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by John Cole|  August 29, 201411:55 pm| 96 Comments

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  1. 1.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 29, 2014 at 11:57 pm

    Self-evidently not true.

  2. 2.

    Hal

    August 29, 2014 at 11:59 pm

    Diet racism from college humor.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4

  3. 3.

    kindness

    August 30, 2014 at 12:00 am

    Sorry ’bout the Steelers game. It’s still pre-season though.

  4. 4.

    Mnemosyne

    August 30, 2014 at 12:05 am

    Any cat rescue peeps still up? I think I saw a cat who needs help while I was taking an evening walk, but we have NO room for a fourth cat in our 2-bedroom apartment.

    Short version: friendly cat who was so skinny you could feel her spine, but had a big belly, so almost certainly pregnant. We do not have a room where a strange cat could stay separate from our current 3 cats.

  5. 5.

    srv

    August 30, 2014 at 12:09 am

    It’s good John isn’t doing AA, otherwise he’d have to make amends for dull threads

  6. 6.

    Violet

    August 30, 2014 at 12:09 am

    Stomach virus is running around my household. Not a good couple of weeks.

  7. 7.

    Suffern ACE

    August 30, 2014 at 12:11 am

    I’m trying to prepare for the balloon juice fantasy draft tomorrow afternoon. My work fantasy team draft was awful. Tomorrow’s approach will be to only draft players with name without the letters M, T, S, R and E. I hope it works.

  8. 8.

    Another Holocene Human (now with new computer)

    August 30, 2014 at 12:11 am

    @Hal: that was awesome

  9. 9.

    mdblanche

    August 30, 2014 at 12:15 am

    If President Obama is a black man, and he was wearing a tan suit, and he was vowing action against a group of terrorists, then can you guess which Congressman was offended? That’s right, Peter King.

  10. 10.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 30, 2014 at 12:15 am

    @Suffern ACE: Lacy from the Packers.

  11. 11.

    scav

    August 30, 2014 at 12:22 am

    He also serves who also provides the blank canvas (Theo, not Vincent VG for the nonce), let alone leaves the back door unlocked for a party. Late summer blahs seems appropriate, in fact, a damned relief if it could really be managed.

  12. 12.

    srv

    August 30, 2014 at 12:23 am

    @mdblanche: even Putin thinks Obama is a fascist.

    Didn’t Mussolini wear tan?

  13. 13.

    SarahT

    August 30, 2014 at 12:27 am

    Hail, Satan ! (Or Hail, Satin, if you’re a serial killer from Long Island…):

    http://m.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/28/1317272/-Well-well-Satanists-to-use-Hobby-Lobby-to-block-pro-life-propaganda?detail=email

  14. 14.

    GxB

    August 30, 2014 at 12:28 am

    How about opinions on the new-ish Onion effort: Clickhole? It’s a direct rip on the likes of Buzzfeed and its ilk.

    As always, biting satire and some of the stuff is way OTT. Well, they’re in an arms race with the lunatics of the internet so, fire with fire I guess.

  15. 15.

    MattF

    August 30, 2014 at 12:31 am

    And this is not racism, it’s sincere admiration and emulation of a treasured tradition:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/30/nyregion/at-gateway-to-hamptons-ku-klux-klan-advertises-for-new-members.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSumSmallMediaHigh&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

  16. 16.

    Suffern ACE

    August 30, 2014 at 12:33 am

    I think I’m through with internet retail if this “terms of service” abuse catches on. I think we need a constitutional amendment to safeguard the right to be a difficult customer.

  17. 17.

    Mnemosyne

    August 30, 2014 at 12:41 am

    @MattF:

    One of the people interviewed in that story seemed to naively think that the KKK had accidentally tossed their filth into the yards of local Latinos. Yeah … the KKK assholes accidentally let those Latino families know that the KKK knew where they lived.

  18. 18.

    Tommy

    August 30, 2014 at 12:46 am

    @Mnemosyne: I rescued two. I told the story here once and folks tracked me down in other threads to say how cool the story was. I can’t even tell you how long it took me to get the cat to accept me. But she does. Folks come to my house and are stunned my cat is always around me. Lock step with me. She is never more than a few feet from me. She needs my attention close to 24/7. At times it pisses me off, but just a little.

  19. 19.

    Hal

    August 30, 2014 at 12:48 am

    @MattF:

    Similar efforts are underway around the country, Mr. Jones said. In Hampton Bays, Mr. Jones said, the work is being done by a 32-year-old “active exalted Cyclops,” a man he declined to identify but who, he said, lives in town, where he runs a klavern, or local chapter, that is one of three in New York State.

    Yeesh. Probably some dude who lives in his mother’s basement.

  20. 20.

    Tommy

    August 30, 2014 at 1:04 am

    The cat story. I was at a Super Bowl party a few years ago. These teens are throwing these kittens into a little pool. Seem to be getting joy in it. By kittens I mean kittens. They’d fit in my hand they were so young. I went right over and stopped it. Yelled at them that they’d do this. Those kittens came to my household.

    It took a lot of time to get her used to me. They’d literally run into walls trying to get away from me. I put them in a room. Give them shirts I wore to get my scent. Laid in the fetal position for hours until they would come near me. They eventually came around to me. It took effort, a lot of effort, but she is close to my best friend.

    As I type this Mather is pushing my hand. Wanting some love. She needs attention 24/7.

  21. 21.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 30, 2014 at 1:05 am

    @Mnemosyne: Actually, I think accidental is quite possible given my opinion of the ability of KKK types to find their own asses with two hands and a compass.

  22. 22.

    Suffern ACE

    August 30, 2014 at 1:06 am

    I don’t mean to sound judgmental, but I really can’t imagine being so desperate for drugs that I’d eat someone’s drug soaked underwear.

  23. 23.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 30, 2014 at 1:07 am

    @Suffern ACE: And yet each word seems ever so judgment laden.

  24. 24.

    Chris T.

    August 30, 2014 at 1:09 am

    @Mnemosyne: Shouldn’t you mention where this probably-starving probably-momma cat is, that needs a home?

  25. 25.

    Mnemosyne

    August 30, 2014 at 1:24 am

    @Chris T.:

    San Fernando Valley.

  26. 26.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 30, 2014 at 1:28 am

    Dire Straits’ Romeo and Juliet is damn near the perfect pop love song.*

    * I said pop, so Otis and Sam are excluded.

  27. 27.

    PurpleGirl

    August 30, 2014 at 1:33 am

    @Mnemosyne: Sorry but I’m in NYC so can’t help you with a preggers momcat. Maybe two weeks ago I saw a stray older kitten cross my path (from its size maybe 10 weeks old). But I haven’t seen the kitten since.

  28. 28.

    Chris T.

    August 30, 2014 at 1:33 am

    @Mnemosyne: Ah. Way too far away for me, even if I’d gotten moved to California yet, which I haven’t.

    On a different note entirely (since this is an open thread) I just misread a TPM blurb about “gun tourism” as “gun terrorism”. That second phrase seems about right…

  29. 29.

    Villago Delenda Est

    August 30, 2014 at 1:34 am

    @srv: A certain someone who cannot be named without having Godwin go all Godwin on you also wore tan at times.

    As for Peter King, surely there’s a 16 ton weight somewhere in the tri-state area that can be found and accidentally dropped on him.

  30. 30.

    Violet

    August 30, 2014 at 1:35 am

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): I love that song.

  31. 31.

    Violet

    August 30, 2014 at 1:38 am

    @mdblanche: I think this is my favorite part of his spittle-flecked tirade:

    he’s trying to act like real Americans care about the economy, not about ISIS and not about terrorism.

    How dare anyone, especially the Muslim Kenyan usurper, say Real Murkins care about the economy! Everyone knows Real Murkins only care about terrorism!

  32. 32.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 30, 2014 at 1:40 am

    @Violet: But what about this one?

  33. 33.

    PurpleGirl

    August 30, 2014 at 1:43 am

    @Villago Delenda Est: Yes, his uniforms were khaki green, tan, tan with black trousers, many variations on a theme. All specially designed for him and custom made. Nothing off the rack for him. (Have hit the silly time of day.)

    ETA: As certain fictional character used to say: Peter King can kiss mah grits. WTF is he saying about President Obama. Mr. King, it is President Obama. Show some respect.

  34. 34.

    Amir Khalid

    August 30, 2014 at 1:47 am

    @Suffern ACE:
    Are such terms of service legally enforceable?

  35. 35.

    Mnemosyne

    August 30, 2014 at 1:48 am

    I just woke my spouse up out of sound sleep to say those words that every husband loves to hear:

    “OMFG THERE’S A HUGE FUCKING SPIDER IN THE BATHROOM I THINK IT’S A BLACK WIDOW YOU NEED TO KILL IT NOWNOWNOW!”

    (We live in Southern California, so it could very easily have been a black widow — it was very large, very black, and very shiny. Not linking to pictures or I will not sleep tonight.)

  36. 36.

    Violet

    August 30, 2014 at 1:51 am

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): I like that one but love the Dire Straits one.

  37. 37.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 30, 2014 at 1:51 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    Are such terms of service legally enforceable?

    That is not the question to ask. The proper question is whether the terms of service are worth the expense of fighting. Litigation is expensive.

  38. 38.

    Suffern ACE

    August 30, 2014 at 1:52 am

    @Amir Khalid: I’m going to say “no” but since complaining isn’t a recognized right, it may be possible to sign it away in the vast gibbledeegook of the ten page terms of service agreement.

  39. 39.

    Mnemosyne

    August 30, 2014 at 1:53 am

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name):

    Looking over the story, I think it’s worth fighting a company that threatens to ruin your credit over a returned iPhone case. It won’t be cheap, but one would have the satisfaction of doing the right thing.

  40. 40.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 30, 2014 at 1:54 am

    @Violet: I am listening to Making Movies right now.

  41. 41.

    JCT

    August 30, 2014 at 1:56 am

    @Mnemosyne: I had one of those emerge from the faucet of my outdoor sink once- big red hourglass and everything. I nearly lost my shit. Hate spiders!

  42. 42.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 30, 2014 at 1:57 am

    @Mnemosyne: A lawyer will charge at least $250 per hour. A case like that is at least $25,000 out of pocket. Is the satisfaction worth it?

  43. 43.

    Chris T.

    August 30, 2014 at 1:58 am

    @Suffern ACE: Along similar lines, but old enough to have worked its way through the court system: http://consumerist.com/2014/06/26/kleargear-com-ordered-to-pay-306k-to-couple-who-wrote-negative-review/

  44. 44.

    Mnemosyne

    August 30, 2014 at 2:01 am

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name):

    To me, yes, but I’m someone who once ruined my own credit by refusing to pay a hospital bill that my insurance company was supposed to pay. They eventually did, three years later. So I’m probably just the kind of asshole who would go, Fuck me? No, no, fuck you!

  45. 45.

    Amir Khalid

    August 30, 2014 at 2:03 am

    @PurpleGirl:
    A quibble: If them Führerduds were specially designed for him, i.e. no one else wore the same clothing, then they were by definition not uniforms, regardless of any resemblance thereto. And aren’t military-uniform codes very very fussy about conformity?

  46. 46.

    Mnemosyne

    August 30, 2014 at 2:03 am

    @JCT:

    I think it’s pretty clear from the above narrative that I definitely lost my shit. I’m still trying to calm down enough to go to sleep.

    In the middle of it, the cats decided to wander towards the bathroom to see what was going on, which was a whole other level of nightmare for me.

  47. 47.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 30, 2014 at 2:05 am

    @Mnemosyne: if you have a viable case, and you write me monthly checks, I would take the case. OTOH, I would tell you that you are vindicating a feeling – and my engagement letter would note that.

  48. 48.

    Violet

    August 30, 2014 at 2:06 am

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name):
    Can’t get started or I’ll never get to sleep.

  49. 49.

    Suffern ACE

    August 30, 2014 at 2:07 am

    @Chris T.: the solution is to have your friends write the reviews, I guess. I could start a website called writemybadreview.com where I would write the reviews for $5.

  50. 50.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 30, 2014 at 2:09 am

    @Violet: Sleep is overrated. I am going down a YouTube hole. Why shouldn’t you?

  51. 51.

    Mnemosyne

    August 30, 2014 at 2:11 am

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name):

    An ambitious lawyer would see if s/he could get a class action together. It sounds like this isn’t the first time they’ve done this.

    ETA: And, yes, it would be a personal feeling that a company shouldn’t be allowed to charge me $250 and threaten to ruin my credit over a returned iPhone case. I’m funny that way. :-)

  52. 52.

    Chris T.

    August 30, 2014 at 2:11 am

    @Suffern ACE: I like that idea… but if someone doesn’t write a good bad review, can you give them a bad review yourself, or do you have to hire someone else to write a good bad review for the bad-review writer? :-)

  53. 53.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    August 30, 2014 at 2:12 am

    @Mnemosyne: Get either a baseball bat or a piece of closet pole and smash the sucker. Around here, it’s a good chance it’s a widow.

    Just got back from dinner with the wife and kid in honor of their b-days(wife’s is today, kid’s is Wed.). We went to a sushi place in Burbank, pretty good(my niece’s hubby is one of the sushi chefs).

  54. 54.

    Violet

    August 30, 2014 at 2:14 am

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): Because I’m on parent duty tomorrow morning. I can’t afford to be tired. I’m running on little sleep anyway because of the stomach virus running around my household.

    Edit: It is especially tempting with the Dire Straits, though.

  55. 55.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 30, 2014 at 2:15 am

    @Mnemosyne: Class actions are difficult and complicated. And not often in the interest of an individual plaintiff.

  56. 56.

    scav

    August 30, 2014 at 2:15 am

    bagatelle and late night sweet for the late night crowd: Unpublished chapter (short) for early draft of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. The Vanilla Fudge Room

  57. 57.

    Mnemosyne

    August 30, 2014 at 2:16 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    It was dangling from the ceiling, so G got a thick magazine, opened it up, and squished it between the pages. Mistah Kurtz, he dead.

  58. 58.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    August 30, 2014 at 2:18 am

    @Mnemosyne: Speaking of wildlife in our berg. I did a monster walk into our local hills on Tuesday. Before I really hit the hills, Mountain and Campbell, I saw 2 deer in a yard on a house on the corner.

  59. 59.

    Suffern ACE

    August 30, 2014 at 2:19 am

    @Chris T.: won’t be necessary. I’ll either offer to write my bad review myself for an additional charge or send them all to a court supervised mediation at their expense.

  60. 60.

    Mnemosyne

    August 30, 2014 at 2:21 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    Mountain and Campbell is right in our ‘hood. Do you want a pregnant cat? I know where I can get you one (she was hanging out on Dryden).

    ETA: A little north of our ‘hood, technically. There ain’t no apartment buildings above Mountain.

  61. 61.

    Mnemosyne

    August 30, 2014 at 2:27 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    Also, if you’re up that way around dusk, be cautious — one of the reasons G ended up buying a bike is that he ended up in the middle of a triangle of three coyotes while walking in the hills near dark, and he was a little freaked out that they might have been sizing him up for a meal.

  62. 62.

    PurpleGirl

    August 30, 2014 at 2:31 am

    @Amir Khalid: I guess you’re correct. I have heard that Hugo Boss designed the black uniforms of the SS for Himmler. That whole gang were so sartorially obsessed.

  63. 63.

    Villago Delenda Est

    August 30, 2014 at 2:41 am

    @PurpleGirl: They were simply fabulous!

  64. 64.

    PurpleGirl

    August 30, 2014 at 2:42 am

    @Villago Delenda Est: LOL

  65. 65.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    August 30, 2014 at 2:42 am

    @Mnemosyne: I have two dogs that aren’t keen on sharing.

    The house I saw the deer is on the north-east corner of Mountain and Campbell. It’s right below the reservoir, so I suspect the deer may live there. I usually go up there way before sundown, the roads are narrow, unlit and have no sidewalks. The western approach off Pacific is lighted and has sidewalks but I still time it to get down before sundown.

  66. 66.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 30, 2014 at 2:44 am

    @Villago Delenda Est: @PurpleGirl: I don’t think that you know how well my Hugo Boss suit works.

  67. 67.

    Mnemosyne

    August 30, 2014 at 2:46 am

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name):

    So what you’re saying is that it would be cheaper and more satisfying to fly to South Korea, break into the company’s offices, and stuff their curtain rods full of shrimp shells? Just speaking hypothetically, of course.

  68. 68.

    Amir Khalid

    August 30, 2014 at 2:47 am

    @PurpleGirl:
    I’ve read that as a major menswear manufacturer, Hugo Boss supplied uniforms to the 3rd Reich, including those for the SS of course; but my source, our dear friend Wikipedia, also says the Reich itself designed the uniforms.

  69. 69.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    August 30, 2014 at 2:49 am

    A picture from my hike in the hills:
    Glendale with downtown LA in the background

  70. 70.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    August 30, 2014 at 2:50 am

    @Mnemosyne: Ya know, I do have family in Seoul.

  71. 71.

    James E. Powell

    August 30, 2014 at 2:50 am

    @PurpleGirl:

    Showing respect to a black president is how Republicans lose primaries.

  72. 72.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 30, 2014 at 2:51 am

    @Mnemosyne: No. I am saying what you would encounter if you came to a law office and asked about it.

    Remedies outside of the legal arena are outside of my purview. Good luck with any ideas you come across….

  73. 73.

    Mnemosyne

    August 30, 2014 at 2:54 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    In the ceiling tiles would be a good place, too. No one would think of looking inside the ceiling tiles until the stink became unbearable, and maybe not even then.

  74. 74.

    Suzanne

    August 30, 2014 at 2:55 am

    @Mnemosyne: I understand, as I am equally obstinate and contrarian.

    So Spawn the Elder got lice from her half-sister while at her dad’s house. I used the lice shampoo and comb, then her dad, who is currently staying with his mom while he and his wife are on the outs, called to tell me that Spawn couldn’t go to his house for her scheduled dad time because his mom was grossed out. I had to remind him that one doesn’t get to parent only when it is fun and convenient. On a related note, divorcing my ex was great, but divorcing my ex-MIL was even better. Love how she made my kid feel like a plague rat.

  75. 75.

    Tommy

    August 30, 2014 at 2:59 am

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): I say this over and over here. I am an upper middle class white dude. I don’t do this often, but if needed I get a lawyer.

  76. 76.

    Mnemosyne

    August 30, 2014 at 3:02 am

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name):

    Oh, you’re no fun anymore.

  77. 77.

    NotMax

    August 30, 2014 at 3:02 am

    @Amir Khalid

    Am I the only one who remembers the shorter-than-short-lived proposal for Homeland Security uniforms unter den Bush/Cheney administration?

    Pictures and data seem to have been well-scrubbed for the intertubes (too logy right now to search more intensively – just woken from a deep nap by a phone call).

    All black, with lightning bolts insignia. Sound at all familiar, that?

  78. 78.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 30, 2014 at 3:03 am

    @Tommy: Dude, if in doubt, get a lawyer.

  79. 79.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    August 30, 2014 at 3:05 am

    @Mnemosyne: Obviously you’re unfamiliar with Kimchi soup being cooked. Imagine Kimchi gone bad and being boiled.

  80. 80.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 30, 2014 at 3:07 am

    @Mnemosyne: No. I am careful.

  81. 81.

    Villago Delenda Est

    August 30, 2014 at 3:10 am

    @NotMax: There’s a reason I’ve always asserted that the Department of Homeland Security rolled off the tongue better in the original German…Heimatsicherheitshauptamt

    On another note…here’s a clip I just found on YouTube that is really interesting, for you 60’s music fans.

    The woman radiates intelligence, and is so modest about it…because it what turns “pretty” into “beautiful”.

  82. 82.

    Tommy

    August 30, 2014 at 3:13 am

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): It is something, get a lawyer. Years ago I didn’t get a lawyer. I got a DUI. I felt I should just offer up that I was guilty. I was. Not had a moving violation for 25+ years. I felt I should tell the court I was guilty. I was wrong in this. They threw the book at me.

  83. 83.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    August 30, 2014 at 3:23 am

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    On another note…here’s a clip I just found on YouTube that is really interesting, for you 60′s music fans.

    Quite interesting, thanks. I have a picture of George along with his band mates behinds me.

    ETA: Earlier this year I saw this movie, excellent.
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1113829/

    George and Patti were married on my 6th b-day.

  84. 84.

    wasabi gasp

    August 30, 2014 at 3:23 am

    @Tommy:

    That is a great story. Easily my favorite so far. Very nice. I may have to reconsider. I had you pegged as a serial killer.

    Shellac – Prayer To God

    ETA: Although, kittens on the keyboard, bodies in the basement, does have a certain je ne sais quoi.

  85. 85.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 30, 2014 at 3:34 am

    @Tommy: If you are accused of a crime, get a lawyer. Any and every time.

  86. 86.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    August 30, 2014 at 3:35 am

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): And if you want to confess your guilt, get a priest.

  87. 87.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 30, 2014 at 3:40 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA: What guilt? If I was a defense attorney, I would do my very best to ensure that I heard no confession.

  88. 88.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    August 30, 2014 at 3:42 am

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): Isn’t a confession to a priest privileged?

  89. 89.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 30, 2014 at 3:48 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Yes, it is. Morons confess to others though. And a defense attorney is ethically bound to stick with the facts that he or she knows. If you don’t actually know what happened, you can suggest any possible scenario.

  90. 90.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    August 30, 2014 at 3:53 am

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): Ha, ignorance is bliss. :)

  91. 91.

    Jebediah, RBG

    August 30, 2014 at 4:03 am

    @Mnemosyne:

    he ended up in the middle of a triangle of three coyotes

    I had that happen riding up Sullivan Canyon at dusk. I was alone; they were not.

  92. 92.

    Ronzoni Rigatoni

    August 30, 2014 at 6:15 am

    @Tommy: I had a bunch of Lawyers working with me years ago (I was a Union rep for many years), all of whom told me that one never cooperates with a DUI stop. No breath/blood tests, no walking the line or touching noses. 98% (I was told) of cases were in favor of the defendant where there was no chemical or other evidence. Just insist on a lawyer every time a request was made. And don’t say anything else. Not a great experience in the meantime, but this is where “stand your ground” makes a lot of sense. And remember, you are being filmed every step of the way, and ALWAYS GET A LAWYER! This can be expensive, but it beats a conviction. We never lost a member that way. Of course, if you’re gonna get shitfaced, best do it at home LOL.

  93. 93.

    Dolly Llama

    August 30, 2014 at 11:39 am

    College football open thread? Go ‘Eers!

  94. 94.

    Shana

    August 30, 2014 at 12:59 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): Yes, yes it is the perfect love song.

  95. 95.

    Manyakitty

    August 30, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): One of my all-time favorites.

  96. 96.

    Jay C

    August 30, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    @NotMax:

    Or who else remembers the comic-opera-style uniforms President Nixon decided it would be a good idea for the White House Police (as they were called then) to wear, back in the late ’60s? White pants, double-breasted blue tunic with brass buttons, and a weird pointed white cap, like a Weimar Republic border-guard? IIRC, overwhelming public ridicule made them at least replace the cap, and then, after a while, go back to “normal” police uniforms ASAP.

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