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Brazil v Mexico Open Thread

by Randinho|  June 17, 20142:50 pm| 137 Comments

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Can the hosts prevail or will El Tri pull off a surprise?

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  1. 1.

    Randinho

    June 17, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    Sorry for the delay. For some reason the post missed the schedule.

  2. 2.

    Morzer

    June 17, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    Oh screw it, I’ll pick El Tri to win 2-1. And no, I wouldn’t put as much as a single penny on it.

  3. 3.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    Would love to see the Mexicans prevail

  4. 4.

    japa21

    June 17, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    Brazil 70 gazillion Mexico 0

  5. 5.

    Alex S.

    June 17, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    3-2 Brazil

  6. 6.

    ⚽️ Martin

    June 17, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    I’m pulling for El Tri here. I want to see Brazil earn their cup.

  7. 7.

    princess leia

    June 17, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    No street traffic right now in the barrio of Santa Ana!! Hoping for an El Tri win, just for the fun of the local celebration!

  8. 8.

    Morzer

    June 17, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    @⚽️ Martin:

    Are Brazil the Hillary of soccer? Will their inevitability doom them?

  9. 9.

    ⚽️ Martin

    June 17, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    I should add, the Brazil organizing committee shouldn’t have made the facepalm logo. It is too tempting to the futbol gods to hand Brazil embarrassing losses.

  10. 10.

    Randy Paul

    June 17, 2014 at 3:06 pm

    Did Rafa Marquez clone himself 11 times?

  11. 11.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 3:06 pm

    If Mexico is going to El Tri they need three colors in the uniform. At least they aren’t a terrible haircut gang, however

  12. 12.

    Mathguy

    June 17, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    The referees will see to it that Brazil wins.

  13. 13.

    Morzer

    June 17, 2014 at 3:08 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    You are seeing their away strip. Which, technically, is black, red and gold trim, so three colors kinda/sorta.

  14. 14.

    Randy Paul

    June 17, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    @Mathguy: No, Rafa Marquez will lose control again and get a red card.

  15. 15.

    handsmile

    June 17, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    Hulk won’t be smashing for Brazil today. Ironic that his replacement will be the sidekick-sized Ramires.

    Underwhelmed by the Selecao’s performance against Croatia, their victory in no small part due to the play of 12th man Refereeno.

    While Mexico was victimized as well by refereeing blunders in its opening match, it was still able to secure three points. Difficult to assess El Tri’s quality, however, because Cameroon was truly dreadful that match – only Honduras worse so far in the group stages.

    I have little doubt about the result this afternoon, but I remain skeptical that Brazil merits its pre-tournament status as favorite to hoist the Cup.

  16. 16.

    ⚽️ Martin

    June 17, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    How do you miss that goal?

  17. 17.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    Mexican defense is softer than a freshly warmed tortilla

  18. 18.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Corn or flour?

  19. 19.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 3:14 pm

    Would have to say flour. Now I’m hungry

  20. 20.

    Morzer

    June 17, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    So far there’s been more over-acting in this game than I thought could ever be found outside the Collected Works of Comrade Tom Cruise.

  21. 21.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    Mexican fans are in fine voice, good for them for showing up, lot of red in the stands

  22. 22.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Ever make a relleno burro? Use a whole green chile but, instead of stuffing, batter and fry, stuff it with cheese and wrap in in a warm flour torn con salsa verde.

  23. 23.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    Odd rhythm to this game, depsite possession eve Brazil seems a beat behind

  24. 24.

    Morzer

    June 17, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    So far Mexico’s best player seems to be Fuera de Juego.

  25. 25.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    @raven: No, in fact as a man who loves to cook I freely admit I have no clue as to cook Mexican much to the giggling delight of my buddy’s awesome-cook-San-Diegan-born Mexican wife

  26. 26.

    scav

    June 17, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    @raven: Fiend! Now I want that, with a relleno, and a tamale (seafood from La Superica seeing I’m dreaming anyway), in fact, just take me to La Superica, front of the line, on a tamale night. Flauta, platanos con crema, help!

  27. 27.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    @scav: Ah, the El Bravo on 7th in Phoenix will make you cry for joy!

  28. 28.

    Randy Paul

    June 17, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    Should have been a corner for Mexico just then.

  29. 29.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    Is Mexico coached by Pedro Rose? Seems Pete Rose’s Latin cousin went into futbol, not beisbol

  30. 30.

    Morzer

    June 17, 2014 at 3:26 pm

    We seem to be in some danger of a game of soccer breaking out.

  31. 31.

    ⚽️ Martin

    June 17, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    Regardless of outcome, you can’t say this has been a dull game so far.

  32. 32.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    @Morzer: So far we’ve seen a serious battle of grimacing and leg-clutching

  33. 33.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: This Sunset Mexican Cookbook is a great place to start. Simple, straight forward and over 40 years old. only 21 cents plus shipping!

  34. 34.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 3:29 pm

    @raven: I knew there was a reason to hang out in the soccer open threads, danke!

  35. 35.

    Morzer

    June 17, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    “Referee, I am a poor blind cripple! Tell me, will I ever play the violin again?”

  36. 36.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 3:32 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Sure, for more recent stuff Rick Bayless has quite a few offerings.

  37. 37.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    Brazil’s defense has been outstanding

  38. 38.

    scav

    June 17, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    @raven: Nothing wrong with Diana Kennedy either, although I love Bayless.

  39. 39.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    @scav: No doubt!

  40. 40.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 3:39 pm

    And for French based Mexican

    El Charro Cafe: The Tastes and Traditions of Tucson

  41. 41.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 3:39 pm

    I’m a bookmarking fool, and Brazil is chip-chip-chipping away

  42. 42.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 3:41 pm

    OOOOO!

  43. 43.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 3:42 pm

    Someone please explain to Mexico that it’s OK to kick the ball at the big square net even though the man in front doesn’t want that.

  44. 44.

    Randy Paul

    June 17, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    @raven: His website has some good recipes. I made this one.

  45. 45.

    Alex S.

    June 17, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    Both teams want it SO much, but they just can’t… a little disappointing.

  46. 46.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    How did they not score?

  47. 47.

    peach flavored shampoo

    June 17, 2014 at 3:45 pm

    Did anyone explain to these teams that the object of the game is to get the ball to touch the net?

  48. 48.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    Brazilian footwork on defense is a joy to watch, so deft

  49. 49.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    @Randy Paul: Oh I bet my kale and collards would be good in there!

  50. 50.

    Morzer

    June 17, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    Well, I suspect El Tri will be the happier side. They looked ripe for the slaughter for the first 15 minutes, but have settled down since and given Brazil some nasty moments. I haven’t been impressed by the supposedly all-conquering Seleção in either of their games thus far. I reckon that Holland or Germany will be looking on and saying “Is that all you’ve got?”

  51. 51.

    PaulW

    June 17, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    @peach flavored shampoo:

    Did anyone explain to these teams that the object of the game is to get the ball to touch the net?

    That’s what the overtime kickoffs are for.

  52. 52.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    @raven: I tried to steam some collards on top of the rice in the cooker and it didn’t work, do I have to always boil them for the softness I prefer?

  53. 53.

    burnspbesq

    June 17, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    Who’s that impostor wearing number 10 for Mexico? Everybody knows that Dos Santos doesn’t track back and take care of his defensive responsibilities.

    And for all my Mexican acquaintances who think de Jesus Corona should be playing, that save in the 44th minute is why Ochoa is in there.

  54. 54.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    @Morzer: They certainly seem to be a much stronger team defensively and lacking a bit on offense, something we don’t normally associate with the Brazilians

  55. 55.

    Morzer

    June 17, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    Ochoa looks like a really good keeper. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Premier League come knocking on his door.

  56. 56.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 3:53 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Have you tried steaming and Sauteeing?

  57. 57.

    Morzer

    June 17, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    I have seen them described as the most European team that Brazil has put on the field for a long time (which is not, I suspect, intended as a compliment).

  58. 58.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    That was some great footage of the Mexican coach’s remonstrations on the sidelines

  59. 59.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    Anyone know what that song is they play with the logo as they go to commercial on ESPN?

  60. 60.

    burnspbesq

    June 17, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    @Morzer:

    Especially since he’s available on a free transfer. His contract with Ajaccio ran out at the end of the season, and they got relegated. The club posted a very nice good-bye note on social media.

  61. 61.

    handsmile

    June 17, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    That the net is square in the game you’re watching answers my question whether we are watching the same match. :)

    Brazil very disorganized offensively. Too many (ineffective) displays of individual virtuosity. But I really fear/think that the creaking Julio Cesar will be Brazil’s ultimate undoing (if not today, then in the later rounds).

  62. 62.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    @raven: That is perfect, thank you

  63. 63.

    Morzer

    June 17, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    Anyone else wondering whether fervent chants of “Mexico!” are echoing through the hills of Croatia?

  64. 64.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: I go to a little joint that has a Veg Neck Sammy, thick toasted bread, pimento cheese and collards.

  65. 65.

    Anoniminous

    June 17, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    Cabeção the psychic turtle predicted a Mexican victory over Brazil so don’t see the point of watching the match.

  66. 66.

    burnspbesq

    June 17, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    Anyone else wondering whether Cobi Jones is smiling right now?

  67. 67.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 4:05 pm

    Kobe in da house!

  68. 68.

    Morzer

    June 17, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    That turtle’s going to be in the soup either way.

  69. 69.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    @Anoniminous: Froggysinho the five-legged amphibian with the hallucinogenic frog sweat has predicted that Jim Morrison will eat a snake if the referee allows a spider to kick the mushroom caps lining the sidelines

  70. 70.

    Randy Paul

    June 17, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Julienne and saute them with garlic and olive oil, the way they do here in Brazil. It takes out the bitterness and they taste terrific.

  71. 71.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    Almost a nice catch!

  72. 72.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    @Randy Paul: Lil soy sauce is good with that.

  73. 73.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    Here’s a wonderful story about Tony Gwynn who we lost far, far, too early yesterday.

  74. 74.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: My brother was at a Dodger game where he hit and inside the park grand slam.

  75. 75.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 4:14 pm

    Maybe Mexico will benefit from a Brazilian Brutus who will score an own goal past Julio Cesar

  76. 76.

    burnspbesq

    June 17, 2014 at 4:16 pm

    Right now, Mexico looks the far more dangerous side. Which means Brazil is about to score.

  77. 77.

    Alex S.

    June 17, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    Now you jinxed both of them.

  78. 78.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 4:19 pm

    Huh, lost my feed

  79. 79.

    ⚽️ Martin

    June 17, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    Brazil doesn’t look like a favorite to win here. From what I’ve seen so far, I’d put my money on Germany. They looked like a team and looked solid everywhere.

  80. 80.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    OCHOAAAAAAAAAAA

  81. 81.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 4:27 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: No kiddin!

  82. 82.

    Andrey

    June 17, 2014 at 4:27 pm

    That was some beautiful defense right there.

  83. 83.

    ⚽️ Martin

    June 17, 2014 at 4:28 pm

    Ochoa deserves a free ‘release my family from drug kidnappers’ card. He’s been fantastic so far.

  84. 84.

    Randy Paul

    June 17, 2014 at 4:30 pm

    @⚽️ Martin: 5 saves. 1 shot on target for Mexico, five for Brazil.

  85. 85.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    OK soccer guys. How much hand contact with the opponent is allowed?

  86. 86.

    Lee

    June 17, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    The Mexican defense & particularly their keeper are really doing an outstanding job.

    Not a very pretty job, but damn are they holding up.

  87. 87.

    Lee

    June 17, 2014 at 4:34 pm

    @raven: If you are on the Brazlian team you can basically cock punch your opponent and get away with it.

  88. 88.

    Andrey

    June 17, 2014 at 4:34 pm

    That shot on goal was just terrible. That said, Mexico needs to stop letting Brazil take ten shots for every one of theirs – Brazil will get through eventually at that rate.

  89. 89.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 4:34 pm

    Mexican defense channeling the cadets of Chapultepec in desperate defending

  90. 90.

    scav

    June 17, 2014 at 4:34 pm

    Anyone else having trouble maintaining an internet connection? Although apparently little has changed, not even any new food links.

  91. 91.

    burnspbesq

    June 17, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    Brazil will be a lot more dangerous if they ever figure out how to play through Oscar.

  92. 92.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    @scav: My connection always takes a dive in the late afternoon when people get home from work.

  93. 93.

    danimal

    June 17, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: TGwynn was, is and will always be a hero to me. Such a shame. I spent my youth following SD sports, and the past couple of years have been hard. First Junior, then the Colonel, and now #19. It’s especially hard now that the Padres would be lucky to get relegated to Double A.

    Mexico needs to win this game for their compatriots on the northern border.

  94. 94.

    Lee

    June 17, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    I think at Brazil is starting to panic on the pitch trying to get any sort of shot off.

  95. 95.

    SRW1

    June 17, 2014 at 4:37 pm

    That could have been red. No wonder Silva is pissed with his colleagues.

  96. 96.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 4:37 pm

    I like to see a guy commit a foul and not whine like a baby.

  97. 97.

    Lee

    June 17, 2014 at 4:38 pm

    I think the attack from behind was a bit too much.

  98. 98.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 4:38 pm

    @scav: yes

  99. 99.

    Lee

    June 17, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    I’m watching on univision. Have not had a single connection problem.

  100. 100.

    scav

    June 17, 2014 at 4:40 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: & @raven: whew, but could also be my neighborhood especially. This should be one with higher than usual watching, I’m surprised the cross alley house hasn’t had fireworks yet. Because it’s been distinctly yoyoy (not slow, mistapearing) since the start of these.

  101. 101.

    burnspbesq

    June 17, 2014 at 4:41 pm

    You wonder whether Mexico would be better if Vela were willing to play for them.

  102. 102.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    This motherfucker is great!!!

  103. 103.

    burnspbesq

    June 17, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    Save of the tournament so far.

  104. 104.

    morfydd

    June 17, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    Jesus, Ochoa is amazing.

  105. 105.

    Steeplejack

    June 17, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    Ochoa has been en fuego the whole game. Too bad he has had to be.

  106. 106.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    @Steeplejack: Where ya bean frijole?

  107. 107.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    I still think Mexico’s coach is Pete Rose’s cousin

  108. 108.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    OOOOOOOCCCCCCCHHHHHHOOOOOAAAAAAA

  109. 109.

    burnspbesq

    June 17, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    Does Mexico have a bus to park?

  110. 110.

    burnspbesq

    June 17, 2014 at 4:46 pm

    Lot of contact, but Marcelo over-sold it, and the ref wasn’t buying.

  111. 111.

    Randy Paul

    June 17, 2014 at 4:46 pm

    @Lee: and Mexican players can apparently climb up the opponents’ backs and shove them to the ground. Mexico btw is winning the foul contest by 18 to 13.

  112. 112.

    Paula

    June 17, 2014 at 4:46 pm

    Man, Ochoa standing on his head.

  113. 113.

    Lee

    June 17, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    @Randy Paul: LOL apparently.

  114. 114.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    Marcello going for the Oscar — ba-dum-tssh

  115. 115.

    Steeplejack

    June 17, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    @raven:

    Belgium-Algeria put me in a coma. Been watching this game while yelling in another thread.

  116. 116.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    OH MAH GAH

  117. 117.

    raven

    June 17, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    @Steeplejack: Cool! I had to meet with a lawyer to make a will so I missed that one.

  118. 118.

    SRW1

    June 17, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    Highly entertaining game, but the second so-so performance by the selecao. They’ll need to find a way to step it up a gear if they are serious about the title.

    ETA: First place in the group up for grab.

  119. 119.

    The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik

    June 17, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    The Mexican Goalie was fucking ridiculous, that’s all I can say.

  120. 120.

    Steeplejack

    June 17, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    A moral victory for Mexico.

  121. 121.

    burnspbesq

    June 17, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    Ochoa’s agent’s in-box must be blowing up right about now.

  122. 122.

    Steeplejack

    June 17, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    @The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik:

    Ridiculous?! He was ridonkulous!

  123. 123.

    burnspbesq

    June 17, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    Best performance by Mexico in quite a while.

  124. 124.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 4:53 pm

    Not many 0-0 games have that much excitement. Nice result for Mexico

  125. 125.

    Randy Paul

    June 17, 2014 at 4:53 pm

    @SRW1: More of a masterful performance by Ochoa (are you listening Arsene Wenger?). Brazil still had three times as many shots on target as Mexico.

  126. 126.

    Cacti

    June 17, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    @SRW1:

    Highly entertaining game, but the second so-so performance by the selecao. They’ll need to find a way to step it up a gear if they are serious about the title.

    Ochoa was brilliant for Mexico, but Ju and Thiago Silva both whiffed on two great chances late in the game.

    Ju was probably the worst, just blasting away before turning and seeing the empty net in front of him.

  127. 127.

    burnspbesq

    June 17, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    @Randy Paul:

    are you listening Arsene Wenger

    I sometimes think I’m the only person in the world who think Szczezny has what it takes to be a world-class keeper.

  128. 128.

    scav

    June 17, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    I’m worried about the Google Doodle Octopus in a case of a draw. He’s already got a halo, but I don’t want to see half of him in both boxes.

  129. 129.

    Randy Paul

    June 17, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    @burnspbesq: I do as well, but Fabianski is gone. Would love to have Ochoa as his backup.

  130. 130.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    @scav: The Greeks do, preferably coated with batter and deep fried

  131. 131.

    scav

    June 17, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Isn’t Greece playing? We should save it for their game then. Esp. if they play Japan, as there’s a sushi topping for the other half.

  132. 132.

    burnspbesq

    June 17, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    @Randy Paul:

    Anybody but Karl Darlow, sez the Forest supporter.

  133. 133.

    SRW1

    June 17, 2014 at 5:05 pm

    @Randy Paul:

    In a tight game you can drop three points by the one shot that is on target. Could have happened to Brasil today. The worry has to be that one once is coincidence, twice it becomes suspicious, the third time it’s a pattern.

  134. 134.

    handsmile

    June 17, 2014 at 5:09 pm

    Some very uncomfortable questions await Big Phil. And Dilma Rousseff will have an unhappy few days herself.

    A career-defining match for Ochoa, obviously, but I didn’t see much else from Mexico – especially on offense. Nevertheless, a Round of 16 slot definitely, if very unexpectedly, beckons. But today, a gloriously historical match for El Tri.

    Service will be a problem in many restaurants here in NYC tonight.

  135. 135.

    Randinho

    June 17, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    @SRW1: True, but they’re still in first place in the group and they’re facing the weakest team in the group next Monday.

  136. 136.

    Paula

    June 17, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    @Randinho:

    Who’s meeting them in the Round of 16?

  137. 137.

    SRW1

    June 18, 2014 at 4:38 am

    @Paula:

    The prediction was Holland, but that was under the assumption that Brazil and Holland would finish first and second in their respective groups.

    I think Randinho is right that Brazil still has to be favorit to finish first in group A, but Holland ending up second in group B is very much in doubt. As things look now, Brazil are more likely to face Chile or, possibly, Spain.

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