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Tuesday Night Open Thread

by John Cole|  September 9, 20147:50 pm| 148 Comments

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I can't believe there's a politician named Zephyr Teachout and she's not the Green Party nominee for Oregon Secretary of Grooviness.

— Michael Schaub (@michaelschaub) September 9, 2014

Other than the election results, I’ve got Sons of Anarchy on my schedule. You?

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  1. 1.

    Elizabelle

    September 9, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    Local PBS has a special Pioneers of Television with Robin Williams at 9, and then Frontline on Ebola at 10.

    And election results from NYS!

  2. 2.

    Corner Stone

    September 9, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    Zephyr Teachout

    Shouldn’t she be leading a drum circle, Cole? Or washing her feet in a patchouli tub?

  3. 3.

    Corner Stone

    September 9, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    I plan to make the perfect pizza using fresh garlic naan bread as the base.

  4. 4.

    Corner Stone

    September 9, 2014 at 7:56 pm

    Also, Tim Geithner. The best Sec Treas, or the best Sec Treas of all time?
    Discuss.

  5. 5.

    Howard Beale IV

    September 9, 2014 at 7:56 pm

    It would amuse me to no end to see Cuomo lose. But somehow, I don’t see that happening.

    OTOH, if it did happen, then maybe we do stand a chance of scaring the ever living shit out of the powers that be and go all-in in creating a veto-proof house that isn’t wed to either the D or R side of the ledger.

  6. 6.

    Corner Stone

    September 9, 2014 at 7:56 pm

    Wendy Davis is on Maddow tonight.

  7. 7.

    Corner Stone

    September 9, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    @Howard Beale IV:

    then maybe we do stand a chance of scaring the ever living shit out of the powers that be and go all-in in creating a veto-proof house that isn’t wed to either the D or R side of the ledger.

    Say what now?

  8. 8.

    ruemara

    September 9, 2014 at 7:59 pm

    Getting prepared to get the sack. Although, the our corporate ruler has not been able to delineate if, & when of the sackitude, since she doesn’t have a real plan for her plan. And they’re still asking me for how to do my job as they thought one of the behavior types could do it with minimal effort but it’s not as simple as they thought. oops.

  9. 9.

    PurpleGirl

    September 9, 2014 at 8:00 pm

    @Corner Stone: That sounds interesting. Let us know how it turns out.

  10. 10.

    PurpleGirl

    September 9, 2014 at 8:02 pm

    @Howard Beale IV: I want her to receive enough votes to put Cuomo into the vulnerable category and make him untenable as a presidential candidate.

  11. 11.

    Corner Stone

    September 9, 2014 at 8:02 pm

    @PurpleGirl: It hasn’t been easy but I’ve been sacrificing myself and my girlish figure to find out what combos work.
    I think I’m winnowing it down to the essence of personal pizza fusion.

  12. 12.

    scav

    September 9, 2014 at 8:03 pm

    Laughing like a demented loon at the symbolic saltire satire over Downing Street and then gifted with this gem of techjargon unleashed with insufficient thought:

    Prince William and the Duchess of Cambridge announced on Monday that following the success of the first royal baby in 2013, a second royal infant is expected to be released next year. The foetus will become fourth in line to the British throne and be little brother/sister to Prince George of Cambridge.

    guard again, but you’ve seen the only interesting part, this is just documentation

  13. 13.

    beth

    September 9, 2014 at 8:03 pm

    Just had two kids from the local high school chorus come to the door selling candles as a fundraiser. Last week I bought wrapping paper from the band fundraiser. Wouldn’t it be a nice world if the arts were fully funded in our schools and the athletes had to go door to door fof once? Just one time please?

  14. 14.

    steve

    September 9, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    “Zephyr Teachout” does sound like a Portlandia character.

  15. 15.

    Anoniminous

    September 9, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    I’d like to see Teachout get the nomination which is unlikely BUT the low turnout is actually bad for Cuomo as a relatively small number of voters can swing the thing.

    Where are you getting your NY results?

  16. 16.

    Corner Stone

    September 9, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    @beth:

    Wouldn’t it be a nice world if the arts were fully funded in our schools and the athletes had to go door to door fof once?

    IMO it would be nice if schools, period, were fully funded for a change.

  17. 17.

    BlueDWarrior

    September 9, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    @beth: I think the arts are even more divisive than sports when it comes to funding discussions.

    Look at how most people talk about pop music in general.

  18. 18.

    Geeno

    September 9, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    @PurpleGirl: We do naan pizza’s all the time. We each make our own to our own desires. I like to go with a pesto sauce base. Anyway – yes, they’re delicious and easy, and you must add them to your dinner line up.

  19. 19.

    Cacti

    September 9, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    @scav:

    Poor Harry.

    Every time his SIL craps out another kid, he gets knocked further down the line.

  20. 20.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    September 9, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    @Cacti: He is probably thrilled by it. Why on earth would he want to be king?

  21. 21.

    Schlemazel [was Schlemizel till NotMax taught me proper yiddish!]

    September 9, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    @Corner Stone:
    At the HS level the athletes beg also. Our kids did car washed cars for hockey, bagged groceries for soccer, sold cand for baseball and gift wrap for softball and probably a couple of things I am forgetting. But I get your point, the public has abandoned school funding for everything.

  22. 22.

    beth

    September 9, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    @Geeno: Made a mashed cauliflower crust pizza the other night for the vegetarian, carb watching child. It was surprisingly good.

  23. 23.

    scav

    September 9, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    @Cacti: Are you crazy!? Spare all the way!

  24. 24.

    Howard Beale IV

    September 9, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Say what now?

    We need the ratfucking of ratfuckings. The current crop of Democraps are nothing more than Neoliberals who let Slick Willie sell out to the banksters who damn near destroyed the global economic system and the current crop of GOPers and nothing more than neo-Feudalisic whores for the Koch’s.

    Voting to keep either the D or R in place says – hey, we got this, no need to worry.

    Voting to neither the D or R commands any significance? Now then you put the fear into government.

    Your choice.

  25. 25.

    Alison

    September 9, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    @Corner Stone: Professor at Hogwarts?

  26. 26.

    PurpleGirl

    September 9, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    @Geeno:
    @Corner Stone:

    I love naan. I often have it for a mid-afternoon snack with spice/cinnamon tea. I could get into making it the base for pizza easily.

  27. 27.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    September 9, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    Going to eat dinner at Ventano’s, allegedly good Italian restaurant in Vegas (Henderson).

    Finally blew up at my mom today—unfortunate confluence of ongoing medical snafu (getting her injured back seen to), overexposure to Fox News and maternal channeling thereof. I doubted whether I could maintain my Zen-like calm for three whole weeks, but I still feel bad that it happened. I think the trigger was watching Boehner’s orange puss begging to be smacked while she said that she thinks Harry Reid is senile.

  28. 28.

    RobinOz

    September 9, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    Grow up, America! We don’t choose our names (usually). Gov Cuomo’s name shouldn’t bias you in favor of him, and Prof. Teachout’s name shouldn’t do the opposite. But I get it, hippies, ha ha ha… We gotta change the culture, and this isn’t helping.

  29. 29.

    Corner Stone

    September 9, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    @Schlemazel [was Schlemizel till NotMax taught me proper yiddish!]: It’s awful. It used to be for special activities or clubs when I was a student. Now it’s mandatory for everything, including if you do not do any extracurricular groups or activities.
    The PTO is like a newly turned vampire, just desperate to suck the blood out of any captive target.

  30. 30.

    Schlemazel [was Schlemizel till NotMax taught me proper yiddish!]

    September 9, 2014 at 8:17 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name):
    I’m with you, he has the best job in the world! He has a multi-million dollar trust fund so he never has to work, will have no real duties other than to occasionally appear on a balcony and wave and generally is not expected to amount to much. If he stays mostly sober & does not whore around publicly he his home free. Meanwhile his poor brother is forever in the fish bowl with a thousand pointless duties.

  31. 31.

    Geeno

    September 9, 2014 at 8:17 pm

    @Cacti: Actually the line of succession is just a suggestion, the Council of State can override it and name anyone of royal blood as monarch. When Edward VIII was deposed*, there was serious consideration given to making Prince George – the 4th son of George V – king, because he already had a son. Prince Albert, the Heir Presumptive, had two daughters. Eventually they went with Albert, who was crowned as George VI.

    * Yes, technically, he abdicated, but only because the Council was about to depose him.

  32. 32.

    Mike J

    September 9, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    @Elizabelle: PBS here is just infomercials 24 hours a day. The world would be a better place if they burned to the ground.

    Just double checked. One of them is sandwiching in the ebola show in between two infomercials at 10.

  33. 33.

    BGinCHI

    September 9, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    I hope Cuomo at least get a scare. I can’t stand that mook.

  34. 34.

    PsiFighter37

    September 9, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    Voted for Wu and undervoted the governor’s race. Go ahead, flame away. I don’t care; frankly too tired to (and I bothered to take time out of moving today to go vote in that race).

    Now off to get some goddamn food.

  35. 35.

    shelley

    September 9, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    @Howard Beale IV: Well, at least let it be close.

  36. 36.

    Schlemazel [was Schlemizel till NotMax taught me proper yiddish!]

    September 9, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    @Corner Stone:
    Yup! It’s every little thing. I really don’t mind when it comes to the sports stuff as I view that as truly EXTRA-curricular but there were many things that I would classify as curricular or at least curricular-enhancing that they have to beg for too.

  37. 37.

    Mike in NC

    September 9, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    Netflix has the first 6 seasons of “Sons of Anarchy” streaming. Never seen it but will try it. They also have just added the entire run (6 or 7 seasons) of “Californication”. After watching the first several episodes, the formula for each seems to be: watch Hollywood bad boy David Duchovny get wasted, watch him wisecrack, watch him have sex with 4 or 5 much younger women that he just met. Masterpiece Theater it ain’t. The British cop show “Happy Valley” is pretty good, though.

  38. 38.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    @ruemara: Am I getting this right? There has been some indication that you will be fired? Because of finances or some other crazy reason? And they have asked you to train the remaining people to do you job because they aren’t going to keep you or hire someone to do your job?

    Aren’t you doing more work than one person can do? What’s going on?

  39. 39.

    Schlemazel [was Schlemizel till NotMax taught me proper yiddish!]

    September 9, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    @PsiFighter37:
    I think I need some clarification here. You stopped what you were doing to vote for a Lt. Gov race but were too busy/tired to fill in the circle/pull the handle/punch the chad for one other race? What am I missing here?

  40. 40.

    dmsilev

    September 9, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    A thrilling evening checking page-proofs lies ahead. Urgh. Opened up the PDF file and discovered right off the bat that the journal’s production staff thought it would be fun to change the naming style of the authors for all but one of us. Wonder what other surprises I’m going to find.

  41. 41.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    September 9, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    @ruemara: Good luck.

  42. 42.

    shelley

    September 9, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    @Schlemazel [was Schlemizel till NotMax taught me proper yiddish!]:
    Yeah, but he did serve a bit of time in the military, serving two tours in Afghanistan. Not too shabby.

  43. 43.

    Corner Stone

    September 9, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    @Howard Beale IV: I have to admit. This made me want to subscribe to your newsletter.

  44. 44.

    Schlemazel [was Schlemizel till NotMax taught me proper yiddish!]

    September 9, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    @ruemara:
    Sorry if I missed the story, WTF?
    Any chance of your moving on & walking away from them before they are ready to dump you?

    Geez we need to find a way to turn this countries employer/employee dynamic on it’s head.

  45. 45.

    Corner Stone

    September 9, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    @Alison: A little too Dickensian to be an actual teacher somewhere. But otherwise, I like where you’re going with that!

  46. 46.

    Elizabelle

    September 9, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    @ruemara:

    Oh ruemara. What needless drama. I wish the behavior types (?) would wise up.

    Watching Kill Bill Vol. 2 on IFC, but it’s got commercials … have seen flick so much I can echo the dialogue.

    Commercials, though …

    @Mike J: Feel your pain re your local PBS station. Sounds like it’s pledge week every week. Yecch.

  47. 47.

    Schlemazel [was Schlemizel till NotMax taught me proper yiddish!]

    September 9, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    @shelley:
    You have to give the European royalty their due, at least they understand noblesse oblige. They may serve no useful purpose to the society but they are not the sort of wasterial zombies American wealth and power craps out all to frequently.

  48. 48.

    leeleeFL

    September 9, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    @PurpleGirl: that ship has sailed. He ain’t a patch on the old man and Mario couldn’t get there.

  49. 49.

    catclub

    September 9, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    @beth: Take half of what you would spend on the crap candles and give it to the kids, without the rest going to the candle scammers. Probably less than 50% of the spending gets back as funds raised, plus you will have fewer stinky candles in the house.

  50. 50.

    Mnemosyne

    September 9, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    @ruemara:

    If you can work yourself up to it, this might be a good time for the old classic, You can’t fire me, I quit. If you’re feeing super-duper generous, you can give one (1) weeks’ notice.

  51. 51.

    Iowa Old Lady

    September 9, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    @ruemara: Well that sucks.

  52. 52.

    ruemara

    September 9, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    Actually, under my direction, sales and marketing outreach has hit a best ever high. Unfortunately, the cost effective outsourcing and a very poorly planned massive project planned with the sycophantic former assistant has upped business costs. So the answer to that is-turn marketing over to med intern who is the next sycophantic assistant in training. And still be somehow responsible and train them but with 50% less time. That puts me below minimal survival funding. And this was not happening last week, but we came in this week and POOF suddenly she’s revamping the entire company to ditch the whole media part and … we don’t know because there’s not so much a plan as a wing it. I’m a touch wung out. I have no idea how this will play out, that decision could be reversed by the end of the week or next week. There’s also the issue of my dunning, since I was not seen to be taking this with good grace.I just wanted to get a kiss before I got screwed hard.

  53. 53.

    beth

    September 9, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    @catclub: they were wine bottle candles and they were ugly as sin. I gave them $20 because one of the kids is a neighbor and told him to keep the candle.

  54. 54.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 9, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    Waiting for the waters to drop. 2 and 1/2″ in 45 mins. Supposed to get showers and thunderstorms tonight, tomorrow, and tomorrow night. Meanwhile, the wife is supposed to fly in from Spain tomorrow night. I can wade the waters and make it up to STL, can she land at Lambert? Only time will tell.

  55. 55.

    PsiFighter37

    September 9, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    @Schlemazel [was Schlemizel till NotMax taught me proper yiddish!]: I dislike Cuomo but Zephyr Teachout is not a serious candidate. The fact people think that she might hit 30% is laughable (she’ll be extremely lucky to break 20, IMO). I’ve spoken to people who are in the know, and her ‘campaign’ is disorganized as all hell and has literally no money.

    No way she gets a meaningful percentage, and she shouldn’t – she’s a joke of a candidate, and the fact that she’s the best that NY progressives could find to run against Cuomo is pretty fucking pathetic.

  56. 56.

    Betty Cracker

    September 9, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    Sounds like Ruemara needs to go Kill Bill on somebody’s ass. Watching the Rays kick the shit outta the Yanks. Always a pleasure!

  57. 57.

    Eric U.

    September 9, 2014 at 8:49 pm

    I really don’t want to move, it would mean living separately from my family. I’m on reduced hours right now and being pressured to work free on projects that don’t have funding. Just worked over 40 hours for free in August because I was promised pay and then it all fell through. That’s even worse because I could use some time off and I can’t get it because of the projects I’m on. I have known that I was on borrowed time for a while, but the way this has played out has been rather unpleasant.

  58. 58.

    Kay

    September 9, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    @catclub:

    I do that but it takes a long time to explain. I don’t know but I think they hate it too, because it messes up the record-keeping.

    The whole thing just seems so crazily inefficient I can’t stand it. The selling, the truck bringing the crap, the unloading and distribution, the pick-up of the orders, the delivery. Can’t I just give them the money and cut out all these middlemen?

  59. 59.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    September 9, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    @Mnemosyne: If a person doesn’t have another job lined up, being discharged is often better than quitting (emotional catharsis aside). Questions of eligibility for unemployment usually start with “quit or discharged” and the road to benefits is much easier if the answer is discharged.

  60. 60.

    scottinnj

    September 9, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    I’m always getting Zephyr Teachout and Zaphod Beeblebrox confused.

  61. 61.

    JPL

    September 9, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    Early returns has Coakley ahead of Grossman by two percent. I am no longer that familiar with MA politics but is this a good thing? A friend likes Grossman so maybe it is.

  62. 62.

    Kay

    September 9, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    A St. Louis County judge on Tuesday denied a motion to release the juvenile record of Michael Brown, the black teen shot and killed by a Ferguson, Mo. police officer in August, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

    Good. Here’s the law on that in Missouri if you want to check the judge’s work.

  63. 63.

    Corner Stone

    September 9, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    @PsiFighter37:

    I dislike Cuomo but Zephyr Teachout is not a serious candidate. The fact people think that she might hit 30% is laughable

    Well she certainly won’t this way.
    Nicely done.

  64. 64.

    ruemara

    September 9, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    I’d like to point out that I would vote for Zephyr Teachout and Zaphod Beeblebrox. Having seen many serious candidates be wicked stupid & disorganized, I’d be happy to go with the progressive flake who’s an honest flake.

  65. 65.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2014 at 8:57 pm

    @ruemara: It sounds like a pretty insane environment there, which can’t be good for your health or your sanity.

    If she can’t afford you full-time, which part of your job would you want to keep? Could you pitch yourself to her as a part-time worker doing the media stuff (or whatever it is that furthers your career) and ditch the extra crap assignments they are always throwing your way? Crap assignments are what interns are for anyway, right?

    On the other hand, Omnes makes a good point. Have you been there long enough to be eligible for unemployment?

    May I just state for the record that I’d really like to see some things go your way for an extended period of time?

  66. 66.

    HinTN

    September 9, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Anybody kicking the Yankees is a great thing.

  67. 67.

    tybee

    September 9, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    I plan to make the perfect pizza using fresh garlic naan bread as the base.

    pizza with a naan base has been a staple around here for years.
    everyone gets to make a personal pie and we run it through the toaster oven to “bake” it.

    damn fine stuff.

    ETA: and now i see that geeno practices the same…

  68. 68.

    Corner Stone

    September 9, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    Wendy Davis! All up in this TRMS Hizzy!

  69. 69.

    Mnemosyne

    September 9, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name):

    In California, it sounds as though she’s better off quitting than being fired (though being officially “laid off” is of course best of all).

    ETA: Doubleplus points if she can get a doctor’s note saying that this job is bad for her high blood pressure.

  70. 70.

    Belafon

    September 9, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    @beth: The arts aren’t fully funded here where I live, but the athletes go around selling cards that get you discounts at restaurants and other stores.

  71. 71.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    @tybee: So where do you guys get your naan? The only decent naan here in IL is in the frozen section of the health food store.

  72. 72.

    debit

    September 9, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    @tybee: I make mine with Thai peanut sauce and some chicken breast, topped with some fresh cilantro. Some say it’s not technically pizza. Screw ’em.

  73. 73.

    Corner Stone

    September 9, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    @tybee: I pan fry it in a tiny bit of oil in a pan for 1 minute per side. Then put on some toppings and/or seasonings and then put it in the oven at 400F for a few minutes depending on how I want it to turn out.
    I recently browned some 90/10 ground beef and then mixed in sweet onions thinly sliced, roasted cherry tomatoes, and sliced jalapeno stuffed green olives that had been in vermouth.
    Spread that very thin on the naan bread, drop some sliced fresh mozzarella spaced out on the top and bake until cheese is molten.

  74. 74.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 9, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    @Eric U.: Tell them they pay you or you walk, now, with all the pertinent info. (not sure what you do, so take with a ton of salt) Worked for a guy for years who was notorious for not paying people on time. Why? Because he always paid me every Friday. Why? Simple, I was the one guy that wouldn’t put up with that sh!t. I couldn’t afford to.

    My point is only that you have leverage, use it. Or as a buddy of mine always liked to say, “Employers can fvck with their employees, but their employees can fvck them“.

  75. 75.

    Mnemosyne

    September 9, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Do you have Trader Joe’s in your part of the state? They make a tasty frozen naan.

  76. 76.

    Schlemazel [was Schlemizel till NotMax taught me proper yiddish!]

    September 9, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    @ruemara:
    I’d vote Beeblebrox! He is more than qualified:
    He was voted “Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Known Universe” seven consecutive times. He’s been described as “the best Bang since the Big One” by Eccentrica Gallumbits (the triple brested whor of Eroticon 5), and as “one hoopy frood” by others and the “owner of the hippest place in the universe” (his own left cranium), as voted on in a poll of the readers of the magazine “Playbeing”.

  77. 77.

    ruemara

    September 9, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    May I just state for the record that I’d really like to see some things go your way for an extended period of time?

    You, me, every friend I have, including the ones who have had to pick me up from hospital way too many times. I’m at peace on things. Obviously, I’m Hitler. It’s the only karmic debt load I can think of. Or Pol Pot which would explain my affinity for asian foods.

    If she can’t afford you full-time, which part of your job would you want to keep?…Crap assignments are what interns are for anyway, right?

    She can. We’re not broke. But perception and reality are not meshing. And since I am not a medical intern, I am very stupid plus I have a cost. An intern can do it for free and since they are much smarter than anyone who is not studying what she does, it’s a win-win. The desired model of employment is the old fashioned apprenticeship model where the young person is kept at the home and business, worked and possibly given something after a few years, but the only mandatory thing is a title.

  78. 78.

    beth

    September 9, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    @Kay: Eric Holder obviously got to the judge!

  79. 79.

    Belafon

    September 9, 2014 at 9:07 pm

    Watching from Texas, for all of you who didn’t vote for Teachout even though you weren’t going to vote for Cuomo: FUCK YOU!

    The primary is when you scare the Democrats, and what do you do, absolutely jack shit.

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    Corner Stone

    September 9, 2014 at 9:07 pm

    @debit: Hey!

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    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2014 at 9:08 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Nope. No trader joe’s. No Whole Foods. I buy the frozen naan (made by Tandoor Chef) in the frozen food section of the health food section of the grocery store.

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    tybee

    September 9, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    find an indian grocery store.

  83. 83.

    Corner Stone

    September 9, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    @Belafon: Hey but Bill White wasn’t a “serious” candidate for governor so we shouldn’t have voted for him according to some.

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    Corner Stone

    September 9, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    @tybee: That’s what I have right on the edge of my neighborhood. Grocery store and takeout only kitchen.
    Very good, all fresh and even though they seem to hate whitey, they always take my money and give me my order.

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    schrodinger's cat

    September 9, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    @tybee: Loaded with butter, delicious but with elebenty calories.
    @WaterGirl: The best naan I have eaten in this country was at an Afghan takeout place that had a tandoor.

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    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    @ruemara: The thing is, it seems like she’s not just asking you to show someone the ropes or bring them up to speed on your current projects before you leave.

    She is asking you to actually teach someone a new profession, your profession, and that seems very wrong to me. I will cross my fingers that you can come up with some simple or elegant way to finesse this situation in a way that keep you employed there until you find something else less crazy.

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    OzarkHillbilly

    September 9, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    @Kay: Well acquainted with juvenile law in MO (lonnnnnnnngggggggg story) and yeah, that sh!t is locked up tighter than a gnats ass at midnight.

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    Suffern ACE

    September 9, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    We’re not gonna have Scott Brown to kick around any more.

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    rikyrah

    September 9, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    Kansas Senate Nom Sues Kobach To Get Himself Taken Off Ballot

    ByDylan Scott
    PublishedSeptember 9, 2014, 5:48 PM EDT

    Chad Taylor, the Democratic Senate nominee in Kansas, has sued Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R) to get his name removed from the ballot in November.

    Kobach ruled last week that Taylor’s name would not be removed from the ballot in November despite his announcement that he would withdraw from the race. Taylor had previously said that he would challenge Kobach’s decision, and the Associated Press reported Tuesday that he had filed a petition in the Kansas Supreme Court naming Kobach as the defendant.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/taylor-sues-kobach-kansas-senate-race

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    Botsplainer

    September 9, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    So wrong. Garlic naan is made to be drenched in butter and loved on its own terms.

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    debit

    September 9, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    @Corner Stone: Hey!!

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    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    September 9, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I used the word discharged for a reason. If you scroll up, you will see that one of the first requirements is being unemployed through no fault of your own. That is generally interpreted as including being laid off, a company going out of business, and even being let go for incompetence as long as you gave it your best efforts. The term fired often conjures up thoughts of misconduct which tend to make one ineligible.

    BTW, reading one section of an FAQ and making a legal judgment on it is very similar to what the majority of judge on the panel did in the Halbig case. That being said, I am not licensed in CA and do not know the exact ins and outs of its UI regs.

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    rikyrah

    September 9, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    Georgia GOPer Complains About Early Voting, Excessive Black Voting
    ByDaniel StraussPublishedSeptember 9, 2014, 1:27 PM EDT 19195 views

    A Republican state senator in Georgia has vowed to end Sunday balloting in DeKalb County due to the fact that the area is “dominated by African American shoppers and it is near several large African American mega churches.”

    The news was flagged by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. In a longwinded email state Sen. Frank Millar (pictured) rants that Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal “appointee Interim CEO Lee May has disappointed those of us that hoped he could help bring the county together.”

    Millar goes on to note that DeKalb county happens to include a number of African American mega churches.

    “Now we are to have Sunday voting at South DeKalb Mall just prior to the election,” Millar wrote in the email. “Per Jim Galloway of the AJC, this location is dominated by African American shoppers and it is near several large African American mega churches such as New Birth Missionary Baptist. Galloway also points out the Democratic Party thinks this is a wonderful idea – what a surprise. I’m sure Michelle Nunn and Jason Carter are delighted with this blatantly partisan move in DeKalb.”

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fran-millar-dekalb-county-sunday-balloting?utm_content=buffer932ea&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

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    Kay

    September 9, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    @beth:

    I think juvenile records should be locked in a vault, on the moon.

    “Sorry. We launched those into orbit, as is our customary record retention practice”

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    schrodinger's cat

    September 9, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    @Corner Stone: May be they are just jealous that you are Fair and Lovely without using any product.

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    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    I am going to go watch some mindless TV, which is less stressful than the shitty stuff that is going on in the world. Somebody wake me when something good happens in NY or some other primary spot from today.

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    Corner Stone

    September 9, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    @Botsplainer: I’m with that, but I know no boundaries in my desecration of genuinely gorgeous hand held edible culinary implementations.

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    Alce_y_Ardilla

    September 9, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    @Belafon: I voted for Teachout, and for Wu. My wife says that his name make her think of Steely Dan.

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    Corner Stone

    September 9, 2014 at 9:18 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: The gentleman that recently helped me either had a medical condition that spontaneously causes ones eyes to roll back into their head, or he was trying to tell me something by rolling his eyes at me three times in less than 45 seconds while I checked out my $14 order.

    ETA, but WTS, I do have the most appealingly non pasty skin. I recently spent quite a bit of time outdoors in San Diego and then at Barton Springs Pool in Austin, TX.
    Highly recommended!

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    PurpleGirl

    September 9, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I buy the Trader Joe’s naan and like it a lot. I’m going to have to go back through the thread and write down the pizza ideas.

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    schrodinger's cat

    September 9, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    @Corner Stone: How was San Diego? My best friend from grade school has moved there and she keeps inviting me to visit.

    ETA: Indian/Pakistani grocery stores have a captive clientele so they usually don’t bother with niceties like customer service, no matter who darkens their threshold. Although I have found that the Patel Brothers grocery stores to be an exception to that rule.

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    Kay

    September 9, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    Someone has to say “the Cuomo precincts come in first” so I’ll just go ahead and do that.

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    ruemara

    September 9, 2014 at 9:23 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    She is asking you to actually teach someone a new profession, your profession, and that seems very wrong to me. I will cross my fingers that you can come up with some simple or elegant way to finesse this situation in a way that keep you employed there until you find something else less crazy.

    That’s truly it in a nutshell. I have no idea how you teach someone without any skill or desire how to pick a photo, craft copy and deduce where the mind of the customer and the vagaries of the commercial B2C market is leading for infotainment companies. I’ve had what passes for a temper tantrum (not seeming happy), now I will move forward with grace the goddess gave me and wish that people find what they’ve earned here.

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    Kropadope

    September 9, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    OMG, who is voting for Coakley? Why would you do that? Ever?

    I’ve never heard a positive word about her from a single person in real life. Come to think of it, not on the internet either.

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    raven

    September 9, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    Back from a great boiled shrimp dinner on a great place somewhere on a river in Savannah. Last night I got to see the tybee’s and tonight I saw folks that I have been friends with for 35 years. I spent the day in a session with a fellow from the e Center for Deployment Psychology looking at how to help vets and military students. Great day.

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    tybee

    September 9, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    @raven:

    which river?

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    tybee

    September 9, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    @PurpleGirl:

    Konto’s “pocket less pita” brand naan.

    6.99 for 20 pieces. freezes well.

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    raven

    September 9, 2014 at 9:29 pm

    @tybee: Pearl’s Saltwater Grille. My friend’s wife grew up playing in the river right there. Herb River.

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    Corner Stone

    September 9, 2014 at 9:31 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: SD was totes fab! We stayed on the beach about 1.5 miles from Sea World. Went to SW and also 7+ hours at the SD Zoo.
    Spent an unGodly amount of money. Just disgusting but it was part work and part vacation for my son who’s turning 10 shortly.
    Unfortunately we were so blitzed from beach/pool/tourist crap that we didn’t explore very many culinary options. My son turned down a brownie/ice cream dessert for his third course one night, that’s how bushed he was. And that’s saying something when he didn’t even want to wait for them to pack it up to go. Toast!

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    tybee

    September 9, 2014 at 9:33 pm

    used to be “Pearl’s elegant pelican”. i do believe we mentioned that monday eve when we talked about the restaurant on LaRoche that tried to expand and went under.
    if they managed to resurrect themselves with the same group, it’ll be the best damn seafood in town and i’m fairly critical about seafood.
    may have to wander down towards Isle of Hope and see what’s happened.
    did you notice the building just to the left of the restaurant? what a strange structure on a beautiful stretch of the marsh.

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    schrodinger's cat

    September 9, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    @Corner Stone: Sounds like a lot of fun. I has a jealous!

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    Mnemosyne

    September 9, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Train trip to a more civilized area, like Peoria or Chicago? Though if you go all the way to Chicago for naan, you should track down a local place that bakes it fresh and then freeze it at home.

    @ruemara:

    K-Town is calling you. Just sayin’.

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    OzarkHillbilly

    September 9, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    @ruemara: Fvck ’em, just say “No.” What are they going to do? Fire you? Hello unemployment!

    On the more serious side, whatever you do, don’t help them fvck you. Train somebody else to do your job? SURE…. and then show them how to do it all wrong.

    I admit, I was spoiled, I worked in a profession where I really could say, with feeling, “Fvck you and the horse you rode in on.” and come out OK. But you do have leverage. The trick is finding it, and figuring out how to use it.

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    Poopyman

    September 9, 2014 at 9:38 pm

    FWIW, Ravens’ version of how the Ray Rice issue unfolded.

    And as an aside, reading the Ravens owner’s name and most of this thread is making me really hungry.

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    PurpleGirl

    September 9, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    @tybee: Thanks. There is an Indian supermarket in the 70s off Roosevelt Avenue that I can go to and see what they have.

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    raven

    September 9, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    @tybee: The road is blocked and there is construction so I’m not sure what gives. I thought you had mentioned it but I was so excited to see them we just yapped all through dinner.

    Here’s last night at Pulaski.

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    gelfling545

    September 9, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    Well, really, how dare Ms. Teachout run for office with such a non-serious name. (I assume she named herself at birth?) If this sort of thing is not nipped in the bud, the next thing you know we’ll have candidates with names like Newt Gingrich or something equally silly. Maybe even foreign, Kenyan names. Where will it all end?

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    Elmo

    September 9, 2014 at 9:46 pm

    I had a client once who owned and ran an Indian restaurant. He introduced me to naan, and showed me how he slapped a handful of dough on the inside wall of a tandoori oven to make it fresh.

    The oven was probably 700 degrees. His forearm had absolutely no hair at all.

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    OzarkHillbilly

    September 9, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    @Poopyman: What does Raven have to do with Ray Rice and why are you blaming him for it all?

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    Anne Laurie

    September 9, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    @scottinnj:

    I’m always getting Zephyr Teachout and Zaphod Beeblebrox confused.

    Hand to goddess, the first time I heard that name I thought she was a tongue-in-cheek Hitchhiker fan!

  121. 121.

    Mnemosyne

    September 9, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Fvck ‘em, just say “No.” What are they going to do? Fire you? Hello unemployment!

    You definitely have a good point here. There’s no reason, karmic or otherwise, to make it easy for them to replace you. At best, you should say, Well, I’m really busy doing X, Y or Z, but if Intern wants to sit with me and watch, she can do that.

    Weirdly, this is sounding to sound like litlebritdifferent’s crazy asshole boss, so getting out is probably going to be the best long-term strategy.

  122. 122.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 9, 2014 at 9:49 pm

    @Poopyman: My bad…. different Raven…

  123. 123.

    raven

    September 9, 2014 at 9:50 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: Story of my life.

    God I hope I can sleep a couple of hours on this torture rack!

  124. 124.

    raven

    September 9, 2014 at 9:50 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: There’s some other raven that pops up here now and then.

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    Botsplainer

    September 9, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    @raven:

    Check this shrimp.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/09/05/mantis-shrimp-florida-fish-wildlife-conservation/15114939/

  126. 126.

    Anne Laurie

    September 9, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    @Corner Stone: Gee, thanks, now I have drool all over my keyboard.

    (Not for the first time, between you & JeffreyW & TaMara… )

  127. 127.

    raven

    September 9, 2014 at 9:54 pm

    @Botsplainer: That’s funny, I ate and entire lb of steamed at dinner and I’m about to go into shrimp shock, that may have pushed me over the edge!

  128. 128.

    half glass fool

    September 9, 2014 at 9:56 pm

    At 9:50 pm,

    Govenor
    14.5% of precincts reporting
    Andrew Cuomo – 62.7% (44,872)
    Zephyr Teachout – 33.2% (23,750)
    Randy Credico – 4.1% (2,950)

    Lieutenant Governor
    14.6% of precincts reporting
    Kathy Hochul – 64% (44,698)
    Timothy Wu – 36% (25,139)

  129. 129.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 9, 2014 at 10:02 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I oversimplify of course. As a union carpenter I found myself laid off many times just because somebody didn’t like me. As a union carpenter I always had a way to find the next job. Also as a union carpenter, what they could or could not do was well defined, and I damn well knew what those contractual limits were. Among the many things they could not do is make me work for free. They could say, “Show this cub how it is done.” and I could then make that cub sorry he was ever born.

    And I did. More than once, tho not always.

  130. 130.

    Anne Laurie

    September 9, 2014 at 10:11 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Indian/Pakistani grocery stores have a captive clientele so they usually don’t bother with niceties like customer service, no matter who darkens their threshold.

    I feel a little guilty sometimes, there’s a lot of Indian groceries/restaurants in our town (and a Satsang Center in what used to be the Congregational church), but living with a Norwegian-bred, Midwestern-born supertaster has completely ruined my tolerance for spicy foods!

    Couple times every month, I get a big takeout order of the blander, pasty-person-friendly dishes (biryani, korma, veggie samosas) from the really good restaurant down the block, and chow down for days when the Spousal Unit isn’t around. The nice people who take my order and hand over my food are so conspicuously patient with me, it’s slightly embarrassing…

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    Anne Laurie

    September 9, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    @Kropadope:

    OMG, who is voting for Coakley? Why would you do that? Ever?

    Because she’s as good a female candidate as we’re liable to get, until the Old Bhoyos Network drops dead of hypertension.

    And because if the race comes down to Grossman versus Baker, once the low-info voters tune in, ugly ole Steve-the-Fixer is gonna lose to that nice Charlie-the-Conman Baker.

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    PsiFighter37

    September 9, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    @half glass fool: Looks like I’m going to be eating my fair share of crow tonight…

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    JoyfulA

    September 9, 2014 at 10:19 pm

    @beth: It isn’t just the arts. The girls were raising money for their field hockey sticks.

    (Then the GOP school board cut kindergarten to half days to balance the budget. Now there’s a 100% Dem school board.)

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    Kropadope

    September 9, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    Because she’s as good a female candidate as we’re liable to get

    It’s funny you say that. Last time Coakley won a primary then lost the general, a far superior female candidate ran for that same Senate seat and won.

    And you’re seriously gonna point to a dude’s looks as a reason he won’t get elected? Wow.

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    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    September 9, 2014 at 10:28 pm

    @Kropadope: I suppose you have a spare Elizabeth Warren in your pocket?

  136. 136.

    Ruckus

    September 9, 2014 at 10:31 pm

    @ruemara:
    When I quit my last job, the CEO said I had to tell them what I was doing so that it could continue. My answer? “No, I don’t. The 2 week notice I gave is a courtesy. Ask my boss, if you can drag him out of the bar.” Of course he had no clue about anything anymore other than how to find the bar and how to fuck with me. The CEO offered to fire me. “Great, I get a weeks pay for each year I’ve been here. That’s a nice chunk of change that I’m not getting now.” He declined. I did eventually sit down and go over with the CEO what I was doing. Took 2 hrs non stop. And of course they didn’t know how I was doing all of it, just that it was all getting done. I don’t feel that I owe any employer my time to train my replacement. If they are firing me, fuck them, let’s get it over with. If I’m leaving on my own I look back and see how much they trained me against how much I had to learn on my own just to get the job done. In the case of this job, they provided none and I wasn’t in much of a mindset to reward them with the experience that I learned and that I brought to the job. They paid me for my time, expertise and how well I did the job. That was my reward. They got a proficient, hard working employee who always went the extra mile. That was their reward. What I also got was a shitty boss and degrading working conditions and I didn’t get anything extra for that.

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    Kropadope

    September 9, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): Does the candidate need to be female?

  138. 138.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    September 9, 2014 at 10:38 pm

    @Kropadope: Not to me, but that was the candidate to whom you were referring, right? Don’t bitch at me because I understood your reference.

  139. 139.

    Kropadope

    September 9, 2014 at 10:40 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): Yeah, sorry, I was going back to Anne Laurie’s original comment. Way to go Mass Dems. You did it again.

  140. 140.

    gene108

    September 9, 2014 at 11:15 pm

    @Schlemazel [was Schlemizel till NotMax taught me proper yiddish!]:

    You have to give the European royalty their due, at least they understand noblesse oblige.

    Between the Nicholas II and Louis XVI, European nobility understands what happens, when they do not keep the peasants happy.

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    Corner Stone

    September 9, 2014 at 11:43 pm

    @PurpleGirl: It was awesome. I used a little schmear of blue cheese (HT Roger Moore) and I completely just dominated a personal pan pizza fusion.
    I’m going to slide sideways into bliss now.
    Fuck the Coakley and Teachout haterz!
    Purity troll motherfuckers.

  142. 142.

    JGabriel

    September 9, 2014 at 11:43 pm

    I’m having a Pauline Kael moment. I can’t believe Cuomo won. Everyone I know voted for Zephyr Teachout.

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    catclub

    September 9, 2014 at 11:52 pm

    @beth: well done! thanks

  144. 144.

    PIGL

    September 10, 2014 at 12:04 am

    @Elizabelle: A gargantuan film, as it were. I love that scene….quote it every chance I get, and nobody ever picks up on it.

  145. 145.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 10, 2014 at 12:32 am

    so…

    Josh Barro @ jbarro · 3h
    Richard Tisei probably almost as upset as John Tierney right now

    John Tierney was the middling Democrat who was upset by the more progressive Seth Mousul in MA-02, who was polling better against the popular Tisei than Tierney… do I have that right?

  146. 146.

    Elizabelle

    September 10, 2014 at 1:46 am

    @PIGL:

    We so rarely have the chance to use it in a sentence.

  147. 147.

    Origuy

    September 10, 2014 at 2:11 am

    @Botsplainer: Mantis shrimp aren’t in the same order as true shrimp. They’re a couple of levels of taxonomy apart. They’re edible, though; in Japanese they’re called shako.

  148. 148.

    Gary

    September 10, 2014 at 12:01 pm

    I said someone named Zephyr Teachout like some kind of hippie caricature never stood a chance and well here we are. I hate being right. :P

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