77. 77.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    April 5, 2014 at 2:08 am

    @Little Boots: Now I’m hurt, Boots.

  78. 78.

    John PM

    April 5, 2014 at 2:12 am

    I know what you are saying. I just did a 20-year improv reunion show, then had 3 Macalan’s afterward. I would not wish to be 21 again, but there were definitely some good times. And yes, I am typing this very slowly

  79. 79.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 2:21 am

    As we have been doing late ’60s, there is this.

  80. 80.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 2:35 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    You and steeplejack are terrible people, and I love you both.

    I make bad choices,based on music.

    bastards!

  81. 81.

    Little Boots

    April 5, 2014 at 2:36 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    post bad music.

    I’ll come around.

  82. 82.

    NotMax

    April 5, 2014 at 3:18 am

    Hm. Drinking left-handed.

  83. 83.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 3:23 am

    @NotMax: On my rugby team, one always drank left handed. Shots were involved if one didn’t.

  84. 84.

    mai naem

    April 5, 2014 at 3:28 am

    I figured he was ironing his clothes because he was trying to dry it with the iron. I’ve done that with damp clothes when I’ve been totally desperate and short of time.

  85. 85.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 5, 2014 at 3:31 am

    @mai naem: I figure he wanted creases. I may be wrong. It has happened before.

  86. 86.

    Cermet

    April 5, 2014 at 9:16 am

    To be 21 again and in college; those were the days! At least I realized at the time they were some of the very best days of my life in so many ways! Also, how lucky I was not to have to worry about money, then (damn that was sooo fucking nice! I only wish most people had that luxury!)
    Things were finally clicking academically, socially and the world was good, then for the most part! Family and friends and good times just were a daily thing – no worries or real concerns.
    One can never go back but those are what make life good (at least if one has health and enough money both then and now – otherwise it sucks and I realize the importance of having and still those two!) While I nearly lost the former a few years ago and it is a daily fight to maintain it (luckily, my research has found work-a-rounds for all my illnesses – so far!); still, it is nice winning that battle (for now, at least – forget the fucking future; death meets us all sooner or later. So, enjoy today!)
    So today, the sun is out, its spring, some critical projects are moving forward (to hell if they fail; that is the future and who knows? Maybe some will fall into place!) and my daughter is doing well at MIT and I feel well. It is all good!
    I hope some of you out there who are struggling get better news and things start falling into place for you.

  87. 87.

    Cain

    April 5, 2014 at 10:43 am

    Bah, I’m not sure.. I didn’t really drink a lot in my 20s. Hell I drink more now than I did then. I just don’t get drunk. Secondly, I physically look better now than I did in my 20s. I also looked like I was in my teenage years for a lot of my 20s. Now I;’m in my mid 40s and I look like I’m in my late 30s.

    So I would like to continue being what I am right now. If I think hard, I think I might like to be in my late 30s again. But the 20s ? nah. I’m good.

    also, stop fucking reminiscing and live in the now. Your best years aren’t necessary behind you just because you are in your 40s. I think I’m one year older than you. If you live your life in a shell, dont’ go anywhere, hang out at home and so forth, things are going to feel a little closed in. You and Sean should go out, and adventure. You have some companionship now! (and some dog sluts too)

  88. 88.

    Fred Fnord

    April 5, 2014 at 10:58 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: That’s what session drummers do.

  89. 89.

    Mnemosyne

    April 5, 2014 at 11:30 am

    @Cain:

    I’m with you. In college, I was fat, clinically depressed, and barely hung on until graduation. I graduated in the middle of a recession and used my degree for a series of minimum-wage retail jobs. I didn’t really get things straightened out until I was almost 30.

    So, no, I’d really prefer not to go back to the “good ol’ days,” thankyewverymuchly.

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