There are simply no words for this pic.twitter.com/rbWSXVBBlP
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) September 12, 2014
Although they probably won’t get what they deserve.
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Come for the politics, stay for the snark.
Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.
A lot of Dems talk about what the media tells them to talk about. Not helpful.
Bad news for Ron DeSantis is great news for America.
I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.
Yeah, with this crowd one never knows.
Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?
The willow is too close to the house.
š¶ Those boots were made for mockinā šµ
Ah, the different things are different argument.
Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they donāt ask for more? Great plan.
Innocent people don’t delay justice.
They’re not red states to be hated; they are voter suppression states to be fixed.
It’s time for the GOP to dust off that post-2012 autopsy, completely ignore it, and light the party on fire again.
Fuck the extremist election deniers. Whatās money for if not for keeping them out of office?
Balloon Juice has never been a refuge for the linguistically delicate.
Letās not be the monsters we hate.
rich, arrogant assholes who equate luck with genius
Let’s finish the job.
When your entire life is steeped in white supremacy, equality feels like discrimination.
After roe, women are no longer free.
The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.
When someone says they ālove freedomā, rest assured they donāt mean yours.
Authoritarian republicans are opposed to freedom for the rest of us.
This has so much WTF written all over it that it is hard to comprehend.
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C.V. Danes
You know things have jumped the shark when they start trotting out the old war criminals.
Belafon
Can’t do twitter at work. What is it?
ericblair
Him, Cheney, and Scalia. All of them walking talking medical disasters that are still, well, walking and talking. True, Cheney’s shriveled little black heart has been replaced by a machine, but he’s still around.
We could try and tell them there’s a really great high-end steakhouse called Den Haag. Just call up your jet service and tell them to take you there. Really, it’s terrific; they slaughter the animals in the back and you can hear them cry in agony while you sip your 15yo pre-meal single malt.
Brian R.
War criminals like Kissinger are delightful, but intelligent observers of politics who have been proven right time and time again like Krugman are just so mean and shrill.
Fuck you, Morning Joke.
Elizabelle
I really hate that MSNBC appropriated the Kongos’ “Come with me Now” for its promos.
Although it’s kind of perfect, because I thought the lyrics were:
And that is NBC for you.
The promo totally ruined the song for me. I hear it and think of the rotating heads of Mrs. Alan Greenspan, Joe and Mika, Tweety. Gag. Turn the radio channel so quick.
[lyric is actually “whoa”, always a good thought when considering NBC News.]
Mike in NC
Why is this 91 year old war criminal still breathing? What does he possibly have to say that’s worth hearing? Were Dick and Liz Cheney unavailable?
Shame on Hillary Clinton for sucking up to this clown.
srv
He was on Colbert or Stewart earlier. I can’t watch it.
Like I said a couple weeks back – if Dick lives to be Henry’s age, we’ll be hearing from him for the next five Presidential Elections.
The Moar You Know
Goddamn is he still alive? I call shenanigans. Or vampirism.
@ericblair: He got a transplant. I don’t even want to know the monstrous ethical violations that assuredly were involved in that process.
Mike G
In DC it’s never about being right, or accurate, it’s about Power.
You get Power by pushing a favored ideology.
If you have Power, then you get the platform, regardless of whether you have a long history of being disastrously wrong and/or criminal.
Which is why DC will continue to be stupid and take actions that are disastrously wrong.
Belafon
@The Moar You Know: Do you know how many virgins had to be sacrificed in order to get that heart to stay in Cheney’s chest?!!
BGinCHI
Cheney vs. Kissinger Cage Match!
Sunday Sunday Sunday!!
Frankensteinbeck
Yikes. That man has aged badly. Just… yikes.
kindness
@Mike in NC:
Why? Because those of us who loathe him (them) don’t want to spend the rest of our days in jail for righteously killing him (them). And that is what it is going to take to get these Sucubusses off my TV. I admit I won’t do it. They’ve earned it but I don’t want the bad karma.
Josie
At the risk of sounding like a bitter old woman, I’d like to smack that Stepford smile off of Mika’s face. She pisses me off worse than her blustering partner.
Samuel Knight
Kissinger as a war criminal still walking around (East Tiimor, Chile, Cambodia, Vietnam, etc) is closely linked to the Ford pardon of Nixon. If they continued investigating the President (or more plausibly set up a Truth and Reconcilation deal) a lot more details would have come out a lot sooner about what he did.
Personally i’d guess if the details of how they had sabotaged the Vietnam peace talks had come out in the 1970s – Kissinger and everyone involved in it would have never lived it down. By the time it came out, the post Reagan tribalism had taken over – and people just refused to believe it and refused to even look.
Southern Beale
OMG thank you. I refuse to watch Morning Joke but husband watches it EVERY SINGLE DAMN MORNING. This morning I needed to be dressed early so I was forced to watch it while getting ready. And I saw Henry Kissinger and Mika preening and giggling like a 13-year-old and Joe Scarborough acting like he was in the presence of greatness and I just started shouting IT’S HENRY FUCKING KISSINGER DO YOU NOT KNOW WHO THIS MAN IS?
And then Kissinger said something in his gravelly voice and I just had to say to the husband, “You won’t watch Al Jazeera America but you WILL watch this? Explain yourself.”
God I thought I was the only one.
JGabriel
I can’t decide which is worse: trotting out war criminal and Realpolitik cynic Henry Kissinger, or the way Mika and Joe beam and smile like it’s Christmas morning while (going by the chyron) discussing war, mayhem, and terrorism.
Botsplainer
@Southern Beale:
You missed an opportunity to say “I’d sooner approve of you watching ‘Two Girls, One Cup’ than Henry Kissinger”.
DougJ
What’s up with Joe Scar’s sweaters? I feel like I’m watching a faculty meeting.
sherparick
Well, he was fawned over through the whole seventies, except, ironically by the right-wing of the Republican Party. Cheney and Rumsfeld thought him a squish then, a hated “Rockerfeller Republican.” http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/a-halloween-massacre-at-the-white-house-92668509/?no-ist
From the same article, there is this little gem of a quote: “Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and CIA Director William Colby. Kissinger was particularly incensed over Colbyās testimony in congressional hearings on CIA activities. āEvery time Bill Colby gets near Capitol Hill, the damn fool feels an irresistible urge to confess to some horrible crime,ā Kissinger snarled.”
Why this guy is treated like such a genious is somewhat beyond me. The conclusion of the Vietnam War was an umitigated disaster for the U.S. But he gets credit for reestablishing relations with China, SALT I, and negotiating a cease fire to the Yon Kippur War, credit he probably does not enjoy. In return he conspired with Nixon on unconstitutional acts, the secret bombing campaign in Cambodia, and of course Chile (which is why he was so pissed with Colby).
Botsplainer
@Josie:
As a guy, I find her really attractive in that middle European “I’m here to discipline you with my riding crop while wearing a leather thong” kind of way, but I’m kind of a pervert.
leeleeFL
Re: Kissinger. When he got the Peace Prize THE WONDERFUL TOM LEHRER retired. . He said something about irony being truly dead. Too very true
Josie
@DougJ: I suspect he just uses those sweaters to cover up a shirt that was picked up wrinkled from the floor and put on before running out the door.
JPL
@ericblair: Scalia might not qualify but the other two would be welcome.
Also, I can’t believe that I used google. (Hangs head in shame.)
PhoenixRising
@Southern Beale:
Yes. Yes, they don’t. In the sense that he’s correct, we’ve now droned to death more people than US bombing killed in Cambodia. (For certain values of ‘killed’ and ‘Cambodia’.)
If my dad hadn’t died at 54, at home in his own bed surrounded by his children, seeing this would have killed him. There were too many young men, who went to fight the war Nixon secretly expanded and extended, who didn’t get a gentle, good death despite what they saw and did there–and I hope they’re all waiting for Kissinger at the gate, prepared to explain that he got on the wrong escalator.
Seanly
That picture perfectly encapsulates what is currently wrong with our news media. That and the picture of the guy in the Tim Tebow costume with the mini-reporter’s face buried in his crotch.
Josie
@Botsplainer: Ahhh, well, there you go. I had never thought of her in quite that way. Maybe that explains her popularity.
Nashville_fan
Mika should be nominated for an Emmy for her performance on Morning Joe . . . like a Stepford wife on caffeine pills.
ericblair
@JPL:
That’s true. Nothing that asshole did has been a war crime, and it’s a systemic failure of our government that nobody is either willing or able to rein him in. Still, I hope he has double portions of every meal with extra salt and the wait staff unexpectedly makes loud noises around him.
I hadn’t heard that Cheney got a real heart. I’d also be very interested to understand the prioritization process that went on for his transplant, since it probably involved a couple of unusual decisions.
Botsplainer
@Josie:
My wife used to complain about my glassy expression back when I used to watch Morning Joe.
different-church-lady
Someone with photoshop skills, get to work!
Botsplainer
@different-church-lady:
Back years ago, I did one up as Limbaugh/Palin
max
Ahem: Monty Python – Contractual Obligation (1980) – Henry Kissinger.
max
[‘”…annnnddd wissshhhhiiinnnnnggggg you weeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeee deeeeeaaaaaaaaaadddddddddd!!!”‘]
brantl
Aw, crap, kisseyface is back!
Archon
Morning Joe is the modern day equivalent of 18th century French Salons. It’s basically a place where the idle elite can get together and talk about the serious issues of the day from 50,000 feet.
The Moar You Know
@ericblair: Not to compare the two as human beings, but it was probably similar to the process that got Steve Jobs a new liver. Pancreatic cancer patients who have a proven track record of ignoring treatment regimes and have had the cancer spread to the liver do not get a new liver, unless your name is Steve Jobs.
Money fucking talks, the rest of us die.
drkrick
@leeleeFL:
As I remember, he retired from his musical endeavors in the early ’80’s with the explanation that when the President fires the head of the Civil Rights Commission for being in favor of Civil Rights there was nothing left for the satirist to do. Maybe he was a member of the Sinatra school of retirement.
Waynski
@Josie:
Given that her father was National Security Adviser shortly after Henry being Sec. of State, I imagine Mikah’s probably known the man since she was a little girl. Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
Belafon
@Josie: Have you seen the picture of her and Joe where she’s wearing a short dress and is lying on a table?
drkrick
@ericblair:
Ditto for David Crosby, Mickey Mantle and Robert Casey, although in Crosby’s case at least he’s taken good enough care of himself to get good use out of the new organ.
I’m sure that the fact a heart-lung match was found for Casey hours after the need was announced had nothing at all to do with the fact he was the sitting governor.
Josie
@Belafon: Oh, yes. Another one of my favorites. Not.
NotMax
Aw, he didn’t demonstrate the Magic Murder Bag?
Steeplejack
@Belafon:
If you haven’t gotten it from context by now, it’s a picture of Kissinger on Morning Ho with Joe and Mika fawning over him.
raven
@PhoenixRising: Some of us may be at the same one Henry rightfully arrives at I’m afraid.
Trollhattan
@Southern Beale: There are two reasons to have the teevee on before noon: Tour de France and the NFL morning game. Have never understood the attraction of a teevee bathering while I’m getting ready for my day, it’s the inverse of what I want.
I wouldn’t know the various morning shows existed were it not for airports, my dentist and TDS-Colbert.
shelley
@Josie: The only reason that woman is on that show is because of her last name.
The Moar You Know
@drkrick: I met David Crosby about three weeks before (late 1994, I think, I’m getting old) he went to get his new liver. He was bright yellow and not very cognizant of where he was. I’ve been around actual dead people that didn’t look or smell as bad. Additionally, I didn’t like him very much, but make allowances: he was, after all, quite ill.
Nonetheless, by the rules supposedly in place, he absolutely shouldn’t have gotten a new one, although he is the rare exception: he’s put 20 years on it and seems to not have decided to take it for a joyride as so many other substance abusers with new organs do, so good on him for that.
Comrade Scrutinizer
@Waynski: Although it was amusing to watch when she would interview her father on the show, and he’d look at her like “no fucking way you came from my loins.”
Trollhattan
@srv:
Colbert. I watched; it was weird, as in Kissinger kind of gets Colbert’s schtick and plays along to to some extent in order to deliver a bit of his usual opinionating before the camera. Of course the actual reason is to plug yet another book. He was rather complementary of how Obama is handling the Middle East, which seemed out of left field until one remembers he’s not part of the current generation of glass-chewing Republicans. Yes, Ted Cruz makes Kissinger sound “reasonable.”
Christ, he’s been around so long he was once played by John Belushi.
Belafon
@Steeplejack: Thanks. I was kind of putting it together, but my first impression was that it only contained Kissinger.
Trollhattan
@shelley: Which nobody can pronounce. “What am I supposed to do with all these extra consonants and syllables?”
PIGL
@kindness: Actually, I think the just execution of the evil is a karmic positive. I’ll take the Karma, just not the jail time or the hail of bullets. And Henry K would not be first on my list, not by a long chalk. It’s more about the evil you could prevent than punishing whatever evil they have done already.
srv
@Trollhattan: Kissinger bootlegging at a Grateful Dead concert.
Louise
This is a therapeutic thread, and I needed therapy just from seeing that tweet picture.
Waynski
@Comrade Scrutinizer:
True. I think Zbig took Joe to the woodshed not too long ago as well, Brzezinski to Joe: “You know, you have such a stunningly superficial knowledge of what went on that it’s almost embarrassing to listen to you.”
The man doesn’t suffer fools gladly. I’m guessing especially family. I was just saying in the earlier post that I think its a little harsh to give her guff about being nice to Kissinger. He could be “Uncle Henry” to her. DC is a small town with lots of big buildings and she grew up there. He probably rubbed her little tow head when he came by for cocktails.
Trollhattan
@srv: Hilarious. Senator Al!
Love saying that.
gogol's wife
@Trollhattan:
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drkrick
@The Moar You Know: That’s what I understood, too. No question he was sick enough to need one, but not a very good risk. It’s good he beat those odds.
stickler
I heard Kissinger interviewed on German TV back in the late ’90s. It was totally surreal: in English, he sounds like a wizened professor of psychoanalysis or something. In German, he has a thick Bavarian accent. He sounds like a backwoods hick. His family fled one of the cities in Franconia in the ’30s, which explains the accent. But it is extremely jarring to hear, given that I grew up in the ’70s and ’80s listening to that gravelly World Statesman voice on the TV all the time. Imagine the German equivalent of Larry the Cable Guy or some hick from Mississippi.
Gravenstone
@Botsplainer: I believe that’s what they call “over sharing”. Thanks.
brantl
I am amazed at the rube expression these two have when listening to this lying asshole, like they are getting tips from a master.Which, I guess, they are.
leeleeFL
@drkrick: he said political satire was obsolete after the peace prize. I guess I thought he retired at that point
Villago Delenda Est
All three people in that photo need to ride on the same tumbrel to their just and lasting reward.
Ouilmetter
Man I’m old, Pretty Hate Machine was released 25 years ago.
I briefly watched Morning Joe in the months prior to the 2008 election. I appreciated that JoeScar was at least mildly critical of Bush/McCain. Then the very next morning after the election, he started in criticizing Obama. I realized that he was going back to full on Republican, so I turned off the show for good. No need to start off the day with that shite.
JR in WV
So, who is Morning Joe Girl, Mika’s father? I live in the country, and if no one just says it, I won’t know.
Kissinger killed as many people as Cheney, no question. He also had 8 years of total control, while Cheney lost his warlord-ship after 6 or so years.
I’m with all the others curious about Cheney’s new heart… if I learned that my kid or brother died and we gave his organs so that Dick Cheney could live longer, there would be hell to pay.
Hell to pay!
EthylEster
@JR in WV: google Mika B
AnonPhenom
“There are simply no words”
I can think of three.
Fucking War Criminal.
jayjaybear
@JR in WV: Zbigniew Brzezinski, Carter’s National Security Advisor.
Debbie
I think he still fancies himself as a ladies’ man.
Chris
@stickler:
I’ve heard something similar about Ahnuld – that he asked if he could provide his own characters’ voice for German dubbing, and the krauts just told him “nah, you’re Austrian, you sound like a hillbilly Alpine peasant, nobody wants to hear that.”