Holy shit.
We've hit peak Daily Caller RT @DailyCaller: Ronald Reagan vs. Kate Upton..who's hotter? http://t.co/9ezOnvtd6H pic.twitter.com/bM2optC0ac
— Ian Millhiser (@imillhiser) May 14, 2014
Both were models and actors and both are super hot. Both rocked swimsuits and liked to ride horses. Only one of them was ever the President of the United States â so far.
But the question remains, who is hotter, Reagan or Upton?
Check out these photos and decide for yourself in our poll.
I voted “It’s a toss up.”
ThresherK
Wasn’t the quote at one time “No, it’s Jimmy Stewart for president, Ronald Reagan for best friend!”
Hunter Gathers
Of course Conservatives are going to find Reagan hotter. Sure, Ms. Upton may have more physical beauty, but nothing causes a Conservative to go from flaccid to ready to launch faster than some good, old fashioned bigotry. All Chris Christie has to do to get millions of Conservatives to reach for the lotion and tissue paper is to talk about those strapping young bucks and their Cadillac driving queens.
kbuttle
Thus their long ascent to relevancy continues.
hartly
I dunno. Hard to compare without a youtube of Reagan doing the cat daddy in a swimsuit.
Zam
Holy shit this Reagan idolatry needs to stop.
Roger Moore
I have a better chance of having sex with Kate Upton, which will serve as a tie breaker. Sorry Republicans.
Amir Khalid
This question would seem to be a no-brainer. I mean, there’s no way I’d do RR, even if he were in his 20s and I were that way inclined. But this isn’t really about who has more sex appeal, is it?
OzarkHillbilly
Neither.
hartly
@Roger Moore: Actually you might have a better chance with Reagan, if you can find out where he’s buried.
Belafon
Whenever someone gets pissed because you keep talking about Republican Reagan worshipping, just show them this.
Roger Moore
@hartly:
Isn’t Reagan buried on the grounds of his Presidential Library, or is that only Nixon? In either case, it brings a new meaning to skull fucking.
hartly
@Zam: I used to think that, but now it’s actually starting to get amusing. Anyway, I think in a generation Reagan worship will die out. The same people who turned on Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Hoover aren’t going to idolize Reagan forever, seeing as how he was Mr. Tax-hike and Compromise with the ruskies and all.
ronin122
Oh yeah, forbidden wingnut man-love. I wonder if there exists a subgenre of homoerotic or gay erotic literature specifically targeted to closeted teabaggers.
Seriously though, do they not realize that their idol worship of St. Ronnie is not only against their supposed religious convictions but also kinda creepy?
Omnes Omnibus
Well, on second thought, let’s not go to
Camelotthe Daily Caller. It is a silly place.Hunter Gathers
@Roger Moore
You sure about that? I’m pretty sure that a donation in the right dollar amount to either the RNC or any of the other Republican fundraising arms could get you some personal time with his corpse, no questions asked.
the Conster
I seriously was surprised to read Upton – I was sure it was gonna be Putin.
Belafon
@ronin122: Yeah, but the Reagan they worship is sitting at the left hand of Jesus, right between him and God. It’s definitely not the one that existed.
StringOnAStick
The Daily Irrelevancy. My God, Tucker, you ARE a moron.
dubo
This is even more hilarious when you remember that Tucker so badly wants Daily Caller to be the “serious, intelligent” online conservative journal
KG
@Roger Moore: Nixon is buried (presumably in silver chains with a crucifix on his chest, just in case). Reagan has an above ground tomb thingy, I think.
Anoniminous
Until Kate Upton plays second billing to a chimpanzee The Gipper is first in my heart!
(not)
grape_crush
> I voted âItâs a toss up.â
More like, “It’s a toss off.”
ranchandsyrup
Take me away to paradise.
When masturbation to zombie reagan has lost its fun
You’re fucking lonely.
Quaker in a Basement
I’ve heard it said that Reagan had a nice little caboose on him.
Anoniminous
@ranchandsyrup:
I could have happily lived the rest of my life without THAT particular image running around my brain.
wasabi gasp
OT: Badass cat saves boy from dog.
srv
@hartly: Reagan was just too liberal for me.
ranchandsyrup
@Anoniminous: sorry ’bout that. just modifying the song lyrics.
MattF
@Roger Moore: Now, here I was assuming that RR was entombed in a pyramid. The Great Ron-a-gon, I guess.
ETA: Pardon me, the Great Ron-a-hedron
Chyron HR
The internet assures me that Kate Upton is “fat” and “flabby” so I guess Reagan wins by default.
raven
@wasabi gasp: Oh cool an OT. Here’s a DRONE video of the boat I went on last week. This was shot the day before I went out.
ronin122
@Belafon: When did it ever matter to a wingnut whether or not their views and admirations were grounded in reality? Sure the fiscal conservative nonsense is a myth but they love him just as much for his running on the southern strategy and hating “them colored folk”, which was absolutely true. Make the right dog whistles and nothing else will matter to a bigoted asshole.
Belafon
@ronin122: But, you see, he’s part of the trinity (no one really cared for the holy ghost anyway).
piratedan
pretty much depends on how Kate feels about Benghazi… that’s a deal breaker for most of the folks over there unless it can be proven that she’s sleeping with a Conservative member of the C Street Klan, then that would make everything A-OK, Christian conservative values regarding the sanctity of marriage and all that.
raven
@Belafon: Bell pepper. onion and celery!
taylormattd
LOL
Comrade Mary
Fuck this noise. Here’s a hero cat saving her boy from an attacking dog.
Thoughtcrime
Who is hotter?
Well, Reagan wins the steaming pile of shit category.
raven
@Comrade Mary: Um, it was posted upstream.
El Caganer
So this is the item that “lolwut?” was invented to describe….
Comrade Mary
@raven: Repeat as needed for healing. That kind of cat you don’t post just once.
Client giving me an impossible deadline? “Fuck you. Here’s a heroic cat.”
SUV decides to pass me within inches? “Fuck you. Here’s a heroic cat.” (May require heroic cat on a stick).
NonyNony
This is self-parody right? Daily Tucker is making fun of itself now, right?
…
RIGHT?
raven
@Comrade Mary: Got it.
chopper
@Anoniminous:
it appears you haven’t seen ‘the other woman’.
Thoughtcrime
How long before the Reagan sex doll? Offered in different ages and outfits.
Hungry Joe
Nature/nurture, yeah, yeah — I know that upbringing and environment are huge influences. But I cannot, in my wildest imagining, come up with a Tucker Carlson that isn’t, as John Stewart put it, “a dick.” Tucker Carlson a pink-diaper baby in a union family? He’d turn out to be a dick. Tucker Carlson born to a single mother in Oregon? A dick. Tucker Carlson born a semi-nomadic Masai on the African savannah? A dick.
Go ahead — try it yourself: Tucker Carlson born a (blank)?
See? You come up with “dick” every time.
evolved beyond the fist mistermix
Wait while I consult my plethysmograph.
Comrade Mary
@evolved beyond the fist mistermix: Heh.
japa21
Well, I always found intellect to be attractive, so I guess I have to go with Upton.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
That whole premise is deeply disturbing. I don’t find the hetero-homosexual thing worrisome; I know that more or less 58.4% of Republicans are closeted. It’s the necrophilia angle that I find a little creepy. I guess I just don’t get the appeal, though, not being a Republican.
raven
@Comrade Mary: Awful lot of angles for a surveillance video.
geg6
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Holy shit, these people are alien life forms, I swear.
Comrade Mary
@raven: Two cameras on the house, facing front and side. Looked legit to me.
Alex S.
Who is hotter?
Also, why Kate Upton? Ah I see, her uncle is a prominent republican.
A Humble Lurker
That picture does not make it better.
Roger Moore
@KG:
I actually visited Nixon’s grave shortly after he was buried there. It was for a class on “Presidential Mythography”, which meant I wasn’t given an opportunity to piss on it.
Anton Sirius
Who’s hotter? Given the Reagan is burning in hell and all, he’s the easy winner.
schrodinger's cat
Who is Kate Upton?
The Moar You Know
Upton? The one who recently did the photo shoot in NASA’s “Vomit Comet”?
Male heterosexuals and others who like a smoking hot woman, have a look at that photo shoot and then see if you can remember anything about Reagan. I’m coming up with nothing save for “zero-G sex is now on my bucket list”, myself.
SatanicPanic
@Hungry Joe: Agreed, but it is fun to imagine Tucker suffering.
Also, what’s up with Tuckers? Are they all dicks?
JGabriel
Jesus H. Christ on pogo stick*, John Rogers and Tyrone are bloody geniuses. There’s that number again:
Chalk up another notch for the Crazification Factor.
(*Why a pogo stick?)
MattR
@The Moar You Know: “Have sex with Kate Upton” was already on the bucket list. The presence or absence of gravity is but a minor detail.
Hungry Joe
@SatanicPanic: A Tucker Ashford played for the Padres in the mid-’70s. Infielder, kind of no-field, no-hit. (It was the Padres. It was the mid-’70s.) Can’t remember if he was a dick or not.
Eric U.
@The Moar You Know: I think I like her better with more gravity. And just about any gravity gives her more gravitas than Reagan
sparrow
Is this an open thread? Oh well, I’m posting anyway:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Opm9b2WDk
Huge ass cat saves a kid being bit by a dog. That’s a big kitty. I wonder if it’s an MC?
scav
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): Zombie craze plus Putin Mania mashup? Two memes for the price of one? Add a tweet and a hashtag and it’s #thebeeskneeshepkatdaddy-o! nah, not a clue either. Photoshop some sideboob and grizzly on the icon.
Cacti
Here’s the real Ali vs. Frazier question for the right wing…
What makes them harder: Ronald Reagan’s wrinkled face and grecian-formula’d pompadour or Vladimir Putin’s shirtless man ta-tas?
Gene108
@hartly:
Reagan opened the door for the Moral Majority and its spawn that currently infect our politics to have a seat at the political table.
Even Sen. Goldwater*, who was still in theSenate when Reagan took office, in 1981, thought it was nuts to give fundies poltical power.
It really does not matter Reagan actually did in office or what he advocated for, such as global nuclear disarmament, because what matters is that the reason the fundies control the Republican Party is because of Reagan. Nothing else matters, because the Reagan worship is a veneer of how to show gratitude to giving your crazy ideas** a chance to infect the mainstream.
* I believe Goldwater recommended Sandra Day O’Connor for the Supreme Court.
** home schooling comes to mind as something that went from WTF? To acceptable because of fundies political pressure.
gogol's wife
“Green balloons” thread, so: a darling student just came by to drop off her final paper, and also brought me a present — a copy of Atlas Shrugged, her favorite novel (which I said in class I hadn’t read).
raven
@sparrow: The cat ain’t that big. We had one down the block called “were-cat”. It would fly off the porch after dogs and they would skeedaddle. It’s all in who gets the jump.
MattR
@Cacti: Oh God. What terrible images you are putting in my head. Thankfully the Kate Upton photos that The Moar You Know linked to should be an antidote.
raven
@gogol’s wife: Cool. you have time to drop her grade!
Belafon
@sparrow: You’re the third one.
KG
@Roger Moore: I grew up in Yorba Linda, my high school was just around the corner and we got days off of school when they opened the library and for the funeral. So, as I saw it in high school, Nixon did two good things. Went to the library a couple of times, including for my AP government class. The original Watergate “room” was interesting – specifically designed to get you to not spend time in it.
raven
@Belafon: And no one has looked at my drone/fishing video. Fuck a buncha cats.(Even though it’s really cool if it’s legit)
Cacti
@gogol’s wife:
Read it and follow up with something like “I can see why this is the best selling children’s book of all-time”.
SatanicPanic
@Cacti: A pragmatic right winger would have to go with man chee-chee’s Putin. Best of both worlds.
Klaus Kinky
Reminds me of that J.G. Ballard satirical bit…
D58826
The selection list is incomplete – they forgot Bonzo!
Elizabelle
@raven:
tee hee
Comrade Mary
@sparrow: THE HEALING CONTINUES.
D58826
@Gene108: The funny thing is the Reagan that is idolized by the current political right would be unrecognizable to the real Reagan. For example, given how Obama is criticized for talking to Putin, today’s conservatives would have their heads explode if they knew Reagan made nice to Gorbachov(sp?).
Belafon
@gogol’s wife: I have told my kids about Atlas Shrugged, and while i recommend a lot of books to them, that isn’t one of them. So, my 14 year old asked me the other day “Am I cynical enough to read it now?”
He’s also my mythology reader, and understands that the difference between a religion and mythology is whether the speaker observes it or not.
Elizabelle
@Cacti:
@gogolâs wife:
Could gogol’s wife anonymously mail John Rogers’ immortal take to this darling, but badly mistaken, student?
Is for her own damn good.
Source: Kung Fu Monkey
Gozer
@JGabriel:
I’m convinced that within that number lies the secrets of the universe. It appears way too often not to have some kind of significance on a cosmic scale. Maybe some kind of particle that causes human dickbaggery or mental illness or something.
Elizabelle
@gogol’s wife:
Don’t be telling yer students you aren’t keeping up with Bill O’Reilly’s books.
Killing [Brain Cells]
Schlemizel
@grape_crush:
I don’t know, it make me want to toss up!
Belafon
@Gozer: Well, it is half of 42. :)
hoodie
Upton definitely looks better on a horse, and exhibits superior skill by riding with no hands.
joel hanes
@Gene108:
Reagan opened the door for the Moral Majority
not to mention Iran-Contra, in which representatives of the US government secretly sold US armaments to known terrorists in an officially-hostile nation (Iran), in order to create an unConstitutional slush fund not appropriated by Congress, so that the Reagan Admin could secretly fund fascist death squads in allegedly sovereign Central American nations in an attempt to overthrow legally-elected governments — said fascist death squads then adopting such hearts-and-minds techniques as raping nuns before murdering them.
Fuck Reagan. Third worst president ever.
JGabriel
@KG:
So he can walk at night and drink the blood of willing minions who desire nothing more than to be penetrated by Reagan’s sacred
pe…teeth.rikyrah
@Deggans: Jill Abramson suddenly replaced as executive editor at New York Times by Dean Baquet. NYT’s 1st female editor replaced by 1st black editor
some guy
Al qaeda expelled from Homs, Christians begin returning to their town. Cacti may have a sad, but the rest of us should rejoice that Syrians have al Qaeda on the run.
? Martin
Obligatory McSweeneys, since Atlas Shrugged was referenced.
Our Daughter Isnât A Selfish Brat;
Your Son Just Hasnât Read Atlas Shrugged.
rikyrah
De Blasioâs Role Among Republicans: Nemesis
âThese folks can still party like itâs 1999,â said Peter Ragone, a senior adviser to Mr. de Blasio. âThe 21st century called and asked if they want to join us and help everyday Americans get ahead.â
By MICHAEL BARBARO and MICHAEL M. GRYNBAUM
MAY 14, 2014
Jeb Bush, a possible Republican presidential candidate, offered to help run a campaign to oust the new mayor in 2017. Bill OâReilly, the Fox News titan, said he wanted âto beat him up.â
And at a black-tie dinner a few nights ago, a billionaire donor to the Republican Party warned that under his stewardship, New York City risked becoming the âNew Havana.â
National Republicans, alarmed by the rising influence of activist liberals in government and eager to paint the Democratic Party as captive to its left wing, seem to have settled on an unlikely new nemesis: Bill de Blasio.
It is a startling turn for a municipal leader who was virtually unknown, even within New York, just a year ago, but now finds himself on the same conservative dartboard as far better established figures, like Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts and the occupant of the Oval Office.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/15/nyregion/de-blasios-role-among-republicans-nemesis.html?ref=nyregion&_r=2
some guy
@joel hanes: fascist goons overthrowing elected governments is back in Vogue these days.
MomSense
I still get upset when I see his face. The bottom line is that he made people feel good about being irresponsible, greedy, and cruel.
Tommy
I just had to Google Kate Upton. Sorry didn’t know who she was. Wow. I don’t think she is “fat.”
ranchandsyrup
Fuck me a wildfire started a mile and a half from our house. Wife and kids are out of town so rushing home to get dogs out of there. Thanks Al Gore
JPL
@ranchandsyrup: Take care and keep us updated.
MomSense
@ranchandsyrup:
Need brain bleach.
joel hanes
@some guy:
and I blame Reagan
MomSense
@ranchandsyrup:
OH NO!! Be safe and let us know what happens.
Dee Loralei
@ranchandsyrup: Wow be safe. And keep us informed.
? Martin
@ranchandsyrup: Be safe. Don’t take chances.
SiubhanDuinne
@ranchandsyrup:
I hope you are busy saving dogs and other valuables and that you don’t even see this message right now, but do please be safe and let us hear from you when you can.
SatanicPanic
@ranchandsyrup: Yikes, you’re like the third person I’ve heard say that today. This is going to be a rough week for a lot of people, hope things are OK
? Martin
The fire authority has been doing the most aggressive and extensive brush removal that I’ve ever seen around me. I think their experts have determined that everything is going to catch on fire this year. Our neighborhood is pretty well protected from fires – but we’re doing another full pass on getting our shit in order.
SatanicPanic
@? Martin: I was up in the Laguna Mountains this weekend and it was dry, but not as dry as I expected. The rains a couple weeks ago maybe helped. Or I could just be trying to be optimistic, hoping it’s not 2007 again.
Commenting at Balloon Juice since 1937
Has the phrase ‘jumped the shark’ been superceded by ‘polled Raygun’s swimsuit’ ?
Elizabelle
@rikyrah:
I wonder what’s up with that. It was so sudden, and no reason given.
JPL
@Elizabelle: It seems as though she finally pissed off the wrong or right person depending on your viewpoint.
David Hunt
@NonyNony:
Yes…but not intentionally.
gogol's wife
@raven:
She is the opposite of a libertarian, always doing things for others. I just don’t get it. Maybe it’s just a true literary passion.
jibeaux
Her swimsuits seem to be a size or three too small in that photo shoot.
gogol's wife
@Elizabelle:
I kind of had to admit it, because somebody brought it up in class in connection with Anna Karenina, so I couldn’t pretend I knew what they were talking about.
Amir Khalid
I happened to see this in the Grauniad, under the byline of legendary British journo John Pilger. Jonathan Chait reckons that Pilger’s full of it.
ranchandsyrup
Our neighbor called and fire is moving away from our house he has our dogs and everyone okay but I’m still going to get the dogs out of there. Dark and smoky and ashy
Amir Khalid
@ranchandsyrup:
Hope you and the puppehs stay safe. Check in with us when you can, so we won’t worry about you too much. You know how we are around here.
Hungry Joe
@ranchandsyrup: Let us know if you guys need a place to stay. Dogs might be problematic — we have cats — but we’ll figure something out.
gogol's wife
@rikyrah:
I actually went to Politico to see if they had any “insight.” None was forthcoming, but in the comments I learned that she was another casualty of the thuggish fascist Obama regime and its jackbooted minions.
The Moar You Know
@ranchandsyrup: Lost one employee out of the office today as he got put under evac, had to go get his kids. This is a lot closer to my house than I’d like, but we’ve no pets and I’m not a firefighter, so I’m staying put.
ETA: this is the driest year I can recall here since 1975. Kind of scary.
ranchandsyrup
@Hungry Joe: thanks HJ. You and yr lovely wife are good people. Had quite a few offers like this from friends and acquaintances. it restores my faith in humanity
scav
@ranchandsyrup: Good to hear and you’ve got good neighbors. Depending on the upcoming season, might be a good idea to share information on a critical box you and they can grab for each other in similar situations along with the pets.
ranchandsyrup
@The Moar You Know: good idea. Stay safe
jl
@the Conster:
” I was sure it was gonna be Putin ”
They knew throwing in Putin would make it close and produce angst among the faithful. Maybe Vlad will win on write-ins?
Hungry Joe
@ranchandsyrup: That’s all it took to restore your faith in humanity? Damn, you’re easy.
Ecks
No, ER.
TossERS.
Elizabelle
@ranchandsyrup:
What a great neighbor.
Hope you and the dogs and family continue to remain safe.
Cacti
@Amir Khalid:
Indeed, it’s basically our own BIP’s argument.
If you just overlook the many, obviously fascist characteristics of the Russian Federation, such as:
-Strongman authoritarian leadership/personality cult
-Hostility towards/censorship of free speech and press
-Hyper-nationalism
-Militarism
-Elevation of the State over the individual
-Discrimination/scapegoating of disfavored minority groups
-Aggressive, expansionist foreign policy against smaller nations
Putin is fighting the good fight against fascism.
catclub
@JGabriel: I worry about the people who say it is a toss-up.
? Martin
@SatanicPanic: Well, most of my neighbors, like us, have cut way back on watering so the residential lots are a bit brown. The city has cut back, and are now trimming trees aggressively so that the lack of water doesn’t cause them to break. It’s 96 here with 8% humidity and this is supposed to continue for 2 more days. This weekend will be better, but it’s not like its going to rain. If this continues to any extent this summer, everything will be flammable.
ranchandsyrup
@Hungry Joe: lol. Or humanity has been especially awful lately and lowered the bar.
Stuck on traffic. Grrrrr
Spike
I don’t have any direct evidence to support this, but I’d guess that Ms. Upton’s temperature is around 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit, while Mr. Reagan’s is almost certainly much lower than this. Based on this, it seems quite clear which is hotter.
Amir Khalid
@Cacti:
I know. For a minute there, I too wondered if John Pilger had moved to Portland.
Comrade Dread
I guess the 12th commandment for Republicans is that it’s not gay if you’re with Ronald Reagan.
Chyron HR
@Spike:
Oh, I hear it gets pretty damn hot down where Reagan is.
Calouste
@Cacti:
“Fighting against Fascism” brings back memories in Russia to the Great Patriotic War (known to you and me as WII). It’s a sacred phrase that now means the opposite of what it originally meant, but because of its history no one can criticize it. It’s the same with the phrase “Freedom” in the U.S., now almost exclusively used by extreme right-wing fascist wannabees. Orwell would be accused of plagiarism had he lived now.
Gin & Tonic
@Amir Khalid: In addition to Snyder’s counterpoint, mentioned by Chait, Anne Applebaum has an excellent piece dissecting the various claims about nationalists that we’ve heard here over the last few months. Both authors are people who really know their stuff about 20th century eastern Europe.
scav
Oh dear, this paper’s likely to get misapplied all over. Published in Nature, Main link is to the Guard, here’s a lifted link to abstract.
Water depletion in California ‘may be increasing chance of earthquakes’
Groundwater loss from demand for farming in the Central Valley is putting pressure on San Andreas fault, Nature paper says
abstract looks intriguing: seasonality in microseismicity, groundwater depletion, flexural uplift of the Coast Ranges (!) — geology’s got all sorts of things going on here apparently.
ABSTRACT
Trollhattan
@Tommy:
Now Google “Kate Upton weightless” [trust me]
Was Ronald Reagan ever weightless? I think NOT.
Trollhattan
@ranchandsyrup:
Glad to hear crisis averted for now. Nearly a hundred today here, with more to come. Waaaaaay early for such heat but such is the year we’re having. There is some suspicion the RRR (ridiculously resilient ridge) may be reforming. Scheiss!
http://www.weatherwest.com/archives/1474
Cacti
@Calouste:
It also omits the inconvenient part of Russian history where they actively collaborated with Nazi Germany prior to 1941.
Cacti
@Gin & Tonic:
The most recent polling for the May 25 presidential election puts Svoboda’s candidate between 1.5-1.9% of popular support.
So much for that “it’s a fascist coup” theory.
cckids
@joel hanes:
This. I’m currently reading Walsh’s “Firewall”, and have to keep stopping because it is just so infuriating. And the people who revere Reagan are going nuts about Benghazi. Jesus.
The Republic of Stupidity
@hartly: Or perhaps two wetsuits…
Villago Delenda Est
Ronald Reagan: Dogshit
Everyone at the Daily Caller: Also dogshit, particularly Fucker “I’m not gay but homosexuals in the DC Amtrak Station keep trying to suck my cock” Carlson.
The Republic of Stupidity
Well… it’s sure making me toss…
Comrade Mary
@Trollhattan: Weightless.
Another Holocene Human
@grape_crush:
Toss the cookies
Another Holocene Human
@rikyrah: The De Blasio campaign gave people hope. Can’t have that. Obliterate with extreme prejudice.
Fort Geek
@ronin122: Remember Rule 34: If it exists, there is porn of it.
That in mind: Political erotic slashfiction: From Russia With Lust (Reagan/Gorbachev)
You’re welcome…brain bleach dispensers for rent, $9.99, line starts to your left :)