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You are here: Home / Foreign Affairs / Girls Just Want To Have Fun — China “Red Princess” Edition

Girls Just Want To Have Fun — China “Red Princess” Edition

by Tom Levenson|  October 2, 20144:45 pm| 35 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Open Threads, Somewhere a Village is Missing its Idiot

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I’ve not commented at all about Hong Kong and the umbrella protests because I don’t know enough to add anything to what much more informed people have to say.  As noted in Anne Laurie’s post this morning, old China hand Jim Fallows has been tracking the story closely, and has been writing himself and keeping tabs on other smart takes on the situation.  Here I’ll highlight from that list only the rather meta essay Henry Farrell put up at the Monkey Cage blog on the perils of explanatory journalism in cases, like this one, when the explaining journalist can fall afoul of his or her unknown unknowns:

Explainer journalism rests instead on the authority of the person doing the explaining.

The problem with this is twofold. First, the explainers are sometimes going to get things wrong. This is especially likely in international politics, where the explaining journalist is supposed to have expertise in far more countries and far more issues than any human being can possibly know much about. Second, the explainer is going to have difficulty in admittingthat he or she has gotten something wrong. If your authority and livelihood as a writer rests on your supposed ability to explain, you are not going to want to admit that you got things seriously wrong, even if you did.

Very useful correctives to keep on hand as we read just about any source on just about any kind of story.

So, my ignorance stipulated and reiterated, let me just add this to the mix.  If I’m CY Leung, the head of the Hong Kong government, facing an unprecedented level of protest and demands for more transparent, more democratic, and more open government, I really, really, don’t want to read a post on my 22 year old daughter’s Facebook page saying this:

The necklace on my profile pic is not a dog collar, silly!!!” she said. “This is actually a beautiful necklace bought at Lane Crawford (yes – funded by all you HK taxpayers!! So are all my beautiful shoes and dresses and clutches!! Thank you so much!!!!).

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And I’m really, REALLY sure I would wish she hadn’t added this:

Actually maybe I shouldn’t say ‘all you’- since most of you here are probably unemployed hence all this time obsessed with bombarding me with messages.

In the context of stories like this one, this is just so much not what any senior official would want to see splashed across headlines around the world.  I have no idea how this moment of scandal (or simply gaucherie) will play into events on the streets of Hong Kong and in government offices there and in Beijing.  But damn…that’s some spectacular buffoonery from someone who I guess fits the definition of a red princess.

Image: Evert Collier, Vanitas Still Life,  1705.

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  1. 1.

    Mnemosyne

    October 2, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    I guess now we know how to say “Paris Hilton” in Cantonese.

  2. 2.

    Mike J

    October 2, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Paris Hilton has actually had real jobs as an actress and model. There are many people in public life who I believe are paid out of proportion to their talents. I don’t see that Ms Hilton is an especially egregious example.

  3. 3.

    JPL

    October 2, 2014 at 5:05 pm

    Wow!

  4. 4.

    srv

    October 2, 2014 at 5:05 pm

    I suppose you fell for all the cointelpro against Occupy Wall Street.

    Now Obama is using it against China, I guess war with Russia isn’t enough.

  5. 5.

    Roger Moore

    October 2, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    That’s unfair to the Hiltons. As far as I can tell, Conrad Hilton earned his money fairly and tried hard to keep it from turning his descendants into wastrels. And Paris may have inherited a bunch of money, but she’s done a fairly good job of parleying her notoriety into money-making opportunities, so that she’s probably earning at least as much as she’s spending. In contrast, CY Leung almost certainly got his money through public corruption, and his daughter is bragging about spending it on frippery. I think the Hiltons come out better on both sides.

    ETA: I have a soft side for the Hilton family, since they endowed the building where I work.

  6. 6.

    srv

    October 2, 2014 at 5:10 pm

    Ruh-roh:

    Former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta is lashing out at President Obama’s inner circle for failing to secure a 2011 deal to leave U.S. troops in Iraq, effectively accusing the White House of sabotaging the talks – in turn, opening the door for the region to become a haven for the Islamic State.

    Panetta, who served as CIA director and then Defense secretary during those negotiations, aired his complaints in his forthcoming memoir, “Worthy Fights.” Excerpts on the Baghdad talks were published by Time.

    In them, Panetta explained that Iraqi leaders privately wanted some U.S. forces to stay behind after the formal 2011 withdrawal, though they would not say so publicly. The former secretary, though, said the U.S. had “leverage” to strike a deal, and the Defense and State departments tried to do exactly that.

    “But,” he wrote, “the President’s team at the White House pushed back, and the differences occasionally became heated. … and those on our side viewed the White House as so eager to rid itself of Iraq that it was willing to withdraw rather than lock in arrangements that would preserve our influence and interest

    Does not fit the official SOFA meme…

  7. 7.

    Belafon

    October 2, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    @srv: There was no way they could leave troops there without the SOFA. It doesn’t matter if the Iraqi government privately wanted them there. The first time a US troop killed a civilian, he would have to be tried under Iraqi law, not under some secret handshake.

  8. 8.

    Keith G

    October 2, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    @srv: Presidents get paid to make tough decisions. It is entirely possible that Obama made the wrong one in 2011. Though, I am not sure how much difference the long term outcomes would be.

  9. 9.

    chopper

    October 2, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    How do you say ‘tumbrel ride’ in Cantonese?

  10. 10.

    jl

    October 2, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    Sounds like his daughter would be perfect for the job. Problem solved. You are welco…

    Oh… wait…

  11. 11.

    Bobby Thomson

    October 2, 2014 at 5:27 pm

    @chopper: Cultural Revolution.

    Mobs always get manipulated.

  12. 12.

    gogiggs

    October 2, 2014 at 5:28 pm

    @chopper: Never a guillotine handy when you need one, is there?

  13. 13.

    chopper

    October 2, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    @gogiggs:

    What we need in this thread is VDE’s Chinese equivalent.

  14. 14.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 2, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    @Roger Moore: The first time I went to Dallas, I stayed at a hotel that was once the first Hilton. Really nice place. I also spent two nights in the Paris Hilton, it’s by the Eiffel Tower.

  15. 15.

    CONGRATULATIONS!

    October 2, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    At one stage, she put up pictures of herself sitting in a bathtub with slashed, blood strained wrists while sparking off speculation that this could be the result of her differences with her mother, Tong Ching-Yee.

    “Courage and loyalty are the virtues I value the most. My mother embodies the exact opposites of both,” she said in one another Facebook post.

    She seems nice. And stable.

  16. 16.

    CONGRATULATIONS!

    October 2, 2014 at 5:34 pm

    Paris Hilton has actually had real jobs as an actress and model.

    @Mike J: She got cut off a year or so after the sex tape. Any money she’s been spending since then is her own. She’s done very well for herself.

  17. 17.

    Gin & Tonic

    October 2, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    @CONGRATULATIONS!: I bet the New Year’s holiday at their house is loads of fun.

  18. 18.

    KG

    October 2, 2014 at 5:45 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: what you did there, it was seen and noted.

  19. 19.

    John Revolta

    October 2, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    Can she actually be this clueless? I dunno from Facebook- is there some way to hack into somebody’s page and leave phony posts?

    Because, holy shit.

  20. 20.

    CONGRATULATIONS!

    October 2, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: A wonderful combination of sociopathy and borderline behavior. I bet the dad falls asleep at night praying for the peasants to come kill them all and put him out of his misery.

  21. 21.

    monkeyfister

    October 2, 2014 at 5:53 pm

    Within 10 days, the Chinese State will lose their patience, and start the killing in the streets of Hong Kong, followed by hunting down and imprisoning the survivors and their extended families. Same as always.

  22. 22.

    Trollhattan

    October 2, 2014 at 5:55 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: One must be careful how one words that.

    Regardless of whether one is at or in the Paris Hilton, the video she did in answer to Walnuts in’08 endeared her to me forever.

  23. 23.

    slag

    October 2, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Probably more GW Bush than anyone else.

  24. 24.

    Mnemosyne

    October 2, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    @Mike J:

    Paris Hilton has actually had real jobs as an actress and model.

    That she got through her family connections. Which I realize doesn’t make her that much different than anyone else in nepotism-riddled Hollywood, but let’s not fool ourselves that she got where she is strictly on her talent.

  25. 25.

    jake the antisoshul soshulist

    October 2, 2014 at 6:45 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:
    Is there any video?

  26. 26.

    Roger Moore

    October 2, 2014 at 6:46 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    Getting ahead from family connections still puts Paris Hilton a couple of steps above of Chai Yan Leung, who is straight spending daddy’s ill-gotten wealth.

  27. 27.

    trollhattan

    October 2, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    @Roger Moore:
    And leagues ahead of anything Kardashian, who have truly mastered making money being famous for being famous. My theory: Al Qaeda stole a B52 and carpet-bombed us with Kardashians in the late ’90s, but nobody noticed for awhile.

  28. 28.

    SiubhanDuinne

    October 2, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Speaking of the Hiltons — I am kind of amazed that Zsa Zsa Gabor* is still alive.

    *(or, as I sometimes like to think of her, Elizabeth Taylor’s ex-step-mother-in-law).

  29. 29.

    Roger Moore

    October 2, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    @trollhattan:
    I’d put the Cardassians Kardashians well ahead of this leech, also, too. Sure, they’re making money purely by being famous for being famous, but they’re still doing something vaguely productive by providing entertainment, and nobody is being forced to give them money. In contrast, CY Leung apparently got rich through graft, and his worthless daughter hasn’t even done that much to earn the money she’s spending. They’re paradigm examples of parasites.

  30. 30.

    Mnemosyne

    October 2, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I think Gabor’s sleazy husband is not willing to disconnect his meal ticket from life support.

    Olivia de Havilland is also still alive and is one year older than Zsa Zsa!

  31. 31.

    trollhattan

    October 2, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    @Roger Moore:
    We’re down to “Blow to the head, or dose of clap?” territory, aren’t we?

    Horrid people, behaving horridly, with a tra-la and a gift of cake for the masses. Really, truly hope China doesn’t go Tiananmen on those folks. They’ve already tried UC Davis.

  32. 32.

    Roger Moore

    October 2, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    @trollhattan:

    We’re down to “Blow to the head, or dose of clap?” territory, aren’t we?

    More like allergies vs. Ebola. There’s really a huge difference between somebody who does something I see as socially worthless and being paid too much for it and corrupt and rapacious officials living it up on tax money.

  33. 33.

    Joel

    October 2, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    @monkeyfister: The Zedong dynasty rolls on.

  34. 34.

    low-tech cyclist

    October 3, 2014 at 7:00 am

    How do you say “Marie Antoinette” in Mandarin?

  35. 35.

    Paul in KY

    October 3, 2014 at 8:01 am

    @srv: I was pretty fucking eager to get the Hell out of there too. The President campaigned on getting us out of there.

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