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You are here: Home / Elections / Election 2014 / Wednesday Morning Open Thread

Wednesday Morning Open Thread

by Anne Laurie|  July 23, 20145:54 am| 115 Comments

This post is in: Election 2014, Open Threads, Republican Stupidity

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State and federal health exchanges are like Domino's vs Pizza Hut, writes 4th Circuit judge pic.twitter.com/E7segP9Y1S

— Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) July 22, 2014

Honestly, if you think both Pizza Hut and Domino's are a-ok, you need more help than an insurance premium subsidy.

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) July 22, 2014

Lemonade from lemons, per the Washington Post:

… The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has raised $3.7 million from 200,000 online donations since Boehner announced his lawsuit on June 25. And before her weekend remarks in Denver, Palin penned an op-ed on Breitbart.com on July 8, in which she declared: “The many impeachable offenses of Barack Obama can no longer be ignored. If after all this he’s not impeachable, then no one is.”

The DCCC sent two fundraising e-mails in the next 24 hours and raised $500,000 in the next four days…

This year, some of the most contested congressional races are in states like Georgia, Louisiana, North Carolina and Michigan, all of which have sizeable black populations that could make the difference in which party controls the Senate. The calculus among some Democrats is that an Obama presidency threatened by the prospect of impeachment would bring black voters to the polls in droves…

…[T]he Clinton impeachment offers another lesson… Republicans, who had opened up a broad impeachment inquiry before election day in November 1998, faced a backlash at the hands of black voters, particularly in the South.

Democrats picked up five seats in the House and didn’t lose any ground in the Senate. For Clinton, those midterm gains were a rarity for a second-term president.

In North Carolina, where Sen. Kay Hagan is in a tight race, black voters proved critical in 1998, making up 20 percent of the vote. As well, in Georgia, where Michelle Nunn is on the ballot, blacks were almost 30 percent of the voters in 1998, up from 19 percent in the 1994 midterm….

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Apart from standing clear while the Repubs shoot themselves in the feet, what’s on the agenda for the day?

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  1. 1.

    Cervantes

    July 23, 2014 at 6:03 am

    Analogies are like pizza.

  2. 2.

    tybee

    July 23, 2014 at 6:08 am

    kingston lost. i has a happy.

  3. 3.

    raven

    July 23, 2014 at 6:09 am

    @tybee: and we get another pig fucker in Athens.

  4. 4.

    sparrow

    July 23, 2014 at 6:09 am

    Heh, the rabid right-wingers thirst for grift money may be the best GOTV tool for the dems. Love it.

  5. 5.

    Mustang Bobby

    July 23, 2014 at 6:15 am

    @tybee: What’s the outlook for Michelle Nunn in the race?

  6. 6.

    raven

    July 23, 2014 at 6:17 am

    @Mustang Bobby: She’s going to be a big time target and her tepid support for ACA is not going to help her IMHO.

  7. 7.

    Schlemizel

    July 23, 2014 at 6:30 am

    More good news on the election front: Good ‘ol Batshit Bachmann says she is contemplating another go at the Republican primaries. I certainly hope this is not just sucker bait as her public appearances do much to throw wingnut insanity into sharp relief.

    Unlike her opposite number, the not-crazy but really stupid Ms Palin, The not-stupid but totally crazy COngresswoman does not seem to have her grift on. I am not aware of her appearing on Fox endlessly, or pedaling a newsletter. So she must not be in it for the money, she is just really insane.

  8. 8.

    Baud

    July 23, 2014 at 6:31 am

    Is the mobile site borked for anyone else?

  9. 9.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 23, 2014 at 6:32 am

    @raven: Politicians are genetically predisposed against actually believing in anything other than getting elected. Backbones are optional.

  10. 10.

    Mustang Bobby

    July 23, 2014 at 6:32 am

    @raven: From what little I heard from Mr. Perdue and his dog-whistle victory speech (“Save our country!”), it’s going to be a tough one.

    But now Jack Kingston will have plenty of time to sit on the panel on Real Time with Bill Maher.

  11. 11.

    Betty Cracker

    July 23, 2014 at 6:36 am

    @Baud: It’s working fine for me (iPhone).

  12. 12.

    Mustang Bobby

    July 23, 2014 at 6:38 am

    @Schlemizel: Oh, I’ll bet there’s grift going on but not as blatant as Palin. Marcus has got to have a new pair of shoes for the fall, and you know how hard it is to coordinate your accessories.

  13. 13.

    Cervantes

    July 23, 2014 at 6:39 am

    @Mustang Bobby: The last poll I saw (last week) showed Nunn leading Perdue 48-41. Among women her lead over him in that poll was 51-35. Among African-American voters it was 86-7. Among male voters, Perdue led Nunn 49-44.

    I think it was a PPP poll.

    It also showed Kingston ahead of Perdue — so there’s that.

  14. 14.

    Mustang Bobby

    July 23, 2014 at 6:45 am

    @Cervantes: Are there already bumper stickers that say PERDON’T? ‘Cuz that would be a natural.

  15. 15.

    Baud

    July 23, 2014 at 6:45 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    I’m on Android chrome. Won’t save nym, switches between mobile and desktop site on its own, and I always get error messages when I comment, although the comment usually appears.

  16. 16.

    Schlemizel

    July 23, 2014 at 6:53 am

    @Mustang Bobby:
    Oh, he grifts from Medicare and other federal programs but that is chump change compared to the best conmen of the GOP. It will be interesting to see if the mouthbreathers of MN-6 send her replacement to DC in the fall or the DFL candidate. Her last race was close with a slightly better Dem running against her so there is some hope.

    The district is on the red to blue list but I do’t see them putting any money into it. Joe Perske (D) has had pathetic fund raising & is about $15k in the hole last I hear. Tom Emmer(Insane) has name, he was the R candidate for gov last time & is on morning radio trying to make his brand of wingnuttery sound reasonable. He raise $800k but is $500k in debt so he has no trouble spending.

  17. 17.

    Betty Cracker

    July 23, 2014 at 6:54 am

    @Baud: Sometimes mine switches between desktop and mobile at random intervals, but I haven’t run into the other issues you mention. I wish I had some good advice for you, but I have no idea what’s going on with it.

  18. 18.

    Betty Cracker

    July 23, 2014 at 6:56 am

    @Mustang Bobby: I love it! Now we have to think of something catchy for Governor Voldemort. We simply must get rid of that no-good bastard this fall.

  19. 19.

    Cervantes

    July 23, 2014 at 7:03 am

    @Mustang Bobby: I have not been in Georgia this year and have not seen those bumper stickers, but they ought to exist.

  20. 20.

    Brian R.

    July 23, 2014 at 7:04 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    Seems like Scott’s toilet paper should lend itself to some kind of image.

  21. 21.

    Brian R.

    July 23, 2014 at 7:08 am

    I know Athens isn’t exactly Berkeley, but I still can’t believe this nutjob is likely going to be their next congressman.

  22. 22.

    JGabriel

    July 23, 2014 at 7:08 am

    Josh Barro:

    Honestly, if you think both Pizza Hut and Domino’s are a-ok, you need more help than an insurance premium subsidy.

    While I agree with Josh’s culinary assessment, the truth is that Josh, like me, lives in NYC – and not everyone in the rest of the country has access to the quality and variety of pizza available here.

    Also, much as I love pizza, I have to think that most people prioritize the affordability of good health care for themselves and their families over the local availability of good pizza.

    I could be wrong about that though.

  23. 23.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 23, 2014 at 7:08 am

    @Betty Cracker: I thought Voldemort was pretty good myself. Here in MO we have the Blunt family dynasty (Sen. Roy Blunt and litter) Back when Matt “Baby” Blunt was Gov, there was a bumper sticker making the rounds that said, “Blunt is not sharp”, and he wasn’t. That boy made a box of rocks look like a MENSA Society meeting.

  24. 24.

    SFAW

    July 23, 2014 at 7:08 am

    what’s on the agenda for the day

    Trying to figure which grocery store to use until Artie T. is back running DeMoulas. (Local ref for AL’s benefit.) Trader Joe’s is OK for a bunch of stuff, but we spend $100-$200 a week at Market Basket, will be tough to find an adequate (a/k/a low-priced with decent quality) substitute.

    Yes, it’s a more pedestrian concern than most.

  25. 25.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 23, 2014 at 7:11 am

    @Brian R.: OOOOHHH!OOOHHH!OOOHHH!!! I know I know! Print his image on every sheet!

  26. 26.

    ThresherK

    July 23, 2014 at 7:12 am

    At what point does a justice’s choice of imaginary pizzas* make him “not American”?

    I’m waitingf for the first Foxholer to crack wise (sic) about a jurist saying “Whole Foods gluten-free”.

    *Two times the wordplay: An imaginary order, from two places which make what some people imagine is pizza. Then again, my dad is from New Haven, so I know a bit about Wooster St.

  27. 27.

    JGabriel

    July 23, 2014 at 7:13 am

    @Cervantes:

    Analogies are like pizza.

    They come with different toppings, but underneath they’re all the same?

  28. 28.

    SFAW

    July 23, 2014 at 7:15 am

    Whole Foods gluten-free

    They have free gluten at Whole Foods? Outstanding! I’ll head right over.

  29. 29.

    JGabriel

    July 23, 2014 at 7:16 am

    @sparrow:

    Heh, the rabid right-wingers thirst for grift money may be the best GOTV tool for the dems.

    I’ve said it before, and I’m sure I’ll say it again: Republicans are Democrats best recruiting tool.

  30. 30.

    SFAW

    July 23, 2014 at 7:17 am

    @JGabriel:

    They come with different toppings, but underneath they’re all the same?

    Everyone’s got one, and they all stink?

    No, wait, that’s not pizza, what was it? Thinking …

  31. 31.

    ThresherK

    July 23, 2014 at 7:20 am

    @SFAW: You can’t get free Tibet either.

    But I do have a box of gluten I bought at WF for breadmaking.

    When I asked the worker there to help me find if they stocked it, it did strike me as funny: This was the place in our town which knew what “gluten free” meant before anyone else. And also the only place to get pure gluten. Part of me felt like I was asking for a bottle of Red dye #2 and a packet of sodium nitrite!

  32. 32.

    JGabriel

    July 23, 2014 at 7:21 am

    @Baud:

    I’m on Android chrome …

    That could explain it. Have you tried the default Android browser? In my experience, Android Chrome is a buggy, slow as constipated shit, resource hog.

  33. 33.

    JGabriel

    July 23, 2014 at 7:21 am

    Dupe. Obligatory “throw dupe comment into moderation” WordPress filter trigger: penis.

  34. 34.

    MomSense

    July 23, 2014 at 7:22 am

    @SFAW:

    I still miss Artie T’s Dad, Mike.

  35. 35.

    Baud

    July 23, 2014 at 7:25 am

    @JGabriel:

    Chrome is the default browser on my phone. These problems have only come up in the last week or so.

  36. 36.

    JGabriel

    July 23, 2014 at 7:26 am

    @SFAW:

    Everyone’s got one, and they all stink?

    No, wait, that’s not pizza, what was it? Thinking …

    Asshole.

    Edited to Add: That’s an answer to your question, not a character judgement.

  37. 37.

    Baud

    July 23, 2014 at 7:31 am

    @JGabriel:
    @Baud:

    I’ve also had similar issues forever on my old iPod touch. It only recently started appearing in Chrome.

  38. 38.

    Baud

    July 23, 2014 at 7:38 am

    Today show went after Michael Moore for being rich.

  39. 39.

    raven

    July 23, 2014 at 7:39 am

    @Brian R.: It has nothing to do with Athens.

    http://www.dot.ga.gov/aboutGeorgiadot/Board/PublishingImages/all_dist.gif

  40. 40.

    JGabriel

    July 23, 2014 at 7:43 am

    @Baud:

    Chrome is the default browser on my phone.

    Hmm. Not unexpected, since Google makes Chrome and Android, but surprisingly Chrome isn’t the default Android browser. Check your apps section and see if there’s an app just called “Browser”. That’s the default Android browser, and I find it works quite well.

    Otherwise, I got nuthin’.

  41. 41.

    JGabriel

    July 23, 2014 at 7:45 am

    @Baud:

    Today show went after Michael Moore for being rich.

    But didn’t go after themselves for being rich assholes?

  42. 42.

    Betty Cracker

    July 23, 2014 at 7:46 am

    @Brian R.: I knew Paul Broun was a blithering nutjob, of course, but I’d never heard about this particular fantasy of his: “President Obama had a plan to take over the country with armed civilian militias.” It really is all about projection with these lunatics.

  43. 43.

    Baud

    July 23, 2014 at 7:47 am

    @JGabriel:

    Moore has a “blue collar” image, so his being rich is a story.

  44. 44.

    Baud

    July 23, 2014 at 7:50 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    At least he didn’t say “gay armed civilian militias.” Progress!

  45. 45.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    July 23, 2014 at 8:02 am

    @JGabriel:

    What Baud said. On both my Nexus 7 and Moto X there is no “Browser” or “Web Browser,” just Chrome. You can download other browsers, but Chrome is the “default” in that it is what comes preloaded.

  46. 46.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 23, 2014 at 8:04 am

    @Baud: Same for Obama: How DARE that uppity n****r be well educated, successful, and rich. He’s the child of a single mother who used food stamps. That’s how I know somebody ghost writ (?) his book! That’s how I know he never could have gotten into Columbia and Harvard with out affirmative action, never could have edited the Law Review without the help of some liberal prof’s help…..etc etc ad nauseum…

  47. 47.

    Baud

    July 23, 2014 at 8:09 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    It’s not quite the same. The Michael Moore story wasn’t questioning Moore’s abilities. The subtext to the Moore story was that it’s hypocritical for a person who claims to fight for blue collar workers to be rich, have many big houses, etc.

  48. 48.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 23, 2014 at 8:14 am

    @Baud: That too, still same for Obama.

  49. 49.

    raven

    July 23, 2014 at 8:16 am

    @Betty Cracker: I see his brother at White Tiger all the time. He doesn’t want to talk about it.

  50. 50.

    Mustang Bobby

    July 23, 2014 at 8:21 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: I got into it with someone on Facebook when they complained about Obama being “disrespectful” of Republicans. After telling them that you get what you give, I made it clear that “disrespectful” was a weasel-word for “uppity,” and waited. Heh. Of course I got the “how dare you call me racist!11! Some of my best friends…” bark bark woof woof. It was a fun way to waste a few minutes, much like playing with a cat and a laser pointer.

  51. 51.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 23, 2014 at 8:24 am

    @Mustang Bobby: I always love it when people say, “I’m not racist!” I like to reply, “Who cares?? Your policies are!”

  52. 52.

    magurkurin

    July 23, 2014 at 8:25 am

    @JGabriel:

    and not everyone in the rest of the country has access to the quality and variety of pizza available here.

    Philly and South Jersey can hold there own. We do alright in the pizza department…and we kick ass in the steaks and hoagies department. Kick Ass.

    Headed home for two weeks next Sunday. South Jersey Shore…..lots a pizza…and don’t forget…..The White House Sub Shop…..and scrapple…

  53. 53.

    magurkurin

    July 23, 2014 at 8:27 am

    why is a comment about Philly/South Jersey pizza in moderation?

    what was the magic word?

    steaks
    hoagies
    White House Sub Shop
    scrapple

    inquiring minds need to know

  54. 54.

    magurkurin

    July 23, 2014 at 8:28 am

    again in moderation

    we can’t talk about Philadelphia pizza up in here?

  55. 55.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 23, 2014 at 8:30 am

    Somebody probably already linked this somewhere but the New Yorker has a great profile on Joe Biden.

    Best nugget of all:

    “I had an interpreter, and when he was showing me his office I said, ‘It’s amazing what capitalism will do, won’t it? A magnificent office!’ And he laughed. As I turned, I was this close to him.” Biden held his hand a few inches from his nose. “I said, ‘Mr. Prime Minister, I’m looking into your eyes, and I don’t think you have a soul.’ ”

    “You said that?” I asked. It sounded like a movie line.

    “Absolutely, positively,” Biden said, and continued, “And he looked back at me, and he smiled, and he said, ‘We understand one another.’ ” Biden sat back, and said, “This is who this guy is!”

  56. 56.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 23, 2014 at 8:43 am

    @Baud:
    @Baud:
    I’ve had the same issues on my iPad Air (default browser Safari) for several months now. At about the same time the BJ settings started getting borked, it did the same thing to my Amazon account and at least one other on-line store where I shop. So weird and annoying.

  57. 57.

    Cervantes

    July 23, 2014 at 8:44 am

    @Baud:

    The subtext to the Moore story was that it’s hypocritical for a person who claims to fight for blue collar workers to be rich, have many big houses, etc.

    They tried that tactic with Ted Kennedy. It failed miserably.

  58. 58.

    Cervantes

    July 23, 2014 at 8:48 am

    @Brian R.: It’s a dilemma. Stupid people deserve representation as much as anyone else.

  59. 59.

    Helen

    July 23, 2014 at 8:50 am

    @Baud: Yes. Because the people who should be fighting are not the ones who have the money and the power but the ones who have no money and no power.

    FFS!

  60. 60.

    Suffern ACE

    July 23, 2014 at 8:50 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: did he talk about how great it is that Hunter Biden got that job at the Ukrainian Gas Company?

  61. 61.

    Cervantes

    July 23, 2014 at 8:51 am

    @SFAW: That family feud is just embarrassing.

  62. 62.

    J R in WV

    July 23, 2014 at 8:51 am

    I’ve been getting a 408 error while commenting here on B-J, using Firefox V30.0. For a while I got it at the other site I comment on too, but they rehooted their commenting code and it went away there.

    The comments seem to load OK, but I lose the ability to edit the terribul speling erors I make sometimes.

    Don’t know who to email about it, so I’m commenting about it from time to time.

  63. 63.

    Another Holocene Human (now with new computer)

    July 23, 2014 at 9:06 am

    @Baud: IOW to buy all the things every blue collar and deprived as a child person buys when they do become successful, which is of course pretty rare these days (but not inconceivable if said blue collar person ends up own a small business or makes a small fortune in an asset bubble, etc).

  64. 64.

    Gin & Tonic

    July 23, 2014 at 9:06 am

    @Cervantes: The Roman Hruska approach.

  65. 65.

    Cervantes

    July 23, 2014 at 9:08 am

    @Gin & Tonic: Well, he had a point. The alternatives are worse.

  66. 66.

    PurpleGirl

    July 23, 2014 at 9:13 am

    @Gin & Tonic: [Big Claps] Great reference.

  67. 67.

    Cervantes

    July 23, 2014 at 9:14 am

    @Another Holocene Human (now with new computer): Right. Moore has to be punished for his temerity and for setting a bad example for his (allegedly former) peers. To the extent he still has power, he must also be silenced. If no other weapon presents itself, then trying to embarrass him with this charge of hypocrisy will have to do: even though it is a stupid charge, it can work, depending on how he responds.

  68. 68.

    C.V. Danes

    July 23, 2014 at 9:14 am

    It would appear that Palin is doing a remarkable job of fundraising for the Democrats. Keep up the good work!

  69. 69.

    japa21

    July 23, 2014 at 9:16 am

    The 4th is located, I believe, in Richmond. I once had a pizza there from a local pizzaria. Based upon that , Pizza Hut or Dominos would be considered gourmet.

  70. 70.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    July 23, 2014 at 9:23 am

    @J R in WV: It wouldn’t surprise me for intermittent time outs like yours to be a result of the size of the comment database. I still think they should turn the older posts with their comments into flat files and purge the old comments.

  71. 71.

    Shakezula

    July 23, 2014 at 9:30 am

    I shall spend my day hoping the Republican Bears don’t throw us Democratic Rabbits into the briar patch.

    @JGabriel: FATAL GORE USES ELECTRICITY.

  72. 72.

    Ruckus

    July 23, 2014 at 9:42 am

    Shooting ones self in the foot is of course not a good thing but usually survivable.
    I believe they are aiming at the other end of the leg.

  73. 73.

    Seanly

    July 23, 2014 at 9:43 am

    I’d be much happier if the Republicans were shooting themselves in the face. Especially if literally…

  74. 74.

    ruemara

    July 23, 2014 at 9:45 am

    I stumbled over some old stuff I wrote: shorts, several cartoon scripts, story synopses, etc. It hit that I am so reliable for all my creative friends. If they need writing feedback, dialogue work, when they have a script- I’m there. People want to work on their next short, I’ll work with them, even donate equipment to the cause. Yet, in going over all this old stuff, I found that nearly everything that I put out there for feedback, not one person has responded to. Besides one friend who said he wanted to read it after work but would have a lot of thoughts then. That was 7 years ago. Helluva long workday. No wonder I don’t finish or promote my work. I can’t even get that key demo of friends & family interested. You feel very much like there’s something awful about the work when you can’t get the people you’re connected to to spend 15 minutes. Yet when I reread these old files, it looks surprisingly good. I just don’t get it, particularly since so many in my circle are creatives in their own right. Frustrating.

  75. 75.

    catclub

    July 23, 2014 at 9:54 am

    @JGabriel: Tossing them around takes more skill than it might appear.

    They sometimes fall flat.

  76. 76.

    Chopper

    July 23, 2014 at 9:58 am

    @Baud:

    Same here on the iPhone. Fuckin wordpress.

  77. 77.

    ThresherK

    July 23, 2014 at 10:01 am

    @magurkurin: I can second that.

    Geographically, I had no idea where Italians didn’t settle on immigration until I left the northeast / urban north as an adult and found out other regions’ pizza often wanting.

    (I’m sure we can substitute “Southwest” and “Mexican food” for “pizza” and “northeast / urban north” above.)

  78. 78.

    WaterGirl

    July 23, 2014 at 10:05 am

    @ruemara: That’s got to be disappointing. And discouraging.

    My suggestion is to decide who you would actually want to critique your work in the future, make a list, and then talk to each of those people individually about how you feel about this.

    That way the conversation isn’t edged by some guilty feeling they have because they meant to get to your thing last week, and didn’t. It also reduces the explanations about why they didn’t get around to that thing they promised to do last week. That way the conversation is about their pattern of not coming through for you, which is really what’s bothering you. Ask them outright f you can count on them to critique your work next time you ask.

    My two cents, worth exactly what you paid for it!

  79. 79.

    Cmm

    July 23, 2014 at 10:26 am

    Last night’s fun: a 19 year old girl found out that you really can die the first time you ever try heroin.

    Also, extremely drunk mom pointed a gun at her two kids (ages 12 and 15) 15 year old kept his cool, got sis outside, recorded mom with his phone waving the gun around and making threats, and then joined sis outside and called 911. Massive respect for this kid, and his sister too. When I had them alone upstairs helping them get some stuff together to go stay with dad, I talked to the boy a little. He gets good grades and is on a sports team at school. I told both of them to keep telling themselves that none of this is their fault, that it isn’t their job to take care of their mom, and that when she says the kinds of things she was saying in the video that it’s the booze talking. That I was really proud and impressed by what they did and to focus on the grades and the sports because that was his ticket to a better life. I hear all the time from people who are now adults who had horrific experiences like this as kids and felt like they were invisible to the world while they were going through hell. I am only one person telling them something one time, and I dont kid myself that it is going to change their world, but at least I could let them know that I saw them, and saw how things were for them.

    And now I am off til Monday and headed to NJ to visit family.

  80. 80.

    Davis X. Machina

    July 23, 2014 at 10:32 am

    @ThresherK:

    Part of me felt like I was asking for a bottle of Red dye #2 and a packet of sodium nitrite!

    For that you need the sausagemaker.com

  81. 81.

    Cervantes

    July 23, 2014 at 10:32 am

    @Cmm: Thanks for all you do. I know it’s not easy. Stay safe.

  82. 82.

    SFAW

    July 23, 2014 at 10:37 am

    @MomSense:

    No argument there, he built it, Artie (in my opinion) enhanced/built on the legacy. Of course, if I remember correctly, Mike was not someone you wanted to cross – nor compete against in the Merrimack Valley.

    And with a name like that, it’s tough to go wrong.

    Are you in MA? For some reason, I had the idea you lived in Red-er environs.

  83. 83.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    July 23, 2014 at 10:39 am

    @ruemara: My experience was that friends and family are the least reliable audience you can have, especially as an adult. Find a creative community that includes critiquing as one of its functions. (I think there are such clubs on deviantArt? Dunno, I’m more wordsmith than visual artist. I’ve heard good things about Absolute Write.)

  84. 84.

    SFAW

    July 23, 2014 at 10:42 am

    @JGabriel:

    Edited to Add: That’s an answer to your question, not a character judgement.

    Coulda been both, and I wouldna been upset.

    But I’m glad I could provide the setup.

  85. 85.

    SFAW

    July 23, 2014 at 10:51 am

    @Cervantes:

    Agreed. I’m disappointed that Artie didn’t but them out 15 years ago, but I’m pissed that Arthur S. had such a hard-on about it that he and his minions took this step. I think there’s a finite possibility that firing Artie will end up destroying the chain, or at least weakening it enough that someone like Stop & Shop buys them. Which will make Arthur S. happy, I guess, but probably no one else in MA/NH.

    I don’t know whether he miscalculated the level of support for Artie, or just didn’t give a skata’ (Please forgive the improper usage, you Ellenes)

  86. 86.

    mai naem

    July 23, 2014 at 10:55 am

    I had something on my twitter feed, I think from the WP saying that Democracy Corps polling had the firewall senate races with the Dems down by a total of 9 points. Can’t be bothered to look up the races – I think Arkansas, LA and Alaska. They are figuring on losing Montana and the N.Dakota ones already. The poll was of a small sample of registered voters. It did concern me that it was Democracy Corps.

    OT, I have Mia Farrow on my twitter feed and she retweeted this pic of Drew Barrymore in 1984 lighting a cigar(ette?) that was in Stephen King’s mouth during the “Firestarter” premiere with a “sad and pathetic” comment. Am I the only one who thinks that is a stupid comment? This was 1984 – I’m not a smoker but I know this was before the smoking ban everywhere but in your home and car system. Jeezus.

  87. 87.

    JGabriel

    July 23, 2014 at 10:56 am

    @magurkurin:

    Philly and South Jersey can hold there own. We do alright in the pizza department…and we kick ass in the steaks and hoagies department. Kick Ass.

    There’s not much I like about going “home” to visit family in PA, but I always make sure to get a cheese-steak hoagie w/peppers, onions, and sauce while I’m out there.

  88. 88.

    JGabriel

    July 23, 2014 at 11:01 am

    SFAW:

    But I’m glad I could provide the setup.

    It was a well-executed setup, compadre. Danke.

  89. 89.

    SFAW

    July 23, 2014 at 11:03 am

    @SFAW:

    didn’t but them out 15 years ago

    “BUY them out”

    What a maroon. Or moran. Or both.

  90. 90.

    SFAW

    July 23, 2014 at 11:04 am

    @JGabriel:
    Bitte sehr

  91. 91.

    Mnemosyne

    July 23, 2014 at 11:08 am

    @ruemara:

    What Sister Rail Gun said — see if you can find a local writers’ group to join, or an inexpensive writing class to take where you can meet people. There’s probably a NaNoWriMo group near you. Friends and family are terrible at critiquing, so it’s better to find someone who doesn’t have a stake in it, so to speak.

  92. 92.

    Original Lee

    July 23, 2014 at 11:10 am

    At least the pizza guy doesn’t grab your stuff when he delivers it because he needsto make up for budget cuts. Jeez, that’s depressing.

  93. 93.

    Mnemosyne

    July 23, 2014 at 11:12 am

    @SFAW:

    I read an article about it that someone posted the other day (I’m on the opposite coast) and it reminds me of the Crown Books family feud that ended up destroying the chain. That one was particularly ugly, though, because it started with the parents’ divorce and became the oldest son vs. the father so the immediate family was forced to pick sides.

  94. 94.

    ruemara

    July 23, 2014 at 11:13 am

    @WaterGirl: it’s a valuable 2¢ that’s worth at least 2$. I think I will be containing my reputation for being a supportive voice. You have to give some to get some, going forward.

  95. 95.

    cmm

    July 23, 2014 at 11:16 am

    @JGabriel:
    Not to mention the mandatory stop at a wawa before returning to Ga, for soft pretzels, hoagies, and Tastykakes.

  96. 96.

    Paul in KY

    July 23, 2014 at 11:27 am

    @Baud: It’s not of course. It is even more of a good thing for a personally rich person to fight for those less fortunate.

  97. 97.

    ruemara

    July 23, 2014 at 11:34 am

    Sadly, all, this is both my writing group & my filmmaking group. It could be a gender thing or a race thing. It happens.

  98. 98.

    Paul in KY

    July 23, 2014 at 11:37 am

    @ruemara: I would love to bleed (mark corrections/comments in a red pen) all over your work. Too bad I’m not in that group.

  99. 99.

    raven

    July 23, 2014 at 11:37 am

    The Dem candidate for Arkansas governor just said that “women being killed was an indication of domestic violence”. This dude is exceptionally smart for Arkansas I’d say.

  100. 100.

    Mnemosyne

    July 23, 2014 at 11:39 am

    @ruemara:

    The whole point of a writing group is that everyone reads each other’s stuff. If someone gives you their stuff to read, I would say go ahead and read it, make your notes, but don’t give them your notes until you get theirs first. Basically, hold their work hostage until they cough up notes for yours. If they “don’t have time” or whatever, well, you don’t have time to give your notes, either.

    My most successful writing groups were mostly women, FWIW. You do kind of need an “enforcer” to set the tone and insist that everyone gives notes on everyone’s work.

  101. 101.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    July 23, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    @ruemara: If these groups aren’t giving you feedback, you need better groups. Period.

    I’ve managed a writing group. Making sure people get critiques, especially if you’re the one having to do them, is a sure way to burning out. Just tell them you don’t have enough spoons to carry the group. There will be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth, but in the end, you’re there for your own progress, not to serve theirs.

    Poke around the fora at Absolute Write and NaNoWriMo. If nothing else, you might find announcements about upcoming local groups in your specific interests.

  102. 102.

    ruemara

    July 23, 2014 at 12:16 pm

    @Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism: I’m gonna try that. Or build my own group.

  103. 103.

    lurker dean

    July 23, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    wingnuts are already down on the UN for trying to take over the world using bike lanes, this will really make them flip.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28438925

  104. 104.

    brettvk

    July 23, 2014 at 12:55 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: Did you hear/do you remember the rumors that surfaced when Baby Blunt withdrew from his reelection bid? Down here in the 7th District the story was that he’d been caught with a male lover.

  105. 105.

    SFAW

    July 23, 2014 at 1:01 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    Some parallels, not sure how much.

    If I understand the history correctly, Arthur T. (a/k/a “Artie”) and Arthur S. – who are cousins – have been fighting for years, maybe decades. Arthur S. thought Artie screwed him out of some money or ownership or some-such thing. Artie’s been running the chain for awhile, don’t know if it started before Mike (Artie’s father) died, or after, or what. But he’s been doing a pretty good job of it, and apparently many, perhaps most, of the employees liked/loved working for him. I think that included upper management, but just a guess on my part. I’m hoping Artie T. comes back, but I’m figuring that’s unlikely, unless Arthur S. has a sudden attack of rationality (and Artie makes him an offer). But I can see the chain failing, if they don’t wise up PDQ.

    And, relative to Crown Books: if I recall, Herb Haft was a longtime asshole. And his hairdo was fucked up, to boot.

  106. 106.

    SFAW

    July 23, 2014 at 1:04 pm

    @brettvk:

    I thought it was supposed to be “dead girl or live boy.” Did that change and I missed it? Although you did only say “male,” not “man,” so that could still be the case.

  107. 107.

    fidelio

    July 23, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    @SFAW: Ask for the BOGO special on seitan.

  108. 108.

    Bob In Portland

    July 23, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    Anyone here figure out the Ukraine scam yet? Over the weekend the Russians did it. Now the Russians just created the conditions.

    Who created the fake recording of the rebels talking about shooting down the airliner a day before the crash?

    In time, my friends, you will figure it out.

  109. 109.

    Trollhattan

    July 23, 2014 at 1:26 pm

    While “True Blood” has devolved into a hot, unguided, mostly unwatchable mess, I have to give it up for this.

    Texas Senator Ted Cruz made a guest appearance of sorts on Sunday’s episode of True Blood on HBO and he’s not pleased about it. On Facebook yesterday, Cruz wrote (https://www.facebook.com/tedcruzpage/posts/10152587281057464) :

    Of all the places I never thought to be mentioned, HBO’s True Blood vampire show would have to be near the top of the list. Sunday night, they aired a misogynist and profanity-ridden episode where Texas Republicans are murdered attending a “Ted Cruz fundraiser.”

    Not just any Ted Cruz fund-raiser, either, but one held at the George W. Bush Presidential Library.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/ted-cruz-has-serious-beef-with-true-blood.html

  110. 110.

    Trollhattan

    July 23, 2014 at 1:26 pm

    @Bob In Portland:
    Hodor!

  111. 111.

    drkrick

    July 23, 2014 at 1:42 pm

    @mai naem:

    OT, I have Mia Farrow on my twitter feed and she retweeted this pic of Drew Barrymore in 1984 lighting a cigar(ette?) that was in Stephen King’s mouth during the “Firestarter” premiere with a “sad and pathetic” comment.

    Of all the age inappropriate things Drew Barrymore was up to in 1984, lighting someone’s cigarette seems like it ought to be pretty far down the list of what to worry about.

  112. 112.

    drkrick

    July 23, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    I read an article about it that someone posted the other day (I’m on the opposite coast) and it reminds me of the Crown Books family feud that ended up destroying the chain. That one was particularly ugly, though, because it started with the parents’ divorce and became the oldest son vs. the father so the immediate family was forced to pick sides.

    I worked for Crown Books for a few months back in the day. The regional Dart Drug chain was the centerpiece of the empire, while the bookstores were the son’s baby. Dad decided to start a beer and wine beverage chain that the son thought was dragging the operation down, and the fight over that eventually led to Dad firing the son. The divorce was Mom’s response to the son’s ejection from the family business – a bit of a Sterling “ok, this is more than I can put up with” vibe come to think of it.

  113. 113.

    Mnemosyne

    July 23, 2014 at 3:36 pm

    @drkrick:

    I worked for them for almost a year (as an assistant manager, even!) They weren’t terrible, but things definitely went downhill once the feud started.

  114. 114.

    SFAW

    July 23, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Then Republicans were right,

    Did you have to wrap your head, to keep your brain from a-sploding when you wrote that?

  115. 115.

    Jebediah, RBG

    July 23, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    @Brian R.:

    Seems like Scott’s toilet paper should lend itself to some kind of image.

    “With Rick Scott, the shit’s already there!”

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