Here’s Russell Brand’s take on an important question of our time. Caution: bad words are used.
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Here’s Russell Brand’s take on an important question of our time. Caution: bad words are used.
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Morbo
But ISIS no longer exists; we did it!
SuperHrefna
Is the caution because we didn’t like the photo on your last thread? I think those are two very different circumstances. My problem with Brand is that I can never get over how little his nasal, weasely little voice matches his appearance and words. OK, I’ve been avoiding watching this vid for long enough, I will press play…
Corner Stone
If the phrase “to us” is added anywhere in that question, then yes, without a doubt.
Corner Stone
@SuperHrefna:
It may be just a “NSFW” courtesy as the bad words just blurt out after a few minutes of rather tame commentary.
Corner Stone
Mildly On Topic, and since the tag is “Humor”:
A Thin Rationale for Drone Killings
“But the rationale provides little confidence that the lethal action was taken with real care.”
ulee
Isn’t it time for the War on the Fourth of July? Maybe it started and I missed it.
srv
His brothers in ISIS have a better British accent.
I’m sure this will end well for the UK.
satby
I like Brand, for a celebrity he seems to have not forgotten his roots or his struggle with addiction. Too much of an anarchist for me to totally get behind, but I hope some of what he says penetrates the apathetic bubble some younger voters live in.
srv
ISIS is misunderstood, according to a Brit jihadi.
SiubhanDuinne
@ulee:
No, no. That comes later this week. First we have to have the War on Canada Day.
Higgs Boson's Mate
@ulee:
How you doing?
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@SuperHrefna:
I like his writing but, yes, his voice is annoying as hell, especially that high-pitched giggle. Maybe I’ll look for a transcript instead.
SuperHrefna
OK, back now from watching the video. My overall impression is boy, does Russell Brand ever have a problem with strong women. He starts out making some really good points about what she is saying and the way she is saying it and then veers off to group her in with Michelle Obama and the Obama daughters and asks all those bitchy women to stop harassing Barack Obama, cause he’s knackered from “plugging in” to a corrupt system. Which is another bone I have to pick with Brand, the way he keeps encouraging people not to vote because the system is corrupt which is how we Brits ended up with that bloody appalling crowd of Tory wankers in charge, even though the majority hates them and didn’t vote for them. Brand really frustrates me as he is an intelligent man but so lazy and self indulgent. If he could be bothered to think his thoughts all the way through, to really question himself he could be twice the man he is.
But yeah, I think Fox News are similar to ISIS. Both are trying to exploit weaknesses in their host countries to gain more power for their own ideology.
Higgs Boson's Mate
@SiubhanDuinne:
We cannot let the lives lost in the Battle of Carillon to have been lost in vain.
JGabriel
WaPo:
The difference between the left and the right:
Lefties: Save the women and children first!
Righties: Fuck the women and children!
.
MomSense
Is that Judge Janine for real?? I can’t believe that is actually a tv show that is broadcast for people to watch.
ulee
@Higgs Boson’s Mate: The Netherlands just scored so I’m happy. I’m alright, just whittling away a beautiful summer day. Thank you for asking.
LanceThruster
Essential deconstruction.
SiubhanDuinne
@ulee:
Yay! (To both things.)
SuperHrefna
@srv: It’s really difficult. I lived within walking distance of the “Terror Mosque” in London for 13 years, and I still have fuck all idea of what to do to mend this deep division in British life. The core problem is that extremists took over the Islamic RE classes and prayer rooms in British schools and universities a long time ago and taught their hatred in an official setting so many well intentioned people who only wanted to be good Muslims have been sucked in. I saw it happen to a friend of mine. It’s actually very similar to the way Fox News has poisoned the minds of so many Americans, just through a different medium.
Howard Beale IV
@MomSense: She’s on Fox. Her background has most been in dealing with domestic violence cases. International diplomacy? Eh, not so much.
Corner Stone
@Howard Beale IV:
What do you mean? She says she wants to, “bomb them, bomb them again, keep bombing them”.
Sounds to me like she could be a ranking R member on the Senate Foreign Relations committee.
MomSense
@Howard Beale IV:
I can’t imagine that anyone would watch that show.
Redshift
One of the things I’ve been wondering about is how “Baghdad Bob” seems to be a required position in any Iraqi government. I heard the news report yesterday saying that Iraqi government news sources were reporting that the army had retaken Tikrit and cleared all militants from it. I understand putting a positive spin on military operations (all governments do that), but I don’t understand what they think they gain by “reporting” something that’s so obviously false.
Jay C
@MomSense:
Ummm, yes, Jeanine Pirro is “for real” – inasmuch as anything on Fox can have a connection to objective reality – she was one one of the New York GOP’s rising stars once upon a time: a successful DA, she was touted as the “anti-Hillary” for a while, until she hit the FAIL-wall with a couple of ill-starred runs for office (and got sandbagged by her own Party) I had wondered whatever happened to her: ending up as a “reality-TV ‘judge'” on Fox seems an appropriate outcome…..
SuperHrefna
@MomSense: I used to clean cat cages at my local shelter alongside a women who LIVED for that kind of Fox show. She was a deeply paranoid drama queen and frightened of everything. I remember visiting her at her home where she showed me all her quilts ( along with explanations of who she had made them for and why she had taken her quilt back from them after they had betrayed her) and she had a book on her coffee table called something like “200 things you didn’t know you should be afraid of!”.
It was a relief when I gave up that attempt to try to befriend a wing nut. I wanted to see if I could do it. ( answer: no) She was just too exhausting, and lived in a constant state of high pitched drama.
Betty Cracker
Can’t watch the vid at the moment, but yes, Fox News is far more dangerous to Americans and the world at large than a few thousand heavily armed fanatics. Their work on climate change denial alone will ultimately cause more harm than al Qaeda and ISIS combined. I say we start droning those motherfuckers Monday morning as soon as Fox & Friends begins broadcasting.
WereBear
I’m sure each one was only a matter of time.
I once discussed with a woman how she “couldn’t trust anyone” even after an instance where her community had rallied around her after cancer treatment, bringing her food and walking her dog and generally being wonderful to her.
After listening for a bit, I told her “It’s really arrogance, isn’t it? YOU are the only good human you know?”
She had the grace to take it as a sincere insight. Made her thoughtful.
And she wasn’t a wingnut.
donnah
re: FOX dangerous?
It IS dangerous, harmful, and scary. I never watch it, so I had no idea how insidious it is. I recently was a guest in someone’s home, perfectly nice people, but the husband watches FOX every morning. I had no idea of the level of brainwashing they use. Key phrases reoeated over and over, questions posed in such a way that even people who are presenting counter views to FOX’s own cannot answer them convincingly.
The constant drumbeat against Obama is sickening. The pro-Republican guests are always there. News items are skewed dramatically against liberals and the whole nonstop harangue is demoralizing.
I swear, I wanted to take a shower after being in the same room with it. It truly does bore into your brain. Ugh.
Avery Greynold
Not watching. Kinda like me and Al Gore. No matter how good their words are, I find listening painful. In Brand’s case, a video would be worse. Would enjoy reading them.
ulee
The cops in this country are totally out of control. They are busy shooting homeless people and puppy dogs, or assaulting people for jaywalking or smoking marijuana. I have some rough characters in my neighborhood but I can walk my dogs by them and they say hello and pat the pupdogs. Cops, I stay away from.
Citizen_X
@Howard Beale IV:
What, by promoting domestic violence? “Hit those kids! Hit them, again and again, until they learn dad isn’t to be trifled with!”
Ultraviolet Thunder
@donnah:
I spend a lot of time in airports and hotels. In the South often FOX is the program of choice on the ever present TV screens. It just sets my teeth on edge. I HATE that shit. More than once I’ve left a restaurant when I couldn’t find a seat out of view of a TV screen showing FOX. It’s just blatant and very skillful lies, 24 X 7.
ETA: Ricky Gervais just said “Whenever I start getting cold feet about wiping out the entire human race I just watch 5 minutes of any entertainment news show.”
I know how he feels.
Ruckus
@Betty Cracker:
I was told last night that climate change is a government conspiracy to get rid of coal and force us into solar and wind which will never work. In the next breath he was telling me he is waiting for his city to approve his permits to install solar on his roof. I’ve seen disconnect before but I was still pretty speechless.
Ruckus
To answer the question, Fox or ISIS.
FOX. The answer is always fucking Fox. The ISIS wants to take over a country half a world away. Fox wants to control the world with it’s bullshit. Even if the idea is the same the scale is entirely different. Or put it another way, one group dislikes us for what we have done, the other wants us to make the rest of the world hate us for what they want us to be.
ETA for clarity
AxelFoley
Doth yon ursine creature defecate in yonder forest?
Amir Khalid
I don’t know how you could compare Fox News and ISIS as dangers. ISIS doesn’t operate in the US and doesn’t want to. It might have guns and bombs, but it only wants to establish a Sunni Islamic state in Iraq. That might well risk a war with Iran, but ISIS isn’t a danger to any American not on Iraqi soil. Whereas Fox News has no weapons. It merely wants to poison every mind in the US against the Democratic party, particularly President Obama.
I couldn’t stand to look at Jeanine Pirro. I could barely listen to her. What i understood of her words were no more than Fox News’ usual accusations of naivete and weakness against Obama. But I found Russell Brand’s mockery of Pirro’s tone and style, the least important things about her, misogynistic — especially where he mentions the kind of porn her performance reminds him of — and beside the point.
Morzer
I personally wouldn’t trust serial misogynist Russell Brand as far as I could throw him. For my money, he’s the FDL of British leftism.
Mr Stagger Lee
How is Fox Spews any different than those infamous Hutu broadcasters who advocated the slaughter of Tutsi’s in Rwanda in 1995 or (going Godwin here) Der Sturmer? Rhetorical question.
Ultraviolet Thunder
@Ruckus:
I spent the week working in a solar panel factory fixing a laser. The place was running in 24 X 7 full bore production and there were fewer than 40 cars in the huge parking lot. Great big factory running with almost no people in sight. I’m told that the cost of solar cells should drop 50% in the next 5 years as it has in the last 5. We’re considering it for our house after the new roof goes on. Because we’re Godless hippie Communist America-haters apparently.
Currently the break even point, with government grants is around 7 years for a modest system.
John Revolta
This guy’s right about FOX, sure, but he’s just as bad in his own way.
Hey, lefties, don’t even bother to vote!! That’ll show those mean old bankers the error of their ways!
Dolt.
Morzer
@John Revolta:
Right, which is why I compare him to FDL.
Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is my embarrassment.
gogol's wife
@ulee:
I’m ready for the War on the 4th of July. I hate it.
NewsMax headline: “Antarctic Sea Ice Growing Despite Global Warming Warnings.” Oh, that reassures me. Not.
Violet
Fox News’s demographic is old people. Old white people specifically. While my mom was in nursing care I saw more Fox News than I’d seen in a long time. Watching it, I realized how skilfully they are targeting the senior demographic. Not only are they selling fear to a fearful group–old people feel vulnerable and many time they are–they’re also fully aware of how that demographic processes information. Segments are short, themes are repeated, repeated, and repeated. Just when something might be getting too long or complicated for an older person with hearing or memory issues to follow they stop and move on to something else.
Older people, who often have memory issues, eyesight issues and hearing issues, can’t stay focused on a show or topic for too long. Fox News knows this and structures their shows perfectly to take advantage of it. Flashing lights to get attention, theme songs, short segments, repetition. It’s like The Wiggles for seniors.
Mnemosyne
@gogol’s wife:
Isn’t it winter in the Antarctic right now? This seems about as logical as claiming that Buffalo still gets snow in winter so therefore global warming is a myth.
ulee
@Violet: Lots and lots of blonde women’s legs. That is Fox News.
Morzer
@Violet:
The same is true of talk radio – which is why it’s started to lose its power. Too many believers dying off and the average age of the remaining listeners rises every year.
Not before time, IMHO.
Ultraviolet Thunder
@Violet:
Agreed that FOX’s audience skews older, but all news programs seem to use those tricks to some extent to hold viewer interest. I watch news only rarely and intermittently so the gradual change to Short Attention Span Production has been clearly visible over the years.
The difference is FOX assumes their viewers are dunces and treats them accordingly as well.
Sly
@MomSense:
Not only is she real, she got 40% of the vote for New York State Attorney General in 2006.
Of course, the overwhelming majority of New York Republicans would vote for David Berkowitz if he ran on the GOP/Conservative Party line, so that isn’t saying much.
Ultraviolet Thunder
@Morzer:
I recently read that only commuting by car is keeping FM radio profitable. People stuck in cars are the audience keeping FM’s head above water. And who commutes the most by car? People in rural and far-suburban areas. Hence perhaps the bias toward conservative views in radio talk shows and news.
ulee
@gogol’s wife: You’re not alone. My dogs hate the fucking fourth of july.
Morzer
@ulee:
Hey, ulee. Hope things are a bit better for you today.
ulee
@Morzer: Thank you. I’m waiting for Greece and Costa Rica. You Balloon Juicers really are the best.
JCT
@Jay C: Pirro is a spectacular piece of work. She was the DA in Westchester NY when I lived there. I think at some point she was a good attorney until she descended into fame whoredom . Her fall was accelerated by her husband’s indictment for something like 50 counts of tax evasion. She was always polarizing.
Mr Stagger Lee
O/t but I lived how Katrina Vanden Huevel PWNS Bill Kristol.
Amir Khalid
@Ultraviolet Thunder:
News production for the short attention span is all the rage now even in newspapers. More and bigger photos, more white space in page design, no more long pieces that fill up a page with huge blocks of boring grey text. Fewer and fewer reporters. More reliance on corporate press releases. More snippets of news. The dumbing down, it is everywhere.
Corner Stone
@Ultraviolet Thunder:
I have a 45min to 1:15hour commute a few days a week. I hate the commute and waste of my time, but I never turn the radio on as I prefer to contemplate the vagaries of the universe in my own little quiet time.
Violet
@ulee: Glad you are doing better today. Just wanted to let you know that I posted to you about thyroid in last night’s thread. https://balloon-juice.com/2014/06/28/arts-and-crafts-night/#comment-5037890. Some details there re: thyroid levels and circadian rhythms.
gogol's wife
Does anyone know how Arguing With Signposts is?
Corner Stone
@Mr Stagger Lee: I’ve never been a fan of KVH as an on TV spokesperson. She has a halting, awkward, drawn out speaking style that makes it almost impossible to follow her points because she gives her enemies too many pause-y openings.
I like her stances, to some degree, but she is awful on air.
gogol's wife
@Amir Khalid:
I know this sounds ridiculous, but even People magazine has been dumbed down! They have a new editor, and his emphasis seems to be on “what exactly did Shailene Woodley’s makeup artist do to get her those great smoky eyes” and that kind of tripe. People has been my staple magazine to read on the treadmill, but it’s getting too inane even for that purpose!
Ultraviolet Thunder
@Corner Stone:
When I work in the office my commute is about the same. From 2001 – 2012 I rarely listened to the radio. I tstayed off for months at a time. Now for some reason (different vehicle?) I have the great NPR station WDET on about 50% of the time, or CBC for music. Not really sure why I changed.
More often I’m away from home for work driving a rental. I’ll twiddle the dial around the left end until I hear a PBS station and leave that on if I feel like company.
Anyone who believes that the Jews own the media has never driven in the South with the radio on. I have no idea how they support the Christian stations that seem to take up 65% of the dial.
ulee
@Violet: I do not like going to the doctor. They have prescribed way too many meds in the past, including the benzo clonazepam, which was just horrid stopping. I do have several hundred dollars in my HSA. I don’t want to see a doctor but when the autistic person I am paid to help reminds me that his underwear goes on before his sweats, there might just be a problem. Thanks for your info.
gogol's wife
@Mnemosyne:
God knows what “scientific” evidence they’re using.
WaterGirl
@gogol’s wife: I do not, but I have been thinking about him lately, too.
gocart mozart
Is it just me or do you also get the impression that killing brown people gives her a tingly feeling in her nether regions?
Corner Stone
@Ultraviolet Thunder: I’ve noticed a dramatic increase, in probably just the last 18 months, of people doing nothing but texting during that commute alongside me.
It used to be just a few obvious ones, but more and more I see people driving erratically and I can see their head down and their right hand up. If someone is speeding up or slowing down, barely maintaining lane discipline, or severely tailgating someone else, I guarantee they have a smartphone in hand and are texting or playing some damn game on it.
Had a guy on Friday come within 18 inches of smashing broadside into a concrete barrier that formed the left most side of the freeway. Jerked his pickup truck back over into the lane and never hit the brakes or even looked up much, as far as I can tell.
It’s really become an epidemic.
gogol's wife
@WaterGirl:
I think he did consciously leave — he didn’t just disappear without warning. But I miss him and wonder how he is.
gogol's wife
@Corner Stone:
That’s scary.
ulee
@Corner Stone: yup. I drive route 17 an hour and a half once a week to my job (with my pups, great job, they let me bring my dogs) and I’m always watching the oncoming traffic. Half the time I see the top of the driver’s head. Very scary.
Emily Latella
Why is everyone so bent out of shape about Isis, she seems like a fine young lady superhero.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ6ZDQZV9nA
SuperHrefna
@Corner Stone: it’s terrifying. People really don’t seem to understand how dangerous it is to text while driving.
WaterGirl
@gogol’s wife: I must have missed that. I was away for BJ for most of 6 months last year, starting on may 31. Maybe it was during that time?
Have you checked his blog?
Arguing, if you’re out there, you are missed!
patrick II
Tbe underlying problem isn’t FOX, but Rupert Murdoch. His right wing lies for profit infects the English speaking world, including but not limited to, the U.S., England , and Australia. Australia’s prime minister is the Louie Gohmert of national leaders who wants to get rid of the caron tax at the same time its national weather service put two new colors on its weather maps to illustrate temperatures up to 120 degrees thanks in large part to the large Murdoch media presence.
Violet
@ulee: If you are hypothyroid, the good news is, the medication is a hormone your body needs, not some crazy-making drug like clonazepam. Brain fog is a sign of low thyroid (hypothyroid) and improvement can be almost immediate.
For me, I was so bad off when I was diagnosed that I could hardly function and it was a big day for me if I could remember to open the front door and get the mail out of the mailbox right next to the door. That was about all I could do. The very first day I took the Synthroid I could tell a difference and after a few days I started to feel something close to normal. It’s not a benzo or other type of medication–it’s a hormone your body needs. But you need bloodwork first to see what your levels are.
gogol's wife
@WaterGirl:
He changed his nym at some point but I can’t remember what he changed it to. I’m not finding anything later than 2011 for AWS, but I know he had some later incarnation.
PurpleGirl
@ulee: Back a few decades ago I would walk to the Peekskill train station on a certain route. I liked it because it had a sidewalk and it paralleled but didn’t cross a roadway. By chance there was an area on the one street where the drug dealers hung out. My friends weren’t happy that I used that street. Of course I was walking on it at 7 am, and the drug dealers were mostly there overnight. There were a few — may 3 or 4 — who were there when I passed. I never had any problems with them. I smiled at them, they smiled at me; seemingly they knew I wasn’t a potential customer and that was that.
Ruckus
@gogol’s wife:
His last post on his blog was Oct 11, 2011.
Didn’t he align up with someone else to do a music blog?
gogol's wife
@Ruckus:
I don’t know.
SiubhanDuinne
@gogol’s wife:
@WaterGirl:
Funny (funny-peculiar, not funny-ha-ha), I have also been thinking about Arguing With Signposts a lot recently, and hope he’s okay. I also wonder about his lovely cat (Lady Smudge).
AWS, if you’re there and just lurking recently, do please give us a quick shout-out.
PurpleGirl
@gogol’s wife: The ice field may be growing but I’d bet that it isn’t growing as fast or as thick as it once did and should to maintain the climate.
WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne: The fact that all 3 of us have been thinking about AWS makes me wonder if something is going on with him.
Hey, arguing, I hope you will pop in and let us know how you are.
ulee
@PurpleGirl: Cops are armed and have a badge to pretty much do what they think is called for. I just say yessir, nosir, and hope they don’t taze me or shoot my dogs.
dance around in your bones
@ulee: ulee, I don’t know if you’re a pasty white, but I am and I’ve rarely had a confrontation with a cop that scared me.
I guess it’s White People’s Privilege that I get the benefit of the doubt, even that one time I was pulled over on the 405 and miserably failed The Walk, The Finger to the Nose, and various other tests they give.
I wasn’t drunk, just extremely tired after working up in LA all weekend, but even when the cop searched my car and found a small baggie with white residue in it? and asked me what it was? and I said Tylenol? (which was half right, because it had been Tylenol and Codeine) he let me go and was laughing when I drove away.
yeah, white people privilege. Otherwise he might have called in backup and gone all Rodney King on my ass.
SuperHrefna
@dance around in your bones: being all pasty ( helpful in America) and half posh (helpful in the UK) myself the only time I’ve had trouble with cops is when I’m on a picket line. Once I’m on a picket line apparently I lose my various privileges and become the Other, and a target for abuse. It’s really helped me understand what other people go through. Honestly, the US police force scares me silly. They are for most purposes, just another armed gang.
Ultraviolet Thunder
I rarely get trouble from people with badges. A colleague this week told me that it’s because I ‘look like a rich guy’ so people reflexively defer to me. I’m tall, male and have white hair. And a take-no-shit attitude of authority from years of being a manager. But some of that is ingrained attitude and presumed privilege from growing up in the least fucked-with segment of the population. It’s entirely different for my friends of color, as I’ve learned from hanging out with them.
dance around in your bones
@SuperHrefna:
Yeah, we all saw what happened with those pasty student Occupy terrorists, right? Pasty or not, you get the pepper spray up the nose!
Sigh.
That said, the only time I have ever called 911 because some drunk guy was beating on my door and wouldn’t go away (I think he thought I was the girl that lived there before me) I was ever so glad to see the cops roll up and throw that drunk guy on his face as he tried to get back into his car. (Turned out he lived across the street, so they finally just ushered him into his house and let him pass out). They didn’t shoot or taze him or anything.
gogiggs
@Violet: For me it was being cold all the time and starting to lose feeling in my right hand.
Hypothyroidism has a really wide range of effects.
WaterGirl
@dance around in your bones: I called 911
yearsdecades ago when my dog was going nuts barking at the door or window and just wouldn’t quit. The cop was very nice, checked everything out, asked me to get him a light bulb so he could replace the light that was out on my porch. He called me the next day to ask me out, but I declined. Very soon after that I started getting these creepy phone calls at night, almost always just after I had gone to bed, like someone was actually watching the house.My neighbor was a cop (one of the good guys, actually) and he thought it was likely the cop who had come out, as he was 40 years old, still lived with his mom and was kind of strange. The phone company couldn’t put a trap on the line until I filed a police report. The last phone call came the night before the phone company trap was to start at 6am the next day.
Call the cops, get a creepy stalker. Great.
dance around in your bones
@WaterGirl: Ok, that is seriously creepy.
Like Samuel L. Jackson is your neighbor cop creepy.
WaterGirl
@dance around in your bones: Yeah, that was creepy alright. Seriously creepy. Did you see the movie? Does Samuel L. Jackson prevail in the end, or did the good guys win?
Morbo
@Amir Khalid:
This is no longer true as of today. ISIS has declared itself the new caliphate with Abu-Bakr al-Baghdadi as the caliph, and changed its name to simply the Islamic State. Any other form of statehood is apostasy. All other jihadist organizations, indeed all Muslims, must declare allegiance or be apostates. So in practice they’re no more dangerous than Fox News, sure, but they certainly aspire to be moreso.
Obligatorily: no, it is not in America’s interest to attack IS militarily; fuck Fox News.
dance around in your bones
@WaterGirl: As I recall, Samuel L. got popped in the end.
WaterGirl
@dance around in your bones: I might just watch that, then, if I know he gets it in the end! Might be cathartic! Would definitely have to watch it with someone else, though! Maybe in the light of day. :-)
Hope you’re doing okay. Glad you are spending these days with us here.
Corner Stone
@Morbo: Wait a second…how does this bode for Barack “The Islamic Shock” Obama?
John Revolta
@Corner Stone: I dunno, but it’s good news for John McCain.
StringOnAStick
I have an FIL who is 88, showing signs of significant senility, and watches too much CNN, which makes him fearful, but more in a “please don’t fly anywhere, they still haven’t found that plane!” way. My own parents are 82, and are showing signs of senility, but I swear a LOT of it is due to being in the FOX bubble of non-reality. When you have very little contact with other humans and you watch hours of FOX news crap each, it really does screw up your reality testing skills, and losing those is a slippery slope into dementia.
WaterGirl
@StringOnAStick: Maybe we should all write notes to our future selves!
bago
I commiserate with Brand. Growing up in abject poverty and watching the various schemes used to guide, shape and control most people who just want to get on and get by, but using hateful invective to deflect from the actual machinations being put in place… It’s sick,
I know this every time I have to talk to my mom, who is a full on Limbaugh quoting Fox-tard, who literally had her son and my brother blown up multiple times in Iraq come to the defense of neo-cons, because her version of the god of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is better than their version of the god of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.
My brother had to hold his comrades as they bled out to get what? BP was able to buy the rights to the Ramallah Oil Field the month we started withdrawing troops from Iraq? He deals with his PTSD by body-building, and being alone. It’s not right.
The indoctrination runs deep.
Chris
@JGabriel:
Now I get why they’re obsessed with the idea that feminism killed chivalry. It means they don’t have to be chivalrous anymore.
brantl
Everytime I hear Russell Brand reason through something, I like him more, and more. He’s not wrong, on any front.