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England v Italy Open Thread

by Randinho|  June 14, 20144:50 pm| 118 Comments

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  1. 1.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 14, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    I hate it when England plays a team I like even less.

  2. 2.

    Leeds man

    June 14, 2014 at 5:09 pm

    The teams;

    England (4-2-3-1): Hart; Johnson, Cahill, Jagielka, Baines; Gerrard, Henderson; Rooney, Sterling, Welbeck; Sturridge.

    Italy (4-1-3-1-1): Sirigu; Darmian, Paletta, Barzagli, Chiellini; De Rossi; Pirlo, Verratti, Marchisio; Candreva; Balotelli

  3. 3.

    Morzer

    June 14, 2014 at 5:09 pm

    After the mighty Costa Ricans crushed the Uruguayan Empire, I have given up predicting games based on past form and realistic expectations. England to win 2-1.

  4. 4.

    Onkel Fritze

    June 14, 2014 at 5:27 pm

    Giovanne Elber just predicted a 0-0 on German TV.

  5. 5.

    humboldtblue

    June 14, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): No shit. Either we back those Island bound pasty-faced tea guzzlers or the hairy fascists who, when they aren’t flopping like a landed guppy are remonstrating as if the world is about to end.

    Guess it’s time to start drinking

  6. 6.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    June 14, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    @humboldtblue: Supporting France, are we?

  7. 7.

    humboldtblue

    June 14, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    Plus, the field is in dreadful condition which won’t help matters

  8. 8.

    Sloane Ranger

    June 14, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    Ingerland! Ingerland! Come on Ingerland!

    England to win 1-0.

  9. 9.

    humboldtblue

    June 14, 2014 at 5:53 pm

    Yet another outstanding first round matchup with still another to go with Germany v Portugal

  10. 10.

    Morzer

    June 14, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    @humboldtblue:

    Australians drink tea now? And what have you got against Argentina?

  11. 11.

    Morzer

    June 14, 2014 at 5:55 pm

    The Italian anthem sounds oddly like Wagner being played by an ice-cream truck.

  12. 12.

    Violet

    June 14, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    It looks hot there.

  13. 13.

    humboldtblue

    June 14, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    @Morzer: As was pointed out earlier, there has been avid support so far for all the South American teams between those countries — except Argentina. Hell, everybody hates the Argentinians

  14. 14.

    humboldtblue

    June 14, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    Balotelli is a joy to watch, he is not, however, a handsome man

  15. 15.

    Violet

    June 14, 2014 at 6:01 pm

    Looks like quite a few empty seats in the stands. Are they having trouble selling tickets?

  16. 16.

    burnspbesq

    June 14, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    A pronounced Scouse flavor to the England side.

  17. 17.

    humboldtblue

    June 14, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    And in the booth

  18. 18.

    Tony J

    June 14, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    England off on the front foot, but both sides are looking like they want goals and are capable of getting them.

    Beer will get me through this.

  19. 19.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 14, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    @Violet: Manaus is a smallish city (by the standards of these things; about 1.7 million) in the middle of the jungle with basically no road connection to the rest of the country. Building a massive stadium there is pretty much the pinnacle of the waste of this tournament. I’m kind of surprised the organizers didn’t do everything possible to make sure the place was packed just to avoid more backlash.

  20. 20.

    Steeplejack

    June 14, 2014 at 6:16 pm

    @Violet:

    This game, at least, did not sell out. I have read that the Brazilians are interested in the Brazilian team, not so much in “random” games between teams they don’t care about, and that European tourists are less likely to book a trip to a lesser known city. Fortaleza is a big city of about 2.5 million people (fifth largest city in Brazil), and it’s a hell of a beach resort and tourist hub—my brother-in-law is from there—but I would assume that your average European (or U.S.) soccer fan would think Rio, São Paulo, Brasília, and then start to draw a blank.

    Don’t even get me started on Manaus.

    ETA: Just realized this game is in Manaus. D’oh! Never mind.

    And Manaus is hosting only four games. Ridiculous to build a stadium for that in the Amazonian wilderness.

  21. 21.

    tsquared2001

    June 14, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): Azzurri Azzurri Azurri!

  22. 22.

    burnspbesq

    June 14, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    England is essentially in a 4-2-4, and there is an acre of space in front of their back line that Gerrard and Henderson are having to work very hard to close down.

  23. 23.

    tsquared2001

    June 14, 2014 at 6:22 pm

    The Italian kit is the best. When I play online FIFA, I play with the Italian side since I can’t seem to score and I can always count on the defense to be solid although that play makes me want to rethink my whole life

  24. 24.

    humboldtblue

    June 14, 2014 at 6:22 pm

    @burnspbesq: And Rooney is useless on the left

  25. 25.

    Tony J

    June 14, 2014 at 6:23 pm

    Aaarrgh! Sooooo close!

  26. 26.

    Violet

    June 14, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): @Steeplejack: Yeah, it seems dumb to build a stadium there. Who will use it after this? Still seems like they could have found a way to fill those lower seats. Allow people with cheaper seats to move down maybe? Give them away to school kids? It looks bad on TV.

    I like Balotelli’s hair.

  27. 27.

    humboldtblue

    June 14, 2014 at 6:25 pm

    England haven’t looked this speed-based and dangerous since they were flying Spitfires. That speed is working well

  28. 28.

    burnspbesq

    June 14, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    England needs to bring on a real midfielder in place of Rooney. Lampard, Barkley, take your pick.

  29. 29.

    tsquared2001

    June 14, 2014 at 6:29 pm

    Who is the black shortie playing for England? Quite quick

  30. 30.

    burnspbesq

    June 14, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    @tsquared2001:

    Raheem Sterling, Liverpool. 19 years old.

  31. 31.

    Violet

    June 14, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    @tsquared2001: Sterling and he’s only 19. When you can see his face he looks just like the teenager he is.

    Oooh…Italy.

  32. 32.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 14, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    Boo. But it’s only England.

  33. 33.

    tsquared2001

    June 14, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    Get over yourself Rooney. That guy. Except for Suarez and Ronaldo, Rooney just makes me want to punch his little head.GOAL GOAL GOAL AZZURRI

  34. 34.

    Steeplejack

    June 14, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    And Italy scores on a sizzling long shot.

  35. 35.

    Tony J

    June 14, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    Balls! Great dummy, great shot.

  36. 36.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 14, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    Did that go through the defender’s legs?

  37. 37.

    humboldtblue

    June 14, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    What a shot

  38. 38.

    tsquared2001

    June 14, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    @Violet: I have got to remember that name. Especially after that play

  39. 39.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    June 14, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    Equalizer!

    ETA: Nice ball by Rooney.

  40. 40.

    Steeplejack

    June 14, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    And England equalizes! Great pass from that dick Rooney.

  41. 41.

    paulw

    June 14, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    Rooting for the nation that doesnt play that annoying horn

  42. 42.

    Tony J

    June 14, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    Shawaddywaddy! Pick that out of the net, Azzurri.

  43. 43.

    burnspbesq

    June 14, 2014 at 6:38 pm

    Speed kills.

  44. 44.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 14, 2014 at 6:38 pm

    Well that’s a hell of a response.

  45. 45.

    humboldtblue

    June 14, 2014 at 6:38 pm

    And Rooney makes up

  46. 46.

    Amir Khalid

    June 14, 2014 at 6:38 pm

    That was a quick equaliser.

  47. 47.

    tsquared2001

    June 14, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    Fucking Rooney with the perfect cross. You still suck Wayne and nobody likes you

  48. 48.

    Violet

    June 14, 2014 at 6:40 pm

    The Arsenal physio is going out on the stretcher. Wonder what happened.

  49. 49.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 14, 2014 at 6:43 pm

    @Violet: He had a heart attack at all the scoring.

  50. 50.

    humboldtblue

    June 14, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    broken ankle

  51. 51.

    Randy Paul

    June 14, 2014 at 6:45 pm

    @Violet: According to the Guardian, he broke his ankle.

  52. 52.

    Amir Khalid

    June 14, 2014 at 6:46 pm

    Weird. The England team physio(therapist) is now off injured. He got piled on in the celebrations after Sturridge’s goal and his ankle is broken.

  53. 53.

    raven

    June 14, 2014 at 6:48 pm

    @Randy Paul: Malcolm Mitchell, Georgia’s best receiver, broke his ankle celebrating in a touchdown in the opener against Clemson. Didn’t help the Dawgs!

  54. 54.

    Amir Khalid

    June 14, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    England haven’t forgotten to bring a substitute physio, surely.

  55. 55.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 14, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    Is the guy that Uruguay lost to the red card important to them? How big a loss is that going forward?

  56. 56.

    Tony J

    June 14, 2014 at 6:53 pm

    Even game so far. Italy look slick when they get around the box, but England have stepped up and matched them in attacking intent. Very good game to watch.

  57. 57.

    Morzer

    June 14, 2014 at 6:53 pm

    That was a helluva first half of soccer and England can feel pleased with the way their young guns have made Italy think again. I wonder whether we might just see the first draw of the world cup here?

  58. 58.

    tsquared2001

    June 14, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    What is up with the Italians and these shots from 30 yards out? Considering the historical and complete ineptitude of English keepers, they need to work that shit just a bit more and get close

  59. 59.

    Morzer

    June 14, 2014 at 6:57 pm

    @tsquared2001:

    Peter Shilton and Gordon Banks think you need to work on your soccer history.

  60. 60.

    humboldtblue

    June 14, 2014 at 6:57 pm

    Every team except for Cameroon and Greece have scored so far

  61. 61.

    Violet

    June 14, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    @Randy Paul: Thanks for the reminder about The Guardian. I’d forgotten how great their live blogs are. Very entertaining.

  62. 62.

    humboldtblue

    June 14, 2014 at 7:00 pm

    If you’re watching the ESPN feed, that Martinez feller is the Everton manager, here he is speaking at the Hillsborough memorial this past April. Have tissues

  63. 63.

    tsquared2001

    June 14, 2014 at 7:02 pm

    I @Morzer: I have been pleased with all the matches so far. An entertaining world cup is a good thing (as Martha Stewart would say)

  64. 64.

    raven

    June 14, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    OOOO, I may make the game and the play!!!!

  65. 65.

    Amir Khalid

    June 14, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    The latest on England physio Gary Lewin is that his ankle is not broken, just dislocated. Could still be the end of his World Cup, though. if he can’t run onto the pitch to treat the wounded injured.

  66. 66.

    Violet

    June 14, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    They just said the physio has a dislocated ankle. How did it happen? Celebrations gone wrong?

  67. 67.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 14, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    @Amir Khalid: A dislocation can be worse than the ankle actually breaking. If the bone doesn’t give way there can be serious ligament damage as they stretch and tear.

  68. 68.

    tsquared2001

    June 14, 2014 at 7:08 pm

    What happened to my old,stodgy England? Italy is having some serious problems with the quickness But then Balotelli shows what true form looks like

  69. 69.

    raven

    June 14, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): yup

  70. 70.

    MikeJ

    June 14, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    England better get another if they want to lose on penalties.

  71. 71.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 14, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    Damn.

  72. 72.

    Violet

    June 14, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    @tsquared2001: Think you spoke too soon. That was a great goal by Italy.

  73. 73.

    Amir Khalid

    June 14, 2014 at 7:10 pm

    @Violet:
    Yep. The guys on the bench piled on top of him.

  74. 74.

    humboldtblue

    June 14, 2014 at 7:10 pm

    Too easy

  75. 75.

    Tony J

    June 14, 2014 at 7:10 pm

    What a simple goal to give away. Long way to go, but FFS don’t just give it to them.

  76. 76.

    SRW1

    June 14, 2014 at 7:11 pm

    Their attacking via the right side is impressive, but did somebody forbid Italy to also try on the left more than ten yards into the English half?

    Very entertaining game. England is holding its own. Maybe that Hodgson fellar will finally get some respect and acknowledgement that he knows what he’s doing.

  77. 77.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 14, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    Shouldn’t that have been a penalty? I’m watching without sound so I have no idea what the announcers are saying.

  78. 78.

    Violet

    June 14, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    @SRW1: Yeah, initially I thought it was a bit slow and boring but it’s turned into a really entertaining match.

  79. 79.

    humboldtblue

    June 14, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    Italy got away with one

  80. 80.

    humboldtblue

    June 14, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    England’s attack is dangerous as is the Itlian

  81. 81.

    tsquared2001

    June 14, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    So happy that the ref didn’t buy that Garrard flop. Shoulder to shoulder

  82. 82.

    humboldtblue

    June 14, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    Fucking Rooney

  83. 83.

    Violet

    June 14, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    Hope Sterling is okay. I’m really liking him.

  84. 84.

    humboldtblue

    June 14, 2014 at 7:26 pm

    What feet

  85. 85.

    Amir Khalid

    June 14, 2014 at 7:30 pm

    England have still not secured their flanks.

  86. 86.

    Violet

    June 14, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    @Amir Khalid: That sounds a bit naughty.

  87. 87.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    June 14, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    @Violet: It sounded awfully militaristic to me.

  88. 88.

    Violet

    June 14, 2014 at 7:36 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): I’ll not deny that my mind is in the gutter.

  89. 89.

    tsquared2001

    June 14, 2014 at 7:36 pm

    Ten or twenty years ago, I would have booked this one as a win for Italia. But this defense is not the Italia defense i knew and loved. 20 minutes to play and I am very fucking nervous

  90. 90.

    humboldtblue

    June 14, 2014 at 7:37 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Candreva is killing them on the left

  91. 91.

    Violet

    June 14, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    The players look tired. That level of heat and humidity is tiring.

  92. 92.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    June 14, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    Have all of England’s players forgotten how to hit a cross?

  93. 93.

    Amir Khalid

    June 14, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    Aside from that one pass for the equaliser, Wayne Rooney hasn’t been the player that England needed him to be tonight.

  94. 94.

    Tony J

    June 14, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    Free kick. Make it count.

    Or, you know, chip it over the crossbar.

  95. 95.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    June 14, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Has he ever been that in a World Cup?

  96. 96.

    Violet

    June 14, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Yeah, he’s been pretty unimpressive.

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): Don’t think so. He seems to underwhelm.

  97. 97.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 14, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    @Amir Khalid: I’m sure he’s good but Rooney has failed to impress me any of the times I’ve watched him, whether it’s World Cup or for United.

  98. 98.

    Amir Khalid

    June 14, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name):
    Rooney is an England “striker” who played in two previous World Cups and never scored. So I guess not.

  99. 99.

    tsquared2001

    June 14, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Poncey motherfucker. My hatred for Wayne Rooney cannot even be calculated

  100. 100.

    Violet

    June 14, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    Sterling is adorable. He looks like he’s about fourteen years old.

  101. 101.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    June 14, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    @Violet: It is my understanding that he has never scored a World Cup goal although he is one of England’s highest goal scorers of all time.

  102. 102.

    Violet

    June 14, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    Five minutes of added time. That’s a lot. But the England team that’s out there now looks uncertain.

  103. 103.

    Amir Khalid

    June 14, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    Won’t it be something if England and Uruguay both miss the knockout stages.

  104. 104.

    Violet

    June 14, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    Was England supposed to win this? What was the prediction?

  105. 105.

    SRW1

    June 14, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    @Violet:

    Italy was the favorite. By more than they displayed.

  106. 106.

    Morzer

    June 14, 2014 at 7:56 pm

    @Violet:

    Most people thought Italy would win, but England did much better in this game than expected, especially in creating chances. I still think they would be better off without Rooney though.

  107. 107.

    humboldtblue

    June 14, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    @Amir Khalid: England showed a lot today they still have a good shot of going through

  108. 108.

    tsquared2001

    June 14, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    Italia! Azzuri! Italia! And I win fifty bucks! Azzurri! Azurri! Italia!

  109. 109.

    Amir Khalid

    June 14, 2014 at 7:59 pm

    England will now have to beat both Uruguay and Costa Rica to make the knockout stages. They must improve their finishing and secure that vulnerable flank.

  110. 110.

    SRW1

    June 14, 2014 at 8:00 pm

    @Morzer:

    Maybe dropping Rooney will be Hodgsons final act of imposing his mark.

  111. 111.

    Sloane Ranger

    June 14, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    OK, OK, we lost. We’ll do better next time. Time to drop Rooney, the most over rated England player EVER!

  112. 112.

    Amir Khalid

    June 14, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    @Amir Khalid:
    Woy Hodgson might also want to leave Rooney out of the starting eleven, and go with someone more disciplined.

  113. 113.

    Morzer

    June 14, 2014 at 8:02 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    I think England should be able to do that. They’ve finally found some young players with speed and technique and Uruguay at least looked very short of ideas. That said, I could see Costa Rica running at the England defense and making life hard for them.

  114. 114.

    Morzer

    June 14, 2014 at 8:03 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    Someone who can actually, you know, hit that rectangular target area would be a big improvement.

  115. 115.

    tsquared2001

    June 14, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    @humboldtblue: Forget about that. Those limeys can suck on a lemon. Sterling is their best talent but he can’t control the midfield

  116. 116.

    Morzer

    June 14, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    @tsquared2001:

    The guy’s a winger, not a midfielder. Facts are awkward things, I know.

  117. 117.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    June 14, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    @Morzer: Let’s not bring politics into this.

  118. 118.

    Leeds man

    June 15, 2014 at 12:19 pm

    @Morzer: Southall, Clemence and Seaman weren’t too bad either.

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