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Another Open Thread

by $8 blue check mistermix|  April 14, 201410:49 am| 23 Comments

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  1. 1.

    Tommy

    April 14, 2014 at 11:00 am

    Rewatching West Wing on Netflix and my gosh I kind of forgot how good of a show this was. I think it is even better on the second viewing. I know it isn’t reality and Sorkin can rub some people the wrong way, but the show at least to me is as “fresh” today as it was years ago.

  2. 2.

    Mnemosyne

    April 14, 2014 at 11:03 am

    I know we have a bunch of North Carolinians who hang out here who may have heard of this local controversy gone viral:

    Statue of a Homeless Jesus Startles a Wealthy Community

    There are apparently quite a few “Christians” who don’t like to think about the verse I remember singing in our Catholic church: “Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me.”

  3. 3.

    Betty Cracker

    April 14, 2014 at 11:08 am

    @Tommy: I never saw the West Wing during its run on network TV, though I’d heard of it, of course. I discovered it fairly recently, when it came out on Netflix. I thought it was pretty good.

  4. 4.

    schrodinger's cat

    April 14, 2014 at 11:11 am

    @Tommy: It is alternate reality. Republicans in office are actually smart and thoughtful.

  5. 5.

    Roger Moore

    April 14, 2014 at 11:14 am

    @Mnemosyne:
    There are lots of religious people of all stripes who are more than happy to ignore the inconvenient parts of their religions. The thing I’d be most worried about is that the statue that shocks people today will gradually turn into part of the background and be ignored in a distressingly short time. The message won’t sink in with the people who need it most because they’ll turn a blind eye to it, just as they skim over those parts of the Bible that contain the same message.

  6. 6.

    SatanicPanic

    April 14, 2014 at 11:14 am

    @Mnemosyne: That’s pretty cool actually. I’d consider that church if I were religious

  7. 7.

    Tommy

    April 14, 2014 at 11:16 am

    @Betty Cracker: Some of the overarching stories I am not a huge fan of. But single shows, like Indians in the Lobby that are “one off” are just amazing. In that show, two Native American Indians show up in the lobby on Thanksgiving and refuse to leave. They want a ruling on their land. They are told the Federal government is huge, and things take time. The Indians say they have been waiting 18 years. CJ then goes to bat for them.

    There is a conversation where the Indians say they were relocated. Promised this and that. It never happened. Much of the land they were promised was later taken away. Oh and you introduced our people to alcohol, we really thank you for that.

    I don’t know, maybe the hippie liberal I am, but I can watch TV like that all day.

  8. 8.

    Penus

    April 14, 2014 at 11:18 am

    Have we bitched here about the Bundy vs. BLM case? Because if not, I’d like us to start.

    Nothing quite like letting the tinfoil-hat militia types get their way. Emboldening them could never lead to anything bad.

  9. 9.

    Mnemosyne

    April 14, 2014 at 11:19 am

    @Roger Moore:

    It’s always hard to say. Some people will ignore it, others will be spurred to think about it. There will be some people who leave the church in high dudgeon because of the “blasphemy” and others who join because of the statue.

  10. 10.

    Amir Khalid

    April 14, 2014 at 11:20 am

    @Betty Cracker:
    The West Wing was the show I was waiting for, one night after coming home from work, when TV3 (the station that showed it in Malaysia) suddenly cut to live video of the World Trade Center towers coming down.

  11. 11.

    Mike E

    April 14, 2014 at 11:23 am

    @Mnemosyne: It’s best not to rile up the natives faithful, especially if they’re packin’ heat.

  12. 12.

    Tommy

    April 14, 2014 at 11:23 am

    @Roger Moore: I was raised a Methodist in a small town founded by German immigrants more than 200 years ago. I am an Atheist but I do respect the church I went to as a child. I recall in like 1984 when the first African American couple started to attend the place stood up to cheer to welcome them. We wanted diversity. When I did work for the church during Confirmation it was not to protest to get mad at people, but to help those less fortunate then me. I was taught that was what Jesus preached in Sunday school!

    I wish I would have taken a picture of the sign outside the church. But when gay marriage was up in the Illinois legislature the sign said something like “we welcome all, including the LGBT community with open arms.”

  13. 13.

    Suffern ACE

    April 14, 2014 at 11:45 am

    @Penus: Yep. Although what are you going to do? If I were a rancher, I’d stop paying BLM fees immediately. There’s no reason to do so until someone gets hurt.

  14. 14.

    Aardvark Cheeselog

    April 14, 2014 at 11:50 am

    How A Medical Marijuana Measure Could Boost Florida Democrats (warning Puff Ho post)

    “I wish that it didn’t take medical marijuana on the ballot to motivate our young voters to go and vote because there’s far too much at stake for them and their children,” said Ana Cruz, former executive director of the Florida Democratic Party. “But listen, we’ll take it any way we can get it.”

    Well, I wish Democratic officials from dogcatcher on up would be engaging in a ceaseless screaming chorus of “F*ck the deficit, young people got no jobs and no money,” but since they won’t I’ll take medpot instead.

  15. 15.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 14, 2014 at 11:51 am

    @Tommy:

    I own the entirety of The West Wing on DVD, and treat myself to a marathon viewing about once a year. It had a few not-so-good moments, but overall it remains one of my favourite series ever.

  16. 16.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 14, 2014 at 11:54 am

    @Aardvark Cheeselog:

    How A Medical Marijuana Measure Could Boost Florida Democrats (warning Puff Ho post)

    “Puff Ho.” LOL.

    (Edited to fix wonky blockquoting.)

  17. 17.

    Penus

    April 14, 2014 at 11:55 am

    @Suffern ACE: Seriously. Why pay them at all? They issued a permanent injunction against having his cattle on those lands in 1998. The fact that they’ve accommodated him for this long is a slap in the face to the rule of law. The BLM’s collection mechanism is clearly, demonstrably toothless.

    He’s no different from people who just decide not to pay taxes.

  18. 18.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    April 14, 2014 at 12:04 pm

    @Penus: They’ve accommodated him as his appeals of assorted cases have made their way through the legal system. It’s sort of like letting the process of law work. The BLM folks were in no fashion equipped to deal with armed resistance; that’s not past of their charter. Leaving before an escalation in which bloodshed occurred was an exercise in good judgment, IMHO. There are agencies (e.g., FBI, federal marshals) with staff who are prepared by training and tools to enforce orders in which an armed response to enforcement action is a possibility.

  19. 19.

    Roger Moore

    April 14, 2014 at 12:08 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
    I do wonder why they released the cattle they had already rounded up, though. It seems like they’re just creating more dangerous work for themselves the next time they try to enforce the court judgments against him.

  20. 20.

    Fort Geek

    April 14, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    @Tommy: My favorite scene ever is when a Laura Schlessinger figure is utterly humiliated by the President.

  21. 21.

    Penus

    April 14, 2014 at 12:48 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):

    That’s a fair point. The guy reminds me of the Patriot movement from the 1990s, when people would declare themselves sovereign citizens and drive around with homemade license plates. I’m a former newspaper employee, and the movement was great for newspapers, because they submitted LONG secession notices to classifieds sections.

    A major difference between now and then: fairly conservative (or at least non-liberal) local governments and PDs looked at those people as annoying pains in the ass. Now they’re the base.

  22. 22.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    April 14, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Especially given the anniversary that’s coming up. Back off, let things cool for a couple of weeks, see if the mob can stay put for that long. Prepare to file liens against his cattle and his property. Start the process to garnish any farm bill payments he gets.

  23. 23.

    Mnemosyne

    April 14, 2014 at 2:47 pm

    @Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism:

    Yep. Don’t want to give any dumbasses a chance to be a martyr.

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