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Monday Evening Open Thread

by Anne Laurie|  July 14, 20147:40 pm| 96 Comments

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Back to the routine:

Six weeks after being released from five years in Taliban captivity, Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl is expected to return to life as a regular Army soldier as early as Monday, Defense Department officials said late Sunday.

Sergeant Bergdahl has finished undergoing therapy and counseling at an Army hospital in San Antonio, and will assume a job at the Army North headquarters at the same base, Fort Sam Houston, the officials said…

Last Thursday, Senator Carl Levin, a Michigan Democrat who heads the Armed Services Committee, released letters from each of the Joint Chiefs of Staff supporting the repatriation of Sergeant Bergdahl, a rebuttal to critics who said the swap should not have been made.

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Apart from appreciating the blessings of mundane daily life, what’s on the agenda for the evening?

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  1. 1.

    Hill Dweller

    July 14, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    In a sane world all those wingnuts and their media enablers would pay a price for attacking Bergdahl and his family.

  2. 2.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 14, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    Watching Tweety talk about the Cheneys little coffee klatsch with Politico, Michael Tomasky find it remarkable the the Cheneys, Dick, Lynne and Dick Jr Sr, “chose” to go talk to Mike Allen. I’ve seen a lot of people shaking their heads over this today, even Michael Steele, but no one seems to find it odd that Mike Allen and Politco (and Face the Nation, and Meet The Press) invited them.

    On a side note, I always understood that Dick Jr Jr was the Big Dick’s mini-me, the one he was closer to. I can’t help wondering if she’s still pissed about being tossed to the Howler Monkeys when Dick Jr Sr had delusions of being a senator.

  3. 3.

    Anoniminous

    July 14, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    And Yet Another media-driven RWNJ

    OUTRAGE!

    of the Moment disappears into the Didn’t Happen File.

  4. 4.

    Pogonip

    July 14, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    I sure hope this guy is safe. There are a lot of nuts out there, and he’s suffered enough.

    I would like to give props to a really great kid at Verizon who provided wonderful service. Does anyone know how you find the address of a CEO? (I want the props to come DOWN the ladder). You used to go the library and look in Standard and Poor’s, but that was before the Internet.

  5. 5.

    schrodinger's cat

    July 14, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    Wingnuts think TV is reality, so did they suspect Bergdahl to be a terrorist because his story resembles Nick Brody’s story in the TV show Homeland?

  6. 6.

    Waynski

    July 14, 2014 at 8:00 pm

    I think the Cheney’s are just trying to keep the wingnut welfare rolling. They’re clearly shameless psychopaths. The rubes keep buying their BS. Why not keep cashing in on it? Suckers.

  7. 7.

    Violet

    July 14, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    @Pogonip: Google Finance page for the company often has their contact info. Or check the website and send it to the CEO at the corporate address. It’ll get opened by some peon though.

    If this was at a store, send it to the store physical address, attention Senior Manager. That’ll get the kid actual attention rather than waiting for it to go through a bunch of channels.

  8. 8.

    Jay C

    July 14, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    And yeah, “OUTRAGE” over Bowe Bergdahl’s reassignment was the header on network news tonight: though what, exactly, that “outrage” was, was never quite defined: just that there was something, something, “controversy”, and something, something “desertion”, and something “outrage”; and meanwhile, whatever’s going to happen to him is something, something TBD….

  9. 9.

    MattR

    July 14, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    @Pogonip:

    I sure hope this guy is safe. There are a lot of nuts out there, and he’s suffered enough.

    Absultely agree with this, and I hope/assume it is something that has been discussed at several levels and Bergdahl was given the final choice in the matter but I also think it is the perfect middle finger to the right wing nuts and their media rumormongers.

  10. 10.

    rikyrah

    July 14, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    Lachlan Murdoch’s Ascent to the News Corp Throne
    In 2005, Lachlan Murdoch walked away from a worldwide media empire that could have been his. Now, after nearly a decade of exile, power struggles, and near-catastrophic scandals, the firstborn son of Rupert is on the verge of claiming the News Corp. throne.
    By Michael Wolff March 27, 2014

    ……………………….

    From the beginning Rupert waged a campaign to bring Lachlan back into the company. The father held a particular trump card: None of the Murdoch offspring really had any money to speak of. They may have been the children of a billionaire, but they were among the world’s most cash-poor children of a billionaire. Nearly every penny they had was tied up in company shares controlled by the Murdoch Family Trust, which left them with no authority to sell. The Murdoch children were hopelessly dependent on their father—just the way he liked it.

    But fate—and family—intervened. Lachlan was not Rupert’s only personal crisis. In 1999 he had divorced his wife of 32 years, Anna Murdoch, and married Wendi Deng, 38 years his junior, engendering the lasting resentment of his children. But as part of the divorce settlement, a canny Anna had agreed to $100 million—not, as California property law entitled her to, half of Murdoch’s then-$8billion fortune. This on-the-cheap divorce was in exchange for Murdoch’s agreement to make the terms of the Murdoch Family Trust unbreakable. Her three children and Murdoch’s oldest daughter, by his first wife, would remain his only heirs.

    Then Murdoch had two more children with Deng, who began her own campaign to secure a place for her officially disenfranchised offspring. Caught between a rock and a hard place, Murdoch negotiated.

    He needed the agreement of a majority of his four adult children to change the terms of the trust. More than a year of bargaining, and some cold cash, got him part of what he wanted. While his two children with Deng would never become voting participants in the trust, his four older children agreed to share with their new siblings an equal, one-sixth economic interest in it. In return, each of the four was given an immediate $150 million in cash and in company shares that they could sell—enough to buy quite a bit of independence.

    http://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/lachlan-murdoch-newscorp

  11. 11.

    Anoniminous

    July 14, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    @Jay C:

    They have to do something to gin up audience numbers. Otherwise they’ll have to find a Real Job creating some kind of Value.

  12. 12.

    Pogonip

    July 14, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    Also, I would like to become an early-morning person. Has anyone else done this (or vice versa)? I’m looking for the least painful method.

    I’ll pass it on to my son, too. He’s a night person who now has to get up at oh-dark-thirty. He is the reason I became a night person, as when I was pregnant, he would kick all night and sleep all day (or whatever babies do in there when they aren’t active–for all I know he was in there watching an itty-bitty TV). Anyway, recently it would be convenient for us both to be up with the chickens.

  13. 13.

    Eric U.

    July 14, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    @efgoldman: benghazi is one thing, but this has been one of the most disturbing cases of the “granite countertops” attack vector they have been employing for a few years now. Just leave the guy alone

  14. 14.

    beltane

    July 14, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    I hate to link to Sully, but he actually wrote something worthwhile, even commendable, today: http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/07/14/understanding-the-permanence-of-greater-israel/

  15. 15.

    kc

    July 14, 2014 at 8:27 pm

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/sgt-bowe-bergdahl-recaptured-by-taliban-after-wand,36462/

  16. 16.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    July 14, 2014 at 8:27 pm

    24 years ago today I first set my eyes upon this guy with black hair and blue eyes who was a United States Marine. Little did I know that I would fall in love with him. A year later we married, one year, to the hour, after our first meeting. Despite the fact that EVERYONE said it wouldn’t last we are still married 23 years later and more in love than ever. Suck it doubters!

  17. 17.

    Violet

    July 14, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    @Pogonip: Turn off computers and TV and other screens several hours before bedtime. Turn the lights on low to signal to your brain that it’s time for bed. Read up on sleep hygiene and circadian rhythm therapy or modification. There are things you can do, including what and when you eat, what light you’re exposed to, etc. If you don’t have f.lux installed on your computer, go do that at least.

  18. 18.

    kc

    July 14, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    @beltane:

    I hate to link to Sully, but he actually wrote something worthwhile, even commendable, today: http://dish.andrewsullivan.com…..er-israel/

    Meanwhile, David Frum did the opposite: https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/488778742106308609

  19. 19.

    Brian R.

    July 14, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    Bergdahl, Benghazi, Obamacare, whatever it is, these assholes first decide they’re vehemently against it and then eventually figure out why that is.

  20. 20.

    Pogonip

    July 14, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    @Violet: Turn the lights down low…and listen to the Master’s radio? Grin. Anyway, I’ve never heard of f. lux, will look it up.

  21. 21.

    Roger Moore

    July 14, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    @Pogonip:

    Also, I would like to become an early-morning person. Has anyone else done this (or vice versa)? I’m looking for the least painful method.

    I think the most important step is to get to bed on time. Waking up early is a lot easier if it comes after a full night’s rest than if you’re still groggy from lack of sleep. That probably means foreswearing anything containing caffeine after lunch, or even after breakfast, while you’re adapting to the new sleeping schedule. You might also try preparing some stuff in the evening for the next day. It’s easier to get going in the morning if you can just flip a switch and get coffee.

  22. 22.

    lamh36

    July 14, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    BJ Travelers, have any of you guys traveled via Spirit Airlines? If so how was it?

    I’ve heard both good and bad, mostly somewhere in the middle reviews.

    But this review from a blogger I follow did at least make me laugh. It’s from 2012 though and I was wondering if they got any better.

    Spirit Airlines is the Four Loko of the Airline Industry

    …Ol’ raggelly Spirit Airlines. Charging for everything. You’d think all those surcharges would make them great but nawl. They’re the Rush Card of airlines…

  23. 23.

    Pogonip

    July 14, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Congratulations and many happy returns! My parents just had their 66th wedding anniversary. (However, they will still accept contributions towards the divorce.)

  24. 24.

    Violet

    July 14, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    @Pogonip: F.lux: https://justgetflux.com/.

    There are similar things for Android phones. F.lux only works on iPhones, not Android. Works on all computers, though.

  25. 25.

    lamh36

    July 14, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    @Pogonip:

    Read this:

    Turn the lights down low

    And thought of this song: Bob Marley – Turn Ya Lights Down Low

  26. 26.

    Violet

    July 14, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    @lamh36: I haven’t but I’ve heard they charge for everything, even your carry on bag. Maybe you’d get away with your purse for free?

  27. 27.

    PsiFighter37

    July 14, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    On the verge of getting application approved for new apartment. It’s a bit more expensive than I’d like, but the location is just about perfect, and we’ll have enough space so we don’t have to start jettisoning a shitload of furniture when we have to move out.

    The main downside is that we will be doing this move a few days(!!!) before our wedding. I wouldn’t be surprised if I earn a few more grey hairs before this is all said and done.

    I’m also getting materials to apply for a visa to China…apparently there are more documents I need to have now than I did in the past. More things to stress over…

  28. 28.

    Pogonip

    July 14, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    Oddly enough, my son sits around in the dark–a habit he picked up from his grandfather, who spent his first 15 years without electricity–and he’s still a night person. Grandpa’s an early bird, always has been.

  29. 29.

    PsiFighter37

    July 14, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    @lamh36: I feel like I’d just be angry if I did that. Also, having some kind of premier access on airlines is virtually necessary…I’m relatively short (5’6″), and sitting in a standard coach seat on a plane absolutely kills my knees. Hate ’em all I want (and it is plenty), but I’ll keep flying one airline until there’s absolutely zero difference in who you fly. At least for me now, it’s currently United…

  30. 30.

    Mike J

    July 14, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    @lamh36: When you google them the first news article to pop up says that Spirit is the most complained about airline.

    On the plus side, their ramp workers just voted to join the machinists union.

  31. 31.

    Frankensteinbeck

    July 14, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:
    No. They just wanted to spit on the latest thing Obama has done, no matter what it is. Bonus ferocity because Obama must, must, must be delegitimized in any context involving the military and because it means being complete assholes to someone who is already suffering. They actively enjoy that.

  32. 32.

    beltane

    July 14, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    @Pogonip: Circadian rhythm is one of those things that’s at least partially genetically determined. You can do things to help yourself adapt to a sleep schedule that doesn’t naturally suit you, but the new schedule will never feel quite right. Waking up before dawn is something I have always found to be intensely discomfiting but I still managed to do it for many years. As soon as it was no longer necessary, I immediately reverted to my natural sleep patterns.

  33. 33.

    ruemara

    July 14, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Congrats! And many, many more.

    I am trying to drag my butt back to work, because I have forced socialization gathering! YAY! Oh well, it’s not so bad, but I do so hate after work forced gatherings. I do not hate these, however. White wine citrus cupcakes with blackberry jam filling and citrus frosting. All vegan. and IF I stay home, they could be all mine.

  34. 34.

    Mike J

    July 14, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    Home Run Derby time!

  35. 35.

    lamh36

    July 14, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    Damn, they killing Archie in the comics…but wait is it still gonna be called Archie?

    @nycjim: Archie is dead. Takes a bullet intended for a gay friend. http://on.mash.to/1tI2JQ7 pic.twitter.com/mI6a7l76d8”

  36. 36.

    dmsilev

    July 14, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    Recovering after a highly irritating afternoon at work (morning was a tedious editing job, which was OK). Strangest equipment failure mode I’ve seen in a long time; having the computer talk to one instrument caused another one to go haywire. Three hours of debugging, including me getting zapped by a live 110V line, all to discover that someone had flipped an internal switch which they should never have touched. Flip the switch back, all was well. I need a drink. And a very special #$%%-you to the design engineers at Kepco for their highly non-standard implementation of a GPIB listener.

  37. 37.

    Roger Moore

    July 14, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    @dmsilev:

    GPIB

    I think I see your problem…

  38. 38.

    ruemara

    July 14, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    @lamh36: I think that’s just the adult Archie comic arc.

  39. 39.

    NotMax

    July 14, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    @lamh36

    As referenced in April.

  40. 40.

    satby

    July 14, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Happy 24th Anniversary! Well done you!

  41. 41.

    dmsilev

    July 14, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    @Roger Moore: Legacy hardware, what can I say? There’s something to be said for a bus that can connect to instruments made anytime between 1965 and now. It has its issues of course…

  42. 42.

    schrodinger's cat

    July 14, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Congratulations!

  43. 43.

    Gravenstone

    July 14, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    @lamh36: This is a secondary “Archie” title. Not the mainstream one. Still yeah, Archie?

  44. 44.

    lamh36

    July 14, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    @NotMax: well dang, how’d I miss that. I usual keep up on most comic news like this one.

    Maybe I was just reminded cause of the headline.

    I really kinda hate when the comics do stuff like this though.

  45. 45.

    lamh36

    July 14, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    Ok, I’m slipping on my Idris Elba stalking. How did I miss this? Idris Elba, underground drag racing, British accent..um yeah!

    Tonight on BBC America…Idris Elba: King of Speed
    http://www.bbcamerica.com/king-of-speed/videos/idris-elba-is-the-king-of-speed/

  46. 46.

    dmsilev

    July 14, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    @Gravenstone: The more important question of course is “Betty or Veronica?”.

  47. 47.

    Cassidy

    July 14, 2014 at 9:18 pm

    @lamh36: It’s like the Ultimates version of Archie.

  48. 48.

    Baud

    July 14, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    @dmsilev:

    And the only correct answer is “yes.”

  49. 49.

    Mike J

    July 14, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    @lamh36: Finally bringing that to the US? I enjoyed it when it first aired last fall. BBC America finally learned that they couldn’t delay Doctor Who six months. Wish they’d catch on with the rest of the schedule. That and I wish they’d bring over comedy panel shows.

  50. 50.

    Gravenstone

    July 14, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    @Pogonip: Worked 18+ years on third, then got moved to first (not my choice) about three years ago. Your body will eventually adjust to the new schedule, but expect the transition to be difficult for the first couple of weeks to a month. I never tried any of the suggestions other commenters have, I simply started getting up at 0500 rather than 1900. Your individual wake up time might vary depending on how long it takes you to get your bearing and your travel time to work (if applicable). Your body will also dictate when you start going to bed. Eventually, you’ll just adjust to the new “normal”.

  51. 51.

    Gravenstone

    July 14, 2014 at 9:23 pm

    @dmsilev: I believe in the same comic universe that will see him killed, Archie actually got both of them (parallel titles for a bit).

  52. 52.

    Baud

    July 14, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    @Gravenstone:

    I believe in the same comic universe that will see him killed, Archie actually got both of them (parallel titles for a bit).

    I initially misread “titles.”

  53. 53.

    Karen in GA

    July 14, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Happy Anniversary!

    Meanwhile, here at home, Iggy thinks about stuff.

  54. 54.

    lamh36

    July 14, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    @Mike J: I’ve never really understood why they have such long delays from BBC to BBC America.

  55. 55.

    The Other Chuck

    July 14, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    @Violet:

    F.lux only works on iPhones, not Android

    Jailbroken iPhones at that, so unless you jailbroke many months ago or haven’t ever upgraded, you’re probably SOL.

    The android equivalent is called Twilight, and it’s even cooler than f.lux — if you have Hue lights, it’ll adjust those too. The default settings are way too red for my tastes, but that’s adjustable.

  56. 56.

    Iowa Old Lady

    July 14, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    I’m trying to decide if I want to go to the American Library Association’s midwinter meeting in Chicago. Has anyone from here ever been? It’s in early February, right around the time my book is coming out. I’d mostly hang out and look for free books, I guess.

  57. 57.

    raven

    July 14, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    ALBANY, GA (WALB) –
    Alice Coachman Davis, the first black female to win Olympic gold, died Monday. She was 90 years old.

  58. 58.

    Mike J

    July 14, 2014 at 9:31 pm

    With Doctor Who they learned that if people had to wait they’d just download it. Perhaps someday they’ll figure that out for other stuff.

    My guess for the delay is that they try to sell shows off to other people and wind up only showing things nobody else would pay for.

  59. 59.

    The Other Chuck

    July 14, 2014 at 9:32 pm

    @Violet:

    I’ve heard they charge for everything, even your carry on bag.

    All the airlines do that now. I’m actually fine with that, since I rarely have both checked and carry-on. It’s the budget airlines nickel-and-diming me for soft drinks or seat choice (as in any seat choice, not just an upgrade) that rankles me.

  60. 60.

    lamh36

    July 14, 2014 at 9:33 pm

    @Mike J: I could def see that being the case

  61. 61.

    Howard Beale IV

    July 14, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    @lamh36: If you think Spirit Airlines is bad, be lucky we don’t have Ryanair, who wanted to remove the lavatories on their aircraft and also have standing only access.

    Another low-cost carrier, Norweigan Air Shuttle, has taken the airline labor model and filletted it six ways from Sunday-the CEO of Norwegian Air Shuttle makes Frank Lorenzo look like a saint (I.e, flight attendants contracted out of Thailand…)

  62. 62.

    Joel Hanes

    July 14, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    @Pogonip:

    I would like to become an early-morning person

    Mornings, you want bright full-spectrum daylight to push the reset button.

    Get up just before the time you want to be your new regular awakening.
    Go outside, face a big expanse of bright sky for at least ten minutes, drink coffee if you drink coffee, maybe do some stretches.
    Do that at least three mornings in a row – maybe do it indefinitely. In fine weather it’s a pleasure. When the weather’s inclement, face an east window for half an hour.

    Evenings, you want to avoid bright lighting so as not to dilute the morning reset effect.
    Just before your desired bedtime, chill your body somehow — remove a layer of clothing,
    wash hands and face and ears with cold water, or stand in front of a fan or over the AC grille, maybe a cool shower
    trending cooler. Then go to bed.

    This has worked for hunters and fishermen for millennia.

  63. 63.

    aimai

    July 14, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Congratulations to you and the Mr. What a lovely story! Keep it up. I’ve been with Mr. Aimai for 24 years (I think), married for 19. It goes by in a flash.

  64. 64.

    dmbeaster

    July 14, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    Wingnuts are gonna say that Obama let him off to prevent the true scandal coming out about his “treason” so as to avoid further hot water for the deal. There is no shame with that crowd.

  65. 65.

    Davis X. Machina

    July 14, 2014 at 9:43 pm

    Retweeted by J. Bradford DeLong

    Leah McGrath [email protected]_eater 1 hr
    1/2 In private talk, Cheney told [email protected] top brass while still VP that the plan was to invade Iraq AND Iran together…

    Leah McGrath [email protected]_eater 1 hr
    2/2 #Cheney told @GoldmanSachs bankers not doing a dual attack was his biggest regret — banker says statement was met w/ “stunned silence.”

  66. 66.

    Baud

    July 14, 2014 at 9:46 pm

    @Davis X. Machina:

    “Which countries would you like to invade, Dick?”

    “All of them, Katie.”

  67. 67.

    Mike J

    July 14, 2014 at 9:46 pm

    @efgoldman: Better those issues than our Ford Explorer that pulled the uhaul trailer. Had to stop and top up the radiator once an hour. Huge pain in the ass.

  68. 68.

    TheMightyTrowel

    July 14, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    Utterly OT: the spring semester starts next week. I’m co-teaching a new course with a colleague who’s even more of a dragon lady than I am, but who has been on research leave the last few years so the students don’t know that. The seminar sign ups have opened and all the rotten students are flocking to her groups because they know that I won’t take their shit. They don’t know that she’s even more stringent and generally nastier to shitty teenagers. I am laughing my pants off down here.

  69. 69.

    Anne Laurie

    July 14, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Congratulations, and may you share many more happy years together!

  70. 70.

    beltane

    July 14, 2014 at 9:53 pm

    @Davis X. Machina: The Goldman Sachs bankers were probably sitting in stunned silence thinking “Wow, if we only knew what a kook this guy was, we would have never let him serve as VP.”

  71. 71.

    trollhattan

    July 14, 2014 at 9:54 pm

    @Baud:
    Don’t forget North Korea. Nail the triple-axis and you win the gold.

    There is no fate vile enough to be adequate for Cheney.

  72. 72.

    PurpleGirl

    July 14, 2014 at 9:55 pm

    @lamh36: I used Spirit to go to L.A. in 2006 and to Florida a few times in the 1990s. I liked them fine. The thing I liked best was that they flights which were convenient time-wise for me, both on leaving and arriving at my destination. That was before they changed some of the side charges, though. One thing I definitely remember is the returning from West Palm Beach airport, they didn’t have a landing slot at LaGuardia and the counter person told me not to check through and have to wait on the secure side. I checked back with her a couple times until she told me they had the landing slot and would be boarding the plane shortly. (The general area of West Palm has better chairs for sitting in for waiting.)

  73. 73.

    Corner Stone

    July 14, 2014 at 9:57 pm

    @beltane:

    The Goldman Sachs bankers were probably sitting in stunned silence thinking “Wow, if we only knew what a kook this guy was, we would have never let him serve as VP.”

    Bullshit. They were pissed because they hadn’t figured out at the time just how much money they could have made leveraging his genocidal assholishness.

  74. 74.

    Ruckus

    July 14, 2014 at 9:57 pm

    @Pogonip:
    I’ve been a night person for the last 50 yrs. But circumstances(work usually, OK 99.9% work) have at times forced me to get up at the ungodly hour of anytime before 8am. Right now I have to get up around 6am three days a week for work. What I do is go to bed how many hours of sleep I’d like before then. Usually I can get to sleep in 10-15 minutes so that’s great. Unfortunately some nights I can’t and find myself falling asleep after a couple of hrs. Makes for a long next day.
    So my answer for you is why fight it if you don’t have to? I’m up about the same amount of time as most, just not at the same schedule. All works out in the wash.

  75. 75.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 14, 2014 at 9:57 pm

    @Davis X. Machina: EJ Dionne was going through the litany of things Cheney got wrong/lied about in the run up to the war– greeted as liberators, short war, no sectarian conflict– and said Tim Russertt’s interview should be mandatory viewing for reporters and politicos. I wanted to scream at the TV: John McCain said the same fucking things, is still equally silly things, and he’s on TV every fucking day and twice on Sunday saying them.

    Also, too, Tweety has taken to saying “Why did they do it? Why did they want to invade?” My scream: Do you watch your own fucking network? Rachel Maddow did the research and put it all on the screen. In the summer of 2001 Cheney and his crew were talking about getting rid of Saddam and establishing a petrol client state

    SUSKIND: In the first meeting, Rumsfeld says, “Imagine, imagine if
    Iraq was essentially a client state of the United States. Imagine how that
    would look, if they were a friendly state, if we had primacy and access and
    maybe control of their oil fields.” And Rumsfeld is pointed about this in
    the first meeting, in fact, oil fields — oil fields that will be
    essentially our oil fields.

  76. 76.

    Corner Stone

    July 14, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    I hate getting up early.
    Working with people all over the world is not fun. Fuck you, Senor Time Zone.

  77. 77.

    Howard Beale IV

    July 14, 2014 at 10:08 pm

    @Davis X. Machina: If this is even remotely true, its imperative that come 2016 a new party be formed with the sole purpose to:
    (1) Repeal GLBA, Dodd-Frank, CFMA and re-impose Glass-Stegall
    (2) Arrest Bush II, Cheney, Addison, Yoo and send their asses to The Hague to stand trail for war crimes
    (3) Revoke the law licenses of Eric Holder and the sniveling ferret-faced Lanny Breuer for non-feasance in the prosecution of financial crimes conducted against the citizens of the United States
    (4) Arrest Gen. Alexander and James Clapper for lying to Congress and violating the civil rights of the citizens of not only the United States, but the world, and subject them to the Chelsea Manning Treatment while awaiting trial.
    (5) Remove all funding and support from Israel (like they need our billions in support anyway-anything to fuck with the Holy Rollers dispensationalism beilef will be just desserts)
    (6) Constitutional Amendment 0 (zero)-for the Constitution and all US Codes, the explicit definition of a Citizen of the United States will be defined as a human being whose life is limited due to physical limitations of the natural world. Such definitions of citizenship will not be defined or conferred to legal fictions.

  78. 78.

    Baud

    July 14, 2014 at 10:11 pm

    @Howard Beale IV:

    How the hell do you get all that out of “Cheney wanted to invade Iran”?

  79. 79.

    Roger Moore

    July 14, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    @Baud:
    He left out the part where we should still do it even if this isn’t remotely true.

    ETA: That is, he thinks we should still do it. I personally think founding a new party on that platform would only have the effect of letting the Republicans win in 2016, guaranteeing the exact opposite.

  80. 80.

    Karen in GA

    July 14, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    @Pogonip: If you have a week to get adjusted, “walk” yourself around the clock until you’re going to bed at the time you want to. So if you like to go to bed at 3 a.m., but need to go to bed at 10 p.m., stay up until 5 a.m. the first night. The second, stay up until 7 a.m., the third until 9 a.m., etc., each day staying up a little later until you get back around to something near 10 p.m. Now that you’re going to bed at 10 p.m., stick to it religiously, even on nights when you don’t have to.

    Good luck — I’m a night person with a day job myself.

  81. 81.

    kc

    July 14, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    @lamh36:

    really kinda hate when the comics do stuff like this though.

    Me too. Especially to Archie. Archie, for crying out loud!

  82. 82.

    Betty Cracker

    July 14, 2014 at 10:19 pm

    @lamh36: Watch this. Hilarious ditty about bargain airlines. I’m catching a 7 AM flight in the morning and should be in bed right now, but that ain’t happening..

  83. 83.

    gelfling545

    July 14, 2014 at 10:21 pm

    @Pogonip: getting any customer service at all from Verizon is fairly miraculous. Good service certainly deserves praise and possibly to be paraded through the streets and crowned with laurel leaves.

  84. 84.

    Steeplejack

    July 14, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    @Mike J:

    Thanks for changing your nym. And FYWP.

  85. 85.

    schrodinger's cat

    July 14, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    @kc: Me three. Leave Archie alone!

  86. 86.

    Betty Cracker

    July 14, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Congrats!

  87. 87.

    Howard Beale IV

    July 14, 2014 at 10:36 pm

    @Baud: Like I said, “if this was even remotely true.”

    Think about the consequences. The damage we did not only to Iraq and its citizens and our own warriors is bad enough. Adding Iran to the mix? Iran would have made the US pay in so many ways by causing havoc with our puppets in the Middle East.

    Of course, the US training of Iraqi forces showed just how corrupt our own military-industrial complex is, as it was reflected on the Iraqi military. When thugs from Blackwater threatens to kill our US oversight resources, what does the fuck does that tell you?

  88. 88.

    another Holocene human

    July 14, 2014 at 10:36 pm

    @PsiFighter37: I don’t follow you, I’m just shorter than you and JetBlue and SWA are more comfortable to me than United. I know what you mean about knees but for me it was also some lumbar crap at the base of the seatback wrong hgt and size for ppl as small as me and my wife. Ouch.

    Took Amtrak land cruise one way for my last vacation, that was nice. It was in the end a little late to NYC but no worries, my flight home was delayed 8 hrs

  89. 89.

    Howard Beale IV

    July 14, 2014 at 10:43 pm

    @Roger Moore: Believe what you want to believe. The 2014 midterms are close, but 2016 is still some time away-and a lot of things can happen in the interim. Now if you want to say that third parties don’t make a difference, I point you to Ralph Nader in 2000.

  90. 90.

    another Holocene human

    July 14, 2014 at 10:55 pm

    @Howard Beale IV: standing room in US flights is illegal. If they had their druthers we would sit backwards like army grunts in a transport plane but the airlines squealed like stuck pigs about that.

    Silver, a carrier that has done some essential air service white boy welfare contracts in the past proudly hires West Indians instead of US nationals but they have a pleasant accent and I figure they needed the job :) if the thing is successful and they don’t get paid they can find union recruiters at fla airports.

  91. 91.

    mai naem

    July 14, 2014 at 11:06 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I am lost, who’s Dick Jr Jr? It can’t be Mary. Liz’s husband?

  92. 92.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 14, 2014 at 11:17 pm

    @mai naem: Mary, the younger daughter.

  93. 93.

    James E. Powell

    July 14, 2014 at 11:35 pm

    @Howard Beale IV:

    You forgot something:

    7) Free Mumia Abu-Jamal

  94. 94.

    James E. Powell

    July 14, 2014 at 11:39 pm

    @Howard Beale IV:

    Now if you want to say that third parties don’t make a difference, I point you to Ralph Nader in 2000.

    I don’t say that third parties don’t make a difference; I say they don’t do anything good.

  95. 95.

    Barry

    July 15, 2014 at 9:53 am

    @Pogonip: “Grandpa’s an early bird, always has been. ”

    That’s much easier if you grew up with the best light you had being an oil lamp. Maybe a pumped kerosine lantern, for special occasions :)

    You’ll go to bed early, and then wake up earlier.

  96. 96.

    imonlylurking

    July 15, 2014 at 10:28 am

    @lamh36: I just did. It was ok-the charging for every piece of luggage including the carry on was really annoying. (I was on a business trip so I didn’t have to pay for it, at least.) The flight was full and it was on time, both directions. I flew from Minneapolis to Chicago.

    Getting to the gate in Chicago was close to impossible. They have a couple of gates on one concourse and they aren’t marked-and the website was wrong about the gate for my flight. Depending on where you are flying into/out of, be very sure where to go.

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