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  6. 6.

    JPL

    I loved it. So my mutt can wiggle his butt with the best of them. He urinates while having having his back feet in the air and walking. I understand, I think, how he gets on the kitchen table but how the heck does he get in my bathroom sink? He’s an eighteen pound tub and the vet wants him to lose to three pounds, He is shaped like a scottie, although a tad overweight.

  8. 8.

    muddy

    One of my dogs spends so much time on her hind legs I told her she ought to push the mower. Of course the damn dogs won’t do any damn chores, they are damn lazy.

  9. 9.

    BGK

    Etymological question: why is John McCain “Walnuts?” Like others, I’ve called him that for years. Someone unfamiliar with the name asked me why, and I really didn’t know.

  10. 10.

    burnspbesq

    @some guy:

    I’m choosing to believe that having Obama as their commencement speaker is giving them karma, but realistically it probably has more to do with good starting pitching.

  12. 12.

    Baud

    If Leonardo di Vinci were alive today, he’d be making animal videos for the Internet.

  15. 15.

    thruppence

    Found myself driving home behind a Camry with a Grateful Dead sticker in one window and two GALT/TAGGART ’16 stickers on the back panel. I guess Ron Paul is too reality based now…

  17. 17.

    Schlemizel

    Saw a thing online that HRC was asked what her favorite book was in an interview.

    Go on, guess.

    Come on, give it a try.

    Oh you want a hint?

    Well, Boy George Dumbell-U Bush also said it was his fav.

    I think I may be ill.

  24. 24.

    Pogonip

    @TaMara (BHF): My God. It took every bit of what little courage I have just to watch the video ( I was a kid in Ohio in 1974). I hope no one was killed and injuries were minimal.

  26. 26.

    Schlemizel

    @schrodinger’s cat:
    Bingo!

    That is just stupid, it buys her no good will with the mouth breathing morons and adds to her litany of phoney-baloney bullshit that actually makes a good avenue for loonies attacking her.

    Now all she needs to add is tht Jesus Christ is her favorite political philosopher.

  27. 27.

    Schlemizel

    @schrodinger’s cat:
    Bingo!

    That is just stupid, it buys her no good will with the mouth breathing morons and adds to her litany of phoney-baloney bullshit that actually makes a good avenue for loonies attacking her.

    Now all she needs to add is tht Jesus Christ is her favorite political philosopher.

  31. 31.

    some guy

    Obama’s commencement speech was at the same time as the Anteaters 1st CWS game. KUCI carried the speech and then switched over to the game as soon as the applause began at the end.

  33. 33.

    ⚽️ Martin

    @burnspbesq: Yeah! Go eaters! UCI has been having a very good year. Law school got full accreditation and looks like we’ll ranked quite high for a new school. Didn’t quite make NCAA basketball, but came pretty close.

  34. 34.

    Iowa Old Lady

    Hm. The sirens are going off. Apparently there’s weather heading my way. Off to find my shoes and go to the basement.

  39. 39.

    ruemara

    @some guy: Win. Take a bow.

    I told a liberal friend that Hillary was connected to The Family. He was like, “No WAY. The Family? Ultraconservative, religious shadow group, the Family?” I had to google The Fellowship and her longstanding ties to it for him.

  41. 41.

    muddy

    @beltane: I was going to say that Hillary has never been very fashionable, and probably wore mom jeans as a teen. But then I remembered there weren’t women’s jeans back then, so she probably wore slacks.

  42. 42.

    TaMara (BHF)

    @JPL:

    I’ve spent my share of summer nights in the basement as a teen in NE, so tornadoes are nothing new, but it was the twin funnels, side by side that amazed me. My godmother is a minister nearby, she just reported that one dead and 16 seriously injured. The town only had like 350 residents. It sucked the basement out of one farmhouse.

    @Pogonip:I remember those tornadoes, scary stuff. Can’t imagine having been there for it.

    A friend of our family’s was actually caught outside in a tornado – she couldn’t get from the parking lot to shelter in time. She survived, I have no idea how, it went right over her, like something out of Twister.

  44. 44.

    JPL

    @Schlemizel: I am so glad that I went to catholic schools.
    One of the problems that I had with Twelve Years A Slave is the use of the bible as an excuse.

  48. 48.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    @Schlemizel: Crap. I was going to guess Justine ou Les Malheurs de la vertu. Reckon the Bible is a close second, though.

  50. 50.

    JPL

    @TaMara (BHF): Wow! I can’t imagine being in that situation. In GA we have tornadoes but more on the F1 and F2 scale. Last year I lost several trees and part of my fence due to the storm but that’s it. .

  51. 51.

    thruppence

    @Gravenstone: No, Don Henley wasn’t around. It also had a sticker saying “Not a Republican. Not a Democrat. I’M AN AMERICAN and I want my country back.” I wonder what version of the country he’s imagining.

  52. 52.

    Corner Stone

    @Schlemizel: I also like the Bible. It’s a great read. Good bedtime stories. Lots of good quotes.
    My mom can quote it back and forth, and last time I looked I love her very much.
    Not my favorite book but why would I give one shit if someone else said it was theirs?

  53. 53.

    raven

    @thruppence:

    Standin’ by a snow drift in the pale moonlight
    Hitchhikin’ west on a highway at night
    Tryin’ to get to Frisco lookin’ for my girl
    Here comes a trucker, hope he don’t mind my long curls
    I remember years ago hitchin’ this same road
    Never saw a trucker leave a man out in the cold
    No riders sign on the window never meant a thing
    Nowadays they just roll on lookin’ kind of mean
    Kind of makes me wonder, scratch my head and kick the snow
    Four years of overseas who are these strangers in my home
    Where are the country people does anybody know
    Do you remember the Americans where did they go
    Were they simply bought and sold

  54. 54.

    schrodinger's cat

    One of my guilty pleasures is checking out fashion blogs, mostly to check out what latest trend salad the bloggers have come up with. I came across a blog called Wardrobe Oxygen, run by a blogger in the DC area.
    Her capsule wardrobe for India was ridiculous. It makes me think that she has probably never actually ever been to India, her suggestions were weather inappropriate and dowdy.

    Her most ridiculous suggestion was that you find a tailor, and get stuff stitched if you are there for only two weeks.

  63. 63.

    Corner Stone

    Ehrmahgod! Somebody said some more shit, y’all!
    It’s all kinds of crazee and shit! Erhmahgod, I think it’s going to make my heck and fire kind of ehrmahgod and shit!

  64. 64.

    muddy

    @thruppence: Libertarian = wingnut potsmoker. It would be an invitation to pull him over, but the cops don’t want to deal with a white gun rights nut over some weed. Did I assume wrongly that it was a he and he was white?

  67. 67.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    @BGK: Well, me too, but in my case, literally nothing. No display, no flashy lights, no back light mocking me, just…nothing. An unfriendly lump of black glass, mirroring my scowl back at me.

    Fucking technology. The Left Hand of the Devil, that’s what it is.

  68. 68.

    beltane

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): I asked because the description matches a Deadhead ex-boyfriend of mine whose politics mysteriously took a sudden rightward turn in 2009. On the other hand, this guy wasn’t much of a reader and I can’t imagine him getting through more than a few pages of Atlas Shrugged.

  73. 73.

    Violet

    @thruppence: I mentioned this yesterday, but I speaking of bumper stickers, I was behind a car with am “I’m from the Elizabeth Warren wing of the Democratic Party.” bumper sticker on it. Apparently you can get them at http://boldprogressives.org/. Didn’t even know this organization existed until I hunted down where to get the bumper sticker.

  75. 75.

    maeve

    @muddy:
    Yeah she wore slacks

    In 6th grade in 1968 I wore similar slacks to school on fridays (we weren’t allowed to wear jeans but on fridays girls could wear pants). My Mom sewed and she sewed me a bunch of groovy pants.

    They did have jeans way back in ancient days. When my Mom went to school (she grew up on a farm in Oregon in the late 40w/early 50s) the boys were allowed to were jeans to school (often because they didn’t have anything else). Their “dress jeans” (which they wore to dances in high school) were carefully washed so they wouldn’t fade. I always think of that when I see stone washed and torn designer jeans.

  76. 76.

    Baud

    @Violet:

    PCCC has been around for a while. IIRC, they were kind of a firebaggery organization, but I haven’t heard much from them lately, so I don’t know what they’re like now.

  77. 77.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    @maeve:

    I always think of that when I see stone washed and torn designer jeans.

    Stone washed haven’t been a thing for yonks. Dark jeans, with strong efforts made to keep them dark, have been more popular for a while now.

  81. 81.

    mainmata

    Cockatoos dance for sure, in fact, they are pretty flamboyant rumba types; dogs are also pretty good dancers. The rest of those clips were just booooogus, to quote Car Talk guys (IMHO).

  82. 82.

    NotMax

    Okay. That’s it. I tried, I really tried, but enough is enough. It’s over. Finito.

    HRC has now calculatedly triangulated and weaselly mugwumpified herself into nothing I can legitimately support for nomination.

    I strive to not spout vitriol, but –

    Screw her and the horse she rode in on.

  83. 83.

    muddy

    @maeve: That pic! I had the same pants, but in more muted tones. I’m sure my mother would have thought these indecent, “They just point to your “bottom” dear!” I wasn’t allowed to wear pants of any sort to school until I went to high school. It was horrifying.

    We all wore Levi’s, but they didn’t have different cuts for women. They’d either be too big in the waist or give you pancake ass. First pair of girls Levi’s I had were like the standard jeans with a much smaller waistband suddenly inset at the top. This was late 70s. Ugh.

  87. 87.

    maeve

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name):

    Where I live know Carharts are the fashion. It’s not “normcore”- it’s what people wear. Someone tried to get our workplace (community college in SE Alaska) “fragrance-free” but then people pointed out that half our students smell of diesel and fish so we just got a memo asking people to be “considerate”

  90. 90.

    beltane

    @maeve: I have a pair of flannel lined Carharts. When it’s -30F and I have to walk the dog fashion is the furthest thing from my thoughts.

  91. 91.

    Schlemizel

    @Corner Stone:
    I have read it twice cover to cover myself & also can quote it as needed. I seriously doubt it is the favorite book of any person who should be sitting in the Oval Office but worse I seriously doubt it is HRCs favorite either.

    But then I seriously doubt you couldn’t figure that out for yourself but chose to be pendantic

  94. 94.

    Corner Stone

    @Schlemizel: I’m not sure. Should she have said Dostoyevsky? Harry Potter? How to lose 10 pounds in 10 days?

    This is just more catty 90210 bullshit. Even the liberal blog Balloon-Juice has decided things can’t really be things unless they decide those things are the real True Scotsman things.

  95. 95.

    mainmata

    @TaMara (BHF): Wow, twin tornadoes! Can’t imagine that (well, I can imagine but it’s pretty scary). Did they track together creating a double-wide path of destruction? We had a bizarre tornado land in Pittsburgh once, a little one that hit Carnegie, part of the South Side of the city in 1998.

  102. 102.

    Schlemizel

    @Gian:
    I had never heard that before. I’m still not buying her story on reading material but that information forces me to ask why we should be excited to have her as the Democratic nominee.

  106. 106.

    gbear

    @maeve: For me, Carhartts are in fashion because it’s possible to find them in fat people sizes. I got fed up trying to find any other jeans with a 44 waist. I wear Carhartt jeans to my office job, I wear Carhartt shirts for scootering, and I’m wearing Carhartt shorts right now. I’ve got some Carhartt insulated bib overhauls and a hooded jacket for when I have to go measure unheated buildings in northern MN in February. They make great, warm, durable stuff.

  108. 108.

    Amir Khalid

    I saw How to Train Your Dragon 2 yesterday and heartily recommend it. It’s a technical masterpiece of computer animation. It has a rousing story and is full of fun. But above all it features a moving depiction of the undying love between the hero’s long-separated parents.

    But then I also happened on this Olivia Cole piece in The Huffington Post denouncing it for having a “non-white” villain. Drago Bludquist’s skin is greyish rather than pink (not brown or black), he wears his black hair long and in dreadlocks, and he is voiced by Djimon Hounsou. But I didn’t get any sense myself that the character was black, which would have been unlikely (though not outright impossible) given the story’s setting; and I’m not sure what she, Cole, is talking about.

  109. 109.

    Corner Stone

    @gbear:

    For me, Carhartts are in fashion because it’s possible to find them in fat people sizes

    Not to be overly rude, but I didn’t know they made them in any other sizings.
    Carhartts are meant to “go over” other clothes.

  113. 113.

    gbear

    @Corner Stone:

    Carhartts are meant to “go over” other clothes.

    If you mean, like, underwear, your right. I’m not wearing layers of jeans at the moment.

  114. 114.

    Mnemosyne

    @JPL:

    One of the problems that I had with Twelve Years A Slave is the use of the bible as an excuse.

    Fred Clark at Slacktivist has had some really good coverage lately pointing out that the Southern Baptists were formed to defend slavery and a huge part of modern-day Christian Fundamentalism is rooted in racist theology.

  116. 116.

    Corner Stone

    @gbear: I guess that’s fair. I’ve only ever worn them as a hunting jacket or winter overalls underneath a winter jacket. Never as day to day clothes so maybe I’ve been missing out.

  118. 118.

    FlipYrWhig

    @Amir Khalid: both HuffPo and Salon live for that kind of finger-wagging: Why That Thing You Recently Enjoyed Was Actually Racist, Sexist, Homophobic, Transphobic, Fat-shaming, and/or Scientology-Promoting.

  119. 119.

    gbear

    @schrodinger’s cat: It’s a brand of clothing that’s most noted as being blue-collar or agricultural work wear for men. Unfortunately, it’s not US made, but it’s pretty well made & long lasting stuff.

  120. 120.

    burnspbesq

    @NotMax:

    Fine. Support somebody else in the primaries. Knock yourself out. Hell, I can think of a couple of people that I would support against her in the primaries (Gillibrand, O’Malley).

    But when she gets the nomination, you’d damn well better be all in for the general. Unless the idea of Janice Rogers Brown replacing Ruth Bader Ginsburg gives you a woody.

  123. 123.

    Mnemosyne

    So we had my traditional birthday dinner at In N Out Burger last night, and the hidden Bible verse was Revelation 3:20 — “Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.”

    I like that they’re having a little fun with the verses now and not just printing the basic evangelical ones.

  126. 126.

    TaMara (BHF)

    @mainmata: There’s a video of them travelling side by side on either side of the road. At one point, they think there were three of them.

    And just a while ago I went to facebook to see that my nephew, who is stormchasing, had photos of another huge tornado. Going to be a rough night for NE/Iowa areas.

  127. 127.

    Amir Khalid

    @NotMax:
    I am as sceptical as anyone here of Hillary’s claim that the Bible is her favourite book. That said, “What’s your favourite book?” is a trickier and more loaded question for politicians than for the rest of us; I’d cut her some slack on this, and not take seriously any answer she gave. But I would have loved an answer of, “Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter.”

  133. 133.

    PaulW

    @NotMax:

    Unless you’re able to get a reliable progressive Dem candidate to win enough primary states, you’re gonna have to live with deciding either between Hillary Clinton and (current most-likely) Ted Cruz. With Cruz probably asking Palin back as the Veep candidate for sh-ts and giggles.

    I know people keep screaming for Sen. Warren to throw her hat in, but she won’t. Who’s left that can reliably challenge She Who Must Be Obeyed?

  136. 136.

    gbear

    @schrodinger’s cat: LL Bean clothes used to be pretty rugged, until all the hippies that found them grew up to be Lexus driving weekend warriors and everything they make became ‘easy-care’. I used to love their flannel shirts but I just toss their catalogs now.

  137. 137.

    Suffern ACE

    @Amir Khalid: I thought it was very good. But my goodness there were tears from a lot of kids. I was surprised that the left complaint isn’t about the supposed race of the baddy, but that pacifism isn’t effective. The good fathers don’t make it, while bad fathers escape. Very complex movie for kids.

  138. 138.

    goblue72

    @Schlemizel: Was there some political calculation in the answer? Certainly. So was there in Bush’s. They are politicians – I’m not going to be “ill” because they act like what they are.

    That said, whatever fantasy liberals want to project into Hillary’s heart (much like they wanted to project onto Obama), fact is Hillary Clinton is pretty stodgy. Consider how many times she changed her hairdo and outfit style trying to avoid looking like a dowdy Boomer mom, until she finally settled on her trademark black pantsuit with pinkish blouse and her Hillary ‘do’ – and then didn’t change the look one iota thereafter. (Contrast that with Michelle Obama’s natural coolness & sense of style that can make an outfit from J Crew look chic.)

    She was raised in an old school, sturdy burgher style Republican household. She was raised Methodist (a pretty middle of the road, mainstream, kinda stodgy, Protestant religion). She taught Sunday school. She has attended church off and on her whole life. In the Senate, she was part of the primarily conservative Sunday prayer group in the Senate (the “Fellowship”) – during which one Sunday session right-winger Sam Brownback supposed apologized to Clinton to his un-Christian treatment of her in the past. She has a whole chapter in her It Takes a Village book talking about religion.

    So yes, a bit calculated, but just because a bunch of Flying Spaghetti Monster atheists on the Internet believe that truly in her heart, she MUST be an atheist, doesn’t make it so. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

  141. 141.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    @Baud: If it’s December 1941 in Casablanca, what time is it in New York? I bet they’re asleep in New York. I bet they’re asleep all over America.

    @beltane: Oh Christ, not within a thousand miles of being preppy.

  142. 142.

    maeve

    @Corner Stone:

    @Corner Stone:

    o contraire

    Carharts are working clothes – here in SE Alaska no one would wear jeans (I actually helped develop an online course in Cold Water Safety and Survival (for K-12 teachers to teach to students) which pointed out how much water jeans absorb – fine in Arid southwest but not so good here)

    Carhartt’s while not so waterproof as your Helly Hansen’s (which actual fisherperon’s wear) are canvas pants (and other clothes) which are not so water absorbant as “jeans”) but more comfortable to wear since they breathe.

    Don’t get me started on the tragedy that XTRA-TUFS are now made in China and the quality has plummeted so we are looking for an acceptable subtitute – we would hardly know our regional identity without XTRA-TUFs

  143. 143.

    Mnemosyne

    @StringOnAStick:

    Not the actual verse, just a reference to it (like Revelation 3:20). And you need to know to look for it. The one on the cups is printed on the inside of the bottom rim and the one on the hamburger wrapped was printed on the back in the bottom corner.

    And, honestly, it doesn’t bother me. It’s very unobtrusive and you have look for it.

  144. 144.

    goblue72

    @Amir Khalid: I know we all want Hillary to be more left than she is – I know I do – and less of the stodgy, former Eisenhower Republican that she is. But fact is, she’s Maggie Thatcher in a pantsuit. Given how right-wing nasty this country is, her beliefs make her a Democrat. In the UK, there’s a solid chance she’d be a Lib-Dem with Tory flirtations. (as opposed to Obama who strikes me as a Lib-Dem with Labour flirtations.)

  145. 145.

    ulee

    If Elizabeth Warren was president, things would fundamentally change. She could never win the presidency, but then, the nation did elect a black president named Barack Obama. So I say, run elizabeth.

  146. 146.

    Corner Stone

    @Amir Khalid: “Mao’s Little Red Book”
    Nothing else is acceptable for the successor to the radically sockulist President Obama.
    Or maybe Sun Tzu.

  148. 148.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    @maeve: People are found wearing unironic tie-dye and Birkenstocks where I live. I saw someone today who was carrying something that looked like a Peter Max tapestry.

  150. 150.

    Corner Stone

    @maeve: Ok, listen. You live in some kind of sockulist paradise where the USG sends each citizen a check from the oil revenues.
    Heck, I’m not sure what to make of your comment at this point.

  151. 151.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    @gbear: Beans still offers their lifetime guarantee. Send it back and they will send you a new one.

  153. 153.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    @goblue72:

    In the UK, there’s a solid chance she’d be a Lib-Dem with Tory flirtations. (as opposed to Obama who strikes me as a Lib-Dem with Labour flirtations.)

    Not a bad comparison. I would be more charitable to Clinton and say that the she would be a solid Lib-Dem.

  156. 156.

    David Koch

    If you had to name one book that made you who you are today, what would it be?

    At the risk of appearing predictable, the Bible was and remains the biggest influence on my thinking. I was raised reading it, memorizing passages from it and being guided by it. I still find it a source of wisdom, comfort and encouragement.

    Which books might we be surprised to find on your shelves?

    You might be surprised to see memoirs by Republicans such as “Decision Points,” by President George W. Bush, and “Faith of My Fathers,” by Senator John McCain.

  157. 157.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    @ulee: Has she ever shown the slightest interest in running? We need good people in the the House and Senate. In some ways, having a liberal Congress is more important than having liberal President. Congress passes the laws. The President just signs them.

  158. 158.

    gbear

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): My main gripe with LL Bean is that they’re shirts have gotten so expensive, and they don’t seem to have sizes over XXL. I’m a 3XL right now and even then it can be hard to find sleeves that aren’t too skinny. I still buy LLBean flannel sheets – the only sheets I’ve slept on for 25 years – even in the summer. I love those.

  161. 161.

    maeve

    @Corner Stone:

    Possibly you don’t know what to think of my comment because it was a response to your comment in which you made a joke about how stone-washed and torn jeans were so yesterday – so I one-upped you by appealing to “norm-core” cred (while denying it was such)

    Also (too) it got lost in translation because I edited it and the edites didn’t all take.

    We are a socialist state (it’s in our constitution – the natural resources (means of production) belong to the peoples) hence the PFD (permanent fund dividend) but the present regime doesn’t accept medicare expansion etc. and rolled back the oil revenue taxes that Sarah Palin (she who shall not be named) actually passed – but only because she wasn’t actually interested in a particular philosophy at that time but thought the bipartisan schtick was her best bet.

    But why bring up the “sockulist paradise” comment? I’d hate to think you were advancing an ad hominem argument – beware of logical fallicies!

  162. 162.

    David Koch

    Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to their “common faith” (Christianity) and told him: “Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East…. The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled…. This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins.”

    This bizarre episode occurred while the White House was assembling its “coalition of the willing” to unleash the Iraq invasion. Chirac says he was boggled by Bush’s call and “wondered how someone could be so superficial and fanatical in their beliefs.”

  163. 163.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    @gbear: I tend toward Brooks Bros. for dress shirts and J.Crew for polo shirts. I also am not in your size range so that issue doesn’t affect me. My issue is that I have long arms and I can’t buy a standard M or L, I need a 16 x 34 or 35 (depending on the cut).* that is one of the things I like about BB, the16 x 34/35 works perfectly.

    *For anyone who want to suggest that a 34/35 sleeve doesn’t qualify as long arms, I’ll note that I am barely 5′-10″ on a good day and my arm span is about 6′ 2″. The average arm span tends to be the same as a person’s height.

  166. 166.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    @maeve: I thought I made the comment about stone washed jeans. I am a bit insulted that you confused me with Corner Stone.

  167. 167.

    Corner Stone

    @maeve:

    because it was a response to your comment in which you made a joke about how stone-washed and torn jeans were so yesterday

    Actually, I was making a joke about Sarah Palin and the rugged individualistness of Alaska.
    If I ever talk about stone washed jeans I want someone to castigate me in the most severe, and sincere, way. And or ways.

  169. 169.

    Corner Stone

    I actually am just shy of 6’2″ now that I’m old, and wear 16.5 with 34/35 shirts.
    Custom Hamilton shirts, to be sure, but still.

  171. 171.

    ulee

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): Don’t know. I was a Hillary supporter when she was running against Obama but I’m pretty soured on her now. She’s too wall street militaristic for me. I bet Warren runs in 16 just because she has a natural constituency (like Satorum) who will work their asses off for her.

  172. 172.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    @ulee:

    I bet Warren runs in 16 just because she has a natural constituency (like Satorum) who will work their asses off for her.

    I’ll bet $20 to the charity of the other’s choice that Warren does not run.

  173. 173.

    Corner Stone

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): As disgusted as you are?
    Yes. I’m not going to describe my having my 5 year old throw up corn dogs, mac & cheese and pudding into my hands one night when he was sick to his stomach. I’m not going to say how the noodles, corn of cobs and other random shit landed in my hands and on my feet.
    But this? This feeling was worse.

  174. 174.

    the Conster

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name):

    My sense is that she actually sees herself more as Ted Kennedy’s replacement, but instead of being a champion of health care which has already come to pass (thanks Obama!), she’s fighting for economic fairness. I think that’s her best and highest use.

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    burnspbesq

    @PaulW:

    Slow down there, bunky. All the Supremes did was say that Susan B. Anthony List has standing. There’s been no decision on the merits. The case goes back to District Court.

    And just for the record, there is no way on God’s green earth that I am down with unelected state bureaucrats censoring campaign rhetoric.

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    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    @ulee: I think you mean Rand Paul, right? I have no clue who will be vomited out as the candidate by the GOP. My random guess is Santorum since he was the number two last time. But, at the same time, he is bug-fuck nuts and I just can’t see how anyone could possibly vote for him.

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    ulee

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): Yes, Rand Paul, thank you. I think he’s the Republican nominee by default. Cruz can flee his Canadian citizenship all he wants, but he is way too slimy for a national race. There is nobody else. I think Perry wants to run, and is trying to make himself look smart by wearing glasses, but he’s dumb, and will fold quickly. I just want Warren to win because I agree with her. It’ll probably be Clinton or Biden. I can live with that, but I’d rather have it all.

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    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    @maeve: FWIW, I don’t wear Carhartt stuff, because I don’t need it for my job or hobbies and I don’t feel like pretending that I do.

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    NotMax

    @Amir Khalid

    Couldn’t give a hoot which book anyone cites as a favorite.

    The link I included was her latest attempt to have her cake and choke on it too regarding the vote on Iraq.

    @others

    Refuse to (1) buy into or (2) accept the inevitability/coronation trope. Trite, but it ain’t over until it’s over, per Mr. Y. Berra.

    And when argument skips directly from ‘don’t support HRC’ to ‘therefore rah-rah for the GOP’ it isn’t worth the effort it takes to reply, frankly.

    As for Supreme Court nominees, that applies in every presidential election, and is something which never mobilizes any but the most junkie of political junkies, unfortunate as it may be to admit. Spent more than a year outlining the whys and wherefores of the same thing online in ’04 as a reason to vote against Bush, and would do so again, but also realize that as a demonstrable motivator to vote among the general electorate it has historically been weak sauce.

    This new tack HRC is taking of preemptively deriding objections or questions as attempts to pin her decisions or record as being ‘political’ is beyond disingenuous, it is arrant nonsense. It’s like saying a surgeon’s decision to operate or not to operate is not medically informed.

    She’s a politician. Of course her decisions, statements and record are both politically weighed and weighted. To not only deny that but to put such a fantasy forth as some kind of an attractive plus is insulting to the public.

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    ulee

    @NotMax: Still, Bill said his favorite Beatle was Paul. Everyone knows the answer is John. He’ll never live that one down.

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    maeve

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name):

    I hear that you don”t wear Carhartt’s. Why do you feel the need to justify that you don’t?

    I’m here for you – I want to understand why you feel that you can’t wear Carhartt’s yet you feel that you need to lash out at Alaskans that do.

    Yours in sympathetic understanding and siblinghood

    Maeve (not my real name)

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    Anne Laurie

    @muddy: Remember ‘hip huggers’? As a high school girl with no waist, I really loved me some hip-huggers, back in the late 60s/early 70s…

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    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    @maeve: I wasn’t justifying and where the fuck do you get the idea that I was lashing out at anyone? I know, like, and respect a large number of people who wear Carhartt clothing. I also tend to find that they are not the most interested in fashion of my friends and acquaintances. If you choose to interpret that as lashing out, it is on you.

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    ulee

    @NotMax: yes, George was a sweetheart. He once commented about lead guitarists these days–Yea, they’re good, but they all sound like the same fellow–. When Harrison played you knew it was him about three seconds in.

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    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    @maeve: Didn’t say best friends, so don’t pull that one out of your ass. “Know, like,and respect” doesn’t remotely imply being best friends with someone. It can mean that I exchange pleasantries with the guy who plows my parking lot and think that he seems like a good guy, etc.

    In my part of the country, it works better to just say that the third jersey of any team is blaze orange.

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    NotMax

    @ulee

    This goes way back, but when was operating the board during the wee hours at the college radio station and the drug- and/or alcohol-infused night owls would call in a request for something by the Beatles, would sometimes pull out the dusty single the station still had of them doing Ain’t She Sweet just to play with their minds.

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    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    @maeve: If you want to make the “some of my best friends” comment, the recipient might will tend to see it as hostile. If it wasn’t what you were aiming for, it was the impression you gave. OTOH, if I jumped too quickly on a debatable comment, I am sorry.

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    ulee

    @NotMax: Good song. Good cover. If Ringo Starr had ever fallen on hard times a celebrity boxing match between him and Pete Best could have happened.

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    maeve

    it was a @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name):

    It was a satirical set of jokes (and those translate worst on the internet so I apologise)

    To recap

    1) A thing about Mom jeans and Obama and Hilary (I use her first name not of disrespect but because there are two)

    2) Someone replied Hilary couldnt have worn Mom jeans back in the day

    3) I responded with a photo of Hilary in striped jeans from 1967 with memory of myself in 1968 in 5th grade wearing similar pants but added that in my Mom’s day (late 40’s early 50’s) the boys in rural Oregon wore jeans to school but there best jeans were not washed to often so they wouldn’t fade. Lamented that stone washed or torn jeans had designer prices.

    4) I mixed up replies between Omnes Omnibus and Corner Stone (mea culpa) who replied that stone washed and torn jeans were so yesterday. One upped (so I thought) them that Carharrts were in style where Iived (SE Alaska).

    5) Here’s were it got muddy – the rebuttal to Carharrts was (what I called) an lashback on Alaskans in general with reference to a “sockcialist state” – so I made a post in response

    and followed up responding to the posts in (what may be lame but I thought satirically) including making mocking “therapy talk” (I hear what you are saying but …)
    and the reference to “my best friends wear Carhartts”

    I know – I’m bad – its passive aggresive verbal twisting – but to me it was just a verbal game.

    So my humor might have been lame and ill considered – and tone on the internet is hard – so it all went sour.

    Sigh – can we be “friends” – and that is a loose term – just meaning really nothing at all but not automatically making assumptions – not “best friends”

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    WaterGirl

    @PaulW: Righteous rant.

    On a less maddening subject, what font did you use for: For 2014, the trends favor the bold!

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