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Always the victim:

So let’s just start with, we don’t agree on the facts,” Nye responded. “This third report came out, saying it’s very serious, you say no. There’s the essence of the problem, S.E.”

Cupp then interjected to call scientists bullies.

“Isn’t it a problem when science guys attempt to bully other people?” Cupp asked Nye. “Nick here had to say, ‘I’m not a denier.’ He had to get it out: ‘I’m not a denier.’ Because really, the science group has tried to shame anyone who dares question this, and the point I’m trying to make is, it’s not working with the public.”

Using facts to tell people they’re wrong is the new Westboro Baptist Church picketing funerals of dead soldiers.

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  1. 1.

    Phoenician in a time of Romans

    If I had the option, I’d start calling her “Alice” or “Mildred” in these debates. And when she objected, I’d claim that her name wasn’t a fact, that my opinion on her name was as good as anyone else’s, and that she was bullying people by insisting on her “facts”.

    But then, her intended audience wouldn’t get the point.

  2. 2.

    mellowjohn

    hey, sippy? you may think the glasses make you look smart, but when you open your mouth you ruin the effect.

  3. 3.

    srv

    If I could just go back in time and bully Xtian kids. Just torture them. Give them the cross they so ache to be crucified on.

  4. 4.

    dmsilev

    I know that my fondest memories growing up as a nerd were the times that me and my posse would beat up athletes, take their lunch money, and stuff them in lockers.

    Also, does SIppy Cupp have an actually first name, or is it really just ‘S.E.’?

  5. 5.

    gnomedad

    “bullying people with facts” should be a tagline or tag or label or whatever the hell it’s called.

  6. 6.

    JustRuss

    @gnomedad:

    “bullying people with facts” should be a tagline

    Hell, I’m thinking it would make a fine tattoo.

  10. 10.

    Origuy

    According to Wikipedia, she has a BA in Art History and an MS in Religious Studies. While these are no slight accomplishments, they don’t qualify you to dispute physics with a PhD in astrophysics.

    ETA. She studied ballet, and he got a gold medal in Latin Ballroom. He’s probably a better dancer than her, too.

    ETA2. Sorry, it was Bill Nye she was talking about. I thought it was Neil deGrasse Tyson.

  12. 12.

    Seanly

    snicker snicker, love the title. You’ll probably be nominated for a Moore award though now…

  13. 13.

    Tonybrown74

    @srv:

    That last nail is always a bitch to get in.

    You almost want to help them, but then they will accuse you of putting them up on that cross if you do.

    Let them wail.

  14. 14.

    Jebediah, RBG

    @ranchandsyrup:

    both she and tucker carlson are from my neck of the woods. SADDESTOFFACES

    You can’t see it, but I here is my most sympathetic of sympathy faces…

  15. 15.

    Ash Can

    Because really, the science group has tried to shame anyone who dares question this

    Um, no, dear. There are no science groups shaming you. You’re doing that yourself, bless your heart.

  16. 16.

    Hungry Joe

    This aggressive, unapologetic ignorance is nothing new. Back in Watergate days there was a GOP Congressman named Landgrebe from southern Indiana who, when presented with evidence of Nixonian perfidy, said, “Don’t confuse me with the facts. I’ve got a closed mind.” Difference was, he became in instant laughingstock, and even though he was from a pretty red district he got voted out next time around.

  17. 17.

    The Moar You Know

    both she and tucker carlson are from my neck of the woods. SADDESTOFFACES

    @ranchandsyrup: Fucker Carlson went to my buddy’s prep school, and showed up (uninvited) at one of our parties in North County (mid 1980s) and came within an inch of getting his ass seriously beaten. To call him “deliberately annoying” would be the understatement of the year.

    ETA: To find out that Sippy’s from here is no shocker as well, it just makes me die a little inside. This place was so cool, once a long time ago.

  18. 18.

    Amir Khalid

    @Origuy:
    Who is the astrophysics doctorate you speak of? Per Bill Nye’s Wikipedia entry, he is a mechanical engineer with a bachelor’s degree from Cornell, but his three doctorates are all honorary.

  23. 23.

    HR Progressive

    There was once a time I thought she was actually supposed to be an “intelligent conservative”.

    But this exchange erases all doubt. She’s as dumb as the rest of ’em.

  25. 25.

    pzerzan

    When is Freddie DeBoer going to write that while Bill Nye may be right, he’s still a bully.

  26. 26.

    scav

    If science results were entirely up to public popularity contests, buildings would stop burning by firemen concentratedly ignoring them and deep fried chocolate chip cookies would be the pre-eminent diet food.

  28. 28.

    The Moar You Know

    @Hungry Joe: He couldn’t push me the extra inch. I just wanted him out without the cops showing up, since we were all under legal drinking age.

    He really should have thanked me. I kept him and his two bros from getting a world-class beatdown. He had no idea. I got the vibe that he had no idea that anyone would even consider hurting him.

    Knowing what I know now, I didn’t do him any favors (although “doing him a favor” was the last thing on my mind). A beating would have improved his attitude considerably, I’m thinking. But then some of us would have ended up in jail, and he would have gotten off as “the victim”.

  29. 29.

    MattF

    ‘Facts’ are very low on the list of things that motivate Ms. Cupp. Prejudices, beliefs, resentment, projection, etc. I guess Nye hopes that whoever he’s debating will say something so stupid that it goes viral– so this is a win for Nye. I don’t envy him, though.

  32. 32.

    cckids

    @HR Progressive:

    There was once a time I thought she was actually supposed to be an “intelligent conservative”.

    She was/is. It is an extremely low bar, with few contenders for the throne.

  35. 35.

    Morzer

    @pzerzan:

    Freddie would never say that. He’d have to use a lot more words and the concept of “objective despicabilititudinousnessosity” would be deployed against EVIL BULLIES!!!

  36. 36.

    HR Progressive

    @cckids:

    Certainly going to put my money on “Was”.

    I remember when she was on MSNBC, and I mean, I didn’t agree with her, but at least found her tolerable to listen to…which, again, extremely low bar…but there’s a lot of right wingers I literally cannot listen to speak, nails, chalkboard, etc.

    But now? Blech.

  37. 37.

    jl

    Let me get this straight: telling SE Cupp that you disagree with her about some facts is bullying? How?

  46. 46.

    Citizen_X

    This goes along with Dana Perino’s line, highlighted the other day on the Colbert Report: “Hey, it would have been a good point if it were true.”

  48. 48.

    PsiFighter37

    I’d never heard of S.E. Cupp before this, and I’m glad I’ll continue to ignore her.

    Also, too, CNN hired this lady? No wonder they got shat on by everyone at the WHCD. They don’t deserve to be respected anymore.

  49. 49.

    Violet

    @HR Progressive:

    There was once a time I thought she was actually supposed to be an “intelligent conservative”.

    That’s like the unicorn. Doesn’t exist.

  50. 50.

    Cassidy

    She’s only gotten anywhere because of Bill Maher. I wish he’d just fuck her and dump her so we can be rid of her.

  52. 52.

    dan

    “I’m not a denier, but” just undermines whatever follows. Just like you know what’s coming when you hear “I’m not a racist, but … “

  55. 55.

    PIGL

    SE Cupp? A slightly more presentable Atlas Juggs. Going for the sexy librarian look, in contrast to the considerably more aged Anne Coulter’s coked-out, cocktail-dress sleaze. There’s not enough booze in the world to get me do ’em, jointly or severally. There’s not even enough blow.

    If you want them mango’s, head over to sadlyno.

  56. 56.

    Patricia Kayden

    “Isn’t it a problem when science guys attempt to bully other people?” Cupp asked Nye.

    Bullying by giving people the facts of global warming? Really?

  57. 57.

    sm*t cl*de

    An Objectivist claims the right to her own facts? Nope, didn’t see that coming.

  58. 58.

    chopper

    that bill nye, what a huge bully. I’ll be the kicks sand in dudes’ faces on the beach and everything.

    seriously, what a hack. “I clearly don’t know what I’m talking about, so that makes you a bully”

  63. 63.

    Shana

    @ranchandsyrup: Thanks. Despite the fact that the vast majority of American jews are Democrats, politics is never a part of the sermons there.

  66. 66.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @HR Progressive: What is sad is that she obviously has some intelligence, but she’s willingly given it up to be as bone ignorant as the rest of the scum in her momvement.

    These people willingly become sub-humans, willing give up whatever FSM granted talent or smarts they have to fit in with the vile tribe they’ve chosen to align themselves with. It’s like the old joke we told in the Army about someone being promoted to Major and then reporting to the post medical center for their field grade lobotomy.

  67. 67.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @PsiFighter37:

    Also, too, CNN hired this lady? No wonder they got shat on by everyone at the WHCD. They don’t deserve to be respected anymore.

    The best part of the WHCD was shots of Leslie Blitzer’s carved-in-granite face as barb after barb was launched at the wreckage of Ted Turner’s once great yacht, CNN,

  68. 68.

    Hungry Joe

    @Shana: Your rabbi needs a little backbone: Part of repairing the world is calling out vicious destructos like those two. I suspect a good part of the congregation would love it.

  69. 69.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Citizen_X: Sarah Palin deliberately wears glasses as well, even though she’s had lasik surgery to correct her vision. Sarah thinks it makes her look smart.

  71. 71.

    cokane

    Cupp isn’t dumb imo. She’s just another grifter who’s trying to fill the space occupied by Coulter. I doubt she believes half the shit she says. Just look at that debate with Nye, she’s not even arguing the denial side, just doing some unnecessary mental gymnastics to score points on a liberal scientist.

  72. 72.

    Shana

    @Pogonip: Sorry I can’t say, I’ve never actually spoken to either one. I try to be elsewhere when possible.

  73. 73.

    Shana

    @Hungry Joe: You’re right about the attitude of most of the congregation I suspect, but I also think it was probably made very clear when he was hired, as well as to our assistant rabbi, that it is a subject to be avoided.

  75. 75.

    Mnemosyne

    @jl:

    Let me get this straight: telling SE Cupp that you disagree with her about some facts is bullying? How?

    Because telling her that she’s factually wrong is mean, and therefore bullying. QED.

  77. 77.

    Chocko Rocko

    Pretty Mean Girl accuses science nerd of being a bully. I think my high school just imploded.

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