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College Football Preview — Open Thread

by Betty Cracker|  September 20, 20149:34 am| 75 Comments

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What are you watching today? Who’s gonna win? What’s your upset of the week prediction?

We’re on the way to a woodsy canoe outpost, so I’ll miss the early games so we can paddle around in a bug-ridden drizzle and acquire a chigger infestation. But I’ll be home later to watch the Gators, who will almost certainly lose to Bama.

I expect Jawja to easily handle Troy and the Aggies to whup Southern Meth (which is how everyone should refer to SMU). I hope Clemson beats FSU, which is Goodelling their QB problem, but I think the Noles will win.

My upset pick: Mississippi State over LSU. What say you, sports fans?

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  1. 1.

    Julia Grey

    September 20, 2014 at 9:45 am

    My daughter is in a mixed marriage. While ordinarily they root for Clemson, she got her JD from FSU, so this is always a contentious weekend in that household.

    However, she just bought some really cute Clemson clothes for the visiting baby nephew and she’s peeeeee-ahd at Jameis Winston, so….

  2. 2.

    Gator90

    September 20, 2014 at 9:59 am

    Sometimes watching the Gators feels more like an obligation than a pleasure.

  3. 3.

    Tommy

    September 20, 2014 at 10:16 am

    @Gator90: I was at LSU in the early 90s. Steve Spurrier’s Flordia teams came into Death Valley and just pummeled us. I got no love for the Gators. But I am also a sports fan and a SEC homer and a good Gators team is good for the conference.

    Now I will just have to call out Betty for no love for my LSU Tigers. I will note that maybe they could lose if they were at Mississipi state. But they are playing “under the lights” at LSU. We just don’t lose many of those games.

  4. 4.

    Mack

    September 20, 2014 at 10:17 am

    Prediction: My mighty Dores will upset So. Carolina tonight.

    And then I’ll buy the winning lottery ticket. Book it.

  5. 5.

    ruemara

    September 20, 2014 at 10:20 am

    I’ve always wanted to try watching football, but it looks like no one I know watches football who is willing to tolerate someone who knows nothing about football. I’m thinking of going to see a movie if I haven’t blown my budget on food. Maybe a little location scouting, a script for JMN’s book teaser and design some labels for a friend.

  6. 6.

    Hawes

    September 20, 2014 at 10:24 am

    I’ll take Auburn over K-State.

    Book it.

  7. 7.

    Julia Grey

    September 20, 2014 at 10:32 am

    it looks like no one I know watches football who is willing to tolerate someone who knows nothing about football. I’m thinking of going to see a movie if I haven’t blown my budget on food.

    Hey, now that’s an idea……a movie that in between a larger story, teaches one of the characters about football. The basics of downs and the strategies you can use within them. Anybody know any decent movie that gets THAT basic? Even baseball movies usually take the viewer’s knowledge of the rock-bottom basics of the game for granted….

  8. 8.

    Raven

    September 20, 2014 at 10:33 am

    I walked Over early, hour and a half to go on a spectacular morning!

  9. 9.

    WaterGirl

    September 20, 2014 at 10:40 am

    @Raven: Hey, Raven. I just got back from the farmer’s market. When I saw some of the musicians there, I thought of something my friend told me – that there is some kind of a raffle or fundraiser or something for the long-haired musician you know who plays at the market. I can never remember his name, but the kids all adore him, and apparently he is really sick.

    Do you know anything about that?

  10. 10.

    danielx

    September 20, 2014 at 10:47 am

    Not watching games…instead I am looking forward to using a belt sander on the sis-in-law’s deck to fix where I fucked up trying to strip it. Pro tip, kids: don’t ever try to strip (with stripper and a power washer) a deck stained with solid color stain. Instead you scrape and sand the areas where the stain is flaking/peeling, spot prime with an oil-based primer, then refinish with another solid color stain.

    In other news, the old definition of chutzpah as being the mindset of someone who murders his parents and then throws himself on the mercy of the court because he’s an orphan has been replaced by a new, two word definition: Cliven Bundy.

    I can’t decide whether he has stones the size of pumpkins or merely has stones the size of walnuts and has never heard of the concept of irony. I’m leaning towards door number two, though…

  11. 11.

    Amir Khalid

    September 20, 2014 at 10:50 am

    Football, you say? I’m hoping that Daniel Sturridge’s return to fitness means Liverpool will win in the late match today (17:30 in London, 00:30 in KL) at West Ham United.

    I’m happy enough with my new Lenovo smartphone, which is cheap. Only thing bugging me is that the digital clock doesn’t do a 24hr display, which I prefer to am/pm.

  12. 12.

    Tommy

    September 20, 2014 at 10:55 am

    @Amir Khalid: I didn’t even know Lenovo made a smartphone. Does it run the Microsoft OS? I am hooked on my Samsung. Mainly because I first got a Chromebook. And the apps I run on it run on my phone and tablet. I LOVE I buying an app once and can use it across all my machines (well not my desktop).

  13. 13.

    Amir Khalid

    September 20, 2014 at 10:57 am

    Somehow, I don’t think the Islamic State will want this guy.

  14. 14.

    Amir Khalid

    September 20, 2014 at 10:59 am

    @Tommy:
    Maybe Lenovo doesn’t sell them in America. Mine (model no. A529) is an Android phone.

  15. 15.

    Raven

    September 20, 2014 at 11:01 am

    @WaterGirl: Yes, he played with the Finchley boys and is a stalwart of CU music. https://www.giveforward.com/fundraiser/vcr5/michael-needs-your-help?utm_source=facebook

  16. 16.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    September 20, 2014 at 11:05 am

    @Amir Khalid: You should be able to change it. IIRC, you’ve got an Android phone.

    Settings -> (Scroll down to) Date & Time -> Check the “Use 24 -hour format” box.

    Hope this helps.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  17. 17.

    Corner Stone

    September 20, 2014 at 11:07 am

    @Julia Grey:

    The basics of downs and the strategies you can use within them. Anybody know any decent movie that gets THAT basic?

    Pretty boring movie for most people to watch a gruff sounding old white guy drawing X’s and O’s on a whiteboard for two hours. I, on the other hand, would enjoy it.

    Even baseball movies usually take the viewer’s knowledge of the rock-bottom basics of the game for granted….

    That’s because all baseball movies are essentially Rom-Coms and the baseball is just the back drop where someone finds out their true love was right in front of them the whole 90 minutes.

  18. 18.

    Violet

    September 20, 2014 at 11:08 am

    What are you watching today?

    I will be watching my dad’s wound. Heading over soon to change the bandage on it. We’re trying a new healing ointment, so seeing how it worked is my excitement for the day. Along with grocery shopping for them–that’s first, then the wound change. Then grocery shopping for me on the way back. Can’t do it all in one stop because it’s too damn hot and the groceries can’t sit in the car that long.

    I’m sure you’re all exceptionally jealous of my exciting Saturday.

  19. 19.

    Roger Moore

    September 20, 2014 at 11:11 am

    @Tommy:
    Lenovo makes Android models. It looks to me as if they may be a hair behind technologically- most of their phones aren’t running KitKat yet- but they also bought Motorola Mobility from Google, so technically a MotoX is a Lenovo phone.

  20. 20.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    September 20, 2014 at 11:11 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    What I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet said. Works the same on my Moto X phone and Nexus 7 tablet.

  21. 21.

    Amir Khalid

    September 20, 2014 at 11:14 am

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:
    Hey, it works! And I changed the date format too, from American MM-DD-YYYY to international DD-MM-YYYY. Thanks!

  22. 22.

    Howard Beale IV

    September 20, 2014 at 11:14 am

    @Tommy: Lenovo’s been making smartphones for the domestic Chinese market for quite a while, and now they acquired Motorola.

  23. 23.

    WaterGirl

    September 20, 2014 at 11:14 am

    @Raven: Thanks. All my political donations this month left me tapped out, but I saved the link for next month.

  24. 24.

    Roger Moore

    September 20, 2014 at 11:14 am

    @Corner Stone:

    That’s because all baseball movies are essentially Rom-Coms

    Somebody needs to watch Bang the Drum Slowly and Eight Men Out.

  25. 25.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 20, 2014 at 11:15 am

    Here’s hoping the Gators defy expectations and stick it to the Crimson Tide.

  26. 26.

    PaulW

    September 20, 2014 at 11:15 am

    Go Bulls, sweep the American (Not C-USA) Conference!

  27. 27.

    GHayduke (formerly lojasmo)

    September 20, 2014 at 11:16 am

    Hiking with my son to see some incredible fungi he found the other day, then spending the day with my wife, which seems like a rarity with election season in full swing (she’s a professional electoral ass-kicker)

    Feeling blessed, and not watching sports, as is my wont.

  28. 28.

    Tommy

    September 20, 2014 at 11:16 am

    @Corner Stone: Baseball is a hard game IMHO to get into if you were not raised with it. My mom likes to joke she put headphones on her belly, when I was a fetus, so I could hear Jack Buck call a Cardinals game. As an Illlinois resident she was fearful I might become a Cubs fan. Of course in my family that wasn’t acceptable. Baseball is something, and I am 44, that my parents and I still talk about all the time. But I can see how, again if you were not raised with a baseball game on 24/7 how it would be hard to watch.

  29. 29.

    PaulW

    September 20, 2014 at 11:17 am

    I actually want FSU to win big today, so the school and coaches can grab Winston by the collar and shout at him “YOU AIN’T ALL THAT!”

  30. 30.

    Roger Moore

    September 20, 2014 at 11:17 am

    @ruemara: @Julia Grey:
    Maybe you need to try something like Football For Dummies. Or maybe you should count yourselves lucky that you aren’t addicted to a sport that’s so destructive of the lives of its players and everyone around them. Pretty soon you’ll be able to lord your disinterest in football over all the people who know they should give up watching but can’t help themselves.

  31. 31.

    Roger Moore

    September 20, 2014 at 11:19 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    And I changed the date format too, from American MM-DD-YYYY to international DD-MM-YYYY.

    You didn’t choose ISO 8601 format (YYYY-MM-DD)?

  32. 32.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 20, 2014 at 11:20 am

    @Corner Stone: You’re thinking about Major League or Bull Durham, in which there’s a romance subplot that in no way detracts from the rest of the movie that is about baseball.

    “Just a bit outside.”

    “This son of a bitch is throwing a two-hit shutout. He’s shaking me off. You believe that shit? Charlie, here comes the deuce. And when you speak of me, speak well.”

  33. 33.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 20, 2014 at 11:25 am

    @Tommy: I was at the SkyDome in Toronto in 1990, and was sitting next to an British couple who were visiting relatives in Toronto, and had never seen a baseball game in their lives, so I explained some of the basic rules to them. It’s really a bit more difficult than you might imagine with those who are not raised on it as Americans are. One thing that did really impress them was how clean and family friendly he stadium was, unlike your average football stadium in the UK.

  34. 34.

    Amir Khalid

    September 20, 2014 at 11:26 am

    @Roger Moore:
    I was raised on DD-MM-YYYY, because that’s the date format laid down by God.

  35. 35.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 20, 2014 at 11:29 am

    @Amir Khalid: Interestingly enough, the US military uses the international DD-MM-YYYY format slightly modified (20 September 2014) on official correspondence. Also, of course 24 hour time always.

  36. 36.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 20, 2014 at 11:31 am

    On topic, the Fighting Fashion Nightmares will romp in Pullman. Sorry, Yatsuno.

  37. 37.

    Joey Maloney

    September 20, 2014 at 11:35 am

    Watching college football is tough for me. I don’t subscribe to any satellite packages and the grey-market webcasts are very poor quality.

    So instead I’m going to go down to the beach and pay two homeless guys to hit each other on the head with big rubber mallets.

  38. 38.

    Roger Moore

    September 20, 2014 at 11:38 am

    @Villago Delenda Est:
    Spelling out (or abbreviating) the month is less ambiguous than DD-MM-YYYY or MM-DD-YYYY because you can’t get confused about which is the day and which is the month. My mother uses a similar format but writes the month in Roman numerals to distinguish it from the days; I think she picked up the format when she was in Germany as a graduate student. YYYY-MM-DD has several advantages:

    1) It is unambiguous, because nobody writes things YYYY-DD-MM
    2) It puts the highest order digits first (big endian) so that a simple ASCIIbetical sort also puts the dates in chronological order.
    3) It is the official international standard

  39. 39.

    mellowjohn

    September 20, 2014 at 11:38 am

    rugby this afternoon (chicago blaze @ lincoln park rfc), then alternating between seeing if my norther illinois huskies can keep their 18 game road win streak alive at arkansas and seeing if my white sox can manage to win 2 in a row down in tampa (after knocking the rays out of a wild card spot last nite).

  40. 40.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    September 20, 2014 at 11:44 am

    @Amir Khalid: I’m wondering how much it will cost to fly over to England to be a part of the Alan Pardew lynch mob.

  41. 41.

    Corner Stone

    September 20, 2014 at 11:46 am

    @Joey Maloney:

    So instead I’m going to go down to the beach and pay two homeless guys to hit each other on the head with big rubber mallets.

    That’s the spirit! Ingenuity! Always find a way!

  42. 42.

    Amir Khalid

    September 20, 2014 at 11:47 am

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN):
    You might have to wait a week or so. Newcastle have come back to level it at 2-2.

  43. 43.

    Tommy

    September 20, 2014 at 11:50 am

    @Villago Delenda Est: An example I would use is soccer. I don’t understand it. I won’t belittle it, I just feel I was not raised watching it. I don’t know all the little details like I do about baseball. I think those little details, that I talk OPS with my mom, is what pulls you to a sport.

  44. 44.

    Corner Stone

    September 20, 2014 at 11:51 am

    @Roger Moore: You can try and tell me Eight Men Out isn’t a love story all you want. Not buying it.
    I saw the way Shoeless Joe and Buck Weaver were looking at each other.

  45. 45.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    September 20, 2014 at 11:53 am

    @Amir Khalid: When a home draw to Hull City becomes a positive, you know you’re going to be fighting relegation all season.

  46. 46.

    Corner Stone

    September 20, 2014 at 12:05 pm

    I’m usually not a fan of being lied to right in my face, bwts I wouldn’t mind having dinner with Marie Harf.

  47. 47.

    Julia Grey

    September 20, 2014 at 12:20 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Oh, I wasn’t asking for such a movie for MYSELF. I’ve known the rules of football and been picking up the nuances since I was 9. My aunt was a fanatic for both football and baseball. I used to sit in the bleachers at the Rochester Red Wings games with my scorecards and banter with all the other the bleacher birds like a grownup every summer.

    I was just saying that it might be good to have a movie that doesn’t take the viewers’ knowledge of basic rules and strategies for granted.

    And I simply MUST disagree with Corner Stone that “all baseball movies” are essentially romantic comedies. Sheesh. Have you ever seen The Natural?

  48. 48.

    Linnaeus

    September 20, 2014 at 12:25 pm

    @Julia Grey:

    And I simply MUST disagree with Corner Stone that “all baseball movies” are essentially romantic comedies. Sheesh. Have you ever seen The Natural?

    Or Bang the Drum Slowly?

  49. 49.

    Corner Stone

    September 20, 2014 at 12:31 pm

    @Julia Grey:

    Have you ever seen The Natural?

    Is that a documentary about Barry Bonds?

  50. 50.

    Corner Stone

    September 20, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    @Linnaeus:

    Or Bang the Drum Slowly?

    Why do all these counterexamples sound like the titles to Adult Films from the ’70s?

  51. 51.

    JCT

    September 20, 2014 at 12:37 pm

    Ultimate college football torment for us tonight: Cal vs Arizona. Husband and I both went to Cal, but now we are faculty at Arizona. He had season tickets but I won’t go, just can’t root against my Bears.

    At least Cal isn’t traveling to play UCLA this year. Last year was bombarded with email and then photos of my UCLA student son in the front row, shirtless with a big “L” painted on his chest, enjoying the Bear thrashing. On ESPN and all. The horror.

  52. 52.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    September 20, 2014 at 12:37 pm

    @Julia Grey:

    I was just saying that it might be good to have a movie that doesn’t take the viewers’ knowledge of basic rules and strategies for granted.

    I’m dealing with this in my novel. It isn’t really a hockey story, really, but hockey does play a significant role and there are some on ice scenes. Writing them in such a way that it is accessible to those who don’t know the game without annoying those who do is tricky.

  53. 53.

    Corner Stone

    September 20, 2014 at 12:39 pm

    @Mack:

    Prediction: My mighty Dores will upset So. Carolina tonight.

    Cocks are going to make the Fighting Captains look like Goodell at a podium tonight.

  54. 54.

    Julia Grey

    September 20, 2014 at 12:44 pm

    @Julia Grey:
    Actually, after thinking about it, I realized that I was more like 11 years old, not 9. One must be absolutely accurate on the internets.

  55. 55.

    Roger Moore

    September 20, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    @Linnaeus:

    Or Bang the Drum Slowly?

    Fear Strikes Out. Pride of the Yankees. Field of Dreams. 42. Cobb. The Fan.

  56. 56.

    Roger Moore

    September 20, 2014 at 12:58 pm

    @Julia Grey:

    One must be absolutely accurate on the internets.

    Is this a new rule, because I’ve never seen that happen before.

  57. 57.

    Linnaeus

    September 20, 2014 at 1:17 pm

    As for college football, I’ll be watching Michigan vs. Utah.

  58. 58.

    Raven

    September 20, 2014 at 1:38 pm

    45-0 at the half and a guy is trying to sell a ticket!

  59. 59.

    ruemara

    September 20, 2014 at 1:48 pm

    @Violet: I’m sorry your dad is hurt. Is he healing up ok?

  60. 60.

    Shortstop

    September 20, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    Betty, have you written about this?

  61. 61.

    Mack

    September 20, 2014 at 2:07 pm

    @Corner Stone: Okay, yeah, but our band will be better than theirs! Plus, F*ck Spurrier.

  62. 62.

    raven

    September 20, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    @JCT: bear down

  63. 63.

    jake the antisoshul soshulist

    September 20, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    Betty Cracker must be happy. However, I don’t think the Gators can count on the Tide to continue drop the ball on the ground.

  64. 64.

    JCT

    September 20, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    @raven: No! Roll on you Bears!

    I’m hoping (quietly) that they emulate your Dawgs tonight.

  65. 65.

    Corner Stone

    September 20, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    Incarnate Word at Abilene Christian!
    Feeeeellll the Excitement!

  66. 66.

    RAVEN

    September 20, 2014 at 5:16 pm

    @JCT: I left at the half. When Saint Richt rolls up the score it’s a cold day in hell!

  67. 67.

    JCT

    September 20, 2014 at 5:48 pm

    @RAVEN: I love the Georgia stadium, visited once when my daughter was working in Atlanta – one of my favorite things about being back at a big state U is having these on-site sports venues. Was a big part of my undergraduate life.

  68. 68.

    Corner Stone

    September 20, 2014 at 5:53 pm

    TO recovery for Florida! Inside Bama 20!

  69. 69.

    Corner Stone

    September 20, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    TD FLA for the (almost) tie!

  70. 70.

    Bonnie

    September 20, 2014 at 6:00 pm

    @Julia Grey: I had a very nice older brother who had control of the tv and watched nothing but football. He was very kind and patient at explaining things to me as we watched games together. He was especially patient and kind when he started yelling “red dog, red dog” (term for sacking the quarterback in the 50s). I asked where is the red dog and how did he know it was red since we were watching black and white tv. He just responded that’s a term for when all the defense goes in to get the quarterback. He pointed it out the next time it happened. I still call it a red dog; but, no one knows what I am talking about. I still smile at the fact that my brother could have told me to shut up; but, he didn’t. So, I enjoy football very much with fond memories of my older brother, who I don’t seem much of any more.

  71. 71.

    Uncle Cosmo

    September 20, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Same experience in the late 1970s at a decidedly less refined venue, Memorial Stadium in Baltimore, with a college buddy. Right behind us sat a British grad student at Johns Hopkins, his wife & kids. He’d apparently just defended his thesis & though they knew nothing about baseball, decided that with the park only about 8 blocks east of campus on 33rd St. & tickets relatively cheap, they’d add attendance at a major league game to their American experience before heading back to the Aisles.

    We undertook to explain the game to them…& were taken aback with their questions & incomprhension. Anyone who has imbibed the game with his mother’s milk (e.g., my father was a semipro shortstop & his first date with my eventual mother was a game in which he was playing) has no idea how much of the rulebook is pure “because that’s the way it is” until s/he tries to justify it to utter innocents. Truly an eye-opener.

  72. 72.

    RAVEN

    September 20, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    @JCT: Ah yes, even a game like today was fun. They are trying their best to kill it with ever-increasing prices and shitty schedules. I’ll keep going as long as I get faculty-staff tickets but, after that I’m proly done.

  73. 73.

    RAVEN

    September 20, 2014 at 6:40 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo: I took a visiting faculty member to a Braves game. He was ok at the game but the real revelation was listening to the post game on the radio on the drive home. THAT was truly incomprehensible for him.

  74. 74.

    Uncle Cosmo

    September 21, 2014 at 10:43 am

    @RAVEN: You know the story about the visiting Scotsman at his first major league baseball game?

    He & his American host came in as the teams were changing sides after the top of the first. The leadoff man smacked a sharp grounder to third, & everyone but the Scotsman jumped up shouting Run, run, run!

    The batter was thrown out, & as his friend sat down the Scotsman asked, Why did he hae t’run? & his friend explained that if he had reached the base before the ball, he would have been safe & could perhaps eventually score.

    The next batter hit a slow grounder to third & this time the Scotsman stood with everyone else shouting Run, run, run! But he too was thrown out.

    The #3 hitter took four straight pitches out of the strike zone. As he flipped his bat on the way to first base, the Scotsman stood & shouted Run, run, run!.

    His host pulled him down into his seat & muttered, He doesn’t have to run, he can walk to first base,

    Why is that? the Scotsman asked. Because he has four balls, his host replied..

    Whereupon the Scotsman leapt to his feet & shouted, Walk prrrrroudly, laddie!

    :D … An oldie but a goodie And here’s another:

    Q: How do you handle an elephant with three balls?
    A: Walk him & pitch to the giraffe on deck…

    :D

  75. 75.

    Berial

    September 22, 2014 at 12:25 pm

    Good pick on the MSU-LSU game! Hail STATE!

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