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GoT Open Thread

by John Cole|  April 13, 20148:40 pm| 86 Comments

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There will be spoilers in the comments, so do not read them if you are on the west coast.

Shawn and I have spent all day yelling “Six hours and five minutes!”

“Four hours and twelve minutes!”

Etc.

We are now 20 mins out. Winter is coming.

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  1. 1.

    Keith G

    April 13, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    Green Balloons

  2. 2.

    jl

    April 13, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    How many dragons were killed and abused making that thing? And Cole calls hisself an animal lover. Should boycott it.

  3. 3.

    ulee

    April 13, 2014 at 8:47 pm

    Don Draper is not someone you want to fuck with.

  4. 4.

    gogol's wife

    April 13, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    Mr. Selfridge over here.

  5. 5.

    schrodinger's cat

    April 13, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    What is GoT, is it related to the GOP?

  6. 6.

    Joseph Nobles

    April 13, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    This is the GRRM-penned episode this season. So there’s that.

  7. 7.

    max

    April 13, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    Shawn and I have spent all day yelling “Six hours and five minutes!”

    OK, that’s a little silly.

    You should’ve been yelling, ‘Joffrey’s gonna get it!’

    max
    [‘Bing bong, the King is dead, wake up – sleepy head, rub your eyes, get out of bed, wake up, that fucking prick is dead!’]

  8. 8.

    Poopyman

    April 13, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    AnybodyEverybody dead yet?

  9. 9.

    schrodinger's cat

    April 13, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    I will be watching Cosmos. Hopefully more science/physics and less CGI.

  10. 10.

    Nick

    April 13, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    It’s the Royal wedding. Often called the purple wedding. I might get choked up.

  11. 11.

    ulee

    April 13, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    Here it comes. Don Draper is going to kill someone.

  12. 12.

    rikyrah

    April 13, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    Got plenty of tv for tonight

    Turn
    Mad Men
    Revenge
    Bletchley Circle

  13. 13.

    James E. Powell

    April 13, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    You know nothing John Cole.

  14. 14.

    Nicole

    April 13, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    Anyone think the purple necklace Dontos gave Sansa last week is meant to be the hairnet? You all who have read the books know what I’m talking about.

  15. 15.

    rikyrah

    April 13, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    just finished watching the Sidney Poitier movie version of Raisin in the Sun on Centric.

    now, they’re playing the most recent one with Puffy.

    the play really is timeless.

  16. 16.

    ulee

    April 13, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    Well, it’s Turn. I’ll have to wait until 10.

  17. 17.

    ulee

    April 13, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    Shawn should be yelling about getting a job, not living off Cole’s nickel.

  18. 18.

    Mike in NC

    April 13, 2014 at 9:07 pm

    Time to note “Fuck the fucking Lannisters”!

  19. 19.

    MikeJ

    April 13, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    I understand that in this episode somebody rolls doubles and gets to go twice.

  20. 20.

    ulee

    April 13, 2014 at 9:19 pm

    Whatever happened to the job search?

  21. 21.

    Pogonip

    April 13, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    And if you land directly on Go you draw 400 stags instead of 200.

    Who do you think will eventually end up ruling? I’d like to see Dany and Tyrion split the realm between them, but I think the likeliest candidate is Edric Storm. Poor kid.

  22. 22.

    jl

    April 13, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    OK, spoiler alert: somebody gets seriously effed over, medieval style. There is blood,

    Ha ha. That’s a joke. I haven’t watched a second of it, but, from what I’ve heard, some things can just be taken for granted.

  23. 23.

    max

    April 13, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    @Pogonip: I’d like to see Dany and Tyrion split the realm between them, but I think the likeliest candidate is Edric Storm. Poor kid.

    You mean Gendry? No. Snow.

    Lots of slaughtering this episode.

    max
    [‘Vicious.’]

  24. 24.

    tybee

    April 13, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    Winter is coming

    chauncy

  25. 25.

    jl

    April 13, 2014 at 9:29 pm

    Which character is the Huickabee in Game of Thrones? (serious question, even if I’ve never watched it.)

    Huckabee: Beginning To Think There Is More Freedom In North Korea Than U.S.

    “When I go to the airport, I have to get in the surrender position, people put hands all over me, and I have to provide photo ID and a couple of different forms and prove that I really am not going to terrorize the airplane – but if I want to go vote I don’t need a thing,” he continued, according to MSNBC.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/huckabee-more-freedom-north-korea

    Edit: I don’t care if Huckabee whines about pat downs, but note how he drifts off to thinking about how too easy to vote in the U.S. Game of Thrones coming to our realm!

  26. 26.

    ulee

    April 13, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    Winter is coming, Shawn.

  27. 27.

    ruemara

    April 13, 2014 at 9:32 pm

    I couldn’t stand one more moment of reading up on marketing for a department I have no real access to anymore, so I did some selfies. I rather like this one.

  28. 28.

    max

    April 13, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    Melisandre’s a Cathar! Dude!

    max
    [‘Gymnastics!’]

  29. 29.

    Mike in NC

    April 13, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    @jl: Huckabee should be flayed live on FOX.

  30. 30.

    PaulW

    April 13, 2014 at 9:38 pm

    I dunno why ANYONE would want to stage a Game-of-Thrones themed wedding… it’s just bad karma, people…

  31. 31.

    hildebrand

    April 13, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    @Pogonip: I really want Arya to rule – it would be perfect justice for a Stark to wind up on the throne. Of course, she won’t be quite as honorable as dear, old Dad. Especially after…

  32. 32.

    Zirgar

    April 13, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    Snape kills Joffrey

  33. 33.

    Big R

    April 13, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    @Zirgar: @hildebrand: Especially after Snape kills Joffrey? Why would that effect Arya’s honorablosity?

  34. 34.

    Anoniminous

    April 13, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    If they weren’t going to use the “official” title A Song of Ice and Fire they should have gone for accuracy: Games of Homicidal Maniacs.

  35. 35.

    RobertDSC-Power Mac G5 Dual

    April 13, 2014 at 9:46 pm

    Huckabee should be flayed doused in green fire live on FOX.

    Fixed.

    Fuck that shitbag.

  36. 36.

    hildebrand

    April 13, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    @Big R: Because she is the one who forged the ring that held Snape under thrall – duh.

  37. 37.

    Big R

    April 13, 2014 at 9:50 pm

    @hildebrand: Three dragons for the Targaryen under the sky; seven direwolves for Starks in their halls of stone; nine zombies for Baratheons doomed to die; and one for Evil Santa on his dark throne.

    One show to rule them all; one show to find them; one show to bring them all, and murder them in inventive ways that usually advance the plot.

  38. 38.

    Kristine

    April 13, 2014 at 9:55 pm

    Really glad that sick bastard is dead.

    Now if someone could see to Ramsay Snow….

  39. 39.

    Sly

    April 13, 2014 at 9:57 pm

    The entertainment lineup at the Baratheon-Tyrell Wedding was far superior to that of the Stark-Frey Wedding, but the food and drink left something to be desired.

  40. 40.

    Hill Dweller

    April 13, 2014 at 10:02 pm

    Nice Sigur Ros cameo in tonight’s episode.

  41. 41.

    max

    April 13, 2014 at 10:04 pm

    @Anoniminous: Games of Homicidal Maniacs.

    Not read many history books have you?

    @Kristine: Now if someone could see to Ramsay Snow….

    He twitches quite convincingly, doesn’t he? Between him and Theon, it’s a goddamn twitchfest.

    max
    [‘So wedding season is over and now it’s on with the things falling apart bits.’]

  42. 42.

    recurvata

    April 13, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    My first episode. Where’s the porn?

  43. 43.

    ulee

    April 13, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    It never ceases to amaze me how people will willfully step up to get fucked over.

  44. 44.

    CaseyL

    April 13, 2014 at 10:08 pm

    Margaery has been spared what would have been a nightmare of a wedding night. Do the books establish who actually was behind the poisoning? So many suspects!

  45. 45.

    Mike in NC

    April 13, 2014 at 10:11 pm

    @CaseyL: Red Viper

  46. 46.

    CaseyL

    April 13, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    @Mike in NC: Ooh, he’s a sly one. Wonder if Tyrion getting the blame was planned, or a happy (from the Viper’s point of view) accident.

    ETA: I’m on the West Coast, but GoT airs “early” here – 6:00 our time, so I think we get it the same time as the East Coast.

  47. 47.

    Pogonip

    April 13, 2014 at 10:20 pm

    There’s a sample chapter where Arya kills another baddie–Raff the Sweetling, if I remember right. If she works her way over to Ramsay Snow, I’ll make myself a liar and buy Winds of Winter just for that (if Martin actually finishes it).

  48. 48.

    Walker

    April 13, 2014 at 10:21 pm

    @Mike in NC:
    @CaseyL:

    It was not the Red Viper. You will learn who did it soon enough.

  49. 49.

    A Humble Lurker

    April 13, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    @ulee:
    You yourself did it the other day.

  50. 50.

    Pogonip

    April 13, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    @recurvata: It’s waiting for someone to invent the pornograph.

    By the way, I think an excellent plot twist would be for someone to discover gunpowder.

  51. 51.

    Walker

    April 13, 2014 at 10:28 pm

    @Pogonip:

    Wildfire is better than gunpowder. (Accurate) Firearms come LONG after gunpowder.

  52. 52.

    ulee

    April 13, 2014 at 10:29 pm

    @A Humble Lurker: I speak the truth. If you don’t like it, then disagree.

  53. 53.

    ulee

    April 13, 2014 at 10:34 pm

    or stay vague. that’s ok too.

  54. 54.

    kindness

    April 13, 2014 at 10:41 pm

    Ding dong the King is dead.

  55. 55.

    Walker

    April 13, 2014 at 10:52 pm

    @efgoldman:

    That is not an excuse for throwing natural technology progression out the window.

  56. 56.

    Pogonip

    April 13, 2014 at 11:02 pm

    @Walker: True, but we gotta start somewhere!

  57. 57.

    Pogonip

    April 13, 2014 at 11:04 pm

    @kindness: Robert or Joffrey? (The little $hit.)

  58. 58.

    PsiFighter37

    April 13, 2014 at 11:07 pm

    On the East Coast here. Not really sure who did it – the obvious choice is Oberyn (at least from my standpoint, having not read the books). But it does make me wonder if Tyrion is going to face the sword, finally. That wedding celebration was all sorts of weird – people celebrating, then not celebrating.

    I do think it very well could be Cersei – it’s a way for her to remain as queen regent for several years longer, as Joffrey’s younger brother (and Jaime’s/Cersei’s younger son) is nowhere near old enough to rule yet.

    Oh, and Stannis is still an asshole. Burning your brother-in-law is cold, although given how crazy his wife is, I don’t necessarily feel bad about it.

    After all that has gone down, there are very few sympathetic characters on the show left. Probably Daenarys, Tyrion, Sansa, Davos, and Jon Snow. The rest of them can all DIAF.

  59. 59.

    max

    April 13, 2014 at 11:43 pm

    @Walker: Wildfire is better than gunpowder. (Accurate) Firearms come LONG after gunpowder.

    Right. And greek fire came before gunpowder. And cannon came before hand-held firearms.

    max
    [‘The technology progression is fine really – it’s 1400 or so.’]

  60. 60.

    John S.

    April 13, 2014 at 11:48 pm

    I think the Queen of Thorns did it. Her little quip to Sansa about people getting murdered at a wedding was pretty telling. And she certainly had a motive to protect her granddaughter.

    But she couldn’t have done it alone. Somebody else must be in on it.

  61. 61.

    ulee

    April 14, 2014 at 12:21 am

    Oh no, I said too much. I set it up.

  62. 62.

    Scamp Dog

    April 14, 2014 at 12:25 am

    @Zirgar, @Mike in NC: No, it was Professor Plum, in the solar, with the battleship.

  63. 63.

    ulee

    April 14, 2014 at 12:29 am

    @A Humble Lurker: I think I saw you try. Every hour, I’m choosing my confession…

  64. 64.

    gf120581

    April 14, 2014 at 12:39 am

    @John S.: Perhaps. Perhaps it’s someone who wasn’t even seen this episode. Someone who sent Dontos to get Sansa out. Someone with a knack for plots…

    But I may have said too much.

  65. 65.

    Loneoak

    April 14, 2014 at 12:54 am

    It’s unambiguous that Sansa did it in the books, with poison hidden in the necklace given to her by Ser Dantos (the fool). Watch the sequence again and you see her drop something in there from her sleeve. I do like the ambiguity of whether Tyrion saw and abetted it.

  66. 66.

    Bobbo

    April 14, 2014 at 12:58 am

    If it’s Sansa I’m impressed!

  67. 67.

    Royston Vasey

    April 14, 2014 at 12:58 am

    Still have to wait 3.30hrs till it’s on here in New Zealand (which will be Monday at 8:30pm)
    Got S04E01 on right now instead

    RV

  68. 68.

    ulee

    April 14, 2014 at 1:15 am

    Another dead thread. You should hold up your own end, humble lurker. It’s not good for you to cut up and run.

  69. 69.

    Radio One

    April 14, 2014 at 2:12 am

    Tyrion is obviously going to be proved blameless in Joffrey’s death at some point this season. It’s going to be either the Tyrells or the fool or Varys that’s going to be complicit, and they are all going to go to the mat to make sure Tyrion is public enemy no 1.

  70. 70.

    Royston Vasey

    April 14, 2014 at 5:35 am

    @Radio One: Just finished watching!
    Can’t see Tyrion being found blameless even if Sansa and Dontos the fool have done a runner.
    Has Shae gone gone (like Ros previously) or something else? Enquiring minds must know!

    RV in NZ

  71. 71.

    PaulW

    April 14, 2014 at 7:16 am

    @recurvata:

    My first episode. Where’s the porn?

    At Littlefinger’s. Tell him Cat sent you.

  72. 72.

    Lurking Canadian

    April 14, 2014 at 7:52 am

    @Loneoak: You and I use very different definitions of “unambiguous”.

  73. 73.

    John S.

    April 14, 2014 at 8:38 am

    @gf120581:

    Littlefinger!

  74. 74.

    RobertB

    April 14, 2014 at 9:04 am

    @John S.: The Tyrells and Littlefinger. The Tyrells because Joffrey, Littlefinger because he wants to stir up maximum shit and steal Sansa.

  75. 75.

    Citizen_X

    April 14, 2014 at 9:25 am

    @PsiFighter37:

    That wedding celebration was all sorts of weird – people celebrating, then not celebrating.

    Yeah, well, Joffrey is like that.

    Er, was.

  76. 76.

    JimV

    April 14, 2014 at 10:35 am

    “It’s unambiguous that Sansa did it in the books, with poison hidden in the necklace given to her by Ser Dantos (the fool).”

    Disagree. The usual rule works. Look for the most well-known actor/actress in the smallest role. Which agrees with what I read in the book. Definitely not Sansa. Although, I am surprised by the number of (bad) changes to the books that I have seen so far, so I guess it could be anyone.

  77. 77.

    kindness

    April 14, 2014 at 11:13 am

    One thing I found odd. Prior to the season starting you had several cast members commenting upon what a lavish and enormous scene the wedding was and in all honesty that wasn’t all that lavish or spectacular. I must be getting jaded.

  78. 78.

    Mayur

    April 14, 2014 at 11:46 am

    @Loneoak: Not even close. Sansa carries the poison that kills Joffrey, but it’s not even by her knowledge, let alone her intent. The poison is planted by a certain someone who is nowhere near King’s Landing, and delivered by someone else who (a) spends enough time with Sansa to lift it off her person; (b) is subtle enough to put it into Joffrey’s wine; and (c) has someone to protect from his more monstrous tendencies. No points for guesses on both counts but the show has actually revealed it anyway.

  79. 79.

    Paul in KY

    April 14, 2014 at 1:42 pm

    @hildebrand: I think Littlefinger outlasts & out-schemes them all.

  80. 80.

    lol

    April 14, 2014 at 2:19 pm

    Where would we be without “clever” bookreaders running around going “I’m not going to spoil it for you but here’s a massive spoiler anyways wink wink :)”

  81. 81.

    Theron Ware

    April 14, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    So glad Joffrey Baratheon got his just deserts!

  82. 82.

    Augie

    April 14, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    I don’t know what compulsion I find weirder or more vexing. When readers post spoilers without warning. Or when readers post INCORRECT spoilers through deviousness or just plain ignorance. This thread has plenty of examples of both. Re-evaluate your lives people.

  83. 83.

    Mayur

    April 14, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    How is anything related to who poisoned Joffrey a “spoiler” at this point? (Unless by “spoiler” you mean “for those who didn’t watch S4E2). The major actors are pretty clearly laid out.

    I do agree; I’m gonna stop talking to my friends who are just watching the show and haven’t read the books, but it is damned frustrating to have to keep mum on stuff that has been known since 2005 and will take until 2016 to be revealed in the show. As someone who watches the show, I haven’t found that knowledge of the major plot points has actually made it any less enjoyable, but your mileage may vary.

  84. 84.

    Theron Ware

    April 14, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    @Theron Ware: Oops, I meant desserts!

  85. 85.

    Donalbain

    April 15, 2014 at 4:35 am

    @Loneoak:

    http://i.imgur.com/OAziSYf.png

    http://i.imgur.com/eYYjUoS.jpg

    Two pics make it obvious what happened.

  86. 86.

    Julia Grey

    April 15, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    Was it the wine?

    Jeoffrey was the only one who ate any PIE…was it actually meant to be served to the whole Lannister brood/wedding party, or intended just for Jeoffrey?

    A certain visitor from Dorn certainly has a bone to pick (no pun intended) with the Lannister family…

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