Fitting end to another Pens season, a team stacked with talent crushed by a young team.
See you all on Thursday.
*** Update ***
Okay, so the United States of Tara is brilliant and I may be up until 2 am.
Open Thread
This post is in: Open Threads, Sports, Assholes
p.a.
NHL playoffs year-in year-out the best spectacle in North American sports. Let’s go Bruins! Game 7’s are pissah.
ronin122
JC not to pour salt in the wound but what do you think is missing from the Pens? I mean they’re always a top 3 team in the East and two years ago they get snuffed by a team that played with a good defense and a brick wall for a goaltender. Can’t say I was rooting for them but at the same time I expected better last few years.
Linnaeus
I’m guessing Bylsma’s gone after this series loss.
SiubhanDuinne
Wait, what happened to Wednesday?
:: pout ::
ulee
The are not Pens. They are Penguins. They are comical flightless birds who look like they are wearing tuxedos. This is why they lost.
PsiFighter37
Are the Rangers really a young team? I don’t follow hockey that closely, but I’ve never gotten that impression.
We haven’t won a Cup for 20 years…I don’t want to have to wait 54 until the next one.
trollhattan
Ukrainian nazi bastards steal patriotic bullets in ongoing campaign of oppression.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27396448
And Santa Maria! They maybe found the Santa Maria?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27397579
Linnaeus
@PsiFighter37:
Rangers are the 13th youngest team in the NHL, but the Pens are the 4th oldest.
S. cerevisiae
Meanwhile my Wild are giving the Blackhawks a hell of a game. LET’S GO WILD!!!!!
srv
I need a second happy hour
kindness
‘See you on Thursday’. God I hope that doesn’t mean you are going on a 36 hour bender because of the Pens season.
AnotherBruce
Sorry John, I really would like to see your Penguins in the SCF with my Blackhawks. That would be entertaining.
smintheus
The Penguins haven’t done well under Captain Crosby. They keep melting down in the playoffs, year after year. I suspect they need a different leader, he’s a great sniper but he doesn’t have the maturity and the resilience and the emotional depth to lead that team.
Punchy
Did I see correctly that an Idaho judge struck down ID’s gay marriage ban? Can gays now marry at the Citadel? Can boys hitch boys in Boise?
some guy
a Bruins-Penguins series would have been fun, but Bruins/Rangers will be way more 70’s.
Suffern ACE
A short history of the METTAG, an accessory I hope never to wear.
some guy
@trollhattan:
Separatists versus Putschists, hmmm, so hard to choose. will there be cake?
smintheus
@some guy: The Broons have to get past the Habs first.
max
@smintheus: The Penguins havenât done well under Captain Crosby. They keep melting down in the playoffs, year after year. I suspect they need a different leader, heâs a great sniper but he doesnât have the maturity and the resilience and the emotional depth to lead that team.
Except he’s not a great sniper… in the playoffs. That would be one problem. The other problem would be Fleury.
Lundqvist had a great series.
max
[‘And that was enough.’]
different-church-lady
@p.a.:
I think it would be extremely pissah if all 4 series in this round went to game 7.
some guy
Game 7 will be wicked pissah.
JenJen
Halte-lĂĄ, halte-lĂĄ, halte-lĂĄ, les Canadiens, les Canadiens!
Kickin’ that shit old-school just like the conference finals. Guaranteed Original Six!
Sorry, Cole. We still have hockey.
JenJen
@ronin122: What is missing from the Pens? A Carey Price. A Tuuka Rask. They have everything else.
Suffern ACE
There is a growing problem in the world of bananas. I’m not certain what it is. Your standard Cavandish banana hasn’t had sex in years and now is threatened by a fungus.
At the same time, limited edition bananas. I worry if the trend catches on, all the cheap knock off bananas will be taken off the market.
S. cerevisiae
@different-church-lady:
Totally agree.
scav
@JenJen: I don’t even have to know who he is or what he does. Many things would be better with a Tuuka Rask, or even just a Tuuka.
ok, especially a Tuuka in a Truuck.
MikeJ
Is Randiho going to return for World Cup blogging this summer? Might the new health care/referee blogger join in?
smintheus
@max: Well Lundqvist had a good series last year against the Bruins. Still lost. Agreed that Fleury’s weak in the playoffs, but you have to have a coherent team in front of your goaltender.
Yatsuno
@JenJen: Je t’aime beaucoups. :)
dedc79
I was at game 4 and after that embarrassment it didn’t seem possible the Rangers could fight their way back. But then they did.
Mnemosyne
@Suffern ACE:
Yet another reason to save up and retire to Hawaii: they have their own banana cultivar that you can grow in your backyard there.
(Technically, it’s a Filipino cultivar, but it’s not very commercial and grows very well in gardens in Hawaii.)
JenJen
@Yatsuno: Shhhtem aussi!!
@scav: I’d still take a Carey over a Tuuka, but you have a point.
indycat32
Just glad I decided not to shell out $150 to attend the Pacer game
Lymie
Sorry about the Pens, JC, but Lundqvist is awfully yummy looking. Go Broons. Next dog will be called Tuuka, to join Jason (Varitek) and Doc (Rivers). Or maybe Poppy if a female (Papi).
Dogs and hockey, all in one comment. And objectivication.
Go Wild.
Old Dan and Little Ann
Fuck the Rangers. The Pens spit the bit in this series for sure. Bylsma should definitely be fired and Fleury should be traded. The Pens are one of the few teams I don’t despise so this series sucked ass. Go Habs.
gene108
Watching Clippers-Thunder. Good game.
? Martin
@Lymie:
How many teeth do you think he actually has?
Mnemosyne
@? Martin:
How picky are you about them being his natural-born teeth?
jl
I don’t know enough about hockey to give advice about play.
Their penguin mascot looks like a constipated parrot on some kind of weird recreational drug that is making the situation worse.
They need a fierce, determined, penguin who looks like it is ready to tear shit up.
Send them some pics of Rosie, and tell them that they can start the make-over from there.
Just trying to reach out and help a soul in distress.
Omnes Omnibus
@? Martin: I would guess that at least 28 are his own (30 if he still has his wisdom teeth).
JenJen
@Lymie:
Right?? And he as an identical twin brother! Imagine that guy’s life.
maeve
United States of Tara – not sure I liked how it ended but it had to end when it did.
Other short-lived shows I’ve binge-watched – not necessarily brilliant nor a definitive list.
– Awake (Netflix) – possibly brilliat
– Life on Mars (first the US version (Netflix), then the UK version (which was better – no longer free on Amazon Prime)
– Endgame on Hulu Plus – not that great but entertaining
– Alphas (Netflix) – not brilliant but i liked it
– Dollhouse – Netflix – okay totally not brilliant but redeemed by the two end of season “epitaphs”
– Firefly – had to say it
–
JenJen
@? Martin: He has about this many teeth remaining: http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/henrik-300×300.jpg
Poor bastard. ;-)
Steeplejack
@Cole:
Are you watching 24: Live Another Day? The thought of the 24 franchise turns my stomach now, because it makes me think of Dick Cheney using it as a how-to manual, but the TV was accidentally on that channel last night and I noticed that the future Mrs. Cole, Yvonne Strahovski, is a star of this run.
Botsplainer
@Steeplejack:
Chuck’s girlfriend of the short skirt and long jacket?
She could be my next wife any day of the week, ***swoon***
Omnes Omnibus
Kane ends it for the Wild. Woohoo.
S. cerevisiae
crap.
Omnes Omnibus
@S. cerevisiae: I see that we take differing views of the the event.
smintheus
@Omnes Omnibus: What a crap ending to a great match.
MomSense
@maeve:
Did you see the show Life? It was a great show that fell victim to the writers’ strike and ended abruptly. Damian Lewis is fantastic in it.
Omnes Omnibus
@smintheus: Crap ending? A backhander in overtime?
JenJen
Sorry, Wild fans. You impressed the shit out of hockey fans this season!!
Think we’ll be seeing you guys around for awhile and I’m glad.
@smintheus: How could any Free Hockey OT ending be a crap ending? Just hockey, baby,
2liberal
@MikeJ:
let’s hope not. No more football-thread trolls!
Omnes Omnibus
@2liberal: There are football thread trolls? I suppose it is Rule 34.5: If it exists on the internet, someone trolls it.
J.Ty
me update: Got the emergency benzo’s from the MD and picked up some Picamilon from the hippie store while I was at it. Wow, that stuff seems to be working really well. Or it’s just an active placebo. Either way, the GABA thing is a well-recognized pathway for anxiety disorders, and shoving some into your brain theoretically blah blah better than benzo’s if it’s working.
Sblech. Stupid brain.
smintheus
@Omnes Omnibus: Incredibly bad bounce off a stanchion, pure bad luck. GWG served up on a platter.
Omnes Omnibus
@smintheus: Pucks bounce. Kane’s goal was well done.
@J.Ty: Good for you.
JenJen
@smintheus: The puck, it bounces. Capitalizing on said predictable puck bounce wins games.
Hockey.
Comrade Mary
1) I’ve just started watching The Good Wife from the beginning. It was a little procedurally pat in the first few episodes, but by S01E13, it really started getting more complex.
2) Ford has passed the baton for national embarrassment to Bieber again. /sigh
S. cerevisiae
On the bright side, the Wild have some great young talent and they really showed it. Haula is awesome even if he was a Gopher. And next year we can be rid of the anchor that is Heatley.
max
@smintheus: Well Lundqvist had a good series last year against the Bruins. Still lost.
Yeah, but he’s been on fire this year, which is how you get a deep playoff run.
Agreed that Fleuryâs weak in the playoffs, but you have to have a coherent team in front of your goaltender.
True enough. So trade Crosby to the Rangers for Brad Richards and send Fleury to the Ducks for that Anderson kid.
max
[‘They’d come out ahead on that deal.’]
Alison
Never watched United States of Tara but I do <3 Toni Collette. I even watched a fucking Cameron Diaz movie because she was in it too.
max
@S. cerevisiae: On the bright side, the Wild have some great young talent and they really showed it. Haula is awesome even if he was a Gopher.
Oh, the Wild did surprisingly well. They need another piece or two and they should be set.
max
[‘Chicago is going to beat whomever they face in the conference final, so it’s not a stupid loss.’]
MattR
@MomSense: Life was actually the first show that popped into my head as I read maeve’s comment. I loved the premise and the cast. Some bumps in the second season, but overall a very solid, underrated show.
SatanicPanic
So I was arguing with some racist moron on the internet and he directed me to Nicholas Wade- apparently TIME magazine thinks that publishing the work of people who think race determines things like how well you manage your money is a good idea. WTF? How did this bullshit escape my attention?
Fucking TIME, the other Newsweek. Circling the drain. Seriously:
It’s reasonable!
smintheus
@Omnes Omnibus: Did I take anything away from Kane? I said it was a crap ending. You don’t want a game or series like that ending because of a bizarre bounce any more than due to a blown call by the refs. Yeah yeah, refs are part of the game just as stanchions are.
Roger Moore
@Suffern ACE:
I think the green is ever so much more stylish than the black.
Roger Moore
@Comrade Mary:
Can we deport the fucker already?
ranchandsyrup
@MomSense: I’m still mad that NBC cancelled Life.
Omnes Omnibus
@smintheus: The puck bounced. Kane got it. If he hadn’t executed the backhander perfectly, the game would have continued. The bounce didn’t end the game; Kane’s shot did.
J.Ty
@Omnes Omnibus: Oh, and the MD turned out to be my good college buddy’s brother. Complicated last name, so they just called him “Dr. O” over the phone. Was expecting a Korean guy or something but nope. He introduces himself and I’m like “any relation to F—– O———?” And he’s like “Uh, well, he’s my brother…”
Roger Moore
@SatanicPanic:
It is reasonable to ask, but you’d better be damn sure about the answer before you publish anything. It is definitely irresponsible to speculate.
maeve
Life on Mars – the UK version – was the reason I signed onto Amazon Prime for the video – no longer free there – possibly the reason I like it is the music is from the era I was a young’un (David Bowie Life on Mars is on the sound track but it also had UK hits I didn’t know about – Thin Lizzie (an Irish Metal band had a hit in the UK with a cover of “Whisky in the Jar in 1973 – the place it fits in the sound track is perfect)
Omnes Omnibus
@J.Ty: Since you are recovering from some issues, I’ll be decent and decline to put in a link to “It’s a Small World After All.” You are welcome.
maeve
@MomSense:
I’ve seen an episode or two of Life (when i was on in fact) – and like Psych it didn’t click enough with me to want to binge-watch it – I go back to it now and then and like it, but am not obsessed with it. (That’s just me)
ETA – shows you don’ t want to binge-watch are good – Chuck is one I’m watching more slowly now – not short-lived so it will last me a while :)
wasabi gasp
This is not* Hillary’s new campaign commercial.
*sadly
J.Ty
@Omnes Omnibus: Haha thanks. You’re a peach Omnes.
Obviously this is preliminary evidence but if this keeps up I think I can pop back into work on Monday…
moderateindy
US o Tara was excellent, just not as good as Kaner’s OT winner. Man did Oduya suck tonight.
Good netflix watching, Warehouse 13, and I really liked Merlin which surprised me, but it was fairly humorous, and had some attractive women with lots of cleavage, if you like that sort of thing, which I do.
Omnes Omnibus
@wasabi gasp: More than vaguely disturbing. On so many levels.
JenJen
@smintheus: Pretty much every series that goes to OT ends in such fashion, a bad bounce followed by an opportunistic goal. It’s hockey.
Imagine how you’d feel if some Wild player had the same chance and missed the damned shot.
If you really love hockey, you have to live with bouncing pucks. I can’t imagine anyone who follows hockey closely thinking tonight’s result was weird or not fun or unusual.
SatanicPanic
@Roger Moore: I’m not sure what this dude’s credentials are, but his article is full of dubious conclusions. He’s also publishing a book, so I expect mountains of fluffery from the usual suspects.
Steeplejack
@Botsplainer:
Oh, yeah. Although in this 24 she appears to be a serious, non-glamorous intelligence analyst.
goblue72
@MomSense: Life is one of my top “cancelled far too soon” shows. Damien Lewis and Sarah Shahi? More please. Its right up there with Deadwood, my #1 cancelled too soon show.
Omnes Omnibus
@JenJen:
Every sport has some form of this. Hell, I was out running once and tripped over a paving stone, did a forward roll, and came back up in stride. I could not do that if I tried, but I did. Sometimes weird shit happens.
srv
Watch something intellectual, like an Anime.
Attack on Titan is on flix.
Omnes Omnibus
@srv: Rock Monster is on SyFy.
Mnemosyne
@J.Ty:
Don’t knock the placebo effect, especially when it comes to brain issues. If it works because you think it’s working, that means it’s working.
@goblue72:
“Pushing Daisies.” I don’t know how much longer they could have sustained it, but two seasons was much, much too short.
srv
@Omnes Omnibus: You cable vultures are doing the best that you can.
Steeplejack
@goblue72:
I like Sarah Shahi in Person of Interest. She has been as good addition (as has Amy Acker).
But I’m still sad that Taraji P. Henson left.
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
The original Grey Gardens (1975) coming up on TCM at 2:00 EDT.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack: Well, sure, if you want “good” movies.
schrodinger's cat
Question for the BJ Hive Mind: Should I submit to the rituals my MIL wants me to perform?
They will be in Sanskrit and I won’t understand what the heck I am doing. Also too, she thinks that all the ills that have befallen on her family (husband’s death, problems with her daughter’s marriage, and any illnesses in the family) are because I did not perform some rituals on the exact day her father chosen, instead of defending my thesis in nuclear physics.
I am in India after more than 10 years and she said this in our first meeting.
ETA: My friends and family over here think that I should just go along with her. Husband kitteh says that it is my decision.
Roger Moore
@SatanicPanic:
I’m confident that he’s in the idle, poorly supported speculation camp rather than the serious study camp. Not to knock idle, poorly supported speculation. It can be fun when you’re speculating about something trivial, but not when absurd theories on the topic have resulted in people being killed.
max
@Omnes Omnibus: More than vaguely disturbing. On so many levels.
Of course Wasabi found that.
And if he’s going to lay on dirty hits like that, we’ll have to do something about it.
max
[‘HIT SOMEBODY!’]
Mnemosyne
@schrodinger’s cat:
Hm, tough decision. If you really think that it will get her off your back and stop complaining about what you didn’t do 10 years ago, it might be worth it just to get her to STFU. But if it could be just one more chance for her to come up with a way to put you in the wrong, then it’s not worth it.
Omnes Omnibus
@schrodinger’s cat: I went to Romanian monasteries and churches and washed my hands in sacred springs and such like at the behest of my m-i-l – all the while believing not a bit of it but finding some of the architecture interesting. I tend to be willing to go along with empty formalities for politeness sake, but I won’t do things that could be considered a profession of a faith I do not have.
wasabi gasp
@Omnes Omnibus:
Same girl, Brie Larson, doing a track for a movie: The Clash at Demonhead – Black Sheep
They’re kinda working a Pixies vibe thing.
Roger Moore
@schrodinger’s cat:
It’s worth jumping through some hoops to keep the family peace. If it will actually satisfy your MIL and not just result in more hoops, and if it’s not something really awful for you, you should probably do it.
Omnes Omnibus
@wasabi gasp: Scott Pilgrim. Cool.
ETA: More accurately Envy Adams. Cool.
schrodinger's cat
@Omnes Omnibus: This is going to be a multi-hour torture session with the family priest chanting in Sanskrit, making offerings to the fire in the month of May with temperatures of 90+. I can’t help but think that this is something she has come up with to torture me.
This is an accurate representation of her
some guy
al Qaeda haz a sad, godless secularists return to their obliviated homes and still pitch tents. score one for the good guys
Joseph Nobles
Ah, United States of Tara. It was part of what I called Showtime’s “Bad Mommy” comedies – Weeds being the first, and Nurse Jackie coming to play along with Tara. I wish it had gotten one more season. Now all that’s left is Nurse Jackie, which is still rocking the house.
schrodinger's cat
@Roger Moore:
See that is what I am not sure of. Last year my husband was in India for 10 days to perform rituals for his father’s death anniversary, he did everything she wanted but this year she was guilt-tripping him and fighting with him because he could not come this year for the second anniversary. She is an impossible woman.
some guy
Loveday Morris, at least slightly less sycophantic than Liz Sly, but yet like her and the Times Anne Barnard, fiercely proud of their ignorance of Arabic:
Omnes Omnibus
@schrodinger’s cat: Are you a practicing member of the religion? If not, I think saying you believe it is not appropriate for you to take part is acceptable. I don’t take communion at a Catholic wedding that includes a mass. I don’t do the holy water/cross thing when entering a Catholic church. And so on….
Morzer
@schrodinger’s cat:
Sounds suspiciously as if this is more about her feeling bad about her life than anything you have done or will do. I doubt you can ever fully placate her, no matter what you do. Personally, I’d be inclined to say to her that she is welcome to perform whatever rituals she might choose, but that you don’t share her beliefs, so it would be inappropriate for you to join in.
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
Good, yes, but weird.
Omnes Omnibus
@some guy: Washington Post. It is still rude not to fucking provide the link. Just off hand, do you not provide citations in your academic work?
schrodinger's cat
@Omnes Omnibus: No I am not a practicing Hindu. I like the cultural aspects with the exception of the misogynist traditions.
Steeplejack
@schrodinger’s cat:
What do you know about the content of the rituals? I would probably lean toward going along for the sake of family comity unless the rituals are some sort of âI screwed upâ atonement thing. What has my spidey sense tingling is that your MIL has set up rituals that you have to do. Whatâs up with that?
some guy
David Ignatius and Zawahiri both agree, al Qaeda dissidents are bad news. Cacti and Cassidy will be sad to hear the newz:
schrodinger's cat
@Morzer: You are right, she is a capable ambitious woman thwarted by tradition and patriarchy and she is enormously unhappy. She wants me to perform the said rituals because as a widow she can no longer perform them according the strict rules she adheres too.
some guy
David Ignatius, in today’s Pravda on the Potomac, pimping for the “moderate al Qaeda elements” of the al-Nusrah Front:
everything old is new again
some guy
@Omnes Omnibus:
hey, how’s your paralegal doing these days? has the firm decided to provide her adequate childcare yet?
schrodinger's cat
@Steeplejack: I know nothing about the actual content of the rituals. That’s what I am trying to find out right now.
My parents have long since accepted my non-believing self and never made me do anything I didn’t believe in. They think that spirituality and religion cannot be forced.
wasabi gasp
@max: That’s pretty hardcore, Max. I’m feeling a little wobbly.
Omnes Omnibus
@some guy: I have no paralegal. I do, however, know that citation to sources is important – unlike some.
Morzer
@schrodinger’s cat:
Well, if it’s the case that she can’t do them, I suppose I would be inclined to do them for her in the hope that it might bring her some comfort. If these rituals are the only thing she has to cling to for some sort of spiritual solace, I would try to grit my teeth and go through with it. I suspect that it might make your husband’s life a bit easier if you did.*
*Note that this is internet advice from someone who has never met any of the people involved, so may well be hopelessly wrong. If it is, apologies in advance and please don’t track me down with a cleaver.
some guy
did we ever get an adequate count of how many “actual” trade unionists were burned alive in the House of Trade Unions last week in Odessa? BJ Center Right Fight Club said “few” but Vegas said “many” and to tell you the truth we have yet to see an accurate count of how many “actual” trade unionists were burned alive in the House of Trade Unions last week in Odessa. I am sure Joe Biden’s son, now on board for gas exports from Ukraine, can get right to the bottom of how many “actual” trade unionists were burned alive in the House of Trade Unions last week in Odessa.
or maybe some paralegal somewhere, if and when she gets actual childcare so she can fire up the Gazoogle.
cretins unite, you have nothing to lose but billable hours
schrodinger's cat
@Morzer: No I won’t hunt you down with a cleaver, may be. Its not even the rituals, I think it is her that I am vary of. I have no love lost for her, she is dictatorial and one of those people who use religion as cudgel to browbeat others.
Morzer
@schrodinger’s cat:
Does she have anything in her life which brings her genuine happiness, or does she just spend her time making other people miserable? My maternal grandmother had a considerable talent for making other people’s lives a misery by imposing her standards on them, but I doubt she had many days when she genuinely enjoyed her life.
ruemara
The dentist sewed my cheek to my gum accidentally. I’ve had my mouth attached in the wierdest way to a length of surgical… something. Now it feels like he made little folds behind my molar and I have this wide gap somewhere around the 2nd to last molar. I’m am not grinning widely until I’m sure I don’t have a half face of rictus skeletal grin. Bah! Is that the best you can do? *grumble* On the other hand, I am now looking less like Karl Malden’s browner twin sister on one half of my face.
schrodinger's cat
@Morzer: I have always seen her with a basset hound like hang dog expression. She is intelligent and can make good conversation when she so desires. I cannot speak to what brings her happiness, though.
Omnes Omnibus
@ruemara: I don’t picture you with that nose. Just sayin’.
Morzer
@schrodinger’s cat:
Well, I would try and figure out what interests her or what she enjoys other than rituals and see if you can find some common ground. I suppose I would do the ritual stuff as a gesture of goodwill and hope that it persuaded her to relax and be happier.
schrodinger's cat
@ruemara: Ouch, dental work can be a real pain, hope you feel better soon.
NotMax
Fargo rocks, but tonight’s episode was somewhat weak tea*, albeit a necessary transitional breather to set up for the final four episode home stretch.
*Could also partially be because of a different director, who seems more partial to foreclubbing than to foreshadowing.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)
Blaming Fleury for the Penguins problems means that you haven’t let go of previous years rather than analyzing what just happened. He was fine in this series. The problem is that his team stopped scoring. And, really, who are you going to replace him with? Ryan Miller at a ridiculous price after he was mediocre in his own team’s early playoff exit? Jonas Hiller, who just lost his playoff job to a guy who’d played a total of three games in the NHL? Jaroslav Halak, who the Blues replaced at exorbitant cost with Miller?
There aren’t any franchise goalies available. And you’re already committed to paying Fleury $5 million next year and if you decide that he’s not worth it, why do you think anyone is going to take him off your hands without charging you for the privilege?
Pittsburgh’s solutions are going to have to come elsewhere. My advice would be finding a third line that can actually get something done and a fourth line that isn’t cringe inducing. I’m not a big fan of the Penguins defensive corps, either. I’ve loved Paul Martin since he was a Gopher but he can’t stay healthy. And before you sign Matt Niskanen to a big contract, remember that he’s a St. Cloud State Husky. They never win anything.
srv
Alec Baldwin arrested on bike, the Bieber wanted by cops again, and rock-ribbed Australians to raise pensioner age to 70.
America has it so good.
some guy
ANNE LAURIE, ANNE LAURIE
To the white couRtesy telephone\
some guy
In the Clapper case, a group of plaintiffs challenged the constitutionality of the FISA Amendments Act of 2008. It permits the N.S.A. to intercept Americansâ international emails and phone calls on the domestic network and without a warrant as long as the target of the surveillance is a noncitizen located abroad.
The Obama administration argued that the plaintiffs lacked standing because they could not prove their communications had been intercepted. The justices voted 5 to 4 to dismiss the case.
Writing for the majority, Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. recited two claims made by the government: The Justice Department must notify criminal defendants who faced evidence derived from such surveillance, and the N.S.A., to intercept the Americansâ communications without a warrant, must target their foreign contacts for surveillance. But both claims have come under scrutiny in the recent focus on N.S.A. activities.
It emerged that the Justice Department was not notifying defendants in situations when warrantless surveillance had led in turn to a wiretap order on an individual that produced evidence used in court.
some guy
Grammar Denoting or relating to a voice of verbs in which the subject undergoes the action of the verb (e.g., they were killed as opposed to he killed them). The opposite of active.
Anne Laurie
@schrodinger’s cat:
I don’t know the Hindu rituals/temple culture at all, but would it be useful for you to talk to her family priest?
My Nana was the Irish Catholic version of your MiL — she had three daughters (whose first failure to her was, as she saw it, not being sons). The first two each married the first man they dated, and the youngest ran away & joined the Marines (age 17, in the early 1950s). But the happiest & most productive I ever saw Nana was when she was in charge of the Ladies’ Sodality at her church, where she got to boss everyone around. She did work very hard at organizing, bookkeeping, making sure every church festival ran efficiently and that every parish emergency in the congregation [sick kids, dead spouses, house fires] was swiftly met with babysitting rosters, funeral arrangements, temporary housing & clothing donations.
If her family priest is approachable, surely there must be local equivalents where she can use all the talents she’s wasting on collecting grievances? Parenting classes for teenagers, perhaps, or setting up child care arrangements so busy young couples don’t have an excuse to scant their religious duties?
schrodinger's cat
@Anne Laurie: In Hinduism, the focus of the religious activity is the home rather than the temple. She does what your Nana did for her huge extended family but her bossiness makes her advances somewhat unwelcome. My SIL who is separated (no divorce please, we are TamBrams) lives with her now. SIL is a pathologist by trade, but emotionally she is stunted child who MIL has ground down underfoot.
Anne Laurie
@schrodinger’s cat: Oh dear. Well, at least you (and your husband!) have the consolation of living on the other side of the world, so you can at least count down the hours until your escape…
Would it be worth talking to the family priest, and asking if there wasn’t a local charity that could use her vast organizational talents so that such a pious lady’s devotion wouldn’t be wasted?
J.Ty
Will nobody talk to me about anxiety disorders?
schrodinger's cat
@J.Ty: Are you teasing me ?
JoyfulA
@SatanicPanic: You could call him a Commie. It all sounds Lamarckian to me.
gene108
@schrodinger’s cat:
I assume your MIL knows about your religious beliefs. If she understands this is a one shot deal, going along with it may not lead to a slippery slope. Also, the ceremony is scheduled, so whether your participate or not the thing is on.
Your MIL, I assume, understands this will not change your religious beliefs, therefore the issue is if you do it this one time, will she agree to not push her beliefs after this ceremony is over.
@schrodinger’s cat:
As the shradam ceremony is an annual thing, she has a point from her point of view about your husband needing to do it in year two, even though going to India to do it is a stretch, since he could do it at the local temple.
@schrodinger’s cat:
Have a cousin, who got divorced. Wife went along with the marriage and then said she already has a boyfriend and wants out.
If you think the divorces in the U.S. are litigious, India is worse by orders of magnitude. Took about 5 years to have the marriage annulled.
From what I’ve seen, with the few cases of divorce in India, I can see putting of a formal divorce from a purely logistical stand point to avoid the legal aggravation.
Thlayli
@JenJen:
Three O6 in the final four. The league office must be happy about that (O6 = ratings).
So naturally that means Anaheim is going to win the Cup….
Suffern ACE
@SatanicPanic: is it just me, or does that sound like Christians taking credit for the presence of any Smart Jew.
Y’all never would have had your Einstein if my people hadn’t kept persecuting his ancestors.
schrodinger's cat
@gene108: The ceremony is to be performed by me and MIL is still waiting for my yes to schedule it.
I know it is, but most people even in her family make it a humongous religious deal only for the first year.
SIL marriage has been on the rocks since 2008 and both MIL and SIL go on pretending like the estranged husband is going to come back. They are deluded on this score.
schrodinger's cat
@gene108: The ceremony is to be performed by me and MIL is still waiting for my yes to schedule it.
I know that you do observe a remembrance every year, but most people, and even those in her family make it a humongous religious deal only for the first year.
SIL’s marriage has been on the rocks since 2008 and both MIL and SIL go on pretending like the estranged husband is going to come back. They are deluded on this score.
smintheus
@JenJen: I’ve been playing hockey since 1967, but thanks for your concern about my awareness of the game. You don’t seem to read what I wrote with your repeated references to “bouncing pucks”. It is the strange and unpredictable ricochet off a stanchion, putting the puck directly in front of the goal in OT, that made this a crap ending. Duh.
J R in WV
@schrodinger’s cat:
If her son thinks it’s up to you, then don’t do it. Bad things happen all the time, just like good things. If she can’t assign credit for good things to you already, she never will.
This looks like a lose lose event to me. I decided early on that my MIL was crazy, and never gave her a chance to get me into her world. She never let her kids call her Mom, it showed a total lack of respect… how crazy is that?
Your MIL is crazy, don’t help her in that role.
smintheus
@JenJen:
That’s quite a failure of imagination: