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Game ON!

by John Cole|  June 3, 20145:22 pm| 117 Comments

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Allen West is calling for impeachment because of the release of Bergdahl.

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  1. 1.

    Trollhattan

    June 3, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    Somebody needs to kick that bastard’s ginormous balls into his lying teeth.

  2. 2.

    different-church-lady

    June 3, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    I was late by one minute.

  3. 3.

    GxB

    June 3, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    Well, this changes everything…

  4. 4.

    dmsilev

    June 3, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    Of course he is. I’m sure Sarah Palin has been ululating on Facebook as well.

  5. 5.

    Dave C

    June 3, 2014 at 5:27 pm

    Please proceed, Republicans.

  6. 6.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 3, 2014 at 5:27 pm

    So, war criminal disgrace to the officer corps of the United States Army is calling for impeachment over the Bergdahl deal?

    Please proceed, Rethuglican scum. Seal your own doom.

  7. 7.

    Citizen_X

    June 3, 2014 at 5:28 pm

    Come on, West. Call for a mock execution!

  8. 8.

    different-church-lady

    June 3, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    @Citizen_X: This is Alan Fucking West we’re talking about here — he’ll go straight for a real execution, with the newly refurbished Texas electric chair.

  9. 9.

    MattF

    June 3, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Self-awareness isn’t his strong point.

    But, regardless. I think West and his pals are in for a surprise.

  10. 10.

    jl

    June 3, 2014 at 5:31 pm

    West and his fellow grifters will be keeping track of the take off this proposal, if picken’s are good, expect a summer blockbuster action thriller rollout for the base, then a professionally done Autumn sales campaign for the more discerning audience, a la the promotion for criminal, corrupt and blunderific Iraw war.

  11. 11.

    Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers)

    June 3, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    Given Allen West’s apparent obsession with impeaching Obama over words beginning with “B”, I guess we’d better make sure he never watches the Princess Bride, or Buttercup is going to wake up one morning and discover she was running the Florin chapter of the Socialist Muslim Crypto-Kenyan Arugula Jihad all along.

  12. 12.

    Mustang Bobby

    June 3, 2014 at 5:33 pm

    If this keeps up, The Onion is going to sue for copyright infringement.

  13. 13.

    dmsilev

    June 3, 2014 at 5:33 pm

    @Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers): I’m convinced that the GOP will soon start screeching about Ben-Gay.

  14. 14.

    BGinCHI

    June 3, 2014 at 5:34 pm

    I’d be worried if it was Adam West.

  15. 15.

    Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers)

    June 3, 2014 at 5:35 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Or Ben Wa Balls, that well known Asian-American cousin of (the British Commie Liberal) Ed.

  16. 16.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 3, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    @Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers): “You keep using that word, Mr. West. I do not think It means what you think it means.”

  17. 17.

    Chris T.

    June 3, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    Damn, beaten to the “please proceed” punch.

    Someone should post that to the comments on the linked page though…

  18. 18.

    kindness

    June 3, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    Let’s see….conservative acts to raise blood pressure in base. Check.

    All they have is anger and rage. I feel bad for their families.

  19. 19.

    Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers)

    June 3, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    “I would not say such things if I were you, Reality!”

  20. 20.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 3, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    @BGinCHI: I’d be even more worried if it were Burt Ward.

  21. 21.

    BGinCHI

    June 3, 2014 at 5:41 pm

    Dear DiFi:

    Please fucking retire!!

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/feinstein-white-house-violated-law-bergdahl

  22. 22.

    SatanicPanic

    June 3, 2014 at 5:41 pm

    Do it do it do it! gimme gimme! want that!

  23. 23.

    BGinCHI

    June 3, 2014 at 5:41 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Win.

  24. 24.

    jl

    June 3, 2014 at 5:42 pm

    @efgoldman:

    ‘ File charges, already. ‘

    Why? In their opinion, he was already serving his sentence as a POW for whatever crime he did, which he did do, sure enough. The unconstitutional Nobama done committed a jail break.

    Anyway, you do a real investigation, who know what that might turn up? Maybe the guy had a nervous breakdown. Need to bring on the noise, bring on the funk to drown out where serious fact stuff might lead.

  25. 25.

    Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers)

    June 3, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    Di Spy with her eye in the sky
    Leering down at you and I.

  26. 26.

    Arm The Homeless

    June 3, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    11th dimensional chess, or blessed with deeply flawed adversaries? You decide.

    But seriously, the elder Bergdahl seems like quite an interesting story. No matter what comes of this, this will be one of those zombie stories that will constantly mutate to be used as a rhetorical club against Dems.

    Are the Idaho reps holding their fire? Thats how I usually gauge these sorts of personality driven kerfuffles.

  27. 27.

    kc

    June 3, 2014 at 5:45 pm

    He’s a psycho. Eff him.

  28. 28.

    Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers)

    June 3, 2014 at 5:46 pm

    @Arm The Homeless:

    In later years, men were judged and their careers blighted by whether they had been objectively pro-elder Bergdahlist or not.

  29. 29.

    BGinCHI

    June 3, 2014 at 5:46 pm

    @Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers): She is literally clutching her pearls.

  30. 30.

    gratuitous

    June 3, 2014 at 5:46 pm

    Mr. West? A favor? Could you go down the active duty rosters of the military, and tell us ahead of time which personnel aren’t worthy of repatriation? We could save a lot of time, money and family heartache if we knew ahead of time whether we should get a prisoner released or recover a body depending on whether they meet the Allen West Standard.

    Pretty please? I’m sure it would be good for morale, too, knowing that if your buddy doesn’t come back, it’s none of the troops’ concern. “Ah, fuck him. Allen West said he wasn’t worth recovering.”

  31. 31.

    Betty Cracker

    June 3, 2014 at 5:47 pm

    West got kicked off the US Congress gravy train after a single term, and he’s been suckling at the wingnut welfare teat ever since to avoid getting an actual job. He’s a low-rent Snowflake Snooki, which is low-rent indeed.

  32. 32.

    mike with a mic

    June 3, 2014 at 5:48 pm

    Impeach him for returning a soldier… this should be good for laughs.

  33. 33.

    mike with a mic

    June 3, 2014 at 5:48 pm

    Impeach him for returning a soldier… this should be good for laughs.

  34. 34.

    different-church-lady

    June 3, 2014 at 5:48 pm

    @jl: I think he meant file impeachment charges against Obama.

  35. 35.

    Patrick

    June 3, 2014 at 5:48 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    I dare DiFi to say the same thing in person to the father of Bergdahl. Hell, I don’t recall she was all that adamant about Bush following the law…

  36. 36.

    princess leia

    June 3, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    Now Feinstein is expressing concern….

  37. 37.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 3, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Sub-sub-basement Snooki. Lower than Mediterranean Avenue low rent.

  38. 38.

    dmsilev

    June 3, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Check out the cover of West’s book. It screams “I am grifting the wingnuts” louder than anything not written by Anne Coulter.

  39. 39.

    Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers)

    June 3, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Has he denied being a Which yet?

  40. 40.

    BGinCHI

    June 3, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    @Patrick: She has the courage of her convictions but is not sure what her convictions are.

  41. 41.

    SatanicPanic

    June 3, 2014 at 5:55 pm

    @princess leia: can we get rid of her yet? Why is she still our Senator? She sucks.

  42. 42.

    Betty Cracker

    June 3, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    @dmsilev: OMFG! He actually refers to himself as “An American Ronin” without shame or irony. Nice screaming eagle graphics on the Harley, too.

  43. 43.

    ranchandsyrup

    June 3, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    a flag desecrator sez what about impeachment?

  44. 44.

    Betty Cracker

    June 3, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    @BGinCHI: The only detectable conviction I’ve observed is the conceit that she’s Verra Important!

  45. 45.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    June 3, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    @Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers): Well, he isn’t a Who.

  46. 46.

    Patrick

    June 3, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    Bush tortured people. Obama didn’t consult with Congress. What exactly is worse, Mrs Feinstein??? This isn’t exactly brain surgery.

  47. 47.

    burnspbesq

    June 3, 2014 at 6:03 pm

    Bring. It. On.

  48. 48.

    Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers)

    June 3, 2014 at 6:03 pm

    @dmsilev:

    I think he tried to spell Moron, but it came out Ronin instead.

  49. 49.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    June 3, 2014 at 6:04 pm

    @Patrick: But she wasn’t treated with the deference that is her due.

  50. 50.

    PhoenixRising

    June 3, 2014 at 6:04 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): I Dunno.

  51. 51.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 3, 2014 at 6:04 pm

    I’m sure that the cash register is chinging like mad over at Allen West Grifting, Inc. right now, as wingtards forward substantial portions of their disability and social security checks to the Allen West fund for boat payments.

  52. 52.

    dmsilev

    June 3, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Well, if we take a quick look at the original Ronin (via Wikipedia):

    Because the former samurai could not legally take up a new trade, or because of pride were loath to do so, many rōnin looked for other ways to make a living with their swords. Those rōnin who desired steady, legal employment became mercenaries that guarded trade caravans, or bodyguards for wealthy merchants. Many other rōnin became criminals, operating as bandits and highwaymen, or joining organized crime in towns and cities. Rōnin were known to operate, or serve as hired muscle for gangs that ran gambling rings, brothels, protection rackets, and other similar activities. Many were petty thieves and muggers. The criminal segment gave the rōnin of the Edo period a persistent reputation of disgrace, with the image of thugs, bullies, cutthroats, and wandering vagrants.

    Actually, that’s not a bad descriptor of a large swath of the GOP.

  53. 53.

    BGinCHI

    June 3, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    @Patrick: Bush Lied. Obama made it possible to get affordable healthcare and killed Osama Bin Laden and got us out of our pointless wars.

    /bumper sticker

  54. 54.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 3, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    @Patrick: For DiFi, apparently it is.

    Concern troll DiFi is concerned! Oh my stars and garters!

  55. 55.

    Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers)

    June 3, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    @Patrick:

    IIRC, Obama included a signing statement when he signed the relevant bill last year, saying that he would feel free not to consult in emergency cases. So he isn’t bound to consult Feinstein’s corrupt ass anyway.

  56. 56.

    Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers)

    June 3, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name):

    I’ll happily remedy the situation and apply the boot-to-her-ass deference which is all she deserves.

  57. 57.

    jl

    June 3, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    @different-church-lady: @efgoldman:

    Ooohhhh.. OK. Sure, go ahead then. But really they won’t while grifting the buildup is profitable.

  58. 58.

    Hal

    June 3, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    My co-worker was just ranting about this. According to her Bergdahl should be shot, along with Obama, but she says that all the time. The last time was when President Obama’s speech ruined her recording of a soap opera.

    Oh, and off topic, but noisemax is hilarious:

    Headline:

    WaPo-ABC Poll: Most Blame Obama for VA Scandal

    Inside headline:

    Poll: Most Americans Outraged by VA Scandal; Many Blame Obama

    And then this bit of “math”

    Asked whether they thought that Obama was “personally responsible” for the VA scandal, 19 percent said he deserved a “great deal” of the blame, while another 19 percent said he was a “good deal” to blame.

    A further 41 percent said he was “just some” to blame, adding up to 79 percent of respondents who thought that the president is in some way responsible for the embattled department’s problems.

  59. 59.

    jl

    June 3, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    @Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers):

    Unitary exec, baby! Signing statement!!11!!

    Surely they must remember. Except this wasn’t crushing a child’s testicles, so maybe unitary executive has some limits?

  60. 60.

    PhoenixRising

    June 3, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    Serve a paper & sue me, sue me
    What can you do me
    Give a holler & hate me…

    Where do I sign to put the full force of my endorsement behind the House GOP putting the President on trial for getting a soldier back from the Taliban?

  61. 61.

    Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers)

    June 3, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    @Hal:

    Was this the skewed poll, or the poll unskewed for conservative truthiness?

  62. 62.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 3, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    @Hal: Sorta like grumbling about ACA, except that at least half the grumbling was that ACA didn’t go far enough.

  63. 63.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 3, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    @jl: Let’s call John Yoo and find out!

  64. 64.

    Gravenstone

    June 3, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    Such a shame that Mr West lost his (brief) Congressional sinecure once the people in his district realized what a useless fucking embarrassment and tool he actually was. Otherwise he could, you know, actually draft said Articles of Impeachment. Instead, he’s reduced to his natural role of attention whoring.

  65. 65.

    Long Tooth

    June 3, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    If indeed even a single black American ever fought tooth-and-nail for the Confederacy, I bet it was one of Allen West’s great grandpappys.

  66. 66.

    princess leia

    June 3, 2014 at 6:30 pm

    @SatanicPanic: Indeed. You would think we could come up with SOMEONE progressive in this state!

  67. 67.

    Zifnab25

    June 3, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    Do it! Please! Spend the next six months trying to impeach Obama for rescuing a marine from the Taliban!

  68. 68.

    Mike in NC

    June 3, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    We need an Impeachment Pool. I say it will happen before Labor Day.

  69. 69.

    Cacti

    June 3, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    This would be a good time to remind the public that Allen West was drummed out of the service for war crimes, and was spared court martial.

  70. 70.

    Jay C

    June 3, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    @Zifnab25:

    Sorry, Bowe Bergdahl wasn’t a Marine: he was an Army Guy, unit: 501st Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division,

  71. 71.

    Ash Can

    June 3, 2014 at 6:46 pm

    Meh. Allen West is just another camp follower at this point. I’ll get excited when Eric Cantor calls for Obama’s impeachment.

  72. 72.

    SFAW

    June 3, 2014 at 6:47 pm

    @Cacti:

    Yeah, maybe we could get a two-fer: Obama impeached and West court martialed.

    Only question I have is: does the UCMJ allow execution by firing squad for “Being a Lying Fucking Weasel and Asshole”? Because if it does, West might end up doing remote grifting from Toronto, tout de suite..

  73. 73.

    WaterGirl

    June 3, 2014 at 6:48 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    He’s a low-rent Snowflake Snooki

    Straight from the department of redundancy department.

  74. 74.

    WaterGirl

    June 3, 2014 at 6:51 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): As a smart-mouthed 13-year-old, when my mother told me I needed to treat her with more respect, I said: “Respect is given where respect is due.”

    In retrospect, I’m a bit dismayed that I actually made it to 14, but I was reminded of that little line when you talked about DiFi.

  75. 75.

    Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers)

    June 3, 2014 at 6:51 pm

    @SFAW:

    You think Rob Ford is going to allow another crocodile into his warm, sunny pool of grift?

  76. 76.

    D58826

    June 3, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    @jl: From Mr. West’s website

    Now before all the detractors go apoplectic here, let me tell you about Article 2 signing statements, their intent, purpose, history, and usage, and the implications for the president’s impeachment.

    THERE ARE NO ARTIOCLE 2 SIGNING statements. Not only is he a war criminal but a total stupid one at that.

    From Wikipedia

    In July 2006, a task force of the American Bar Association stated that the use of signing statements to modify the meaning of duly enacted laws serves to “undermine the rule of law and our constitutional system of separation of powers”.[2]</No United States Constitution provision, federal statute, or common-law principle explicitly permits or prohibits signing statements. However, there is also no part of the Constitution which grants any legal value to signing statements. Article I, Section 7 (in the Presentment Clause) empowers the president to veto a law in its entirety, to sign it, or to do nothing. Article II, Section 3 requires that the executive "take care that the laws be faithfully executed". The Constitution does not authorize the President to cherry-pick which parts of validly enacted Congressional Laws he is going to obey and execute, and which he is not.

    also freom Wikipedia it looks like one more bad habit from Ronulus the unready

    The upswing in the use of signing statements during the Reagan administration coincides with the writing by Samuel A. Alito — then a staff attorney in the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel — of a 1986 memorandum making the case for “interpretive signing statements” as a tool to “increase the power of the Executive to shape the law.” Alito proposed adding signing statements to a “reasonable number of bills” as a pilot project, but warned that “Congress is likely to resent the fact that the President will get in the last word on questions of interpretation.”[13]

    The elephant echo chamber had no objections when it was a Bushie or Reagan.

    As to the Marine tahmooressi he isn’t a political prisioner. He broke Mexican law – no gunsw. If I remember correctly the one time I crossed the Mexican border there are big signs telling you the lewave the guns in the US

  77. 77.

    David Koch

    June 3, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    Who?

  78. 78.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    June 3, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    @WaterGirl: At approximately that age, I made some remark to my mom – I don’t recall what it was – and my dad who was doing something outside the house overheard me say it. Within seconds, he was standing in front and quietly saying, “Do not ever speak to your mother that way again,” and then he turned around and went back outside. I never spoke to my mother that way again.

  79. 79.

    WaterGirl

    June 3, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): Sometimes less is more. Your dad sounds like a good guy.

  80. 80.

    shelley

    June 3, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    Alan West would call for impeachment if Obama fed Bo too many Milk Bones.

    Why, oh why, are we supposed to give credence to folks like West, Sarah Palin, Rick Santorum, Gingrich? People who the electorate have soundly rejected. And lets not even get started on total fraud, Trump

  81. 81.

    Chris T.

    June 3, 2014 at 7:33 pm

    @Hal: Also, remember that the poll options surely went like this:

    The VA system is not taking care of the American Troops. Who is to blame?
    1. President Obama is personally responsible for everything.
    2. President Obama deserves the majority of the blame.
    3. President Obama deserves some blame.
    4. President Obama is Jesus, and therefore blameless.

    The amazing thing is not that 79% chose one of the first three, but that 21% chose option 4 at all.

  82. 82.

    Cassidy

    June 3, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    I wish these chickenshit motherfuckers would.

  83. 83.

    different-church-lady

    June 3, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    @shelley:

    Alan West would call for impeachment if Obama fed Bo too many exactly the appropriate number of Milk Bones.

  84. 84.

    Hill Dweller

    June 3, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    Diane Feinstein is a profile in courage.

    Tweety has lost his f’n mind. I’m rooting for a Howard Beale-esque meltdown.

  85. 85.

    Ash Can

    June 3, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    Bad news for Mad Magazine fans — Mad has jumped aboard the Bergdahl-sucks bandwagon. (Sorry no link — h/t the LGF commenters)

  86. 86.

    catclub

    June 3, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    As far as Feinstein being worthless, somebody posted that if the Legislative branch wants to sue over this, they should.
    It would help a LOT to clarify what power the executive actually has.

    Has anyone else noted that Obama had a signing statement on that bill because of the Guantanamo constraints.

  87. 87.

    Betty Cracker

    June 3, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): Smart boy. It’s good to have parents who stick up for each other.

  88. 88.

    Ash Can

    June 3, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    Headline Of The Day: Oliver North (Yes, Oliver North) Accuses Obama Of ‘Financing A Terrorist Organization’ With Bergdahl Release

  89. 89.

    Mandalay

    June 3, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    Gloria Borger was just on CNN pontificating on whether President Obama should be impeached over “Bergazi”.

    Anyone thinking that cable news cannot possibly get any worse should recalibrate their sewerometer accordingly.

  90. 90.

    Cacti

    June 3, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    “I renew my call on the Defense Department to redouble its efforts to find Sergeant Bergdahl and return him safely to his family.”

    Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)
    Memorial Day, 2014

    I wonder what changed her mind in the course of 2-weeks?

  91. 91.

    Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers)

    June 3, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    @Mandalay:

    Gloria Borgia? The one who slept with her brother and stole the papal elections in Mississippi?

  92. 92.

    Betty Cracker

    June 3, 2014 at 8:02 pm

    @Mandalay: I’ve pretty much stopped watching “the news,” including MSNBC. I just can’t anymore.

  93. 93.

    the Conster

    June 3, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    I hope I live long enough to tell the tale (in a Cicely Tyson voice) of how white America – mostly middle aged men – lost their collective shit starting Jan. 20, 2009, and that according to those men, history began at that moment and everything that happened before then, by their telling, was lost in the mists of time even though it was recorded and documented in many kinds of digitalized formats, and that there was a mass hysteria that settled upon the land in the year Y2K 2000 that darkened the earth, blotting out enlightenment, reason and compassion for two decades, and that force was… the popular election of OBAMA.

  94. 94.

    Mike in NC

    June 3, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    @Ash Can: Ollie North, Allen West, John McCain: all disgraced the uniform and made a buck off of it. Only in America.

  95. 95.

    D58826

    June 3, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    Fascinating watching the presumably righties demand action on the hero Marine held by the Mexicans on weapons charges. Again there are all manners of ‘facts’ floating about as to what this guy did or didn’t do but if he was in Mexico with guns he broke Mexican law. Of course the right thinks as a real Murkin he doesn’t have to obey Mexican law. No wonder most of the world thinks we are stuck up cry babies.

  96. 96.

    Mandalay

    June 3, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    @Cacti:

    I wonder what changed her mind in the course of 2-weeks?

    McCain is pulling the same shit:

    McCain on February 18:

    In 2012, McCain called the idea of negotiating with the Taliban “bizarre” and “highly questionable,” but on Tuesday he said on CNN’s “Anderson Cooper 360” that he would be open to a swap now being discussed.

    McCain said his stance has changed only because the previous proposal was to release five “hard-core” Taliban leaders as a “confidence-building measure.” The current proposal would be an actual exchange of prisoners.

    “I would be inclined to support such a thing, depending on a lot of details,” he said.

    McCain on June 1:

    It is disturbing that these individuals would have the ability to re-enter the fight, and they are big, high-level people, possibly responsibly for the deaths of thousands…

    So to be clear, McCain was against it before he was for it before he was against it.

    That disgusting fucker actually ran for president.

  97. 97.

    Hill Dweller

    June 3, 2014 at 8:22 pm

    @Betty Cracker: This whole damn thing feels weird. The Republican attacks are predictable. On some level the Village going along with it is predictable. But there are a lot of Dems going ape shit as well. It feels coordinated.

  98. 98.

    Mandalay

    June 3, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    I actually laughed out loud when I read this:
    House Republicans have pledged to press for hearings to review the administration’s decision to act without notifying Congress.

    I think Obama is pretty awesome anyway, but he went up a couple of notches when he gave the finger to that pile of filth.

  99. 99.

    Mandalay

    June 3, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    @Hill Dweller:

    But there are a lot of Dems going ape shit as well. It feels coordinated.

    It’s not coordinated; it’s visceral. Obama effectively told Congress to stay out of the fucking way so he could do his job.

    Dems are going to have a tantrum over being dissed just as much as Republicans.

  100. 100.

    poptaracus

    June 3, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    Dear lord, jesus and baby jesus please let the republicans impeach the prez over anything.
    we should be so lucky
    allen west can suck my cock, as long as he dosn’t bite to hard when I cum

  101. 101.

    catclub

    June 3, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    @the Conster: The Biography of Miss Jane Pittman!

  102. 102.

    Patrick

    June 3, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    @Mandalay:

    This from a guy who was a POW himself. I’m speechless.

  103. 103.

    Suffern ACE

    June 3, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    @Hill Dweller: your democratic senators like Guantanamo. They really do. How many times do they have to vote for it for you to believe that the elite political establishment likes it. There are 20,000 Taliban. 13 years ago there were 20,000 Taliban. But these five are special. These were supposed to be locked away forever.

  104. 104.

    D58826

    June 3, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    @Mandalay:

    McCain on June 1:

    It is disturbing that these individuals would have the ability to re-enter the fight, and they are big, high-level people, possibly responsibly for the deaths of thousands…

    Reagan had no problem working with Saddam who gassed his own people and Bush 43 certainly made nice with Qdaffy. Didn’t McCain take a trip to Libya and make kissy face with Qdaffy?

  105. 105.

    wonder gir.

    June 3, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    @Ash Can: Boy oh Boy they are screeching like wild Monkeys! Who turned up the volume………

  106. 106.

    Morzer (0th of His PseudoName and Founder of the Walter Sobchak Peacekeepers)

    June 3, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    @Suffern ACE:

    A former Burlington Coat Factory would like to remind us all of the heroic courage of those same Democrats.

  107. 107.

    the Conster

    June 3, 2014 at 8:57 pm

    @Patrick:

    This from a guy who was a POW himself.

    I didn’t know that.

  108. 108.

    hilts

    June 3, 2014 at 9:08 pm

    @Cacti:

    Kelly Ayotte is paralyzed from the neck up.

  109. 109.

    Suffern ACE

    June 3, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    @Cacti: they were all hoping for a transfer that involved death.

  110. 110.

    Kay

    June 3, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    @Hill Dweller:

    This whole damn thing feels weird

    I agree. Congress never wanted responsibility for Guantanamo. They’ve ducked it at every turn. It is hard for me to believe that they wanted a head’s up on the exchange, because then they would be responsible on the one hand for okaying an exchange, or on the other, leaving him there. This way it’s all on Obama.

    I’m particularly interested in the fact that McCain said this in February:

    McCain said his stance has changed only because the previous proposal was to release five “hard-core” Taliban leaders as a “confidence-building measure.” The current proposal would be an actual exchange of prisoners.
    “I would be inclined to support such a thing, depending on a lot of details,” he said.

    That’s really specific, and it’s also exactly what happened. I think we have to see what the legal status of the remaining prisoners is with the (official) end of the war. If this is actually a way for the Obama Administration to move on that, I personally will be convinced Congress is just covering their ass and letting the President do what has to be done, which is get those people out of there. They really can’t stay in the Cuban prison forever, and this war really can’t go on forever. It has to end.

  111. 111.

    SFAW

    June 3, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    @Mandalay:

    It is disturbing that these individuals would have the ability to re-enter the fight, and they are big, high-level people, possibly responsibly for the deaths of thousands…

    Or not. Some semi-intelligent Taliban-watcher (in the sense of Nate being a poll watcher) said that the guys released, although formerly fairly high up, have been gone for 13 years, and have been replaced by younger persons. Same commenter noted that they’re all fairly old now, and may not be as jihad-prone as they once were.

    I have no idea whether the speaker knew his shit, or was just talking out of his ass, but it seemed to make a little more sense than the characterization of the detainees being Jordan, Magic, Kareem, Wilt, Julius, and Harthorne Wingo, all rolled into one (sort of).

  112. 112.

    SFAW

    June 3, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    @Suffern ACE:

    they were all hoping for a transfer that involved death.

    They could get their wish: Allen West could kill himself in protest. Problem solved!

  113. 113.

    Kay

    June 3, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    @Hill Dweller:

    as a “confidence-building measure.”

    And, what does this mean? A confidence-building measure towards what? They’re then confident we’ll make good and release the other prisoners, because we released five deemed dangerous or risky?

    I think we have to call Senator John McCain as a witness at this impeachment hearing! :)

    I have questions! Many!

  114. 114.

    karen

    June 3, 2014 at 10:08 pm

    So if he gets impeached what happens to Obama then? Does he get thrown into jail? Removed from the Presidency? Or what the GOP wants, executed?

  115. 115.

    pseudonymous in nc

    June 3, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    @D58826:

    they are big, high-level people, possibly responsibly for the deaths of thousands…

    Like Robert E. Lee, another military commander in a civil war?

  116. 116.

    Cluttered Mind

    June 3, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    I got a slight sunburn on my shoulders today after going swimming, even though I made sure to apply sunscreen. Clearly this means Obama must be impeached RIGHT NOW!

  117. 117.

    Epicurus

    June 4, 2014 at 11:58 am

    Such a shame that West was not re-elected to the House; then he might have even been able to vote on this proposal! Screw him with a rusty rake, he is a real traitor to his country. He’ll get off on the technicality that he is bat-shit insane.

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