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What’s on the agenda as the weekend wraps up?
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Come for the politics, stay for the snark.
Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?
If you tweet it in all caps, that makes it true!
Stop using mental illness to avoid talking about armed white supremacy.
He really is that stupid.
Spilling the end game before they can coat it in frankl luntz-approved dogwhistles.
Beware of advice from anyone for whom Democrats are “they” and not “we.”
Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.
Hot air and ill-informed banter
The party of Reagan has become the party of Putin.
Anyone who bans teaching American history has no right to shape America’s future.
Democrats are back in array!
Bark louder, little dog.
fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)
This has so much WTF written all over it that it is hard to comprehend.
Proof that we need a blogger ethics panel.
It’s a doggy dog world.
When your entire life is steeped in white supremacy, equality feels like discrimination.
The low info voters probably won’t even notice or remember by their next lap around the goldfish bowl.
Wow, I can’t imagine what it was like to comment in morse code.
Someone should tell Republicans that violence is the last refuge of the incompetent, or possibly the first.
They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.
This really is a full service blog.
‘Museums aren’t America’s attic for its racist shit.’
It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.
Elmo
To the community of dog lovers: there is a very sick Pyr in rescue whose bills are killing the organization. Not one of mine, for once, but National Pyr Rescue has put out the request for
donations.
Wag
A I guess we Dems need to get nasty and worl on obtaining BS, MS, and PhD on the GOP
Bull Shit
More Shit
Piled higher and Deeper
kindness
Obviously the MSM doesn’t have the energy to refute the very bullshit they continually pass along.
The Dangerman
If Soonergrunt swings by this thread and is a roundball fan, perhaps you’d like to share the OKC view on Russell Westbrook. Seems to me an incredible talent (UCLA Dude here, some bias admitted) but, damn, he is prone to some incredible brain cramps. End of OT last night, down 4, he jacks up a 3 that not only doesn’t hit the rim, it almost missed the backboard. Can’t recall a worse result on a big shot right now…
…anyway, Brooks should clearly be fired (but he might survive). I just wonder how long it will take RW to stop the wacky shit. He’s far too good a player….
lamh36
Wait, so they are doing another Night At The Museum, but we still waiting on another National Treasure movie….damn u Nick Cage!
” ‘Night at the Museum 3’ Has a New Title: ‘Secret of the Tomb”
http://news.moviefone.com/2014/05/06/night-at-the-museum-3-new-title/
MikeJ
@lamh36:
He’s been busy with Left Behind.
lamh36
Higgs Boson's Mate
@lamh36:
By golly, if there’s one franchise that has tons of room for fresh takes it’s “Night at the Museum.”
Good to see Stiller and Meara’s son picking up another paycheck anyway.
J.Ty
Is “Yossarian” a taken nym here? I might change to it.
lamh36
That Time Ronald Reagan Hosted Those ‘Freedom Fighters’ At The Oval Office
Amir Khalid
@Higgs Boson’s Mate:
What happened to those charming little family-oriented movies about the Fockers?
HinTN
@J.Ty: If all else fails, you could take Milo Minderbinder.
srv
David Brooks exists to drain DougJ’s troll force. I’m not sure who is Yin and who is Yang. There should be a song about that.
@J.Ty: Not in a couple of years.
J.Ty
@HinTN: He’s the one who made up for selling eggs at a loss by moving a high volume, right?
lamh36
Hmmm, maybe someone should ask McCain about that…..
Citizen_X
@srv:
It’s a war of attrition! And I’m afraid that Brooks may have infinite reserves of rightwing-horseshit-made-slightly-reasonable-sounding.
xenos
There is an old joke about prisoners getting so used to telling the same jokes that they started using numbers, and could make on another laugh by calling “19” or “27” or “82”.
One day, when I have the time, I want to organize and identify all the old debunked bullshit that gets circulated out there, so when some troll or blogger comes along and recycles a thrice disproven claim or argument we could just dismiss him with a “Oh yeah, we heard 63 before” and link him to a refutation. I would save a lot of time, in the end.
lamh36
I truly can’t believe the number of wingnuts going with the maligning the soldier and family option in all this…
wow.
Baud
@Citizen_X:
But DougJ has nyms. So many different nyms.
srv
@xenos: 101st + 27% = 42
Ash Can
Laundry this afternoon, then cardiac arrest watching the hockey game tonight. I may need a couple of shots of whiskey before the puck drops.
Randy P
@xenos: I heard it with “the comedians convention” but yours works too.
So one day a new [prisoner] after hearing how often “62” makes everybody laugh, tries it himself. “62” he says. Nobody laughs. “62” again. Grim silence. One more time: “62”. Finally he gives up and sadly turns away. One of his fellow [prisoners] taps him on the shoulder and whispers, “you told it wrong”.
Ruckus
@lamh36:
Easy to sit in your basement and throw verbal stones at someone who is in no position to fight back. It’s the modern version of an elementary school bully doing what they do.
J.Ty
I guess I could go with Major Major Major Major.
Dunno why I’m so into Catch-22 today.
Litlebritdifrnt
@Amir Khalid:
Has there ever been anything more juvenile than the “Fockers” movies, I mean the entire premise was based upon Americans two year old selves thinking they were getting something over on someone. I should imagine that the rest of the world looked at those movies and just shrugged their shoulders at the sheer immaturity of the supposed super power of the world.
Amir Khalid
@Ruckus:
I suspects what bemuses Iamh36 (it certainly bemuses me) is the whole Americans-begrudging-an-American-soldier-his-freedom thing.
lamh36
I mean wow. WTH is this Todd Kincannon guy? The dad of the soldier has a twitter account and schmucks like this have been tweeing it. I’m assuming more tweets are supportive, but still…wow!
lamh36
@Litlebritdifrnt: I admit to liking the original Meet the Parents. The sequels…not so much.
Baud
@lamh36:
I saw some of that guy’s tweets. Truly disgusting.
xenos
@Randy P: I heard it as “Son, you have the right idea, but you really have to work on your delivery…”
Ruckus
@Litlebritdifrnt:
Not sure about more juvenile, there certainly are many as juvenile examples.
Cervantes
@J.Ty:
It’s the best there is.
lamh36
@Baud: Yeah. I’m amazed actually, not surprised, but amazed at how quickly they’ve turned to “HOMELAND” like betrayor!! WTF?
Ash Can
@lamh36: I just saw on LGF what Kincannon tweeted. It’s beyond disgusting. It’s a cry for help.
Ruckus
@Amir Khalid:
Amuses is not the correct term. Surprises shouldn’t be either. Disgusts may be in the running but doesn’t go any where near far enough. Not amazes, stuns. Sickens, possibly. Makes this pacifist want to hurt people, now we are getting close.
? Martin
@lamh36: Todd Kincannon is a piece of work. IIRC, he’s a former GOP state chairman, and head of the South Carolina election commission.
Cervantes
@Ruckus: “Bemuse” and “amuse” are not synonymous.
Ruckus
@Cervantes:
Thanks! Misread that.
Still willing to go with my comment.
ETA That’s twice today. Maybe I need to get my eyes checked or I’m having too many senior moments.
Cervantes
@Ruckus: Yes, I know what you mean. Pacifism is never easy.
I am curious re his comment about the next US Attorney General.
Central Planning
@J.Ty:
“Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them. With Major Major it had been all three.”
catclub
@The Dangerman: I have no idea what will happen in OKC, but agree that Brooks has to go if they are to improve. If some coach could get RW’s attention and focus some of that energy and strength, that would be dangerous. They seem to say that making him cut down the stupid things would also cut down the energy and risk taking.
The only reason I have heard for keeping Brooks is that those guys play HARD for him, in spite of his not really being able to make them better. Or have plays, or manage timeouts at the end of games, or …
Can you imagine how good they would have been if Jackson and Adams had not been mostly benched for Perkins and Sefolosha? Until the Spurs ( and the Clippers) made it clear how useless those two were.
nancy darling
@lamh36: I’m pretty sure this is the same Todd Kincannon of South Carolina who called Nancy Pelosi a “cunt” in a tweet. Also he tweeted that an Iraq veteran turned anti-war activist should have come home in a body bag.
Ruckus
@Cervantes:
I just looked at his twitter feed. I didn’t get that far before I wanted to throw up. This fucker isn’t a piece of work, he is a complete and total piece of shit. I could smell how much he smells like shit through an internet connection, that’s how bad he stinks.
Linnaeus
On the agenda:
Some work, because my project manager gave me work to do over the weekend (with two days’ notice, thank you).
Beer
Watching, hopefully, the Blackhawks losing in a couple of hours.
Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers)
@nancy darling:
Yes, he is. He’s just an evil old thug that likes the attention and gets it by showing off his malevolent interior monologue to the world.
Ruckus
@nancy darling:
This asshole makes, well he can’t make republicans look much worse, but I’ll bet even at least a good sized portion of republicans would think he’s a total asshole.
sharl
Hmm, Todd Kincannon still gets attention? Figures, I suppose; outrage sells.
Wonkette pretty much gets to the dude’s basic, um, “character”, here. Note that the Wonkette post is safe for work – though that illustration at the top is a borderline call – but the link there to TK’s dick pic selfie is definitely not.
Remember that the SC GOP folks are the ones who spread the rumor about Johnny Walnuts (R-Palin Enabler) having a black child (in fact an adopted child from Bangladesh, IIRC, FWIW). These are folks who presumably attend church on Sunday, then on their way out leave whatever good lessons heard there stuffed between the pages of the hymnals they were using. Doublethink is doubleplusgood among those folks, and hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance are features, not bugs.
sharl
Oops, used a FYWP-verboten word; in FYWP lock-up…
WaterGirl
@Baud: I’m sending Tbogg the mind meld, hoping he’s in the mood for some public internet shaming like the treatment he gave another internet idiot a year or more ago. Maybe the guy was a Sandra Fluke hater? These disgusting, hateful creatures all kind of run together.
D58826
@Wag: I think Mark Twain said it first – ‘a lie is half way around the world before the truth gets it shoes on’. and that was in the era of print newspapers and horse drawn carriages.
Ash Can
@Ruckus: The only way the other Republicans can look worse after Kincannon’s tweets is by not publicly objecting to them. Specifically, the Republicans with whom he directly works and interacts on a regular basis need to very publicly ditch him.
Keith G
My agenda? Well aside from the usual many chores, I just noticed that today is the day that Amazon Prime opens up HBO’s back catalog for streaming.
I am fucking psyched.
Keith G
Yes, I am fucking psyched.
So psyched in fact, that my post doubled.
J.Ty
@Central Planning: A truncated version is my headline on Grindr.
Cacti
@The Dangerman:
Any time the zombie Sonics blow it in the playoffs, it brings a smile to my face.
No offense to Kevin Durant, who seems like a pretty good guy as far as pro athletes go. But their ownership can suck it.
Cacti
@catclub:
Give Durant/Westbrook/Ibaka to a coach like Popovich or Phil Jackson, and OKC would be a dynasty.
Anne Laurie
@WaterGirl:
Can’t be arsed to look it up, but I believe Todd Kincannon was the DumbThuglican that TBogg pilloried for what he said about Sandra Fluke. Certain rightwing elements in NC are attempting to steal SC’s fabled epithet — “too small for a republic, too large for an insane asylum”…
Tommy
@Keith G: Really. I signed up for Amazon Prime a few days ago. The goal, watching Deadwood from that start. Told me it would cost me like $1.95/show. I was like I’ll order that on Nextlix.
Botsplainer
I recently added my older, better equipped downtown YMCA to my membership for a whopping 4 bucks a month. It’s close to my office so I can more easily work out in the am and pop straight in, has heavy punching bags (GREAT exercise) , more fitness equipment, people who work out and actually sweat, steam, sauna, a chilled pool with very few kids, and racquetball courts, which I always thought looked fun.
I just ordered heavy bag training gloves and racquetball stuff off Amazon.
Another thing I appreciate – there are adult locker rooms and family locker rooms. There was recently a bit of dumbshittery at my exurban Y, where a guy cluelessly brought his daughters into the male locker room, the oldest maybe 6 or 7. That wasn’t fair to anybody; one old guy was standing naked when asshole walked in – he was pretty mad.
WereBear
I just parked my car waaaay down the street because we won’t be using our driveway this week. Road work.
Which has already ruined our water pressure and makes hair washing a hit or miss proposal.
So instead of resting up as I’d planned I had to run a million errands. I know. First world problems.
On the good side, our new kitten, Mithrandir, Is most awesome!
nancy darling
@Anne Laurie: That was a different South Carolina knuckle-dragger, Anne. It was one George Tierney.
http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2012/05/20/internet-man-does-not-want-to-be-on-the-google-anymore/
Cacti
In the worst analogy of the century, Ben Wizner of the ACLU compares Edward Snowden to a runaway slave using the underground railroad.
sharl
@sharl: Thanks to whomever got me out of FYWP naughty word jail (AL, I assume)!
Botsplainer
@Anne Laurie:
Partially right – dude was from SC, but his first name was George.
Tommy
@Botsplainer: I got Golds Gym by me. They have put everybody out of business. The local gym I used to go to, heck they had a squash ball court (yes I geek out that way), couldn’t keep up. Golds is all we have. Well and the YMCA. Looking into that. The only problem, it is so darn popular the place is paced 24/7.
As to your locker room comment, I get it. I am that guy that showers at a health club. I am not that proud of my body, but I don’t have any problem getting nude and taking a shower. Walking around nude.
Keith G
@Tommy: Try again. Years ago, I bought season one and two of Deadwood, but checking now it tells me that season three is available at no additional cost. And I see that Boardwalk Empire is available too.
Yeah, so, check again. Maybe you were too early before.
D58826
What will be a surprise to no one the goopers are planning to hold hearings on the prisoner swap. I guess they figure Bergdahl and Benghazi have a nice ring when said together. There truly is not a level in hell that is low enough for these scum
Mr Stagger Lee
@The Dangerman: Westbrook needs to understand that the Thunder is Kevin Durant’s team and needs to understand, he is Scotty Pippen to Durant’s Jordan or James Worthy to Durant’s Magic Johnson. He will win championships that way.
Ash Can
@D58826: Please proceed, GOP.
Baud
@Cacti:
Rules for comparing things to slavery:
1. Ask yourself, is what I’m talking about slavery?
2. If the answer to question 1 is no, STFU.
Yutsano
@Ruckus: And he will suffer no consequences for it. Hell Nikki will probably give him a cushier state job now.
gene108
@Botsplainer:
I think the old guy needs to learn to use a towel. I do not get what it is with old guys – and it is always old guys – who have to walk around the locker room naked. It is annoying, especially when they sit on the little benches naked that are there for community use.
Baud
@D58826:
Hope they go on a fact-finding mission to Afghanistan.
Cacti
@Baud:
Wizner’s second tortured comparison is that no one would have criticized MLK if he’d fled to New York rather than go to jail in Birmingham.
Smh.
Frankensteinbeck
@Cacti:
The ACLU does a wonderful, utterly necessary job. That does not mean they’re right about anything. Going way too far may even be built in and virtuous as an organization, because they’re supposed to pull against people going way too far on the other side. So at the same time, what a twit, and yet his very twitness makes him useful.
EDIT – Snowden is a perfect example. I could not have less regard for Snowden, and I don’t think he deserves journalistic or whistleblower protections, because neither defines what he did. HOWEVER, I absolutely would want the ACLU to defend him, and do it zealously. Someone should argue for that side in court to help balance the system.
Tommy
@gene108: I almost want to say fuck you. First off I don’t think at 43 I am “old”. I can’t even believe I am coming out on this end, but it is a freaking health club. If you can’t get somewhat nude, to shower or head into the sauna then WTF. Now agreed it always seems like older people that are walking around nude. I tend to use this thing called a towel and don’t always just walk around nude. But again it is a gosh darn health club!
Baud
@Cacti:
He’s probably right about that. MLK was kind of treated with kid gloves, IMHO.
Keith G
@D58826: Ya know, technically, there should be a hearing if there is actually is a question about laws being violated. That would be the prudent thing to do if the motive was to find if law or process needs to be changed.
Obviously, that is a motive that most likely does not exists with this GOP. I doubt the Benghazi crowd would want a Bowe Bergdahl hearing to go on and steal their pretend mojo. If a hostile Bergdahl hearing is started, I doubt it would last much longer than it would take Chuck Hagel and the Joint Chiefs (the latter in uniforms and ribbons) to put the Congress critters in their place.
Some fights are very worth having and should be welcomed and not avoided.
Cacti
@Frankensteinbeck:
I can’t imagine that Mr. Wizner would ever compare Snowden to a Holocaust refugee.
Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers)
@Tommy:
As Jesus almost said: if some random old guy’s junk offends you, pluck your own goddamn eye out.
Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)
@Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers): I agree with gene108 that people should a least sit on a towel – especially in a sauna or steam room.
Baud
Trigger warning: this thread features discussion of old man junk.
WaterGirl
@Anne Laurie: @nancy darling: Thank you. I just took a lovely stroll down George Tierne Lane on TBogg. My wish for this sort of public humiliation for this creep still stands.
WaterGirl
@D58826: The GOP is gonna look great when it becomes well known that they stood in the way of this soldier’s return 2 years ago.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Reminds me of John Cole:
“You know what’s like rape? RAPE, you stupid fuck.”
Cacti
@WaterGirl:
Who could forget George Tierney of Greenville, South Carolina?
Litlebritdifrnt
@Frankensteinbeck:
Sometimes the ACLU does a stellar job, like when they hired my boss to challenge the Pender County Sheriff because he fired a dispatcher because she was unmarried and living with her boyfriend. The Sheriff cited an archaic NC law that made living together without being married a misdemeanor.
We won. Of course it helped that the judge that ruled on the case lived with his wife before he married her.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-07-21-cohabitation_x.htm
The ACLU does stellar work in some cases, not all of course, but in some cases they really fight for the little guy.
Tommy
I beg you to watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go_QOzc79Uc
I used to be a 100 pounds heavier then I am now. Yes you read that right. I want to yell at a level you can’t get through type about this. Watch this video. Only 20 minutes. Watch it.
Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers)
@Tommy:
How did you reduce your awesomeness by so much and how long did it take?
SiubhanDuinne
@D58826:
B E _ G _ A _ _
Keith G
@gene108:
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It seems to me that a good deal of it is just a generational nonchalance with “ingroup nudity/comradery. Having experienced a variety of settings throughout the years, from very private country clubs, to fitness centers, to high school athletic locker rooms (first as an athlete and then a coach) cohorts older than me tended to give this scant notice; while, cohorts younger than me seem to get progressively more concerned about the covered/not covered issue.
Central Planning
@SiubhanDuinne:
B E L G I A N S?
Shit, another country I need to worry about.
SiubhanDuinne
@Central Planning:
Such win.
Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers)
@SiubhanDuinne:
John McCain is now demanding air strikes on B E L G R A D E because of you.
Cervantes
@D58826: The idea is an ancient one — you can find versions of it from Virgil to Swift — but I think the language you have in mind (invoking shoes, or rather, boots) goes back to one Charles Spurgeon.
It’s not true that it was originally Twain but it is often attributed to him — or via him, to Disraeli — and, fittingly, the corrections rarely get their boots on.
(And you can see why.)
ruemara
@Frankensteinbeck: I had a problem with the ACLU lawyer discussing whether the NSA spying overseas wasn’t a violation of civil law. I had to wonder if this was really a well thought out argument.
Anne Laurie
@Keith G:
I have been told, by male people, that gay men didn’t exist (or at least weren’t known to exist) back when The Olds learned proper gym etiquette. Gen X and younger straight men were said to be shy about the possibility of being judged, ifyouknowwhatImeanandIthinkyoudo.
Keith G
Once again…FYWP
Keith G
@Anne Laurie: And now there is at least one one full generation (millennials) raised partially on stories of stranger danger…..for this late ‘Boomer, it nearly approaches paranoia.
Ironically (in reference to my previous comments), I now lift, and use a treadmill at a gym that caters to gay males. Appropriate athletic clothing must be worn in the weight/cardio area….the full size pool, not so much.
Ruckus
@Anne Laurie:
I’m getting on to being old and I’ve known gay people(related to one!) for over 40 yrs. I don’t think that is it. Most of us don’t look like the sort of human that would be asked to appear in a movie sans clothing but at some point I think you just cease caring about it. Some at a very young age, my experience is at about 25 for most of us. Some never. The military is a great place to lose that if you hadn’t already. At least when I was in every thing you do is out in the open, shower, sleep, poop, walk around. There are/were no stalls, partitions etc. On board ship, the living conditions were even closer than boot camp. Shyness, properness, they get lost pretty fast. Or as one fella found out who refused to take a shower among the others, gets removed. Forcefully.
chopper
@lamh36:
“we”?