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You are here: Home / Organizing & Resistance / Don't Mourn, Organize / Monday Morning Open Thread: The People’s Climate March

Monday Morning Open Thread: The People’s Climate March

by Anne Laurie|  September 22, 20145:02 am| 83 Comments

This post is in: Don't Mourn, Organize, Energy Policy, Science & Technology, Daydream Believers

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(via NYMag)

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From commentor Skerry, participant:

The People’s Climate March was an astounding success! Estimated 400,000 in NYC marched. So many that they had to start diverting people off the route before the end because the permit was going to expire. We had planned for 200,000. Tremendous!

Also, marches around the globe in Melbourne (30,000), Nepal, Papau New Guinea, Barcelona (2000), Rome, London (40,000), Paris (1,000), Berlin (4000), Rio (5000), Stockholm, Amsterdam, Toronto. A total of 168 “sister” marches. I don’t know the numbers for all the cities. Information is still coming in.

Headlines on some of the major media. Top of the homepage for NYTimes. No mention on Sunday talk shows, Fox, CNN (shocking). Lots of foreign press coverage.

The plan [for Monday] is to “flood” Wall Street. I have no idea how many will participate. This action is a off-shoot from Occupy. I won’t be there, but will be watching closely.

The UN meets Tuesday to discuss and plan for the next big summit in Paris in 2015.

Pictures can be found at peoplesclimate.com and on Flickr.

Oh, and my daughter got a selfie with Al Gore. She was delighted. She marched with the student/youth section. They estimated over 50,000 students covering 10 blocks. We had anticipated 4 blocks. Just a delightful day.

Stunned by scale of #PeoplesClimate march. Pic taken 2.5 hours after it first started passing by my NYC apt. bldg. pic.twitter.com/8d1Xg3G92J

— Justin Gillis (@JustinHGillis) September 21, 2014

Based on a density algorithm, #PeoplesClimate march organizers claim a turnout of 310,000.

— Justin Gillis (@JustinHGillis) September 21, 2014


Gillis describes himself as “Reporter for The New York Times, covering the science of climate change and the policy implications of that science”

The AP figures this must be serious — the Rockefellers have announced they’re getting out of the oil business.
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Apart from trying to save the planet, what’s on the agenda for the start of another week?

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  1. 1.

    raven

    September 22, 2014 at 5:17 am

    Doesn’t seem like the Sunday talk shows would have had something before the event happened.

  2. 2.

    raven

    September 22, 2014 at 5:22 am

    Also, there was a lot of whining here about if the guy that breeched the White House security had ben brown, he would have been shot blah blah blah.

  3. 3.

    Schlemazel

    September 22, 2014 at 6:22 am

    @raven:
    So the guy was a paratrooper?

  4. 4.

    Baud

    September 22, 2014 at 6:25 am

    @raven:

    I happened to catch a bit of Meet the Press, and they had Grover Norquist on to talk about taxes and freedom.

    ETA: Their new set design is strange.

  5. 5.

    PurpleGirl

    September 22, 2014 at 6:31 am

    There is Pet Adoption Expo in Hartford (Ct.) on October 4th. The shelter/kitten cam I watch, which is located in Danielson, Ct., will be participating. I will be helping Cassie (kitten foster mama and shelter founder) with the event. This week I’m helping prepare materials to hand out.

    (I’ll repeat this information and give more details closer to the event and invite BJers who live in the area to pass by. The Expo is free to attend.)

  6. 6.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    September 22, 2014 at 6:32 am

    I happened to catch a bit of Meet the Press

    Why would you do that to yourself? I’m sure there’s a 12-step to help.

  7. 7.

    Baud

    September 22, 2014 at 6:33 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    There should be a warning on remotes: Channel flipping can be hazardous to your health . . . and your TV’s.

  8. 8.

    Mustang Bobby

    September 22, 2014 at 6:47 am

    According to TPM, Chuck Todd has now divided America into “Chick-Fil-A country” and “Starbucks nation.”

    He split the U.S. into the Democratic urban areas that drink Starbucks and the Republican rural areas that eat Chick-Fil-A.

    According to Todd, there are a few Senate seats up for grabs in Chick-Fil-A-loving states like Montana, South Dakota and West Virginia, giving Republicans the advantage. And he said that the major battlegrounds are Colorado and Iowa.

    I’d like one giant meteor to go, please.

  9. 9.

    Ramalama

    September 22, 2014 at 6:47 am

    Funny, that tweet about Al Gore rithm (with a lithp) and #peoplesclimatemarch. Tho deadpan.

  10. 10.

    Ramalama

    September 22, 2014 at 6:49 am

    @Mustang Bobby: Ventures a bit too close to David Brooks’ residency at Applebees.

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    Comrade Jake

    September 22, 2014 at 6:49 am

    @Baud: gotta love the MTP mindset, eh?

    “Man ratings suck! Let’s change the host and the set, but keep the same guests we’ve always had!”

  12. 12.

    Schlemazel

    September 22, 2014 at 6:55 am

    @Mustang Bobby:
    Poor Chuckles does not have the intellectual capacity for more complex thought so he has to go with the Pla-Skool of politics.

    And I second your request with a “please be soon!” added.

  13. 13.

    Baud

    September 22, 2014 at 6:56 am

    @Mustang Bobby:

    Yes! I caught that segment also. I wonder if Starbuck’s approved that message (Chick-fil-a might have).

    @Comrade Jake:

    It’s a “library” theme now, which I guess is a warmer look. What was strange is that Chuck and Grover were at a side table, and John Stanton (one of the journalists on the panel) was at a different table, and he had to ask his question from what looked like a good distance from the guests.

  14. 14.

    Mustang Bobby

    September 22, 2014 at 6:58 am

    @Ramalama: What’s ironic is that I did a search for Starbucks in Petoskey, Michigan, where I used to live. It’s a summer resort community, but it’s rural and rather conservative. There’s a Starbucks there. Then I did a search for Chick-Fil-A for the same town. “Your search for Chick-fil-A restaurants near [ Petoskey, MI US ] found no locations. Please try another address to find a restaurant near you.”

    Try another one, Chuck

  15. 15.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    September 22, 2014 at 7:04 am

    @Baud: I’m sure they were intimidated by Stanton, he’s a big guy and has lots of tats.

  16. 16.

    Skerry

    September 22, 2014 at 7:06 am

    Morning, all. Thanks for the post. It was an exciting day in NY.

    On Tuesday, there’s the UN climate change summit with 120 world leaders. President Obama will speak. Notable absences by leaders from Australia, Canada, China and India-they are sending lower level officials. All in preparation for 2015 Paris conference.

    ETA: unrelated, but my daughter was robbed at knifepoint in Baltimore last night. She’s fine. Thief took her purse but not her cellphone or keys, which were in her other hand.

  17. 17.

    Baud

    September 22, 2014 at 7:08 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    I would watch if he and Norquist went a few rounds in the ring.

    To be clear, Stanton wasn’t by himself at the kids table. There were about three, I think. Stanton was the only one to ask Grover a question, which is why I remember him.

  18. 18.

    Skerry

    September 22, 2014 at 7:14 am

    In other news, my daughter was robbed at knifepoint in Baltimore last night on her boyfriend’s porch. Thief took her purse with her cash tips from restaurant job, but not her keys or cellphone which she had in her hand. She was unharmed. Police responded and took a report, but were pessimistic. I told her to walk the street today and she might find the purse, sans cash.

  19. 19.

    Mustang Bobby

    September 22, 2014 at 7:18 am

    @Skerry: Wow; I’m glad she’s okay.

  20. 20.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    September 22, 2014 at 7:19 am

    @Baud: That might bring in a younger demo, even if Chuckles was officiating. Maybe NBC should give it a try.

  21. 21.

    Baud

    September 22, 2014 at 7:22 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    Next SUNDAY! SUNDAY! SUNDAY!. . . on Meet the Press…..

  22. 22.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 22, 2014 at 7:23 am

    @Skerry: Glad she’s OK. Emotionally too?

  23. 23.

    Skerry

    September 22, 2014 at 7:23 am

    @Mustang Bobby: Thanks. She did the right thing by giving up her purse. Today she has to start the clean-up: new IDs, etc

  24. 24.

    Mustang Bobby

    September 22, 2014 at 7:24 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Growlin’ Grover Norquist vs. Bernie the Bruiser Sanders… both in WWE Speedos? Pass.

  25. 25.

    Iowa Old Lady

    September 22, 2014 at 7:25 am

    @Baud: Mr IOL watches the Sunday shows, even FOX, and they couldn’t decide whether Obama was wrong for sending armed forces to the Middle East or wrong for not sending enough. But he was, for sure, wrong! Which was what mattered.

  26. 26.

    Skerry

    September 22, 2014 at 7:26 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: She was very upset last night, of course. He approached her as she was unlocking the front door so she never saw him coming. I’ll talk to her later today to see how she’s doing.

  27. 27.

    Keith G

    September 22, 2014 at 7:26 am

    @Skerry: Years ago, a kid put a gun in my face demanding money. It took me a bit to get over the skittishness.

    I was a poor eyewitness. I told the detective that all I remembered seeing was a silver revolver with bullets in the cylinder and behind that a head with blond hair.

  28. 28.

    Southern Beale

    September 22, 2014 at 7:26 am

    This story on George Zimmerman in the Orlando Sentinel really pissed me off. He’s treated like a celebrity, with people asking for his autograph when he goes to the local gun show — how sick is that? Kill an unarmed black teenager and you’re a celebrity with the gun crowd?

    And then he says he’s “constantly receiving death threats.” Calling bullshit on that one. On Twitter, right, that’s not a death threat. A death threat is someone trailing you through your neighborhood and shooting you for being black.

    Oh yeah and a big Benghazi cherry on top of this interview, too. He’s like a walking wingnut meme.

  29. 29.

    Iowa Old Lady

    September 22, 2014 at 7:27 am

    @Skerry: Sorry she went through that. That kind of thing shakes you up.

  30. 30.

    Baud

    September 22, 2014 at 7:35 am

    @Iowa Old Lady:

    That has pretty much been the story since Day 1, hasn’t it?

  31. 31.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 22, 2014 at 7:39 am

    @Skerry: The feelings of violation are the hardest to overcome.

  32. 32.

    Tommy

    September 22, 2014 at 7:41 am

    @Southern Beale: He always wants to play the victim doesn’t he.

  33. 33.

    Tommy

    September 22, 2014 at 7:49 am

    @Iowa Old Lady: I could only stomach one of them. Face the Nation. Of all people they had Joe Lieberman on to talk about foreign policy. How is his name even in your contact list?

  34. 34.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 22, 2014 at 7:49 am

    Rick Perry thinks Joan Rivers would not have died if she had been in Texas because in Texas, abortion clinics are strictly regulated.*** I sh!t you not.

    *** unlike Texas fertilizer plants. FREEDUMB!

  35. 35.

    raven

    September 22, 2014 at 7:54 am

    @Schlemazel: Those are not jump wings, maybe air assault or a CIB, not sure.

  36. 36.

    Ramalama

    September 22, 2014 at 7:57 am

    @Skerry: Yikes. So glad she got out unharmed. I was robbed at something point while working in a Mrs Fields, long time ago. Could not ID the guy afterwards. I’m just too suggestable. The cops blatantly indicated who they wanted me to pick out but I just repeated over and over, he could be but I can’t be sure. When I started reading about how eye witness reports were overrated, I felt a glimmer of gladness.

  37. 37.

    Tommy

    September 22, 2014 at 7:57 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: I thought you were joking. That maybe I hadn’t seen another comment. Just missed something. Then I clicked through to your link and my freaking god he said that. Made a point of saying it on purpose it seems. WTF.

  38. 38.

    Mustang Bobby

    September 22, 2014 at 7:57 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Did Rick think Joan Rivers was having an abortion? (I know what you meant, but following Rick’s train of thought is like following a sugared-up six-year-old.)

  39. 39.

    Ramalama

    September 22, 2014 at 7:58 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: WHAT?? You know what, aside from the whole fucking up the economy and the Middle East, I’m really really angry – angriest – at how W enabled MORONS running for office get an absolute pass. The debates that W participated in should have been complete FODDER, non-stop fodder, for anyone with a pulpit or newspaper or show, or corner stand to make fun of him and end the bloody nonsense.

  40. 40.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    September 22, 2014 at 8:00 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Joan Rivers died getting an abortion? Damn, that woman was still able to pump em out at 81? Now I only got as far as college intro biology, but I didn’t think that possible. But Rick Perry wears glasses so he must be right.

  41. 41.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    September 22, 2014 at 8:01 am

    @Mustang Bobby: Or a methed up texan.

  42. 42.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 22, 2014 at 8:03 am

    @Mustang Bobby: All I meant was, “See Rick Perry? See Rick run? Run Rick, run! See Rick talk? Say something stupid Rick. See Rick say something really really unbelievably stupid? He hasn’t done that since the last time he spoke.”

  43. 43.

    Tommy

    September 22, 2014 at 8:05 am

    @Keith G: I’ve been mugged at gunpoint twice. I am generally terrible with names but recall faces at the drop of a hat. All I could focus on was the gun. No chance I could ID them. None. Maybe I should have tried harder but I just wanted to get out of the situation.

  44. 44.

    Mustang Bobby

    September 22, 2014 at 8:10 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Yeah, I got your meaning totally. But even the article itself makes it sound like Rick thought she was having an abortion on her vocal chords. (Trust me, I would never mock you.)

  45. 45.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 22, 2014 at 8:11 am

    @Mustang Bobby: Oh yeah, also meaning to point out that Rick Perry actually thinks he could win the GOP nomination for President. And he’s right, it really is possible.

  46. 46.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 22, 2014 at 8:15 am

    @Mustang Bobby: I did not think you were mocking me… just wasn’t sure what you thought I was trying to say.

  47. 47.

    Tommy

    September 22, 2014 at 8:17 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: I think many on the right that we mock are not as dumb as we think. Just working the “rubes.” But Perry is as dumb as I think he is. I don’t know if he could think his way out of a wet paper bag.

  48. 48.

    Iowa Old Lady

    September 22, 2014 at 8:18 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: I suspected “admitting privileges = something something Joan Rivers” was percolating away on the right somewhere because since Rivers died, a conservative woman at the gym has been telling people to make sure their doctor has admitting privileges.

  49. 49.

    guachi

    September 22, 2014 at 8:19 am

    About that Chick-Fil-A and Starbucks thing – Todd mentioned Montana and North Dakota as rural Chick-Fil-A states. There are no Chick-Fil-As in either state.

  50. 50.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 22, 2014 at 8:31 am

    @Iowa Old Lady: I suspect it was something like that, but DAMN! he is stupid in not only how he said it, but also that he, the Governor of low regulation, business friendly Texas, said it. He is as much as admitting that GOPers think the only proper use of regulations is as cudgels against things they don’t like. We all know the true intent of those abortion restrictions and saving lives is not something Texans care about, they have proven that time and again.

  51. 51.

    Tommy

    September 22, 2014 at 8:31 am

    @Iowa Old Lady: I am not a doctor or expert on Joan Rivers. But if I am not mistaken her admitting doctor was there. He performed a procedure not allowed and things went sideways.

  52. 52.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    September 22, 2014 at 8:31 am

    The Rockefellers are sooooo yesterday,are they even in the Forbes 400? This is the era of the Koch-sucker,sucking the life out of the planet unless they are clapped in irons.

  53. 53.

    dedc79

    September 22, 2014 at 8:33 am

    My favorite freakout so far:

    I spent some time near the crowd today — and that crowd was more like a mob, in my view. Swarms of zealots, screaming — literally screaming — against a devil they call “fossil fuels.” These people did not seem to me democrats assembling in support of a cause (however misguided). They struck me as ideologues, people in the grip of a negative passion, the kind of mob that would be wowed by Hugo Chávez.

    I hope I do them an injustice. (But I doubt it.)

  54. 54.

    debbie

    September 22, 2014 at 8:37 am

    @dedc79:
    Takes an ideologue to know an ideologue.

  55. 55.

    Tommy

    September 22, 2014 at 8:38 am

    @dedc79: A mob like the tea party.

  56. 56.

    Southern Beale

    September 22, 2014 at 8:44 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    I was curious: does he want to expand those stringent clinic regulations to every other medical clinic in the state, or did he think she was having an abortion?

    Seriously confused. I can’t imagine all of the plastic surgery, colonoscopy and other “outpatient” clinics doing big business in Texas would like to hear that Perry wants to place those some strict requirements on them.

  57. 57.

    Mustang Bobby

    September 22, 2014 at 8:50 am

    @guachi: But there are Starbucks in both Montana (Great Falls) and North Dakota (Minot). Both are well-known liberal enclaves.

  58. 58.

    beth

    September 22, 2014 at 8:58 am

    @dedc79: It really says something that their biggest complaints after events like this are that the attendance numbers were inflated, the crowd was unruly and they left a mess. Never an argument on the issues, just a lot of whining. Fox News has taught them well.

  59. 59.

    rikyrah

    September 22, 2014 at 9:00 am

    @Southern Beale:

    tell it, Southern Beale

  60. 60.

    Kathleen

    September 22, 2014 at 9:01 am

    @guachi: Well, in all fairness a Republican probably told him that and it’s not his job to research any statements Republicans make. Journalism is hard.

  61. 61.

    Gene108

    September 22, 2014 at 9:01 am

    @Southern Beale:

    There’s some sort of conflation between gun-nuts and white supremacists. Ruby Ridge is a “never again” moment for gun-nuts, but ignored is the fact Randy Weaver was charged with selling sawed off shutguns to white supremacist groups. He failed to show up to court which triggered the stand-off.

    The Weavers were not the Cleavers, living the good clean suburban life, when deranged ATF agents decided to attack them.

    Yet I wonder what the “never again” moment really means in their minds. I somehow have the feeling there’s the “never again” moment is about the government keeping good Christian white people from keeping the Jews, blacks, browns and yellows I their place.

  62. 62.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 22, 2014 at 9:03 am

    Yet another GOP Gov saying stupid sh!t:

    “But Deal instead has chosen to react to the number in the most hilarious and conspiratorial way possible, with one of the choicest quotes of the cycle: States with Republican governors have high unemployment rates while states with Democratic governors have lower ones? The Obama administration must be cooking the books!“

    Georgia is not about to be outdone by Texas.

  63. 63.

    Kathleen

    September 22, 2014 at 9:10 am

    @Skerry: I am sorry to hear your daughter has to deal with that. How are you doing?

  64. 64.

    Gene108

    September 22, 2014 at 9:13 am

    @guachi:

    When I was still living in NC, in the mid-1990’s, I had a relative visit from the Midwest, he was stunned there were stand alone Chikifila restaurants. Everywhere else they were just in the mall food court.

    Being a privately held company, they seem to be slower in expanding nationally than publicly traded companies like Starbucks.

  65. 65.

    Matt McIrvin

    September 22, 2014 at 9:14 am

    @Mustang Bobby: Sometimes the Chick-Fil-A and the Starbucks are at entirely opposite ends of the mall.

  66. 66.

    RaflW

    September 22, 2014 at 9:15 am

    The news from the Rockefeller Fund is big. I’m not sure how fast the divesting is happening, but these folks, cited by the NYT, claim that $50 billion is pledged to divest.

    That is becoming a big enough number, and with some big enough names, that the fossil fuel companies must be noticing. Maybe not enough yet to change their behavior, but fairly soon at least some financial advisors are going to start suggesting that the big oil and coal companies have impaired assets in their fuel reserves.

    I’ve been dubious of the divestment strategy, but it has advanced faster than I thought it might. I hope it continues to expand!

  67. 67.

    rikyrah

    September 22, 2014 at 9:21 am

    Kobach’s ballot ‘disclaimer’ worsens Kansas’ circus
    09/22/14 08:00 AM
    By Steve Benen
    As of late Friday afternoon, the procedural nuttiness that has plagued Kansas U.S. Senate race appeared to have run its course. The state Supreme Court had ruled that Democrat Chad Taylor could, in fact, remove his name from the statewide ballot, creating a one-on-one match-up pitting Sen. Pat Roberts (R) against Greg Orman (I)..

    What’s more, Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R), who oversees state elections and just happens to be part of Roberts’ re-election campaign committee, appeared to be in retreat, directing officials to begin mailing ballots – as mandated by federal law – to Kansans voting from overseas without a Democratic candidate, as per Democrats’ wishes.

    There was, however, a catch. Kobach, who’s making no real effort to hide his brazen partisanship, continues to make unprecedented moves, turning Kansas’ race into a circus with no modern parallel. From the Wichita Eagle over the weekend:

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/kobachs-ballot-disclaimer-worsens-kansas-circus

  68. 68.

    RaflW

    September 22, 2014 at 9:31 am

    @guachi:

    About that Chick-Fil-A and Starbucks thing – Todd mentioned Montana and North Dakota as rural Chick-Fil-A states. There are no Chick-Fil-As in either state.

    You don’t expect Chuckie to have actually been to Montana or North Dakota, do you? These are just metaphorical places, other than brief mentions in the Cook Report vis. US Senate race-horse watching. Otherwise, umm, flyover? Really, c’mon why go there or even know anything factual about it?

  69. 69.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 22, 2014 at 9:43 am

    @Matt McIrvin:

    In the office building where I used to work, the Chick-Fil-A and the Starbucks were right next to each other.

  70. 70.

    Sherparick

    September 22, 2014 at 9:53 am

    I would wish us Environmentalists would go all out to defeat Fred Upton, Mitch McConnell, Thom Tillis, etc. Until we start taking scalps and having Republicans win primaries who want to repeal every conservation and environmental law and program passed since 1900, this will be an uphill battle.

  71. 71.

    ruemara

    September 22, 2014 at 9:59 am

    My response is always the same. How many people there are registered to vote? If not, you’re wasting your time. It sure looks good, but without a comment to voting in each & every election, that’s all it does.

  72. 72.

    WaterGirl

    September 22, 2014 at 10:10 am

    @Skerry: I’m so glad your daughter is alright! It must have been terrifying. I imagine it’s also terrifying to think about, even though the threat has already passed. Sending good thoughts for all concerned.

    Also, I greatly appreciate your information on the march, etc. As I mentioned in a thread yesterday, it gives me hope.

  73. 73.

    schrodinger's cat

    September 22, 2014 at 10:19 am

    @Mustang Bobby: Isn’t Chick-filA a mostly southern chain?

  74. 74.

    Ruckus

    September 22, 2014 at 11:06 am

    @Tommy:
    Perry couldn’t find his ass with both hands, which is pretty funny considering his head is already up there.

  75. 75.

    Comrade Colette Collaboratrice

    September 22, 2014 at 11:18 am

    @dedc79: Please to be warning about NRO linkage – I wouldn’t give them a click if my mother-in-law’s life depended on it.

  76. 76.

    Mnemosyne

    September 22, 2014 at 11:20 am

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Yep. Chuck Toddler’s equation is pretty obviously “Latte-Sipping Northern Elites vs. Real Americans.”

  77. 77.

    nastybrutishntall

    September 22, 2014 at 11:51 am

    So the guy likely to be our next County Commissioner here in Montezuma County, CO is a White Supremacist Christian minister. http://www.kingdomseekersministry.org/beliefs.html
    He won the Republican primary in a 25% Democratic county, so I look forward to his wise Anglo-Saxon ways ruling our lives. Ahh, yes. There is no wingnut like the Desert Wingnut.

  78. 78.

    Bobby B.

    September 22, 2014 at 12:22 pm

    The comments on the “Reason” site’s article were educational. Much “take a bath Hippie, and stop smoking pot!” humor from pups who likely weren’t born until after 1990. Jack Webb and Sinatra would have approved.

  79. 79.

    WaterGirl

    September 22, 2014 at 12:37 pm

    @nastybrutishntall: That must be incredibly discouraging.

  80. 80.

    mai naem mobile

    September 22, 2014 at 12:50 pm

    Chikfila now has more stores than kfc.Just think about that. The only thing I knew about chickfila before the recent xtian stuff was seeing one in the mall years ago and I am a veg so I never went in to even look at the menu.

  81. 81.

    dedc79

    September 22, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    @Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: Fair enough. I figured the blocked quote would be sufficient warning that the source was going to be some godawful publication like NRO

  82. 82.

    Ramalama

    September 22, 2014 at 2:05 pm

    @mai naem mobile: I’ve only ever seen Chikfila in malls too. Not seen them anywhere in Canadia though. There are KFCs in Quebec, only they are called PFK.

    Not sure the Chick could legally set up shop in Canada since it’s against the law to discriminate against teh gays and it’s a law that gets enforced. WalMarts are here, but they pay the minimum wage, which is pretty high here. And everyone everywhere seems to be in a union. So it’s not out of the realm of the possible that the Chicks might change their tunes in another country, if they so decided to branch out.

    … which has nothing to do with you being vegemetarian.

  83. 83.

    Anne Laurie

    September 22, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: Yep. And as others have said, the company is privately owned, so they’re not under pressure from MBAs to expand just for the sake of expansion.

    Ironically, there’s a Chick-fil-A right here in the People’s Republic of Massachusetts — just down the road from us, in a shopping mall food court. It went in before the Great Huckabee Anti-Queer publicity stunt. I assume it must be profitable, enough, but age and the internet have enabled me to avoid most mall shopping trips…

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